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Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite

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On 2014-08-01, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <c407nnFq2f4U1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-31, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> > In article <c3tfmbF8g57U4@mid.individual.net>,
>> >  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2014-07-30, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > If this just started with Yosemite, I guess you should report it to 
>> >> > Apple. This is the whole point of being a beta tester, right? You're 
>> >> > expecting problems, so you can report them to Apple and they can fix 
>> >> > them before the official release.
>> >> 
>> >> What would this bug report be, though - that Mail should not be using
>> >> APOP? To me it seems this is working as designed, and the real issue is
>> >> that the *server* is not accepting authentication properly, no?
>> >
>> > I don't have Yosemite, but in Snow Leopard, Password and APOP are 
>> > separate choices in the Authentication menu. If the APOP option is gone, 
>> > then you can submit a feature request that they add it back. If it's 
>> > still there, but she hasn't chosen it, the bug would be that it uses a 
>> > different authentication mechanism than the one you configured.
>> >
>> > It may be working as designed, but the design could be wrong. If 3+3 
>> > returns 5, it doesn't become correct just because you document it in the 
>> > processor manual.
>> 
>> I'm just thinking if Mail is *designed* to use APOP whenever the POP
>> server indicates that it is supported, the bug report will simply be
>> marked as "working as designed". It's worth a shot either way, though.
>
> But since the authentication menu still contains APOP as a separate 
> option, as Michelle confirmed it does, they shouldn't override the 
> user's choice.
>
> It's fine to have an option where the application figures it out 
> automatically, like they do for the outgoing port number. But they 
> shouldn't treat the Password option as "APOP or Password".

Agreed.

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Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 19:21 -0700
  Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-07-30 14:35 +1200
    Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 22:03 -0700
      Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-07-30 17:55 +1200
        Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 00:26 -0700
          Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2014-07-30 12:21 +0000
            Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 13:10 +0000
            Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 07:57 -0700
          Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 13:06 +0000
            Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 07:58 -0700
              Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 15:25 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 08:44 -0700
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 18:00 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 12:39 -0700
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-07-30 16:27 -0400
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 13:35 -0700
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-07-30 16:41 -0400
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 14:07 -0700
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-31 00:07 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-07-31 18:15 -0400
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 01:10 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-08-01 10:57 -0400
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 14:58 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-31 20:59 -0700
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-31 00:05 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-31 00:04 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 18:03 -0700
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-31 01:56 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 20:17 -0700
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-31 04:19 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 21:36 -0700
              Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:23 +0000
          Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 13:13 +0000
            Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 07:59 -0700
              Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 15:24 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 08:46 -0700
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 17:58 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-30 12:35 -0700
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-31 00:01 +0000
  Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-30 02:36 +0000
    Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-29 22:10 -0700
      Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-01 15:16 +0000
        Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-08-01 08:46 -0700
          Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-01 15:48 +0000
          Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 00:40 +0000
            Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite MartinC <noreply@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 12:57 +0200
              Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 07:04 -0400
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite MartinC <noreply@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 13:42 +0200
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 12:52 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 09:00 -0400
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-02 13:36 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-08-02 13:48 -0400
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-08-03 08:43 +1000
              Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-02 12:48 +0000
                Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite MartinC <noreply@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-02 15:37 +0200

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