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  HP laptop dv6000 OS Bill <llib@vacant.void.com> - 2011-06-10 22:29 -0500
    Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-06-11 06:27 -0500
      Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS Bill <llib@vacant.void.com> - 2011-06-11 07:35 -0500
        Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-06-11 08:43 -0500
          Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS Bill <llib@vacant.void.com> - 2011-06-17 09:38 -0500
            Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-06-17 15:57 -0500
              Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS Bill <llib@vacant.void.com> - 2011-06-17 18:41 -0500
              Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2011-06-18 01:24 +0000
                Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS Bill <llib@vacant.void.com> - 2011-06-18 05:16 -0500
                  Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS "Ryan P." <rdeletepaque@wi.rr.comm> - 2011-06-20 08:44 -0500
                    Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-06-21 08:17 -0500
            Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2011-06-18 01:20 +0000
          Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS Bill <llib@vacant.void.com> - 2011-06-23 22:07 -0500
            Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS Bob Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2011-06-24 16:16 -0700
            Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-06-25 05:06 -0500
              Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS Bob Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2011-06-25 04:51 -0700
                Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS Bill <llib@vacant.void.com> - 2011-06-25 07:10 -0500
                Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-06-25 08:55 -0500
            Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-06-30 10:50 -0500
              Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS AJL <1245nomail@none.com> - 2011-06-30 09:59 -0700
                Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-06-30 12:28 -0500
                  Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS AJL <1245nomail@none.com> - 2011-06-30 18:21 -0700
                    Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2011-07-01 23:55 +0000
                    Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-02 05:32 -0500
              Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS Bill <llib@vacant.void.com> - 2011-06-30 17:45 -0500
                Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2011-07-01 23:57 +0000
                Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-07-02 05:18 -0500
              Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS Bob Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2011-07-01 03:41 -0700
              Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2011-07-01 23:54 +0000
                Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS Bill <llib@vacant.void.com> - 2011-07-01 19:14 -0500
                  Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2011-07-02 01:59 +0000
                  Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS AJL <36566678nomail@none.com> - 2011-07-01 21:21 -0700
        Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS "Ryan P." <rdeletepaque@wi.rr.comm> - 2011-06-11 12:43 -0500
    Re: HP laptop dv6000 OS markfinn8_at_gmail_dot_com@foo.com (markfinn) - 2011-08-18 19:16 +0000

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#347

On 6/30/2011 11:59 AM, AJL wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:50:28 -0500, BillW50<BillW50@aol.kom>  wrote:
>
>> I ordered a recovery disc for this laptop just to check it out...
>> And I didn't need to use the key code to install, did you? Although
>> I do have 30 days to activate.
>
> Some  years ago I ordered an HP laptop (XP) restore disk from HP. They
> needed the serial number. When the disks arrived they installed fine,
> no key code, no activation. I'm guessing that something was checked in
> the hardware that allowed installation on *only* that laptop?
>
> The restore disk that came with my EeePC 1000HW also requires no key
> code, no activation, perhaps same reason.
>
> However my latest EeePC 1015PE (W7) came with no restore disk, They
> make you make your own on a DVD. And like my old EeePC 2G Surf there
> is a hidden recovery partition for a factory reset.

Hi AJL! I have Gateway restore discs, but I was curious about these 
restore discs from www.restoredisks.com. As Bill stated it had taken him 
7 hours to install. These are not from the manufacture, so they are not 
the same. Most of them sell for $26.99 I believe. Although they really 
appear to do a very good job to get your computer back to a factory state.

Another thing unusual about these www.restoredisks.com discs is they 
appear to also include the Recovery Console. Which most branded OEM 
Windows discs do not. Almost always non-branded and retail versions of 
Windows are the only ones that include this. Although Dell OEM discs 
usually do.

P.S. Did you see the post from Cass_2000 yet? Maybe you can help them.

From: "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Webcam on PMT!
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:31:07 -0500
Message-ID: <itq6eu$866$1@dont-email.me>
References: <Cass_2000.4vi6gd@no.email.invalid> 
<iti8v6$o15$1@dont-email.me> <Cass_2000.4vl2qy@no.email.invalid>

-- 
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3.0
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

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#349

On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:28:36 -0500, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>I have Gateway restore discs, but I was curious about these 
>restore discs from www.restoredisks.com. 
>As Bill stated it had taken him 
>7 hours to install. 

That doesn't sound right. Way too long. Most of my recovery reinstalls
have taken an hour or less IIRC, but that's the factory disk. Course
it took a couple more hours after that to get rid of the (now way
outdated) crapware... ;)

>These are not from the manufacture, so they are not 
>the same. Most of them sell for $26.99 I believe. Although they really 
>appear to do a very good job to get your computer back to a factory state.

I wonder how they keep you from installing the OS on other computers.
MS probably wouldn't like it if you could. I haven't checked OEM
recovery disks recently but I think my HP recovery disk was in that
price range, but that was a few years ago.
>
>Another thing unusual about these www.restoredisks.com discs is they 
>appear to also include the Recovery Console. Which most branded OEM 
>Windows discs do not. Almost always non-branded and retail versions of 
>Windows are the only ones that include this. Although Dell OEM discs 
>usually do.

Interesting. I remember something like that on one of my recovery
disks. I used it to fix the MBR after I did away with a dual boot
Linux/Windows installation.
>
>P.S. Did you see the post from Cass_2000 yet? Maybe you can help them.

No I missed it. Was it recently? I kind of drifted away when the flame
wars were going on...

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#352

In article <c87q07lc3p6b1p9nojuu3drf4npfrbp0rk@4ax.com>,
AJL  <1245nomail@none.com> wrote:
>
>I wonder how they keep you from installing the OS on other computers.

	Check a memory location on the CMOS chip.  

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#358

On 6/30/2011 8:21 PM, AJL wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:28:36 -0500, BillW50<BillW50@aol.kom>  wrote:
>
>> I have Gateway restore discs, but I was curious about these
>> restore discs from www.restoredisks.com.
>> As Bill stated it had taken him
>> 7 hours to install.
>
> That doesn't sound right. Way too long. Most of my recovery reinstalls
> have taken an hour or less IIRC, but that's the factory disk. Course
> it took a couple more hours after that to get rid of the (now way
> outdated) crapware... ;)

Yeah that is why I got curious and purchase a restore disc from them as 
well. I wanted to see why it had taken so long for the other Bill. 
Although mine I got only had taken about 35 minutes to install. I also 
don't know why this place didn't slipstream the SATA driver into it. But 
I can burn another copy that does.

>> These are not from the manufacture, so they are not
>> the same. Most of them sell for $26.99 I believe. Although they really
>> appear to do a very good job to get your computer back to a factory state.
>
> I wonder how they keep you from installing the OS on other computers.
> MS probably wouldn't like it if you could. I haven't checked OEM
> recovery disks recently but I think my HP recovery disk was in that
> price range, but that was a few years ago.

It depends on the manufacture. Like they have said in the past, that 
most older Dell OEM discs will install on anything. I have never tried 
Gateway restore discs. but I suspect they don't care what machine you 
are installing them on either.

Although other manufactures and newer Dell and Gateway discs, check the 
motherboard (usually just checking the BIOS) to make sure it is being 
installed on the machine it is licensed for.

>> Another thing unusual about these www.restoredisks.com discs is they
>> appear to also include the Recovery Console. Which most branded OEM
>> Windows discs do not. Almost always non-branded and retail versions of
>> Windows are the only ones that include this. Although Dell OEM discs
>> usually do.
>
> Interesting. I remember something like that on one of my recovery
> disks. I used it to fix the MBR after I did away with a dual boot
> Linux/Windows installation.
>>
>> P.S. Did you see the post from Cass_2000 yet? Maybe you can help them.
>
> No I missed it. Was it recently? I kind of drifted away when the flame
> wars were going on...

Yeah about a week ago. I repost it after this one. I think you have the 
same notebook as they do. Their webcam doesn't function and I don't know 
what that BIOS settings looks like on that machine.

-- 
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3.0
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

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#348

On 6/30/2011 10:50 AM, BillW50 wrote:
> On 6/23/2011 10:07 PM, Bill wrote:
>> On 6/11/2011 8:43 AM, BillW50 wrote:
>>
>>
>>> This place wants $26.99 (free shipping) for a HP dv6000 recovery disc.
>>
>>> http://www.restoredisks.com
>>
>> The restore disks from this placed arrived today. 3 CD's. It took
>> almost 7 hours to load everything but the look and feel is just as
>> it was when I bought the machine new. The long load time was
>> mostly the machine sitting there quietly and doing stuff without
>> intervention. It announced the time it would take and kept ticking
>> down the seconds as it went.
>>
>> I'll have to overcome the built-in Microsoft Office suite that
>> Microsoft installs with the hope that the machine owner will buy
>> it. Other than that minor nuisance I'm happy to get my laptop
>> back as it was.
>>
>> Thanks for the pointers.
>>
>> Bill
>
> Hi Bill! I got curious about 7 hours to install. So I ordered a recovery
> disc for this laptop just to check it out. And I got three CDs as well.
> And I threw in one of my spare hard drives and went to install. And here
> it only had taken about 35 minutes to install (which is about normal for
> XP). And I didn't need to use the key code to install, did you? Although
> I do have 30 days to activate.

No key code was asked for, nor was there anything anywhere about 30
days to activate. It just came up. Of course they had asked me for
all the information that was onm the labels on the bottom and I sent
it all except for the activation code and they knew that I have a
COA label and a product key.

> Now I am thinking for yours to take 7 hours, well your CD/DVD drive can
> be flaky and it could take that long. So that is just one suggestion on
> what it could be.

Ubuntu took less than an hour. And don't forget that XP announced up
front that the install time was ~7 hours. If it were a flakey CD drive
it couldn't have known what the time would be.

> This Gateway restore discs from restoredisks didn't forced me to install
> all of the extra software on the machine. As I could pick from a list
> which ones I wanted to install.

I wasn't asked asked anything. They asked for the numbers off the
bottom of the machine and told me that my restore disk version was
configurable and that what they would deliver would be configured for
my machine. That appears to be true since it looked just like it
did when I took it out of the box in 2006.

> One thing that was sort of disappointing for me with this restore disc
> is that they didn't slipstream the SATA driver into the CD. And without
> the driver, you need the drivers on a floppy disc and use the F6 option
> during the install. Pain in the butt for most people I would assume.
> Since most doesn't have floppy drives or floppy disks either for that
> matter.

A USB floppy came from the factory in a separate box for $50.01 and a
rebate card for $50 that I sent in promptly. I like it so well that I
bought a spare later on eBay, and eventually a USB CD drive too.

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#353

In article <iuiu9k$3pu$1@dont-email.me>, Bill  <llib@vacant.void.com> wrote:
>
>Ubuntu took less than an hour. And don't forget that XP announced up
>front that the install time was ~7 hours. If it were a flakey CD drive
>it couldn't have known what the time would be.

	Not necessarily.  Linux driver may handle read/write errors differently
(or even assume success!), or the particular location that's bad on the drive 
may not have been accessed by the linux install.

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#357

On 6/30/2011 5:45 PM, Bill wrote:
> On 6/30/2011 10:50 AM, BillW50 wrote:
>> On 6/23/2011 10:07 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> On 6/11/2011 8:43 AM, BillW50 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> This place wants $26.99 (free shipping) for a HP dv6000 recovery disc.
>>>
>>>> http://www.restoredisks.com
>>>
>>> The restore disks from this placed arrived today. 3 CD's. It took
>>> almost 7 hours to load everything but the look and feel is just as
>>> it was when I bought the machine new. The long load time was
>>> mostly the machine sitting there quietly and doing stuff without
>>> intervention. It announced the time it would take and kept ticking
>>> down the seconds as it went.
>>>
>>> I'll have to overcome the built-in Microsoft Office suite that
>>> Microsoft installs with the hope that the machine owner will buy
>>> it. Other than that minor nuisance I'm happy to get my laptop
>>> back as it was.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the pointers.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> Hi Bill! I got curious about 7 hours to install. So I ordered a recovery
>> disc for this laptop just to check it out. And I got three CDs as well.
>> And I threw in one of my spare hard drives and went to install. And here
>> it only had taken about 35 minutes to install (which is about normal for
>> XP). And I didn't need to use the key code to install, did you? Although
>> I do have 30 days to activate.
>
> No key code was asked for, nor was there anything anywhere about 30
> days to activate. It just came up. Of course they had asked me for
> all the information that was onm the labels on the bottom and I sent
> it all except for the activation code and they knew that I have a
> COA label and a product key.

The one I bought from restoredisks.com never asked for anything on the 
COA label.

>> Now I am thinking for yours to take 7 hours, well your CD/DVD drive can
>> be flaky and it could take that long. So that is just one suggestion on
>> what it could be.
>
> Ubuntu took less than an hour. And don't forget that XP announced up
> front that the install time was ~7 hours. If it were a flakey CD drive
> it couldn't have known what the time would be.

Interesting. There can be lots of reasons for this. One possibility is 
your restore disc booted DOS first. And that would take about that long 
to install.

Another is many BIOS you can select different disk modes (PIO and DMA). 
If you have one of the PIO modes selected, it will install Windows XP 
much slower than it could. And Linux could be ignoring what the BIOS 
disk mode is set too.

>> This Gateway restore discs from restoredisks didn't forced me to install
>> all of the extra software on the machine. As I could pick from a list
>> which ones I wanted to install.
>
> I wasn't asked asked anything. They asked for the numbers off the
> bottom of the machine and told me that my restore disk version was
> configurable and that what they would deliver would be configured for
> my machine. That appears to be true since it looked just like it
> did when I took it out of the box in 2006.

No doubt. Although I got curious and I already have the original restore 
discs for this machine. So I wanted to see if these were actually the 
same or not. The ones I got are not a clone of the original. But I have 
to admit, the end result does look and feel like it did in the factory 
state. Although this one doesn't state Gateway anymore in the System 
Properties (General tab).

>> One thing that was sort of disappointing for me with this restore disc
>> is that they didn't slipstream the SATA driver into the CD. And without
>> the driver, you need the drivers on a floppy disc and use the F6 option
>> during the install. Pain in the butt for most people I would assume.
>> Since most doesn't have floppy drives or floppy disks either for that
>> matter.
>
> A USB floppy came from the factory in a separate box for $50.01 and a
> rebate card for $50 that I sent in promptly. I like it so well that I
> bought a spare later on eBay, and eventually a USB CD drive too.

Oh nice.

-- 
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3.0
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

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#350

>One thing that was sort of disappointing for me with this restore disc
is that they didn't slipstream the SATA driver into the CD. And
without
the driver, you need the drivers on a floppy disc and use the F6
option
during the install. Pain in the butt for most people I would assume.
Since most doesn't have floppy drives or floppy disks either for that
matter.

When I needed SATA drivers for a Dell laptop I used nLite and an old
Dell XP CD. It worked like a charm and never asked for COA or anything.

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#351

In article <iui606$mfe$1@dont-email.me>, BillW50  <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>Now I am thinking for yours to take 7 hours, well your CD/DVD drive can 
>be flaky and it could take that long. So that is just one suggestion on 
>what it could be.

	7 hour install means lots of retries on I/O, most likely, bad cd 
drive or bad hard drive, or bad media.

	Check event log for errors.

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#354

On 7/1/2011 6:54 PM, the wharf rat wrote:
> In article<iui606$mfe$1@dont-email.me>, BillW50<BillW50@aol.kom>  wrote:
>>
>> Now I am thinking for yours to take 7 hours, well your CD/DVD drive can
>> be flaky and it could take that long. So that is just one suggestion on
>> what it could be.
>
> 	7 hour install means lots of retries on I/O, most likely, bad cd
> drive or bad hard drive, or bad media.
>
> 	Check event log for errors.
>

What everyone seems to be missing is that the install predicted a
7 hour install, and that's about what it took.

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#355

In article <iulntt$8og$1@dont-email.me>, Bill  <llib@vacant.void.com> wrote:
>
>What everyone seems to be missing is that the install predicted a
>7 hour install, and that's about what it took.


	Oh.  Well, never mind.

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#356

On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 19:14:48 -0500, Bill <llib@vacant.void.com> wrote:

>What everyone seems to be missing is that the install predicted a
>7 hour install, and that's about what it took.

Don't know about recovery disks, but when transferring files the OS
software calculates the time from the data rate on the hardware being
used. The best example I can think of is my flash drives and SD cards.
They are very different in speed. When I load the same very large file
on each, one media can take very much longer than the other to load.
Yet the OS seems to predict pretty closely the correct time in each
case.

Is it possible that because of some hardware problem, like a poor
reading drive with multiple retrys, that the OS takes the resulting
slower data rate into consideration when predicting the 7 hours?

Just a guess because I really doubt that any OS installation would
ever take 7 hours. Course the recovery disk installs the OS + original
software but still IMO 1 hour max. And for the recovery disks I have
used over the years IIRC a lot less...

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#262

On 6/11/2011 7:35 AM, Bill wrote:

> Thanks for your help. Looks like I have to buy a recovery disk from an
> alternate source.

  What specific model are you running?  My DV6000 ?(DV6308) runs Windows 
7 beautifully.  Everything works on mine, although I did have to get 
updated drivers for the card reader.

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#576

responding to
http://www.1-script.com/forums/HP-laptop-dv6000-OS-article53888--25.htm 
markfinn wrote:

HP laptop dv6000 OS is Slick, failing design; appropriate processor
performance; congenital Webcam; two headphone jacks. I like the HP
Pavilion dv6000's adorable architecture and multimedia features.

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