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| Started by | AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> |
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| First post | 2015-04-10 21:05 -0400 |
| Last post | 2015-04-12 16:47 -0700 |
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Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-10 21:05 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-10 19:04 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-10 22:35 -0700
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-11 10:45 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 14:18 -0400
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-11 15:58 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 16:28 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-11 16:53 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-11 22:22 +0000
Re: Apple Watch Jim_Higgins <gordian240@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-11 20:05 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 20:28 -0400
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-12 11:08 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:16 -0400
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-14 20:58 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-14 18:00 -0700
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:14 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-15 08:24 -0700
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-14 22:36 -0400
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:29 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-15 11:42 -0400
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:56 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-15 12:02 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-15 09:44 -0700
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-15 17:14 -0400
Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-16 08:10 +1000
Re: Apple Watch John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-14 21:13 -0700
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:20 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 12:52 +0000
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-15 11:42 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-15 11:49 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 15:56 +0000
Re: Apple Watch Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-15 22:45 +0000
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 14:18 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-11 21:36 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 11:22 +0000
Re: Apple Watch Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-11 14:16 +0000
Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 19:23 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-12 00:22 +0000
Re: Apple Watch AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-12 11:24 -0400
Re: Apple Watch nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 20:28 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Zar Zifodow <zarzifodow@mailinator.com> - 2015-04-11 19:25 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 07:38 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-12 09:48 -0400
Re: Apple Watch me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-04-12 23:13 +0000
Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 19:30 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-12 16:48 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 08:27 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-13 05:35 -0700
Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-13 09:55 +1000
Re: Apple Watch Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-13 07:39 -0400
Re: Apple Watch me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-04-13 04:52 +0000
Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-13 15:52 +1000
Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 08:36 -0400
Re: Apple Watch John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-13 18:10 +0100
Re: Apple Watch John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-13 09:59 -0700
Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 07:52 +1000
Re: Apple Watch Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 18:49 -0400
Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 10:25 +1000
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-13 18:09 -0700
Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 13:01 +1000
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-13 20:43 -0700
Re: Apple Watch dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 18:34 +1000
Re: Apple Watch Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-14 09:52 -0400
Re: Apple Watch Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-04-15 16:32 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-15 17:46 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-04-15 20:10 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-15 20:28 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-04-15 20:49 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-15 21:09 -0700
Re: Apple Watch John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-16 07:08 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-16 08:26 -0700
Re: Apple Watch John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-16 09:16 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-04-15 16:22 -0700
Re: Apple Watch Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-12 16:47 -0700
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| From | AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 11:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mgm1nj$ke9$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #28856 |
On 4/15/15, 11:42, nospam wrote: > In article<mgm04p$hb7$1@news.albasani.net>, AV3 > <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote: > >>>> You're not consistent. You argued that airlines are performing a service >>>> to customers by charging graduated fees for seat selection service that >>>> was previously first come/first serve and without a fee. I favor first >>>> come/first serve for both airline and Apple services. But I was prepared >>>> to see the enormous price differential as an entitlement to early >>>> service on a few dozen gold-encased watches. >>> >>> not a good comparison, and the price of the gold watch is in line with >>> other gold watches. >>> >>> airline seat selection is first come/first serve. if you want 12a and >>> someone else picks it before you do, you must choose another seat, no >>> matter how much money you want to pay. >>> >>> some seats are blocked off for elite customers, such as ones towards >>> the front or the exit row because those pax fly a lot and the airline >>> caters to them, versus the kettles who fly once a year, if that much. >> >> In economy class many seats are now blocked off purely for pay, not >> offered privately to elite customers. All those seats were formerly >> offered first come/first serve. On long flights, extra leg room and >> short rows are highly desirable. > > the seats are still first come/first serve but airlines reserve the > better seats for customers who fly a lot, versus the kettles who don't. > > if you regularly buy large volumes of apple products per year, you'll > get priority service too. If so, this is an unannounced policy by both airlines and Apple. > >>> of course, you can always pay a premium for business or first class, >>> but you get a better product. it's the equivalent of a gold watch. >> >> On airlines today, even many "economy" class seats are also in that >> category. > > like hell they are. > > there's a *huge* difference between premium economy and first/biz. That doesn't permit you to compare apples and oranges. No one suggested comparing economy prices with other classes. The point is that now economy is divided between first come/first serve without fee and first come/first serve with fee. The fee is the unwelcome new addition, analogous to an additional class, something Apple has happily not imitated. -- ++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++ ||Arnold VICTOR, New York City, i. e., <arvimideQ@Wearthlink.net> || ||Arnoldo VIKTORO, Nov-jorkurbo, t. e., <arvimideQ@Wearthlink.net> || ||Remove capital letters from e-mail address for correct address/ || || Forigu majusklajn literojn el e-poŝta adreso por ĝusta adreso || ++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 12:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <150420151202304841%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #28859 |
In article <mgm1nj$ke9$1@news.albasani.net>, AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote: > >>>> You're not consistent. You argued that airlines are performing a service > >>>> to customers by charging graduated fees for seat selection service that > >>>> was previously first come/first serve and without a fee. I favor first > >>>> come/first serve for both airline and Apple services. But I was prepared > >>>> to see the enormous price differential as an entitlement to early > >>>> service on a few dozen gold-encased watches. > >>> > >>> not a good comparison, and the price of the gold watch is in line with > >>> other gold watches. > >>> > >>> airline seat selection is first come/first serve. if you want 12a and > >>> someone else picks it before you do, you must choose another seat, no > >>> matter how much money you want to pay. > >>> > >>> some seats are blocked off for elite customers, such as ones towards > >>> the front or the exit row because those pax fly a lot and the airline > >>> caters to them, versus the kettles who fly once a year, if that much. > >> > >> In economy class many seats are now blocked off purely for pay, not > >> offered privately to elite customers. All those seats were formerly > >> offered first come/first serve. On long flights, extra leg room and > >> short rows are highly desirable. > > > > the seats are still first come/first serve but airlines reserve the > > better seats for customers who fly a lot, versus the kettles who don't. > > > > if you regularly buy large volumes of apple products per year, you'll > > get priority service too. > > If so, this is an unannounced policy by both airlines and Apple. it's not unannounced. > >>> of course, you can always pay a premium for business or first class, > >>> but you get a better product. it's the equivalent of a gold watch. > >> > >> On airlines today, even many "economy" class seats are also in that > >> category. > > > > like hell they are. > > > > there's a *huge* difference between premium economy and first/biz. > > That doesn't permit you to compare apples and oranges. you're the one making the ridiculous comparison to airline seats. > No one suggested > comparing economy prices with other classes. The point is that now > economy is divided between first come/first serve without fee and first > come/first serve with fee. The fee is the unwelcome new addition, > analogous to an additional class, something Apple has happily not imitated. there is no additional fee if you travel a lot. elite flyers have access to all seats. the fees are for the kettles. the gold watch is the equivalent of first class. you get 24/7 tech support and an extra year of warranty. however, when they sell more than they can make, there's nothing anyone can do. even if you buy a f/c ticket, the flight might still be delayed or canceled.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 09:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <150420150944397542%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #28856 |
In article <150420151142353145%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > In economy class many seats are now blocked off purely for pay, not > > offered privately to elite customers. All those seats were formerly > > offered first come/first serve. On long flights, extra leg room and > > short rows are highly desirable. > > the seats are still first come/first serve but airlines reserve the > better seats for customers who fly a lot, versus the kettles who don't. In my experience, they reserve those seats for customers who pay the extra fee for them, regardless of how often they fly. And that is also on a first-come, first-serve basis.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 17:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <150420151714207420%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #28862 |
In article <150420150944397542%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > > In economy class many seats are now blocked off purely for pay, not > > > offered privately to elite customers. All those seats were formerly > > > offered first come/first serve. On long flights, extra leg room and > > > short rows are highly desirable. > > > > the seats are still first come/first serve but airlines reserve the > > better seats for customers who fly a lot, versus the kettles who don't. > > In my experience, they reserve those seats for customers who pay the > extra fee for them, regardless of how often they fly. And that is also > on a first-come, first-serve basis. completely wrong. elite customers do not need to pay for premium seats, checked bags and sometimes even food. they also may get complimentary upgrades to first or business class (depending on availability) as well as being eligible to use priority lines for ticketing, security and boarding, skipping the long waits. in the event of irrops, they're rebooked first. the airlines reward their best customers, exactly how it should be. that's the benefit of flying a lot. those who fly once a year do not get those perks and must pay extra to obtain them, if they can at all. same for hotel and rental car programs as well as many stores.
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| From | dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-16 08:10 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <do_ray_me-153C9F.08101816042015@aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #28866 |
In article <150420151714207420%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: ... > elite customers do not need to pay for premium seats, checked bags and > sometimes even food. they also may get complimentary upgrades to first > or business class (depending on availability) as well as being eligible > to use priority lines for ticketing, security and boarding, skipping > the long waits. in the event of irrops, they're rebooked first. > > the airlines reward their best customers, exactly how it should be. > that's the benefit of flying a lot. > > those who fly once a year do not get those perks and must pay extra to > obtain them, if they can at all. > > same for hotel and rental car programs as well as many stores. You know too much about the world, time for a big change for you, nospam. From now to next Sunday you will divest yourself of nearly all your worldly goods and on the holy day, you will go to a church and pray for your soul and that of others. When I come to America, if I see a poor man beside the road, I will stop the hire car and give you a real apple and you will know your life has a deeper meaning than it had before. Wear a battered hat with strings and corks hanging off it to assist me. -- dorayme
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| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-14 21:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mgkoet$soi$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #28844 |
On 4/14/15 PDT 5:58 PM, AV3 wrote: > > That suggests a considerable underestimate of demand. It probably takes > goldsmiths that much time to make at least several hundred more cases. I > ordered the same watch as Michelle just after midnight EDT online, while > she ordered hers in an Arizona store, presumably several hours later, > but we both ended up in the same delivery promise time, suggesting that > demand for that watch was relatively low and stretched out through that > ordering period. It doesn't indicate much of anything. Could be their marketing plan for that segment. Also, I just don't see a few old fashioned goldsmiths smiting out gold cases in traditional smithing operations.
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| From | AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 11:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mglvk4$gmj$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #28848 |
On 4/15/15, 0:13, John McWilliams wrote: > On 4/14/15 PDT 5:58 PM, AV3 wrote: >> >> That suggests a considerable underestimate of demand. It probably takes >> goldsmiths that much time to make at least several hundred more cases. I >> ordered the same watch as Michelle just after midnight EDT online, while >> she ordered hers in an Arizona store, presumably several hours later, >> but we both ended up in the same delivery promise time, suggesting that >> demand for that watch was relatively low and stretched out through that >> ordering period. > > It doesn't indicate much of anything. Could be their marketing plan for > that segment. > > Also, I just don't see a few old fashioned goldsmiths smiting out gold > cases in traditional smithing operations. I envision a process of making a piece of jewelry by manufacturing processes and ending with an individual goldsmith applying at least finishing touches. Gold is soft and not entirely manipulable by machine. > -- ++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++ ||Arnold VICTOR, New York City, i. e., <arvimideQ@Wearthlink.net> || ||Arnoldo VIKTORO, Nov-jorkurbo, t. e., <arvimideQ@Wearthlink.net> || ||Remove capital letters from e-mail address for correct address/ || || Forigu majusklajn literojn el e-poŝta adreso por ĝusta adreso || ++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 12:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cp758vF44d9U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #28844 |
On 2015-04-15, AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote: > On 4/12/15, 11:16, nospam wrote: >> >> if you ordered a gold watch at 12:01a on friday, you might have had a >> 4/24 ship date. 5-10 minutes later, shipping times for *all* versions >> slipped into may or later. > > That suggests a considerable underestimate of demand. No, it does not. It suggests demand is higher than supply, though. That can be due to many reasons, one of which is because manufacturing takes time. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 11:42 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mgm0tp$j3h$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #28850 |
On 4/15/15, 8:52, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2015-04-15, AV3<arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote: >> On 4/12/15, 11:16, nospam wrote: >>> >>> if you ordered a gold watch at 12:01a on friday, you might have had a >>> 4/24 ship date. 5-10 minutes later, shipping times for *all* versions >>> slipped into may or later. >> >> That suggests a considerable underestimate of demand. > > No, it does not. It suggests demand is higher than supply, though. That > can be due to many reasons, one of which is because manufacturing takes > time. > Apple knows how long manufacturing takes down to the second. Demand being higher than supply is a good definition of underestimation. My suggestion is that Apple didn't allot sufficient manufacturing time to the gold watch, because it underestimated demand. I suppose that fine-tooled gold watch cases require a lot more time to make than stamped-out cases. Apple was ready with a few, but not enough. I don't presume to know how many more they might have had on hand, had they anticipated greater demand. -- ++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++ ||Arnold VICTOR, New York City, i. e., <arvimideQ@Wearthlink.net> || ||Arnoldo VIKTORO, Nov-jorkurbo, t. e., <arvimideQ@Wearthlink.net> || ||Remove capital letters from e-mail address for correct address/ || || Forigu majusklajn literojn el e-poŝta adreso por ĝusta adreso || ++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 11:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <150420151149197387%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #28857 |
In article <mgm0tp$j3h$1@news.albasani.net>, AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Apple knows how long manufacturing takes down to the second. Demand > being higher than supply is a good definition of underestimation. nope. there's a limit to how many can be manufactured. the estimates could be *exactly* correct, but if they're above that number, there will be backlogs.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 15:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cp7g1pF44d9U12@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #28857 |
On 2015-04-15, AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote: > On 4/15/15, 8:52, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2015-04-15, AV3<arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote: >>> On 4/12/15, 11:16, nospam wrote: >>>> >>>> if you ordered a gold watch at 12:01a on friday, you might have had a >>>> 4/24 ship date. 5-10 minutes later, shipping times for *all* versions >>>> slipped into may or later. >>> >>> That suggests a considerable underestimate of demand. >> >> No, it does not. It suggests demand is higher than supply, though. That >> can be due to many reasons, one of which is because manufacturing takes >> time. > > Apple knows how long manufacturing takes down to the second. Demand > being higher than supply is a good definition of underestimation. Nope, demand can be higher than supply due to many factors that have absolutely nothing to do with estimation. > My suggestion is that Apple didn't allot sufficient manufacturing time > to the gold watch, because it underestimated demand. So far you haven't offered a shred of proof showing your assertion to be true. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 22:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmitqhi.266.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #28857 |
In message <mgm0tp$j3h$1@news.albasani.net> AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote: > On 4/15/15, 8:52, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2015-04-15, AV3<arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote: >>> On 4/12/15, 11:16, nospam wrote: >>>> >>>> if you ordered a gold watch at 12:01a on friday, you might have had a >>>> 4/24 ship date. 5-10 minutes later, shipping times for *all* versions >>>> slipped into may or later. >>> >>> That suggests a considerable underestimate of demand. >> >> No, it does not. It suggests demand is higher than supply, though. That >> can be due to many reasons, one of which is because manufacturing takes >> time. >> > Apple knows how long manufacturing takes down to the second. Demand > being higher than supply is a good definition of underestimation. Nope. You can't just gear up all your manufacturing to have enough at launch, because then you have idle factory manufacturing in Q2 of a device cycle. You are constantly balancing between getting enough built to try to meet demand with your future sales. Apple sold 75 million iPhone 6/6+ in their first quarter and were still constrained in their sales by their ability to fill the supply chain. It's 100x more difficult with a new product. > My suggestion is that Apple didn't allot sufficient manufacturing time > to the gold watch, because it underestimated demand. My suggestion is you have no idea what you are talking about. -- Why can't you be in a good mood? How hard is it to decide to be in a good mood and be in a good mood once in a while?"
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-11 14:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <110420151418057277%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #28716 |
In article <100420152235080311%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > I ordered my Apple Watch a couple of minutes after midnight, PDT, and > > was informed I should receive it in the second half of May. I will check > > out its avatar at an Apple store in the meantime. > > > > Did anyone get a promise of earlier delivery? New reports late today > > state that delivery in July is the current delivery date. > > Delivery is partially based on the model of the watch and the band. At > midnight last night, the •Watch Sport was scheduled for delivery > between April 24 and May 1. The •Watch edition was scheduled for July > or August, depending on the band and whether it is rose gold or yellow > gold. the $12k rose gold version with the white sport band is showing june delivery right now.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-04-11 21:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <110420152136021742%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #28736 |
In article <110420151418057277%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > the $12k rose gold version with the white sport band is showing june > delivery right now. Actually, all of the gold ones are showing June now.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-04-11 11:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmii11i.vn7.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #28709 |
In message <mg9s1j$75q$1@news.albasani.net> AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote: > I ordered my Apple Watch a couple of minutes after midnight, PDT, and > was informed I should receive it in the second half of May. I will check > out its avatar at an Apple store in the meantime. > Did anyone get a promise of earlier delivery? New reports late today > state that delivery in July is the current delivery date. A friend of mine has a Apr 24th delivery date. > Has someone created an Apple Watch newsgroup? I checked out the words > "watch" and "applewatch" without finding them in the name of any Apple > newsgroup. If not, which newsgroup is the proper one in which to discuss it? I'd say the iPhone one, since it is an iPhone accessory. -- A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.
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| From | Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-11 14:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mgbabm$t7o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #28709 |
For your reference, records indicate that AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote: > Has someone created an Apple Watch newsgroup? I checked out the words > "watch" and "applewatch" without finding them in the name of any Apple > newsgroup. If not, which newsgroup is the proper one in which to discuss it? The Usenet hierarchy is a bit of a mess when it comes to mobile devices. Since the Apple Watch is currently tied to the iPhone, the most on-topic group is probably going to be misc.phone.mobile.iphone. -- "Also . . . I can kill you with my brain." River Tam, Trash, Firefly
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-11 19:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5529ad01$0$20174$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #28709 |
In article <mg9s1j$75q$1@news.albasani.net>, AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote: > I ordered my Apple Watch a couple of minutes after midnight, PDT, and > was informed I should receive it in the second half of May. I will check > out its avatar at an Apple store in the meantime. You know, if you'd bought a Rolex Red Submariner in 1968 (say) it would be worth about $20000 today. And Rolex "support" it (meaning you can get it serviced at a Rolex Genius Bar) and it's almost 50 years old. Apple don't have a reputation for maintaining their hardware beyond about 6 or 7 years (look at the very expensive Mac Pro 1,1). So, douchebag buys the $12000 iSwatch, and 5 years from now Apple say, "ah, too bad, so sad, we gonna upgrade the system software so you're just screwed," and douchebag says "thank you Steve, for your infinite mercy" and throws it into the drawer with his daughter's Beanie Babies and his Polaroid instant camera and the Rubik's cube he never solved and gives Apple some more money for another one. Here they come. But the iSwatch monitors your heart rate and you can book an Uber car with it and it even runs Yo (maybe). That's nice. I'll go with Rolex. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-12 00:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cots6iFmfqsU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #28743 |
On 2015-04-11, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <mg9s1j$75q$1@news.albasani.net>, > AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> I ordered my Apple Watch a couple of minutes after midnight, PDT, and >> was informed I should receive it in the second half of May. I will check >> out its avatar at an Apple store in the meantime. > > You know, if you'd bought a Rolex Red Submariner in 1968 (say) it would > be worth about $20000 today. And Rolex "support" it (meaning you can get > it serviced at a Rolex Genius Bar) and it's almost 50 years old. Apple > don't have a reputation for maintaining their hardware beyond about 6 or > 7 years (look at the very expensive Mac Pro 1,1). Technology stands still for no-one. Nature of the beast. Without innovation and progress, there would be no technology. Some find it hard to understand that to fight it is to kill it. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-12 11:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mge2mp$h18$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #28746 |
On 4/11/15, 20:22, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2015-04-11, Warren Oates<warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: >> In article<mg9s1j$75q$1@news.albasani.net>, >> AV3<arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> I ordered my Apple Watch a couple of minutes after midnight, PDT, and >>> was informed I should receive it in the second half of May. I will check >>> out its avatar at an Apple store in the meantime. >> >> You know, if you'd bought a Rolex Red Submariner in 1968 (say) it would >> be worth about $20000 today. And Rolex "support" it (meaning you can get >> it serviced at a Rolex Genius Bar) and it's almost 50 years old. Apple >> don't have a reputation for maintaining their hardware beyond about 6 or >> 7 years (look at the very expensive Mac Pro 1,1). > > Technology stands still for no-one. Nature of the beast. Without > innovation and progress, there would be no technology. Some find it hard > to understand that to fight it is to kill it. > Rolex sold a technology and level of quality and service aimed at long-term support. I was the internal working as well as the exterior appearance that brought the high price. The gold Apple Watch's extra value is entirely in its case. The interior is not substantially advanced over watches costing less than $1000. Apparently people nowadays are willing to pay Rolex prices for the exterior. It suggests to me that inflation has struck the jewelry market. -- ++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++ ||Arnold VICTOR, New York City, i. e., <arvimideQ@Wearthlink.net> || ||Arnoldo VIKTORO, Nov-jorkurbo, t. e., <arvimideQ@Wearthlink.net> || ||Remove capital letters from e-mail address for correct address/ || || Forigu majusklajn literojn el e-poŝta adreso por ĝusta adreso || ++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-11 20:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <110420152028059261%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #28743 |
In article <5529ad01$0$20174$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > So, douchebag buys the $12000 iSwatch, and 5 years from now Apple say, > "ah, too bad, so sad, we gonna upgrade the system software so you're > just screwed," and douchebag says "thank you Steve, for your infinite > mercy" and throws it into the drawer with his daughter's Beanie Babies > and his Polaroid instant camera and the Rubik's cube he never solved and > gives Apple some more money for another one. someone who drops $12k on a watch doesn't really care about that. they already have more money than they know what to do with. they can always sell it, just like the rest of the mortals with the sport version who are going to upgrade.
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