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Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone

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AndyHancock wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> AndyHancock wrote
>>> Arno <m...@privacy.net> wrote
>>>> Mike Tomlinson <m...@jasper.org.uk> wrote
>>>>> AndyHancock <andymhanc...@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>>> It's not a blind copy of the whole HDD...the target HDD is smaller

>>>>> You'll make things much easier and reduce the chances of an error
>>>>> causing data loss if you clone onto the same size, or larger HDD.

>>>> You can also clone to a larger 3.5" hdd first, reduce size there
>>>> and then clone to the target. But in principle cloning to same
>>>> size or larger is the only reasonable thing to do.

>>> I certainly agree...

>> I dont on that last. And decent cloner will both shrink
>> and expand a partition its cloning, no reason why only
>> ever expanding is the only reasonable thing to do.

>>> however, I took into consideration the following.
>>> I only have one computer and one 500GB auxiliary HDD to serve
>>> as a clone for a 640 GB resident HDD. It is too late to return the
>>> auxiliary HDD. The user data on the resident HDD is a mere tens of
>>> GB's. To get a larger auxiliary HDD, I'd have to move to 750 GB (640
>>> GB seems rare, and doesn't provide much in the way of choice). Most
>>> of the 750 GB will be unused, and it will cost in the order of $240
>>> in my country. I figure it's worthwhile figuring out how to clone
>>> to the smaller HDD as long as I verify the clone.

>> You dont need to verify it with a decent cloner, if it boots fine and if it
>> does the restore ops fine, you can be confident that its cloned properly.

>> The main question mark isnt so much because of the size difference,
>> its more whether the cloner will end up with fangs in its bum because
>> the new drive is a hybrid hard drive/SSD.

>>> I can boot up on the clone, but is there a way to
>>> compare the content of the clone with the original?

>> Compare in what sense ? You can obviously compare
>> the directory listings of the original and the clone, but
>> that doesnt prove anything about the file contents.

>> You cant do a binary compare if the sizes arent the same.

>>> I suspect not, because the moment I start using
>>> the computer, the original starts to change.

>> You can obviously boot a linux live CD and do the comparison that way.

> Lord, I wasn't prepared to embark on yet another
> journey of ramping up in new territory yet.  I haven't
> yet finished cloning all 4 partition in my current problem.

Its not that bad when a basic compare and it booting fine on the new cloned
partition give you a good level of confidence that the clone worked fine.

If the clone didnt work properly, you likely wont be able to boot it.

> Also, the laptop is still running Windows 7 when the cloning
> is being done, so all the files are being altered in real time.

Yes, but if you are just running the cloner, not too much will have been changed.

> I had hoped that a kind of diff'ing utility (without having
> to get smart about Linux CD's) might reveal minimal
> differences that are easily to recognize as inconsequential.

I havent noticed any Win ute that will do that, but I dont bother to do that
sort of compare myself, I just see if it boots and everything works fine.

> I will try booting off the clone once I've researched the safety
> measures against a hazard that exist when both source &
> clone partitions are visible to the machine during a reboot.

All you have to do is physically remove the original
so the first boot of the clone cant see the original.

> The restore ops won't work yet because they
> reside in partitions 3 & 4, which I haven't yet cloned.

> By the way, how would you recognize fangs in the bum?

You can usually feel it and if you feel some pain there, check for bleeding.

Corse that can be a problem if you suffer from haemorrhoids.

Normally it wont boot the clone with the original physically removed from the system. 

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Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 22:57 -0800
  Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 07:18 +1100
    Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 16:17 -0800
      Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-09 13:53 +1100
        Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-11 22:22 -0800
          Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-12 19:34 +1100
            Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-13 21:08 -0800
              Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-14 16:32 +1100
          Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone Mike Tomlinson <mike@jasper.org.uk> - 2012-01-13 11:46 +0000
            Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-13 17:08 +0000
              Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-13 21:14 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-14 16:41 +1100
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-14 21:38 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-15 20:37 +1100
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-15 21:23 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-16 20:14 +1100
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-16 20:57 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-17 19:44 +1100
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-15 20:48 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-16 16:10 +1100
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-16 20:50 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-17 04:26 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-18 00:58 +1100
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-19 15:04 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-20 10:55 +1100
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-19 21:27 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-20 20:12 +1100
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-20 22:50 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-21 20:20 +1100
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-21 22:08 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-22 19:34 +1100
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-23 05:09 +1100
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-22 20:26 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-22 20:46 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-23 20:04 +1100
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-23 18:49 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-24 15:58 +1100
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-23 21:09 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-24 17:30 +1100
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-24 20:39 -0800
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-02-22 15:48 +0000
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-14 18:37 +0000
                Re: Initialize / format 500 GB Momentus XT to make bootable clone AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-14 21:42 -0800

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