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Re: Very new programmer

From Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.programming
Subject Re: Very new programmer
Date 2012-10-23 19:41 +0100
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Pascal J.  Bourguignon wrote:

> Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Pascal J.  Bourguignon wrote:
>> 
>>> Lisp (or scheme) is like Esperanto.  Once you have learned it, you can
>>> learn all the other programming languages very easily.
>> 
>> Just like C, C++, Java, etc...
>> 
>> 
> 
> wrong.

The best thing about baseless assertions is that you are wrong.


>>> Scheme is often taught to programmer beginners in universities.
>> 
>> Just like C, C++, Java, etc...
>> 
> 
> my argument is that it is not done for the best.

I don't understand what you tried to say.  Could you please elaborate on 
that?


>> And you forgot to mention that Lisp dialects are rarely used to develop
>> professional applications, and demand for lisp programmers is virtually
>> inexistent.
> 
> but important programs are written in lisp.  eg air ticket finding is
> written in lisp at google.

That is irrelevant.  If someone writes an "important program" in brainfuck 
it doesn't mean the language is suddenly appropriate as an introductory 
language with real world practical use.


> For example, in monster.com, right now there is only a single
>> add for a lisp programmer, while there are thousands of ads asking for
>> java or C++ programmers.
> 
> the question was to learn programming, not to land a job.

What you failed to understand is that you can have both, and it doesn't make 
any sense to halve your options just because some bloke on usenet had a 
strong opinion on the use of a niche language.


> the reason is because problems are solved in lisp, so you dont need an
> army to patch them for ever after.

Irrelevant.  You can solve problems with any given language.


Rui Maciel

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Very new programmer Ian German <ianpgerman@gmail.com> - 2012-10-18 21:06 -0300
  Re: Very new programmer Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-10-19 02:11 +0100
    Re: Very new programmer Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2012-10-18 21:11 -0400
  Re: Very new programmer Pascal J. Bourguignon <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2012-10-19 12:48 +0000
    Re: Very new programmer Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-10-19 16:44 +0100
      Re: Very new programmer Pascal J. Bourguignon <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2012-10-19 16:37 +0000
        Re: Very new programmer Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-10-19 19:04 +0100
          Re: Very new programmer pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2012-10-19 14:38 -0400
          Re: Very new programmer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-10-19 21:56 +0100
          Re: Very new programmer Pascal J. Bourguignon <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2012-10-23 13:20 +0000
            Re: Very new programmer "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-10-23 18:49 +0100
            Re: Very new programmer Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-10-23 19:41 +0100
  Re: Very new programmer Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-10-19 12:12 -0700
  Re: Very new programmer Markus Freund <markus.freund@s2005.tu-chemnitz.de> - 2012-10-19 23:20 +0200
  Re: Very new programmer "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2012-10-19 17:12 -0500

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