Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it?

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject	Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it?
Date	2015-04-20 04:19 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID	<cpjd3dF7dq8U6@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2015-04-20, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote in message
> 1m36mic.1tmh537z93w6cNMon, 20 Apr 2015 14:58:00 +1200empson@actrix.gen.nz
>
>> They already did, at least three or four times.
>
> Actually, only nospam mentioned that it was in the preferences and not in
> the Save As dialog box, which, when I saw that, I changed it for the user 
> (which may or may not be a good thing if it didn't just *add* the option).
>
> Only after I had changed it, did Jolly Roger mention the same steps.

No, I mentioned another much simpler way, and you flatly ignored it,
because you want to troll.

> Nobody else (IIRC) mentioned that you have to unhide a hidden option, just
> to get the default text editor to save as ASCII text.

Wrong. As I already told you, all you have to do is choose Format > Make
Plain Text before saving. No preferences need to be changed.

>> Once you have a new document window, you can change the mode for that
>> document without affecting the application default, by clicking on the
>> Format menu and choosing Make Plain Text (or Make Rich Text to go back
>> to rich mode again).
>
> That's a very odd way to do it, if I understand you correctly.
> You save as the wrong format, and then you format the wrong format to the 
> right format?

No, idiot. You create a new document, type some text, choose Format >
Make Plain Text (or Format > Make Rich Text if you wish) and then save
it. Only one save. Simple.

> But, interestingly, if what nospam intimated is correct (that you can't
> save as ASCII text *or* something else), then that oddball method may be 
> the best method I can offer this Macintosh user. 

He said no such thing, and you are wrong.

>> Once you have the document in plain text mode, you can save a plain text
>> file using File > Save. (The Save As dialog then offers a choice of
>> various plain text formats, including UTF-16, UTF-8 and various 8-bit
>> options with different character sets.)
>
> Oh oh. That's bad news. That's what nospam intimated. So, if I understand
> you correctly, this user can't save ASCII text and still have the option 
> to save as the other formats. That's bad. Very bad. (dumb actually).

Wrong. You can change the format to plain or rich text any time you want
and save the document accordingly.

> So, that means that tomorrow, I'll have to unset the option I set for
> this Macintosh user, and then tell the user that they have to save first
> into the wrong format, and then format into the right format (I'll have
> to test if ASCII text is one of the available right formats though).

You shouldn't have changed his preferences to begin with since it's not
your computer. If you had bothered to read my instructions, you'd have
known that simply choosing Format > Make Plain Text was all that you
needed to do before saving the document.

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