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Re: Very new programmer

From "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com>
Newsgroups comp.programming
Subject Re: Very new programmer
Date 2012-10-23 18:49 +0100
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"Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> wrote in message 
news:1870835287372366360.485255pjb-informatimago.com@news.individual.net...
> Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> wrote:

> For example, in monster.com, right now there is only a single
>> add for a lisp programmer, while there are thousands of ads asking for 
>> java
>> or C++ programmers.
>
> the question was to learn programming, not to land a job.

But you might want to ask why the language isn't so popular.

>
> the reason is because problems are solved in lisp, so you dont need an 
> army
> to patch them for ever after.

Lisp has a few problems of it's own:

o It doesn't really have a syntax, which can add useful visual structure and 
variety (instead it is written in what looks like intermediate code output 
of a compiler)

o It's quite complex (1000 pages just to describe the (CL) language)

o It's full of ideas which are difficult or impossible to port to another 
language (for example, I quite *like* to separate code and data!)

o And those same features can be used to write an impossible-to-understand 
program more readily than in a conventional language

-- 
Bartc 

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Very new programmer Ian German <ianpgerman@gmail.com> - 2012-10-18 21:06 -0300
  Re: Very new programmer Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-10-19 02:11 +0100
    Re: Very new programmer Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2012-10-18 21:11 -0400
  Re: Very new programmer Pascal J. Bourguignon <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2012-10-19 12:48 +0000
    Re: Very new programmer Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-10-19 16:44 +0100
      Re: Very new programmer Pascal J. Bourguignon <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2012-10-19 16:37 +0000
        Re: Very new programmer Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-10-19 19:04 +0100
          Re: Very new programmer pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2012-10-19 14:38 -0400
          Re: Very new programmer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-10-19 21:56 +0100
          Re: Very new programmer Pascal J. Bourguignon <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2012-10-23 13:20 +0000
            Re: Very new programmer "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-10-23 18:49 +0100
            Re: Very new programmer Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-10-23 19:41 +0100
  Re: Very new programmer Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-10-19 12:12 -0700
  Re: Very new programmer Markus Freund <markus.freund@s2005.tu-chemnitz.de> - 2012-10-19 23:20 +0200
  Re: Very new programmer "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2012-10-19 17:12 -0500

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