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Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions.

From Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.programming
Subject Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions.
Date 2020-11-17 17:25 +0000
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Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes:

> On 17/11/2020 06:09, K R wrote:
>> Lets look shapes with 3,4,5,6,... angles.
>> They have inside ∞ crosses. Because by dividing areas with 2, we get ∞ points.
>> Lets begin with 2 line connected shapes with 3 and 4 angles.
>> We can continue to N shapes.
>> Now lets start to go around these shapes with connecting shapes.
>> Process can continue forever.
>> So we get number N*∞*∞*∞ points.
>> The biggest integer is ∞, so there are ∞^4 integers.
>
> No, ∞ is not an integer. There are infinitely many integers, and
> therefore there can be no biggest integer.

That makes it sound like it is the infinitude itself that leads to the
conclusion, but there are lots of infinite sets with a largest element.

> This is easily proved by reductio. If we assume there is a biggest
> integer I, we can immediately disprove the assumption by adding 1 to I
> to form a new integer J that is 1 larger than I.

This is what leads to the conclusion: the axioms for the > relation.

> Therefore I is not
> the biggest integer, even if we (quite improperly) assign ∞ to I.

(Oh, and hi.  Haven't seen you around for ages.)

-- 
Ben.

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Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. K R <ownerofachattingportal@gmail.com> - 2020-11-16 22:09 -0800
  Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2020-11-17 13:10 +0000
    Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-11-17 17:25 +0000
      Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2020-11-18 12:41 +0000
        Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-11-18 14:58 +0100
          Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. Khritjan Robam <hrrobam@gmail.com> - 2020-11-18 06:01 -0800
          Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2020-11-18 14:42 +0000
            Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-11-18 16:43 +0100
              Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2020-11-18 18:59 +0000
                Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-11-18 21:39 +0100
    Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-11-17 22:36 +0100
      Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2020-11-18 12:50 +0000
        Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-11-18 15:27 +0100
          Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2020-11-18 14:50 +0000
          Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-11-18 15:44 +0000
            Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-11-18 18:09 +0100
              Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2020-11-18 18:00 +0000
                Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-11-18 21:42 +0100
          Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. Peter <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2020-11-18 17:58 +0000
            Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-11-18 21:46 +0100
    Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-11-19 03:49 +0000
      Re: Theorem: There are at least ∞^4 integers in 2 dimensions. Khrictian Robam <hrrobam@gmail.com> - 2020-11-19 01:12 -0800

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