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Re: Clipboard

From Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.acorn.programmer
Subject Re: Clipboard
Date 2012-04-13 16:13 +0200
Organization MW Software
Message-ID <05eacd7f52.martin@bach.planiverse.com> (permalink)
References <gemini.m2dzv7006i384009c.alan@alanwrigley.com> <870e797f52.Matthew@sinenomine.freeserve.co.uk> <gemini.m2ev1a002ffsg031g.spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> <d28ac57f52.Matthew@sinenomine.freeserve.co.uk>

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In message <d28ac57f52.Matthew@sinenomine.freeserve.co.uk>
          Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <gemini.m2ev1a002ffsg031g.spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyou
> rself.co.uk>
>  on 13 Apr 2012 Alan Wrigley  wrote:

>>> UniClip could request the data in formats other than text and store all
>>> of them ready to send back.
>>> 
>>> Problems: memory.  And there's no easy way to find out what filetypes are
>>> actually available from the clipboard owner: you just provide your own
>>> preferred list and the owner responds with a single version.  You would
>>> have to send 4096 Message_DataRequest messages to work out which
>>> filetypes were available, if you were doing a thorough job!
>> 
>> Not quite - you can fit 52 filetypes into one Wimp message block.

> Yes, but if you list 52 filetypes in your request the clipboard owner will
> only give you the in one format it prefers out of those 52, a format which
> you and other applications may not understand at all, and you will never know
> it could also have given the data in an open standard format which you
> happened to list further down the same filetype list.  I don't think this
> could ever be made to work properly!

Things are not that bad - in practice, there is little point in 
checking for anything but a handful of standard formats. In 
particular, you are very unlikely to find any application that 
supplies data in more than one non-standard (i.e., "native") format, 
so there is no need to check for any unknown type. The usual situation 
is that either the data is in a standard format already (e.g., Text), 
or it is native (e.g., EasiWriter), plus one or more alternative 
standard formats. So, if you request the native data and then Text, 
Sprite, Draw, HTML and CSV you have covered pretty much all of them.

-- 
Martin
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Martin Wuerthner         MW Software      http://www.mw-software.com/
        RISC OS Software for Design, Printing and Publishing
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Clipboard Alan Wrigley <alan@alanwrigley.com> - 2012-04-12 23:01 +0100
  Re: Clipboard Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-04-12 23:32 +0100
    Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 09:50 +0100
      Re: Clipboard Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-04-13 22:11 +0100
  Re: Clipboard Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-12 23:46 +0100
    Re: Clipboard Fred Graute <fjgraute@casema.nl> - 2012-04-13 02:19 +0200
      Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 10:16 +0100
    Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 10:15 +0100
      Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 10:30 +0100
        Re: Clipboard Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 13:35 +0100
          Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 14:26 +0100
            Re: Clipboard Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-04-13 16:42 +0100
              Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 17:04 +0100
            Re: Clipboard Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 21:43 +0100
              Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 23:21 +0100
      Re: Clipboard Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 13:41 +0100
        Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 14:29 +0100
          Re: Clipboard Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 21:52 +0100
        Re: Clipboard Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-04-13 16:13 +0200
  Re: Clipboard Fred Graute <fjgraute@casema.nl> - 2012-04-13 02:19 +0200
    Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 09:57 +0100
      Re: Clipboard Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-04-13 22:21 +0100
        Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-13 23:06 +0100
          Re: Clipboard Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-04-14 00:33 +0200
            Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-14 09:15 +0100
              Re: Clipboard Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-04-14 16:18 +0200
                Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-14 17:02 +0100
                Re: Clipboard Fred Graute <fjgraute@casema.nl> - 2012-04-15 02:12 +0200
                Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-15 11:46 +0100
                Re: Clipboard "John Williams (News)" <UCEbin@tiscali.co.uk> - 2012-04-15 13:09 +0200
                Re: Clipboard Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-04-14 21:08 +0100
                Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-14 21:22 +0100
          Re: Clipboard Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-04-13 23:54 +0100
            Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-14 09:17 +0100
              Re: Clipboard Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-04-14 10:48 +0100
                Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-14 11:07 +0100
                Re: Clipboard Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-04-14 11:31 +0100
                Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-14 12:14 +0100
                Re: Clipboard Alan Wrigley <spamhater@keepyourfilthyspamtoyourself.co.uk> - 2012-04-14 12:53 +0100
                Re: Clipboard Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-04-14 14:30 +0100
  Re: Clipboard Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2012-04-17 18:46 +0100
  Re: Clipboard Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-20 05:52 +0200
    Re: Clipboard Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-04-20 23:15 +0100
    Re: Clipboard Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2012-04-21 11:01 +0100

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