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| First post | 2011-05-20 17:37 -0700 |
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how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2011-05-20 17:37 -0700
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help "ED" <xxagon@hotmail.com> - 2011-05-20 21:23 -0400
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2011-05-20 18:39 -0700
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help Bob Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2011-05-21 05:18 -0700
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2011-06-21 16:30 -0700
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2011-06-21 16:33 -0700
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2011-06-21 17:20 -0700
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg) - 2011-06-22 00:23 +0000
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg) - 2011-06-22 00:37 +0000
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2011-06-21 23:05 -0400
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2011-06-22 14:58 -0700
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2011-06-22 18:40 -0700
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-06-25 04:41 -0500
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2011-06-22 09:54 +0100
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2011-06-22 15:32 -0500
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2011-06-22 14:48 -0700
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2011-06-22 22:54 +0100
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2011-06-22 15:02 -0700
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help Andy <nospam@> - 2011-06-22 19:06 +1000
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2011-06-22 18:39 +0000
Re: how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help Dominique <me@domain.net> - 2011-06-23 21:55 +0000
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| From | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
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| Date | 2011-05-20 17:37 -0700 |
| Subject | how to connect PC Card Modem to laptop - please help |
| Message-ID | <ir71jb$3ma$1@dont-email.me> |
Operating System: Windows XP PC Card Modem: Psion Gold Card Global 56k + Fax My old laptop had a couple of PC Card slots, one of which was used for a PC Card Modem. Now, I am interested in connecting this PC Card Modem to my new Windows XP laptop, which does not have PC Card slots. So, I am looking for a good PC Card Reader. Any suggestions? Or, is there a better approach?
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| From | "ED" <xxagon@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-05-20 21:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ir746m$gq2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #220 |
"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message news:ir71jb$3ma$1@dont-email.me... > Operating System: Windows XP > PC Card Modem: Psion Gold Card Global 56k + Fax > > My old laptop had a couple of PC Card slots, > one of which was used for a PC Card Modem. > Now, I am interested in connecting this PC Card Modem to > my new Windows XP laptop, which does not have PC Card slots. > So, I am looking for a good PC Card Reader. Any suggestions? > Or, is there a better approach? > One of the following should suit your purpose: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=usb+modem+56k
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| From | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
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| Date | 2011-05-20 18:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ir7547$l4l$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #221 |
"ED" <xxagon@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ir746m$gq2$1@dont-email.me... > > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message > news:ir71jb$3ma$1@dont-email.me... > > Operating System: Windows XP > > PC Card Modem: Psion Gold Card Global 56k + Fax > > > > My old laptop had a couple of PC Card slots, > > one of which was used for a PC Card Modem. > > Now, I am interested in connecting this PC Card Modem to > > my new Windows XP laptop, which does not have PC Card slots. > > So, I am looking for a good PC Card Reader. Any suggestions? > > Or, is there a better approach? > > > > One of the following should suit your purpose: > http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH &Description=usb+modem+56k > Thanks!! Unless I hear otherwise, I guess I'll try the following ... Rosewill RNX-56USB Conexant Hardware Based 56Kbps USB (Plug & Play) V.92 Data/Fax/TAM Modem
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| From | Bob Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-05-21 05:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f52773d0-b841-4dde-9a7d-7eea7c798dfb@b42g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #222 |
On May 20, 8:39 pm, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote: > "ED" <xxa...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:ir746m$gq2$1@dont-email.me... > > > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message > >news:ir71jb$3ma$1@dont-email.me... > > > Operating System: Windows XP > > > PC Card Modem: Psion Gold Card Global 56k + Fax > > > > My old laptop had a couple of PC Card slots, > > > one of which was used for a PC Card Modem. > > > Now, I am interested in connecting this PC Card Modem to > > > my new Windows XP laptop, which does not have PC Card slots. > > > So, I am looking for a good PC Card Reader. Any suggestions? > > > Or, is there a better approach? > > > One of the following should suit your purpose: > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Orde... > &Description=usb+modem+56k > > > > Thanks!! > > Unless I hear otherwise, I guess I'll try the following ... > Rosewill RNX-56USB Conexant Hardware Based 56Kbps USB (Plug & Play) V.92 > Data/Fax/TAM Modem Very often Rosewill slaps their name on a generic product. Look at this, it has mixed reviews. http://www.meritline.com/56k-usb-external-fax-modem---p-37044.aspx I have bought from Meritline and put them at 3 out of 5 stars.
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| From | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
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| Date | 2011-06-21 16:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <itr9ig$8ki$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #222 |
"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message news:ir7547$l4l$1@dont-email.me... > > "ED" <xxagon@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ir746m$gq2$1@dont-email.me... > > > > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message > > news:ir71jb$3ma$1@dont-email.me... > > > Operating System: Windows XP > > > PC Card Modem: Psion Gold Card Global 56k + Fax > > > > > > My old laptop had a couple of PC Card slots, > > > one of which was used for a PC Card Modem. > > > Now, I am interested in connecting this PC Card Modem to > > > my new Windows XP laptop, which does not have PC Card slots. > > > So, I am looking for a good PC Card Reader. Any suggestions? > > > Or, is there a better approach? > > > > > > > One of the following should suit your purpose: > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH > &Description=usb+modem+56k > > > > Thanks!! > > Unless I hear otherwise, I guess I'll try the following ... > Rosewill RNX-56USB Conexant Hardware Based 56Kbps USB (Plug & Play) V.92 > Data/Fax/TAM Modem > It looks like I may need a PCMCIA USB adapter after all in order to salvage my PC Card Fax Modem (which works with DSL) after all. The problem is that many fax modems will not work with DSL. And, Rosewill Tech Support just confirmed this. Anyone with DSL using a 56k fax modem to send fax? If so, what's the make/model of your 56k fax modem?
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| From | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
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| Date | 2011-06-21 16:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <itr9tn$ak9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #312 |
"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message news:itr9ig$8ki$1@dont-email.me... > > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message news:ir7547$l4l$1@dont-email.me... > > > > "ED" <xxagon@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ir746m$gq2$1@dont-email.me... > > > > > > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message > > > news:ir71jb$3ma$1@dont-email.me... > > > > Operating System: Windows XP > > > > PC Card Modem: Psion Gold Card Global 56k + Fax > > > > > > > > My old laptop had a couple of PC Card slots, > > > > one of which was used for a PC Card Modem. > > > > Now, I am interested in connecting this PC Card Modem to > > > > my new Windows XP laptop, which does not have PC Card slots. > > > > So, I am looking for a good PC Card Reader. Any suggestions? > > > > Or, is there a better approach? > > > > > > > > > > One of the following should suit your purpose: > > > > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH > > &Description=usb+modem+56k > > > > > > > Thanks!! > > > > Unless I hear otherwise, I guess I'll try the following ... > > Rosewill RNX-56USB Conexant Hardware Based 56Kbps USB (Plug & Play) V.92 > > Data/Fax/TAM Modem > > > > It looks like I may need a PCMCIA USB adapter after all in order to > salvage my PC Card Fax Modem (which works with DSL) after all. > The problem is that many fax modems will not work with DSL. > And, Rosewill Tech Support just confirmed this. > > Anyone with DSL using a 56k fax modem to send fax? If so, > what's the make/model of your 56k fax modem? > Or, another option would be to find a PCMCIA USB adapter for my existing PC Card Fax Modem. I'm finding both options to be difficult to find.
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| From | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
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| Date | 2011-06-21 17:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <itrcic$p0u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #313 |
"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message news:itr9tn$ak9$1@dont-email.me... > > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message news:itr9ig$8ki$1@dont-email.me... > > > > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message > news:ir7547$l4l$1@dont-email.me... > > > > > > "ED" <xxagon@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:ir746m$gq2$1@dont-email.me... > > > > > > > > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message > > > > news:ir71jb$3ma$1@dont-email.me... > > > > > Operating System: Windows XP > > > > > PC Card Modem: Psion Gold Card Global 56k + Fax > > > > > > > > > > My old laptop had a couple of PC Card slots, > > > > > one of which was used for a PC Card Modem. > > > > > Now, I am interested in connecting this PC Card Modem to > > > > > my new Windows XP laptop, which does not have PC Card slots. > > > > > So, I am looking for a good PC Card Reader. Any suggestions? > > > > > Or, is there a better approach? > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the following should suit your purpose: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH > > > &Description=usb+modem+56k > > > > > > > > > > Thanks!! > > > > > > Unless I hear otherwise, I guess I'll try the following ... > > > Rosewill RNX-56USB Conexant Hardware Based 56Kbps USB (Plug & Play) V.92 > > > Data/Fax/TAM Modem > > > > > > > It looks like I may need a PCMCIA USB adapter after all in order to > > salvage my PC Card Fax Modem (which works with DSL) after all. > > The problem is that many fax modems will not work with DSL. > > And, Rosewill Tech Support just confirmed this. > > > > Anyone with DSL using a 56k fax modem to send fax? If so, > > what's the make/model of your 56k fax modem? > > > > Or, another option would be to find a PCMCIA USB adapter for > my existing PC Card Fax Modem. I'm finding both options to be > difficult to find. > Anyone have experience with the following ... http://www.amtron.com/reader/u132.htm
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| From | richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg) |
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| Date | 2011-06-22 00:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <itrcmr$759$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #313 |
In article <itr9tn$ak9$1@dont-email.me>, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:
[...]
>Or, another option would be to find a PCMCIA USB adapter for
>my existing PC Card Fax Modem. I'm finding both options to be
>difficult to find.
If you have a PCMCIA slot, just put a fax modem into it and go. I
searched Google with:
PCMCIA +"fax modem"
and one of the results was:
http://www.amazon.com/Dynex-DX-M200-V-92-PCMCIA-Modem/dp/B0009LJNNA
for $46. Lots of other results that I didn't check. On that page is a
link to "3 new from 24.99".
--
Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097
Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself & my dogs only. VM'er since CP-67
Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero & Casey (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L
Canines: Red & Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L
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| From | richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg) |
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| Date | 2011-06-22 00:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <itrdh2$j7b$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #312 |
In article <itr9ig$8ki$1@dont-email.me>, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote: [...] >Anyone with DSL using a 56k fax modem to send fax? If so, >what's the make/model of your 56k fax modem? I do it regularly from my desktop with a USR something-or-other faxmodem. The fax doesn't go out on the "DSL". It makes a voice band call to the other fax. My being connected to the internet at the same time is independant of the fax. My laptop has a built in fax modem. Winfax is installed and recognizes it as a fax modem, although I use the laptop so seldom that I have never needed to send a fax while using it. There are services that you can email a file to and it gets sent by fax to a number you specify. I have never used these services. This way the fax goes "over the DSL", but in this case, no fax modem is needed. It does cost for these services although the probably have a free trial. -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself & my dogs only. VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero & Casey (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red & Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.com> |
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| Date | 2011-06-21 23:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <itrm6l$9v3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #312 |
Adam wrote:
> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message news:ir7547$l4l$1@dont-email.me...
>> "ED" <xxagon@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ir746m$gq2$1@dont-email.me...
>>> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ir71jb$3ma$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> Operating System: Windows XP
>>>> PC Card Modem: Psion Gold Card Global 56k + Fax
>>>>
>>>> My old laptop had a couple of PC Card slots,
>>>> one of which was used for a PC Card Modem.
>>>> Now, I am interested in connecting this PC Card Modem to
>>>> my new Windows XP laptop, which does not have PC Card slots.
>>>> So, I am looking for a good PC Card Reader. Any suggestions?
>>>> Or, is there a better approach?
>>>>
>>> One of the following should suit your purpose:
>>>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH
>> &Description=usb+modem+56k
>> Thanks!!
>>
>> Unless I hear otherwise, I guess I'll try the following ...
>> Rosewill RNX-56USB Conexant Hardware Based 56Kbps USB (Plug & Play) V.92
>> Data/Fax/TAM Modem
>>
>
> It looks like I may need a PCMCIA USB adapter after all in order to
> salvage my PC Card Fax Modem (which works with DSL) after all.
> The problem is that many fax modems will not work with DSL.
> And, Rosewill Tech Support just confirmed this.
>
> Anyone with DSL using a 56k fax modem to send fax? If so,
> what's the make/model of your 56k fax modem?
[Note - copy and paste the below into Notepad or equivalent,
and use Courier font, if you want to view the diagrams as I
drew them.]
I think before running off to the store, I'd slow down a bit first.
There are many kinds of phone lines, but some are obscure enough
we don't have to worry about them.
Two common situations now, involve "ordinary POTS" versus VOIP.
The definition of POTS is here - it's the old copper phone
line we had in the 50's, with 4KHz or lower bandwidth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_old_telephone_service
Some telephone companies are eliminating POTS service, in favor of
VOIP solutions. There might not even be a customer premise piece
of equipment doing the VOIP, so the difference might not even be
apparent to the home owner.
We can take my house as an example. I still have POTS, plus they
added ADSL to the line. I don't own a FAX machine, but if I did,
it would work. I can add at least four filters and taps to the
line if I want (I own four filters). Only one analog phone can
go off-hook at a time, so there is only "one line".
28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45
Telco --------------------+---------------+----- ADSL modem ------------ Computer
4KHz baseband | | ethernet
Filter Filter
4KHz or lower 4KHz or lower
| |
analog phone analog FAX
RJ11 connector RJ11 connector
In the previous diagram, I would be running a traditional, clunky,
standalone FAX machine. No computer involvement in the faxing process
in that example.
Now, if I wanted, I could use a FAX modem on the computer, like this.
28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45
Telco --------------------+---------------+----- ADSL modem ------------ Computer
4KHz baseband | | ethernet |
Filter Filter USB FAX
4KHz or lower 4KHz or lower Modem
| | |
analog phone +---------------------------------+
RJ11 connector RJ11 connector
The previous diagram also works, because of the regular, reliable 4KHz
passband.
When the telephone company stops supporting POTS, they use VOIP or
voice over internet protocol. That can involve the ADSL modem. So
only the modem "sees" the phone line, like this. Now, there is
no 4KHz analog content at all. Just the modulation above 28KHz for
ADSL. The ADSL sees the full spectrum, just as before, because there
is no filter in front of the ADSL modem.
28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45
Telco --------------------+---------------+----- ADSL modem ------------ Computer
ethernet
To make it more transparent as to what is happening, now I add VOIP to the picture,
and also include a router for more computers. VOIP is "downstream" of the
modem, and "upstream" of the router. The reason the first implementations
sat upstream of the router, was to make it easier to access all the port
numbers used by VOIP protocols (control path and data path). So this diagram,
compresses that useless wire in the middle of the picture, to make more
room for the other junk.
28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45 RJ45 RJ45
Telco ------------------ ADSL modem ---- VOIP 2 Port Box ---- Router ----- Computer
| RJ11 | RJ11 ----- Computer
| |
(4KHz) (4KHz)
analog analog
phone FAX
Now, again, I can replace that clunky, separate "analog FAX" machine, with
a FAX modem on the computer. I'll run a line from the second computer,
which has a USB FAX or PCMCIA FAX device plugged into it.
28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45
Telco ------------------ ADSL modem ---- VOIP 2 Port Box ---- Router ----- Computer
| RJ11 | RJ11 ----- Computer
| | |
(4KHz) (4KHz) USB FAX
analog | Modem
phone | |
+----------------------------+
RJ11 connector
Now, what you're attempting to do, is run "FAX over VOIP". This is not the same
as running "FAX over 4KHz baseband", as in the first diagram.
And that's what you need to research. What impairment does using VOIP
to *emulate* an analog phone service cause ? You need to be absolutely
certain, you know how your telephone company (or you yourself) have
arranged to make that "phone line" you're using. VOIP is a lot different
than an old POTS copper line.
So it's not really an argument about how sweet a particular
brand of FAX modem happens to be. It's an argument about
whether the phone line is "plain" or "VOIP" type.
In some households, the "VOIP box" is in the pedestal or outside
the house, and the home owner may not even be aware they're on
VOIP. Depending on when you did your setup (like some of
my samples above), you as the home owner may already be
aware you're using VOIP, because you actually own a VOIP
box sitting in the room with you.
Try search terms, such as "FAX over VOIP". One web page,
tries to sell you a different IP protocol to send faxes
(presumably, with a monthly bill). This web page, talks
of dropping the FAX transmission rate, to make it work.
The success or failure, might even depend on delay jitter
in the VOIP service. Who knows...
(site uses a lot of popup crap...)
http://askbobrankin.com/fax_over_voip.html
"The best tip I can offer is to reduce your fax transmission speed to
9600 bps to maximize VoIP fax success rates. The faster one tries to
send a fax, the more likely it is to fail on a VoIP connection."
Now, back to the discussion about which FAX modem is superior
to which other FAX modem :-)
Have fun,
Paul
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| From | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
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| Date | 2011-06-22 14:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ittohs$eop$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #317 |
"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:itrm6l$9v3$1@dont-email.me...
> Adam wrote:
> > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
news:ir7547$l4l$1@dont-email.me...
> >> "ED" <xxagon@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ir746m$gq2$1@dont-email.me...
> >>> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:ir71jb$3ma$1@dont-email.me...
> >>>> Operating System: Windows XP
> >>>> PC Card Modem: Psion Gold Card Global 56k + Fax
> >>>>
> >>>> My old laptop had a couple of PC Card slots,
> >>>> one of which was used for a PC Card Modem.
> >>>> Now, I am interested in connecting this PC Card Modem to
> >>>> my new Windows XP laptop, which does not have PC Card slots.
> >>>> So, I am looking for a good PC Card Reader. Any suggestions?
> >>>> Or, is there a better approach?
> >>>>
> >>> One of the following should suit your purpose:
> >>>
> >
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH
> >> &Description=usb+modem+56k
> >> Thanks!!
> >>
> >> Unless I hear otherwise, I guess I'll try the following ...
> >> Rosewill RNX-56USB Conexant Hardware Based 56Kbps USB (Plug & Play) V.92
> >> Data/Fax/TAM Modem
> >>
> >
> > It looks like I may need a PCMCIA USB adapter after all in order to
> > salvage my PC Card Fax Modem (which works with DSL) after all.
> > The problem is that many fax modems will not work with DSL.
> > And, Rosewill Tech Support just confirmed this.
> >
> > Anyone with DSL using a 56k fax modem to send fax? If so,
> > what's the make/model of your 56k fax modem?
>
> [Note - copy and paste the below into Notepad or equivalent,
> and use Courier font, if you want to view the diagrams as I
> drew them.]
>
> I think before running off to the store, I'd slow down a bit first.
>
> There are many kinds of phone lines, but some are obscure enough
> we don't have to worry about them.
>
> Two common situations now, involve "ordinary POTS" versus VOIP.
>
> The definition of POTS is here - it's the old copper phone
> line we had in the 50's, with 4KHz or lower bandwidth.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_old_telephone_service
>
> Some telephone companies are eliminating POTS service, in favor of
> VOIP solutions. There might not even be a customer premise piece
> of equipment doing the VOIP, so the difference might not even be
> apparent to the home owner.
>
> We can take my house as an example. I still have POTS, plus they
> added ADSL to the line. I don't own a FAX machine, but if I did,
> it would work. I can add at least four filters and taps to the
> line if I want (I own four filters). Only one analog phone can
> go off-hook at a time, so there is only "one line".
>
> 28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45
> Telco --------------------+---------------+----- ADSL modem ------------
Computer
> 4KHz baseband | | ethernet
> Filter Filter
> 4KHz or lower 4KHz or lower
> | |
> analog phone analog FAX
> RJ11 connector RJ11 connector
>
> In the previous diagram, I would be running a traditional, clunky,
> standalone FAX machine. No computer involvement in the faxing process
> in that example.
>
> Now, if I wanted, I could use a FAX modem on the computer, like this.
>
> 28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45
> Telco --------------------+---------------+----- ADSL modem ------------
Computer
> 4KHz baseband | | ethernet
|
> Filter Filter
USB FAX
> 4KHz or lower 4KHz or lower
Modem
> | |
|
> analog phone
+---------------------------------+
> RJ11 connector RJ11 connector
>
> The previous diagram also works, because of the regular, reliable 4KHz
> passband.
>
> When the telephone company stops supporting POTS, they use VOIP or
> voice over internet protocol. That can involve the ADSL modem. So
> only the modem "sees" the phone line, like this. Now, there is
> no 4KHz analog content at all. Just the modulation above 28KHz for
> ADSL. The ADSL sees the full spectrum, just as before, because there
> is no filter in front of the ADSL modem.
>
> 28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45
> Telco --------------------+---------------+----- ADSL modem ------------
Computer
> ethernet
>
> To make it more transparent as to what is happening, now I add VOIP to the
picture,
> and also include a router for more computers. VOIP is "downstream" of the
> modem, and "upstream" of the router. The reason the first implementations
> sat upstream of the router, was to make it easier to access all the port
> numbers used by VOIP protocols (control path and data path). So this diagram,
> compresses that useless wire in the middle of the picture, to make more
> room for the other junk.
>
> 28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45 RJ45 RJ45
> Telco ------------------ ADSL modem ---- VOIP 2 Port Box ----
Router ----- Computer
> | RJ11 |
----- Computer
> | |
> (4KHz) (4KHz)
> analog analog
> phone FAX
>
> Now, again, I can replace that clunky, separate "analog FAX" machine, with
> a FAX modem on the computer. I'll run a line from the second computer,
> which has a USB FAX or PCMCIA FAX device plugged into it.
>
> 28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45
> Telco ------------------ ADSL modem ---- VOIP 2 Port Box ----
Router ----- Computer
> | RJ11 |
----- Computer
> | |
|
> (4KHz) (4KHz)
USB FAX
> analog |
Modem
> phone |
|
>
+----------------------------+
> RJ11 connector
>
> Now, what you're attempting to do, is run "FAX over VOIP". This is not the
same
> as running "FAX over 4KHz baseband", as in the first diagram.
>
> And that's what you need to research. What impairment does using VOIP
> to *emulate* an analog phone service cause ? You need to be absolutely
> certain, you know how your telephone company (or you yourself) have
> arranged to make that "phone line" you're using. VOIP is a lot different
> than an old POTS copper line.
>
> So it's not really an argument about how sweet a particular
> brand of FAX modem happens to be. It's an argument about
> whether the phone line is "plain" or "VOIP" type.
>
> In some households, the "VOIP box" is in the pedestal or outside
> the house, and the home owner may not even be aware they're on
> VOIP. Depending on when you did your setup (like some of
> my samples above), you as the home owner may already be
> aware you're using VOIP, because you actually own a VOIP
> box sitting in the room with you.
>
> Try search terms, such as "FAX over VOIP". One web page,
> tries to sell you a different IP protocol to send faxes
> (presumably, with a monthly bill). This web page, talks
> of dropping the FAX transmission rate, to make it work.
> The success or failure, might even depend on delay jitter
> in the VOIP service. Who knows...
>
> (site uses a lot of popup crap...)
> http://askbobrankin.com/fax_over_voip.html
>
> "The best tip I can offer is to reduce your fax transmission speed to
> 9600 bps to maximize VoIP fax success rates. The faster one tries to
> send a fax, the more likely it is to fail on a VoIP connection."
>
> Now, back to the discussion about which FAX modem is superior
> to which other FAX modem :-)
>
> Have fun,
> Paul
Wow! Excellent info/diagrams. Thanks!
AFAIK, I have POTS. My DSL equipment came with filters.
I don't have a standalone FAX machine. So, the diagram with
the computer connected to the FAX modem is the one for my situation ...
28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45
Telco --------------------+---------------+----- ADSL modem ------------
Computer
4KHz baseband | | ethernet
|
Filter Filter
USB FAX
4KHz or lower 4KHz or lower
Modem
| |
|
analog phone
+---------------------------------+
RJ11 connector RJ11 connector
I'll have to locate and try my US Robotics V.92 External 56K FAX Modem
(USR5686E) again and
make sure that it goes through the filter. Can't remember now.
Getting a compact easy to carry USB FAX modem would be nice also.
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| From | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-06-22 18:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <itu5gs$tmm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #330 |
"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message news:ittohs$eop$1@dont-email.me... > > "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:itrm6l$9v3$1@dont-email.me... > > Adam wrote: > > > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message > news:ir7547$l4l$1@dont-email.me... > > >> "ED" <xxagon@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:ir746m$gq2$1@dont-email.me... > > >>> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message > > >>> news:ir71jb$3ma$1@dont-email.me... > > >>>> Operating System: Windows XP > > >>>> PC Card Modem: Psion Gold Card Global 56k + Fax > > >>>> > > >>>> My old laptop had a couple of PC Card slots, > > >>>> one of which was used for a PC Card Modem. > > >>>> Now, I am interested in connecting this PC Card Modem to > > >>>> my new Windows XP laptop, which does not have PC Card slots. > > >>>> So, I am looking for a good PC Card Reader. Any suggestions? > > >>>> Or, is there a better approach? > > >>>> > > >>> One of the following should suit your purpose: > > >>> > > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH > > >> &Description=usb+modem+56k > > >> Thanks!! > > >> > > >> Unless I hear otherwise, I guess I'll try the following ... > > >> Rosewill RNX-56USB Conexant Hardware Based 56Kbps USB (Plug & Play) V.92 > > >> Data/Fax/TAM Modem > > >> > > > > > > It looks like I may need a PCMCIA USB adapter after all in order to > > > salvage my PC Card Fax Modem (which works with DSL) after all. > > > The problem is that many fax modems will not work with DSL. > > > And, Rosewill Tech Support just confirmed this. > > > > > > Anyone with DSL using a 56k fax modem to send fax? If so, > > > what's the make/model of your 56k fax modem? > > > > [Note - copy and paste the below into Notepad or equivalent, > > and use Courier font, if you want to view the diagrams as I > > drew them.] > > > > I think before running off to the store, I'd slow down a bit first. > > > > There are many kinds of phone lines, but some are obscure enough > > we don't have to worry about them. > > > > Two common situations now, involve "ordinary POTS" versus VOIP. > > > > The definition of POTS is here - it's the old copper phone > > line we had in the 50's, with 4KHz or lower bandwidth. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_old_telephone_service > > > > Some telephone companies are eliminating POTS service, in favor of > > VOIP solutions. There might not even be a customer premise piece > > of equipment doing the VOIP, so the difference might not even be > > apparent to the home owner. > > > > We can take my house as an example. I still have POTS, plus they > > added ADSL to the line. I don't own a FAX machine, but if I did, > > it would work. I can add at least four filters and taps to the > > line if I want (I own four filters). Only one analog phone can > > go off-hook at a time, so there is only "one line". > > > > 28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45 > > Telco --------------------+---------------+----- ADSL modem ------------ > Computer > > 4KHz baseband | | ethernet > > Filter Filter > > 4KHz or lower 4KHz or lower > > | | > > analog phone analog FAX > > RJ11 connector RJ11 connector > > > > In the previous diagram, I would be running a traditional, clunky, > > standalone FAX machine. No computer involvement in the faxing process > > in that example. > > > > Now, if I wanted, I could use a FAX modem on the computer, like this. > > > > 28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45 > > Telco --------------------+---------------+----- ADSL modem ------------ > Computer > > 4KHz baseband | | ethernet > | > > Filter Filter > USB FAX > > 4KHz or lower 4KHz or lower > Modem > > | | > | > > analog phone > +---------------------------------+ > > RJ11 connector RJ11 connector > > > > The previous diagram also works, because of the regular, reliable 4KHz > > passband. > > > > When the telephone company stops supporting POTS, they use VOIP or > > voice over internet protocol. That can involve the ADSL modem. So > > only the modem "sees" the phone line, like this. Now, there is > > no 4KHz analog content at all. Just the modulation above 28KHz for > > ADSL. The ADSL sees the full spectrum, just as before, because there > > is no filter in front of the ADSL modem. > > > > 28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45 > > Telco --------------------+---------------+----- ADSL modem ------------ > Computer > > ethernet > > > > To make it more transparent as to what is happening, now I add VOIP to the > picture, > > and also include a router for more computers. VOIP is "downstream" of the > > modem, and "upstream" of the router. The reason the first implementations > > sat upstream of the router, was to make it easier to access all the port > > numbers used by VOIP protocols (control path and data path). So this diagram, > > compresses that useless wire in the middle of the picture, to make more > > room for the other junk. > > > > 28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45 RJ45 RJ45 > > Telco ------------------ ADSL modem ---- VOIP 2 Port Box ---- > Router ----- Computer > > | RJ11 | > ----- Computer > > | | > > (4KHz) (4KHz) > > analog analog > > phone FAX > > > > Now, again, I can replace that clunky, separate "analog FAX" machine, with > > a FAX modem on the computer. I'll run a line from the second computer, > > which has a USB FAX or PCMCIA FAX device plugged into it. > > > > 28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45 > > Telco ------------------ ADSL modem ---- VOIP 2 Port Box ---- > Router ----- Computer > > | RJ11 | > ----- Computer > > | | > | > > (4KHz) (4KHz) > USB FAX > > analog | > Modem > > phone | > | > > > +----------------------------+ > > RJ11 connector > > > > Now, what you're attempting to do, is run "FAX over VOIP". This is not the > same > > as running "FAX over 4KHz baseband", as in the first diagram. > > > > And that's what you need to research. What impairment does using VOIP > > to *emulate* an analog phone service cause ? You need to be absolutely > > certain, you know how your telephone company (or you yourself) have > > arranged to make that "phone line" you're using. VOIP is a lot different > > than an old POTS copper line. > > > > So it's not really an argument about how sweet a particular > > brand of FAX modem happens to be. It's an argument about > > whether the phone line is "plain" or "VOIP" type. > > > > In some households, the "VOIP box" is in the pedestal or outside > > the house, and the home owner may not even be aware they're on > > VOIP. Depending on when you did your setup (like some of > > my samples above), you as the home owner may already be > > aware you're using VOIP, because you actually own a VOIP > > box sitting in the room with you. > > > > Try search terms, such as "FAX over VOIP". One web page, > > tries to sell you a different IP protocol to send faxes > > (presumably, with a monthly bill). This web page, talks > > of dropping the FAX transmission rate, to make it work. > > The success or failure, might even depend on delay jitter > > in the VOIP service. Who knows... > > > > (site uses a lot of popup crap...) > > http://askbobrankin.com/fax_over_voip.html > > > > "The best tip I can offer is to reduce your fax transmission speed to > > 9600 bps to maximize VoIP fax success rates. The faster one tries to > > send a fax, the more likely it is to fail on a VoIP connection." > > > > Now, back to the discussion about which FAX modem is superior > > to which other FAX modem :-) > > > > Have fun, > > Paul > > > Wow! Excellent info/diagrams. Thanks! > > AFAIK, I have POTS. My DSL equipment came with filters. > I don't have a standalone FAX machine. So, the diagram with > the computer connected to the FAX modem is the one for my situation ... > > 28KHz-1MHz DSL RJ45 > Telco --------------------+---------------+----- ADSL modem ------------ > Computer > 4KHz baseband | | ethernet > | > Filter Filter > USB FAX > 4KHz or lower 4KHz or lower > Modem > | | > | > analog phone > +---------------------------------+ > RJ11 connector RJ11 connector > > I'll have to locate and try my US Robotics V.92 External 56K FAX Modem > (USR5686E) again and > make sure that it goes through the filter. Can't remember now. > Getting a compact easy to carry USB FAX modem would be nice also. > U.S. Robotics 56K FAX EXT is now listed under Device Manager. However, this modem is very flaky. It may be defective. Bought it off craigslist. After installing driver and ControlCenter software, the software was able to successfully detect the hardware only once failing all the other times. The one time that ControlCenter was able to detect, I was able to send one fax out successfully via MightyFAX. Subsequent attempts have failed with ... ControlCenter usually fails to detect saying ... ============================================================== ControlCenter was unable to detect a supported U.S. Robotics product on your system. Please verify that the device is correctly installed in Windows and close any other communications application which is currently using the device. ============================================================== MightyFAX dialog saying ... ============================================================== No Response From Modem We did not receive a modem response from COM1. To verify the communications port, please click on the Find Modem button on the Preferences screen. If you are sure there is a modem on COM1, press CONTINUE to continue, otherwise press OK to stop the fax session. For more information and possible solutions, click the Fax Problem Solver button ============================================================== Time to buy a USB FAX modem. Thanks for all the help!!
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| From | "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-06-25 04:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <iu4afv$gsl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #330 |
In news:ittohs$eop$1@dont-email.me,
Adam wrote:
> I'll have to locate and try my US Robotics V.92 External 56K FAX Modem
> (USR5686E) again and
> make sure that it goes through the filter. Can't remember now.
> Getting a compact easy to carry USB FAX modem would be nice also.
I am kind of lost in thread, so I don't think I have things 100%
correct. But the USR5686E shouldn't have any problems working with
either Windows or Linux. I used to use this modem a lot years ago and I
knew a lot about it. I always thought it was one of the best one out
there by any manufacture.
That other one you mentioned I don't know about. And if you are trying
to that other one working under Linux and can't. I would check to make
sure that modem isn't one of those WinModems. And my knowledge about
WinModems is ancient. But back then Linux will not work with a WinModem.
As they need to use the CPU for its own purposes (to save costs) and
require a special driver which was only available under Windows systems
AFAIK.
--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3
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| From | Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-06-22 09:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <96doujFkhuU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #312 |
On 22/06/2011 00:30, Adam wrote: > > Anyone with DSL using a 56k fax modem to send fax? If so, > what's the make/model of your 56k fax modem? > Yes, I'm using one of these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270566547821 Make and model unknown (generic) but based on a Conexant chipset. It does exactly what it "says on the tin" and works perfectly. My line has ADSL broadband but the modem is, of course, connected to the POTS side of the line via an ADSL splitter/filter. This is in the UK - don't know whether things work the same way elsewhere. No software required - Windows 7 recognises it as a V92 Fax/Modem, and I use the built-in Windows Fax and Scan to send faxes. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.
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| From | BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-06-22 15:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ittjg5$a1t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #320 |
On 6/22/2011 3:54 AM, Roger Mills wrote:
> It does exactly what it "says on the tin" and works perfectly. My line
> has ADSL broadband but the modem is, of course, connected to the POTS
> side of the line via an ADSL splitter/filter. This is in the UK - don't
> know whether things work the same way elsewhere.
Yes it does work the same way elsewhere Roger. ;-)
--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v3.0
Centrino Core2 Duo 2GHz - 1.5GB - Windows 7
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| From | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-06-22 14:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <itto40$c0h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #320 |
"Roger Mills" <watt.tyler@gmail.com> wrote in message news:96doujFkhuU1@mid.individual.net... > On 22/06/2011 00:30, Adam wrote: > > > > > Anyone with DSL using a 56k fax modem to send fax? If so, > > what's the make/model of your 56k fax modem? > > > > Yes, I'm using one of these: > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270566547821 > > Make and model unknown (generic) but based on a Conexant chipset. > > It does exactly what it "says on the tin" and works perfectly. My line > has ADSL broadband but the modem is, of course, connected to the POTS > side of the line via an ADSL splitter/filter. This is in the UK - don't > know whether things work the same way elsewhere. > > No software required - Windows 7 recognises it as a V92 Fax/Modem, and I > use the built-in Windows Fax and Scan to send faxes. > -- > Cheers, > Roger > ____________ > Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom > checked. Thanks, looks good. I emailed the seller regarding total cost to send to USA. Also, still trying to locate an old 56k fax modem to test again.
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| From | Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-06-22 22:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <96f6l1Fo0nU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #328 |
On 22/06/2011 22:48, Adam wrote: > > "Roger Mills"<watt.tyler@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:96doujFkhuU1@mid.individual.net... >> On 22/06/2011 00:30, Adam wrote: >>> >> >>> Anyone with DSL using a 56k fax modem to send fax? If so, >>> what's the make/model of your 56k fax modem? >>> >> >> Yes, I'm using one of these: >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270566547821 >> >> Make and model unknown (generic) but based on a Conexant chipset. >> >> It does exactly what it "says on the tin" and works perfectly. My line >> has ADSL broadband but the modem is, of course, connected to the POTS >> side of the line via an ADSL splitter/filter. This is in the UK - don't >> know whether things work the same way elsewhere. >> >> No software required - Windows 7 recognises it as a V92 Fax/Modem, and I >> use the built-in Windows Fax and Scan to send faxes. > > > Thanks, looks good. I emailed the seller regarding total cost to send to USA. > Also, still trying to locate an old 56k fax modem to test again. > > Why not just look on your local Ebay for a USB fax/modem. There's sure to be someone selling the same thing - or very similar. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.
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| From | "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-06-22 15:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ittosp$h5t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #329 |
"Roger Mills" <watt.tyler@gmail.com> wrote in message news:96f6l1Fo0nU2@mid.individual.net... > On 22/06/2011 22:48, Adam wrote: > > > > "Roger Mills"<watt.tyler@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:96doujFkhuU1@mid.individual.net... > >> On 22/06/2011 00:30, Adam wrote: > >>> > >> > >>> Anyone with DSL using a 56k fax modem to send fax? If so, > >>> what's the make/model of your 56k fax modem? > >>> > >> > >> Yes, I'm using one of these: > >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270566547821 > >> > >> Make and model unknown (generic) but based on a Conexant chipset. > >> > >> It does exactly what it "says on the tin" and works perfectly. My line > >> has ADSL broadband but the modem is, of course, connected to the POTS > >> side of the line via an ADSL splitter/filter. This is in the UK - don't > >> know whether things work the same way elsewhere. > >> > >> No software required - Windows 7 recognises it as a V92 Fax/Modem, and I > >> use the built-in Windows Fax and Scan to send faxes. > > > > > > > Thanks, looks good. I emailed the seller regarding total cost to send to USA. > > Also, still trying to locate an old 56k fax modem to test again. > > > > > > > Why not just look on your local Ebay for a USB fax/modem. There's sure > to be someone selling the same thing - or very similar. > -- > Cheers, > Roger > ____________ > Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom > checked. Good idea. Confidence level goes up with a good recommendation though.
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| From | Andy <nospam@> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-06-22 19:06 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <8un8d8-vn2.ln1@fully.qualified.domain.name> |
| In reply to | #312 |
Adam wrote: > > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message news:ir7547$l4l$1@dont-email.me... >> >> "ED" <xxagon@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ir746m$gq2$1@dont-email.me... >> > >> > "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message >> > news:ir71jb$3ma$1@dont-email.me... >> > > Operating System: Windows XP >> > > PC Card Modem: Psion Gold Card Global 56k + Fax >> > > >> > > My old laptop had a couple of PC Card slots, >> > > one of which was used for a PC Card Modem. >> > > Now, I am interested in connecting this PC Card Modem to >> > > my new Windows XP laptop, which does not have PC Card slots. >> > > So, I am looking for a good PC Card Reader. Any suggestions? >> > > Or, is there a better approach? >> > > >> > >> > One of the following should suit your purpose: >> > >> > http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH >> &Description=usb+modem+56k >> > >> >> Thanks!! >> >> Unless I hear otherwise, I guess I'll try the following ... >> Rosewill RNX-56USB Conexant Hardware Based 56Kbps USB (Plug & Play) V.92 >> Data/Fax/TAM Modem >> > It looks like I may need a PCMCIA USB adapter after all in order to > salvage my PC Card Fax Modem (which works with DSL) after all. > The problem is that many fax modems will not work with DSL. > And, Rosewill Tech Support just confirmed this. > > Anyone with DSL using a 56k fax modem to send fax? If so, > what's the make/model of your 56k fax modem? And the relevance to alt.os.linux.ubuntu is what exactly? There's enough off-topic shit here already, thanks. -- Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
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| From | wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-06-22 18:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ittctn$l11$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #312 |
In article <itr9ig$8ki$1@dont-email.me>, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote: > >Anyone with DSL using a 56k fax modem to send fax? If so, >what's the make/model of your 56k fax modem? > Ummm, why wouldn't this work? Just plug the modem into the POTS jack. The one that says "voice" on your splitter.
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