Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it?

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject	Re: How do mac users create a blank text file where you want it?
Date	2015-04-20 04:31 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID	<cpjdpiF7dq8U9@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2015-04-20, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
> 190420152037478396%michelle@michelle.org
>
>>> It wasn't intuitive that you have to basically turn off the
>>> capability to Save As, by turning on the capability for the default
>>> text editor to save ASCII text, but it's done.
>> 
>> You don't lose anything.
>
> Actually, if what nospam, David Empson, and David Ritz said is true,
> you *do* (temporarily) lose the capability to Save As whenever you set
> the capability to save to ASCII text in the default editor
> preferences.

Bullshit:

1. Format > Make Plain Text.  2. Save the document. 

The only thing that is lost is you - hopelessly.

> It's almost as if Apple made saving ASCII as convoluted & unintuitive
> as possible

No, it's as if Apple make TextEdit treat documents as rich text by
default. And you have chosen to ignore the simple Format > Make Plain
Text menu command.

>; but, I now think I understand what you folks do every day to have the
>option to save *either* as ASCII or some other format from your default
>text editor.

Nope. You don't understand anything.

> You either: a. Temporarily unhide the preference to save ASCII and
> then save the ASCII file and then re-hide the preference to save
> ASCII.
>
> or, you:
>
> b. Temporarily save as the wrong format (e.g., RTF), and then you go
> to the Format menu and then you save into the desired format (i.e.,
> ASCII text).

Nope. Wrong again. There is no need to save the document *before* you
set the format, dummy. Set the format, and then save. Duh.

Also, you missed a third option (which is actually what most people do):

Use a better (and free) plain text editor, such as TextWrangler.

> Given those are the *only* two options that solve the problem using
> the default text editor

Wrong (see above).

> I can see now (in spades) why nospam and others were advising a text
> editor other than the default TextEdit.

Wrong again. The reason we are suggesting TextWrangler is because it has
*many* more features that are designed with plain text editing in mind,
while TextEdit features are mostly designed for rich text. Apparently
nobody ever taught you to use the right tool for the job.

> I'll explain to the Mac user tomorrow these (IMHO) idiotic options.

Poor guy. What a horribly misinformed "teacher"...

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