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  How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 22:11 -0400
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 22:23 -0400
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 22:49 -0400
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 23:35 -0400
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 23:46 -0400
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-24 20:59 -0700
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-25 17:24 +1300
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 00:29 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 00:41 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 01:28 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 07:57 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 01:31 -0700
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 01:31 -0700
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-24 21:00 -0700
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-25 14:08 +0000
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 22:30 -0400
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2026-10-26 09:18 +0100
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-26 06:51 -0400
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2026-10-26 14:18 +0100
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-26 09:36 -0400
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 10:34 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2026-10-26 21:22 +0100
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 19:36 -0400
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-26 12:50 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-26 13:25 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-26 14:05 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-26 15:24 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 21:33 -0400
                        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-26 18:48 -0700
                          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-27 18:11 +1300
                            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-27 14:39 +0000
                              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 00:12 -0400
                        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 22:53 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-26 11:15 -0700
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 20:13 -0400
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-26 13:47 +0000
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-26 23:00 +0100
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 00:02 -0400
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-28 18:32 +0100
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 15:57 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 21:01 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-28 22:19 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 23:00 -0400
                        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 03:01 -0400
                          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-29 14:14 -0400
                            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-29 11:57 -0700
                        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-29 12:03 +0100
                          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 11:24 -0400
                            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-29 21:05 +0100
                              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 16:31 -0400
                                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-29 21:20 -0400
                                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-29 18:45 -0700
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-27 18:34 +0000
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-27 12:01 -0700
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it> - 2026-10-25 18:27 +0100
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 11:01 -0700
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 16:36 -0400
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 17:42 -0700
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2026-10-25 18:14 -0400
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 22:45 -0400
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 13:17 +0100
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-27 10:15 -0400
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 20:18 +0100
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-27 17:02 -0400
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 23:09 +0100
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-27 23:53 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-28 18:27 +0100
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 16:31 -0400
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-10-28 08:18 +0000
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 16:37 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-28 13:54 -0700
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 00:33 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-28 22:24 -0700
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-30 00:27 -0400
                        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-30 06:46 -0700
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-27 10:41 -0400
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 20:21 +0100
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-30 12:00 +1100

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#149865

On 2026-10-26 03:45, Maria Sophia wrote:
> While your kind suggestion will work, it doesn't keep everything on the
> local LAN since email services (Gmail, Outlook, etc.) sync drafts via the
> internet. Even if our devices are on the same local network, the draft
> would still need to connect to the email server, wouldn't it?

You know that terrorists and really bad guys used this method, and the 
authorities took long to find them out?

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#149868

On 2026-10-27 8:17 a.m., Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-10-26 03:45, Maria Sophia wrote:
>> While your kind suggestion will work, it doesn't keep everything on the
>> local LAN since email services (Gmail, Outlook, etc.) sync drafts via the
>> internet. Even if our devices are on the same local network, the draft
>> would still need to connect to the email server, wouldn't it?
> 
> You know that terrorists and really bad guys used this method, and the 
> authorities took long to find them out?

If you don't want the draft to connect to the Internet, you are free to 
connect to your e-mail using POP3 which downloads everything and erases 
it from the server. Similarly, it doesn't send a draft until you are 
ready to do so. Until that time, it resides on your computer. Absolutely 
nothing is stored on the server itself, so it is a lot more secure 
albeit more cumbersome for archivists such as myself. If you are an 
archivist but want to remain secure, you can use a service like Posteo 
which encrypts absolutely all data, making it unreadable to anyone who 
doesn't have access to the private key. The key itself can also be 
stored somewhere safe on an encrypted storage device.


-- 
CrudeSausage
MacBook Air M4 Sky Blue
iPhone 13
Friendly Apple zealot

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#149874

On 2026-10-27 15:15, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2026-10-27 8:17 a.m., Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-10-26 03:45, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>> While your kind suggestion will work, it doesn't keep everything on the
>>> local LAN since email services (Gmail, Outlook, etc.) sync drafts via 
>>> the
>>> internet. Even if our devices are on the same local network, the draft
>>> would still need to connect to the email server, wouldn't it?
>>
>> You know that terrorists and really bad guys used this method, and the 
>> authorities took long to find them out?
> 
> If you don't want the draft to connect to the Internet, you are free to 
> connect to your e-mail using POP3 which downloads everything and erases 
> it from the server.

Which is contrary to the point. You have to UPLOAD the draft to the server.


> Similarly, it doesn't send a draft until you are 
> ready to do so. Until that time, it resides on your computer. Absolutely 
> nothing is stored on the server itself, so it is a lot more secure 
> albeit more cumbersome for archivists such as myself. If you are an 
> archivist but want to remain secure, you can use a service like Posteo 
> which encrypts absolutely all data, making it unreadable to anyone who 
> doesn't have access to the private key. The key itself can also be 
> stored somewhere safe on an encrypted storage device.
> 
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#149878

On 2026-10-27 3:18 p.m., Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-10-27 15:15, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2026-10-27 8:17 a.m., Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-10-26 03:45, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>>> While your kind suggestion will work, it doesn't keep everything on the
>>>> local LAN since email services (Gmail, Outlook, etc.) sync drafts 
>>>> via the
>>>> internet. Even if our devices are on the same local network, the draft
>>>> would still need to connect to the email server, wouldn't it?
>>>
>>> You know that terrorists and really bad guys used this method, and 
>>> the authorities took long to find them out?
>>
>> If you don't want the draft to connect to the Internet, you are free 
>> to connect to your e-mail using POP3 which downloads everything and 
>> erases it from the server.
> 
> Which is contrary to the point. You have to UPLOAD the draft to the server.

Yes, but while IMAP immediately saves your draft to the server as you're 
composing it, POP3 only delivers it to the server once you actually 
press the send button. As such, you can choose the form the server 
receives, such as encrypting it before it leaves your computer.

-- 
CrudeSausage
MacBook Air M4 Sky Blue
iPhone 13
Friendly Apple zealot

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#149879

On 2026-10-27 22:02, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2026-10-27 3:18 p.m., Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-10-27 15:15, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> On 2026-10-27 8:17 a.m., Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2026-10-26 03:45, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>>>> While your kind suggestion will work, it doesn't keep everything on 
>>>>> the
>>>>> local LAN since email services (Gmail, Outlook, etc.) sync drafts 
>>>>> via the
>>>>> internet. Even if our devices are on the same local network, the draft
>>>>> would still need to connect to the email server, wouldn't it?
>>>>
>>>> You know that terrorists and really bad guys used this method, and 
>>>> the authorities took long to find them out?
>>>
>>> If you don't want the draft to connect to the Internet, you are free 
>>> to connect to your e-mail using POP3 which downloads everything and 
>>> erases it from the server.
>>
>> Which is contrary to the point. You have to UPLOAD the draft to the 
>> server.
> 
> Yes, but while IMAP immediately saves your draft to the server as you're 
> composing it, POP3 only delivers it to the server once you actually 
> press the send button. As such, you can choose the form the server 
> receives, such as encrypting it before it leaves your computer.
> 

BUT that's the point, what I propose, what the bad guys used because it 
was secure from snooping by authorities, is NOT SENDING. That's the 
whole point.

If you send, there is a route and many servers involved, one of which 
can read your post. The trick is not sending, ever. One bad guy wrote 
the post and left it in drafts. Another bad guy in a different place 
accessed the same account, looked in drafts, and read it.

Instead of bad guys, just good guys with privacy in mind. The method is 
private as long as you trust the mail provider. For instance, Proton.

The encryption is https, if you use the web mail front. Or imaps if you 
don't. Might work with some types of mail encryption. Thunderbird can be 
told to save encrypted drafts.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#149882

Carlos E.R. wrote:
> BUT that's the point, what I propose, what the bad guys used because it 
> was secure from snooping by authorities, is NOT SENDING. That's the 
> whole point.
> 
> If you send, there is a route and many servers involved, one of which 
> can read your post. The trick is not sending, ever. One bad guy wrote 
> the post and left it in drafts. Another bad guy in a different place 
> accessed the same account, looked in drafts, and read it.
> 
> Instead of bad guys, just good guys with privacy in mind. The method is 
> private as long as you trust the mail provider. For instance, Proton.
> 
> The encryption is https, if you use the web mail front. Or imaps if you 
> don't. Might work with some types of mail encryption. Thunderbird can be 
> told to save encrypted drafts.

Hi Carlos,

You know me well where when someone gets caught and it makes the news, I
try to figure out *how* they got caught (by their computer or phone use).

All intelligent people have a good memory, where I remember when General
David Petraeus's resignation as CIA Director in 2012 followed an
extramarital affair with biographer Paula Broadwell when they would
communicate, via the same account, via drafts, sans any encryption.
 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petraeus_scandal>

     "Petraeus and Broadwell used fake names to create free
      webmail accounts exchanging messages without encryption tools. 
      They would share an email account, with one saving a message 
      in the drafts folder and the other deleting it after reading it."

They likely would have gotten away with it since nobody was looking at
email drafts (apparently) at the time, but he was CIA & they were FBI.

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#149892

On 2026-10-28 04:53, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> BUT that's the point, what I propose, what the bad guys used because it
>> was secure from snooping by authorities, is NOT SENDING. That's the
>> whole point.
>>
>> If you send, there is a route and many servers involved, one of which
>> can read your post. The trick is not sending, ever. One bad guy wrote
>> the post and left it in drafts. Another bad guy in a different place
>> accessed the same account, looked in drafts, and read it.
>>
>> Instead of bad guys, just good guys with privacy in mind. The method is
>> private as long as you trust the mail provider. For instance, Proton.
>>
>> The encryption is https, if you use the web mail front. Or imaps if you
>> don't. Might work with some types of mail encryption. Thunderbird can be
>> told to save encrypted drafts.
> 
> Hi Carlos,
> 
> You know me well where when someone gets caught and it makes the news, I
> try to figure out *how* they got caught (by their computer or phone use).
> 
> All intelligent people have a good memory, where I remember when General
> David Petraeus's resignation as CIA Director in 2012 followed an
> extramarital affair with biographer Paula Broadwell when they would
> communicate, via the same account, via drafts, sans any encryption.
>   <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petraeus_scandal>
> 
>       "Petraeus and Broadwell used fake names to create free
>        webmail accounts exchanging messages without encryption tools.
>        They would share an email account, with one saving a message
>        in the drafts folder and the other deleting it after reading it."
> 
> They likely would have gotten away with it since nobody was looking at
> email drafts (apparently) at the time, but he was CIA & they were FBI.

Yes, I knew about that :-)

It worked for many years, till it was publicized. I don't remember if it 
was this case or another.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#149898

Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> They likely would have gotten away with it since nobody was looking at
>> email drafts (apparently) at the time, but he was CIA & they were FBI.
> 
> Yes, I knew about that :-)
> 
> It worked for many years, till it was publicized. I don't remember if it 
> was this case or another.

Well, it's good to see how others get caught 'cuz we learn stuff from that.

Actually, the Petraeus situation was a bit different than the Canadian Navy 
spy for Russia Jeffrey Delisle 
<https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/petraeus-used-canadian-navy-spy-s-email-trick-1.1172104> 
because Petraeus' 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petraeus_scandal> 
situation was kind of like the Elliott Spitzer thing 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Spitzer_prostitution_scandal>, where 
the feds thought they were "protecting" their own people by snooping on 
their communications (both of whom were high-level government employees).

Apparently Al-Qaeda did it before anyone knew about it.
 <https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/front/special/techsidebar.html>

One thing I learned in windowless buildings at Fort Meade long ago
was a *lot* of stuff goes on that you don't even think is happening.

Fundamentally, you don't protect against what you "think" they'll do.
You protect against what you think they "can" do.

Personally, having studied encryption historically, I doubt there is
an encryption around that they haven't cracked in some form, given 
the weak link is usually something mundane, as in all cases above.

But, the point here is even if we're NOT being chased by the feds, 
using good security practices on an iOS device with Windows is
practically cumbersome, but it's the right way to do things.

As Nick Charles kindly opined, for most people, the Files/SMB method should
work for most people since they have passwords most likely on their PC.

For me, sans passwords, Files + LocalSend worked great, but I readily
admit that WebDav works for Android but I don't know if it works for iOS.

C:\> net use Z: \\102.168.1.2@8000\DavWWWRoot /USER:joe * /PERSISTENT:YES

 <https://i.postimg.cc/gcKXV6F7/webdav16.jpg> A third free WebDAV server
 <https://i.postimg.cc/JhjpnRgh/webdav14.jpg> Mirroring Android on Windows
 <https://i.postimg.cc/QtbR1GY0/webdav13.jpg> Over Wi-Fi on your home LAN
 <https://i.postimg.cc/yYWwgGmy/webdav12.jpg> As Windows drive letters
 <https://i.postimg.cc/BQyRxCN9/webdav11.jpg> Mount sdcards read & write
 <https://i.postimg.cc/wM4Z45pN/webdav10.jpg> Free Android WebDAV servers
 <https://i.postimg.cc/D0qMxTMB/webdav09.jpg> FOSS general purpose solution 
 <https://i.postimg.cc/qv6HJ7GN/webdav08.jpg> Each sdcard is a drive letter
 <https://i.postimg.cc/cJLK1wt0/webdav07.jpg> Mount the entire filesystem
 <https://i.postimg.cc/BvJdKWzt/webdav06.jpg> Both sdcards mounted
 <https://i.postimg.cc/Njm6ZXsc/webdav05.jpg> Permissions are the same
 <https://i.postimg.cc/3xCsd4HX/webdav04.jpg> My Files has permission 
 <https://i.postimg.cc/BvmRBrbt/webdav03.jpg> File Manager has permission
 <https://i.postimg.cc/X7FS61HD/webdav02.jpg> X-plore has no permission
 <https://i.postimg.cc/sxzR0Pg8/webdav01.jpg> WebDav has no sd permission

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#149886

Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2026-10-27 15:15, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2026-10-27 8:17 a.m., Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-10-26 03:45, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>>> While your kind suggestion will work, it doesn't keep everything on the
>>>> local LAN since email services (Gmail, Outlook, etc.) sync drafts via 
>>>> the
>>>> internet. Even if our devices are on the same local network, the draft
>>>> would still need to connect to the email server, wouldn't it?
>>> 
>>> You know that terrorists and really bad guys used this method, and the 
>>> authorities took long to find them out?
>> 
>> If you don't want the draft to connect to the Internet, you are free to 
>> connect to your e-mail using POP3 which downloads everything and erases 
>> it from the server.
> 
> Which is contrary to the point. 

The point was to, yet again, manufacture a supposed weakness in iOS/iPadOS.


No response will make any difference to Donald. He'll ignore all
suggestions and still count it as a win in his addled "highly intelligent"
brain. 

We all have ways to deal with the manufactured problem that are effective
and efficient. 

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#149899

Chris wrote:
>>> If you don't want the draft to connect to the Internet, you are free to 
>>> connect to your e-mail using POP3 which downloads everything and erases 
>>> it from the server.
>> 
>> Which is contrary to the point. 
> 
> The point was to, yet again, manufacture a supposed weakness in iOS/iPadOS.

Actually, iOS was never designed to be interoperable with anything that was
not made by Apple, as far as anyone who is reasonable would claim, AFAIK.

Are you seriously claiming Apple's iOS is as interoperable with Windows as,
oh, say Android, Chris?

If so, your claim is ridiculously absurd on all accounts, and if I'm wrong,
let's see someone on the normal OS newsgroups claim that you're correct.

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#149901

On 28 Oct 2026, Maria Sophia wrote in
<11btmeb$1rod$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:
> Chris wrote:
>>>> If you don't want the draft to connect to the Internet, you are
>>>> free to connect to your e-mail using POP3 which downloads
>>>> everything and erases it from the server.
>>> 
>>> Which is contrary to the point.
>> 
>> The point was to, yet again, manufacture a supposed weakness in
>> iOS/iPadOS.
> 
> Actually, iOS was never designed to be interoperable with anything
> that was not made by Apple, as far as anyone who is reasonable would
> claim, AFAIK.
> 
> Are you seriously claiming Apple's iOS is as interoperable with
> Windows as, oh, say Android, Chris?
> 
> If so, your claim is ridiculously absurd on all accounts, and if I'm
> wrong, let's see someone on the normal OS newsgroups claim that you're
> correct.

Everything goes though the 'net these days... but, sure, Apple stuff
works better with Apple stuff, just as Google stuff works better with
Google stuff. And?



-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#149916

On Wed, 10/28/2026 4:54 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On 28 Oct 2026, Maria Sophia wrote in
> <11btmeb$1rod$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:
>> Chris wrote:
>>>>> If you don't want the draft to connect to the Internet, you are
>>>>> free to connect to your e-mail using POP3 which downloads
>>>>> everything and erases it from the server.
>>>>
>>>> Which is contrary to the point.
>>>
>>> The point was to, yet again, manufacture a supposed weakness in
>>> iOS/iPadOS.
>>
>> Actually, iOS was never designed to be interoperable with anything
>> that was not made by Apple, as far as anyone who is reasonable would
>> claim, AFAIK.
>>
>> Are you seriously claiming Apple's iOS is as interoperable with
>> Windows as, oh, say Android, Chris?
>>
>> If so, your claim is ridiculously absurd on all accounts, and if I'm
>> wrong, let's see someone on the normal OS newsgroups claim that you're
>> correct.
> 
> Everything goes though the 'net these days... but, sure, Apple stuff
> works better with Apple stuff, just as Google stuff works better with
> Google stuff. And?

You will admit, certain OS combinations work better together.

And in this computer room, what works, is what gets used.

It's a pretty simple formula really, to success,
for the participants.

You don't need to be "perfectly open", just "sufficiently open".

The idea is, to make your box "frictionless", so a person
like maria cannot continuously make soap operas out of it.

I once made a sector level backup of the disk on the Mac G4.
It took a PowerPC DVD version of Ubuntu, "dd" and "ftp".
That is used to capture a disk at rest.
(Ethernet is the fastest I/O on that box.)
Well, today, if I double click the output from that
session in Linux, all the Mac partitions open sequentially
within the bitmap image of the disk. I can see all my files!
(Probably only data forks, as you can imagine. For
important documents left on the disk image, that's
likely to be a good start.) And that's because File Sharing
would not work on MacOS 10.2 . A dialog would open to take
a username and password, but the connection would drop before
you could enter credentials. Nobody ever fixed that.
Yes, all versions of SMB were turned on, on the other boxes.

How attractive is this for a closed ecosystem attempt ?
Pretty unmagical at a guess. Why launch a product when
it isn't ready ? Haven't we learned anything ? Or was the
project close to getting canceled, instead of launched ???

  https://www.techrepublic.com/article/news-googlebook-os-review-app-gemini-problems/

     Paul

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#149919

On 28 Oct 2026, Paul wrote in <11buib0$31njj$1@dont-email.me>:
> On Wed, 10/28/2026 4:54 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On 28 Oct 2026, Maria Sophia wrote in
>> <11btmeb$1rod$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:
>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>> If you don't want the draft to connect to the Internet, you are
>>>>>> free to connect to your e-mail using POP3 which downloads
>>>>>> everything and erases it from the server.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which is contrary to the point.
>>>> 
>>>> The point was to, yet again, manufacture a supposed weakness in
>>>> iOS/iPadOS.
>>> 
>>> Actually, iOS was never designed to be interoperable with anything
>>> that was not made by Apple, as far as anyone who is reasonable would
>>> claim, AFAIK.
>>> 
>>> Are you seriously claiming Apple's iOS is as interoperable with
>>> Windows as, oh, say Android, Chris?
>>> 
>>> If so, your claim is ridiculously absurd on all accounts, and if I'm
>>> wrong, let's see someone on the normal OS newsgroups claim that
>>> you're correct.
>> 
>> Everything goes though the 'net these days... but, sure, Apple stuff
>> works better with Apple stuff, just as Google stuff works better with
>> Google stuff. And?
> 
> You will admit, certain OS combinations work better together.
> 
> And in this computer room, what works, is what gets used.
> 
> It's a pretty simple formula really, to success,
> for the participants.
> 
> You don't need to be "perfectly open", just "sufficiently open".
> 
> The idea is, to make your box "frictionless", so a person like maria
> cannot continuously make soap operas out of it.
> 
> I once made a sector level backup of the disk on the Mac G4. It took a
> PowerPC DVD version of Ubuntu, "dd" and "ftp". That is used to capture
> a disk at rest.
> (Ethernet is the fastest I/O on that box.)
> Well, today, if I double click the output from that
> session in Linux, all the Mac partitions open sequentially within the
> bitmap image of the disk. I can see all my files! (Probably only data
> forks, as you can imagine. For
> important documents left on the disk image, that's
> likely to be a good start.) And that's because File Sharing would not
> work on MacOS 10.2 . A dialog would open to take a username and
> password, but the connection would drop before you could enter
> credentials. Nobody ever fixed that.
> Yes, all versions of SMB were turned on, on the other boxes.

I have seen SMB oddities on macOS in the past.
> 
> How attractive is this for a closed ecosystem attempt ? Pretty
> unmagical at a guess. Why launch a product when it isn't ready ?
> Haven't we learned anything ? Or was the project close to getting
> canceled, instead of launched ???
> 
> https://www.techrepublic.com/article/news-googlebook-os-review-app-gemini-problems/
> 
> Paul
> 



-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#149952

Paul wrote:
> The idea is, to make your box "frictionless", so a person
> like maria cannot continuously make soap operas out of it.

Heh heh heh... I love that! I might use it as a signature line.
Do I need to pay royalties to you for that privilege?

If iOS actually worked, I'd have nothing to say about it.

Worse, if the Apple nutcases would just act like normal people, every
thread that includes them would be an order of magnitude shorter as a
result.

To copy text between iOS and Windows clipboards is a clusterfuck.
Unless you use Vysor.

It's a *lot* easier to copy between Android & Windows clipboards though.
That's because Android has this concept of a file outside of an app.

iOS doesn't.

Android handles files as independent system entities that live in actual
directories. We can grab a file or a chunk of data, and the OS treats it
like an object that can be moved, read, or intercepted by another OS
without locking it inside an app sandbox.

Apple's iOS, by contrast, treats files and clipboards as app-centric
property. Because Apple isolates data inside rigid application containers
by design, getting something as simple as text or a loose file from an
iPhone to a Windows PC without an all-Apple ecosystem forces you to jump
through third-party workarounds (like Vysor, cloud clipping tools, or
messaging yourself).

When people praise iOS "simplicity," they are usually ignoring how
punishingly difficult it makes cross-platform friction.

There's brilliant logic in Apple purposefully making iOS NOT interoperate
with the platforms in the real world, in that Apple makes a LOT of money
out of forcing their constituents to buy an Apple-only ecosystem.

Otherwise, if they try to use their devices in the real world, they fail.
It's a brilliant marketing strategy.

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#149953

On 29 Oct 2026, Maria Sophia wrote in
<11c16c1$4m$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:
> Paul wrote:
>> The idea is, to make your box "frictionless", so a person like
>> maria cannot continuously make soap operas out of it.
> 
> Heh heh heh... I love that! I might use it as a signature line. Do
> I need to pay royalties to you for that privilege?
> 
> If iOS actually worked, I'd have nothing to say about it.

It works well enough where you feel the need to make up problems and
lie.
> 
> Worse, if the Apple nutcases would just act like normal people,
> every thread that includes them would be an order of magnitude
> shorter as a result.

If we pretended your had a point it would just go away. Sure.

> To copy text between iOS and Windows clipboards is a clusterfuck.
> Unless you use Vysor.

So neither plays well with the other, fine. But you do not compare
Android with macOS vs. iOS with Windows.

> It's a *lot* easier to copy between Android & Windows clipboards
> though. That's because Android has this concept of a file outside
> of an app.
> 
> iOS doesn't.

Most people think in terms of files being in apps... as wrong as
that is. But the file is accessible from the Files app... which is
not in the app it was made in.

> Android handles files as independent system entities that live in
> actual directories. We can grab a file or a chunk of data, and the
> OS treats it like an object that can be moved, read, or
> intercepted by another OS without locking it inside an app
> sandbox.

And iOS has a file directory, too... I can get to files I save on my
Mac from my phone.

> Apple's iOS, by contrast, treats files and clipboards as
> app-centric property. Because Apple isolates data inside rigid
> application containers by design, getting something as simple as
> text or a loose file from an iPhone to a Windows PC without an
> all-Apple ecosystem forces you to jump through third-party
> workarounds (like Vysor, cloud clipping tools, or messaging
> yourself).

You have been given many solutions. And you keep looking at Windows
as if that is the norm. I copy to and from my laptop often.

> When people praise iOS "simplicity," they are usually ignoring how
> punishingly difficult it makes cross-platform friction.

Cross-platform involves both platforms.

> There's brilliant logic in Apple purposefully making iOS NOT
> interoperate with the platforms in the real world, in that Apple
> makes a LOT of money out of forcing their constituents to buy an
> Apple-only ecosystem.

They make their ecosystem easier. OK.

> Otherwise, if they try to use their devices in the real world,
> they fail. It's a brilliant marketing strategy.
> 



-- 
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#149870

On Tue, 10/27/2026 8:17 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-10-26 03:45, Maria Sophia wrote:
>> While your kind suggestion will work, it doesn't keep everything on the
>> local LAN since email services (Gmail, Outlook, etc.) sync drafts via the
>> internet. Even if our devices are on the same local network, the draft
>> would still need to connect to the email server, wouldn't it?
> 
> You know that terrorists and really bad guys used this method, and the authorities took long to find them out?
> 

Considering all the progress so far, I think the local email server
is the easiest solution. You know you wanna :-)

   "Personal Mail Server" $3.34

   https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9nklmkqsg9c8?hl=en-US&gl=US

     "Run your own email server with Personal Mail Server — a self-hosted
      SMTP and IMAP mail server that runs entirely on your Windows PC.
      No cloud email providers, no monthly..."

Each time your Windows PC boots, the iPad will see a local IP appear
with the email server it wants to reach.

You could even, secretly, exchange your movies and music, without iTunes :-)
A 7GB attachment to an email file, encoded in BASE64. OK. OK.

I'm beginning to get an Apple vibe now. This could work.

   Paul

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#149875

On 2026-10-27 15:41, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 10/27/2026 8:17 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-10-26 03:45, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>> While your kind suggestion will work, it doesn't keep everything on the
>>> local LAN since email services (Gmail, Outlook, etc.) sync drafts via the
>>> internet. Even if our devices are on the same local network, the draft
>>> would still need to connect to the email server, wouldn't it?
>>
>> You know that terrorists and really bad guys used this method, and the authorities took long to find them out?
>>
> 
> Considering all the progress so far, I think the local email server
> is the easiest solution. You know you wanna :-)

Oh, I have mine. Dovecot on Linux. What I have not done is made it 
accessible over internet, no reason to. :-)

> 
>     "Personal Mail Server" $3.34
> 
>     https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9nklmkqsg9c8?hl=en-US&gl=US
> 
>       "Run your own email server with Personal Mail Server — a self-hosted
>        SMTP and IMAP mail server that runs entirely on your Windows PC.
>        No cloud email providers, no monthly..."
> 
> Each time your Windows PC boots, the iPad will see a local IP appear
> with the email server it wants to reach.
> 
> You could even, secretly, exchange your movies and music, without iTunes :-)
> A 7GB attachment to an email file, encoded in BASE64. OK. OK.
> 

:-D

> I'm beginning to get an Apple vibe now. This could work.
> 
>     Paul


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#149948

On Sun, 25 Oct 2026 13:11:18 +1100, Maria Sophia  
<mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

> Drat. I only have a few minutes and I'm shocked how unintuitive this is.
>
> What's the easiest way to copy text that is on my iPad to Windows when  
> the
> iPad is on the Wi-Fi network, and the iPad is tethered to the PC by USB?
>
> Since the iPad is inches from the PC, any path longer than that is  
> absurd.
>
> I have the text copied to the Apple clipboard, so I just want to paste it
> into a file that I can copy to the PC over the USB or Wi-Fi connection.

I do that daily by posting it to a single text file that I originally
created on the Win system in dropbox

Works fine and even you should be able manage that

> I tried pasting it into a "note" but I've never used Notes. When I opened
> Notes for the first time, Notes asked me to "join the cloud (which, of
> course, I said no to), but even though Notes is open, Notes won't let me
> create a note by pasting the iPad clipboard into it. Why not?
>
> The Notes square-with-a-pencil icon is grayed out no matter what I try.
>
> If Notes won't work, what other SIMPLE way is there to transfer a long  
> text
> to the Windows PC which is only six inches away (so using the Internet
> would be absurd).

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