Re: An advantage of RSA encryption

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From	Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de>
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Subject	Re: An advantage of RSA encryption
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Am 04.08.2015 um 15:43 schrieb Richard Heathfield:
> On 04/08/15 14:24, Mok-Kong Shen wrote:
>>
>> I meant naturally the parentheses in my answer to Kylheku, namely:
>>
>> (Note anyway that in HAC there is given a way to implement a CSPRNG
>> with RSA. So, if a CSPRNG were required to implement RSA, that
>> would lead to a viscious circle.)
>
>
> It isn't even a vicious circle, let alone a viscious circle. The easiest
> way to explain this is to consider two CSPRNGs, X and Y.
>
> X can be used to generate RSA primes, thus making it possible to use RSA.
>
> RSA can be used to implement Y.
>
> I don't see the problem, and I certainly don't see any circles, be they
> vicious, viscious, viscous, or even vicarious.

The problem is: Evidently (unless one wants to argue for argument's
sake) the (common) case is that one doesn't yet have a CSPRNG and
wants to have such a one to generate PRNs for an application. Now
how does one proceed??

M. K. Shen

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An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-01 16:52 +0200
  Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2015-08-01 20:17 +0200
    Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-01 23:04 +0200
      Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-02 04:32 +0200
      Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2015-08-02 19:36 +0200
        Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-02 21:04 +0200
          Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2015-08-03 17:31 +0000
            Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 14:44 +0200
              Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-04 14:01 +0100
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 15:07 +0200
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-04 14:21 +0100
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 15:24 +0200
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-04 14:43 +0100
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 15:49 +0200
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-04 15:56 +0100
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 22:05 +0200
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2015-08-04 15:24 +0000
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 22:10 +0200
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-04 21:42 +0100
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 23:05 +0200
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-04 22:18 +0100
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 23:58 +0200
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:45 -0700
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:55 -0700
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 22:12 -0700
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-08-05 07:58 +0100
                Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:06 -0700
  Re: An advantage of RSA encryption "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 06:50 -0400
    Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-03 18:28 +0200
      Re: An advantage of RSA encryption "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 22:07 -0400
        Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-06 11:01 +0200
  Re: An advantage of RSA encryption Mok-Kong Shen <mok-kong.shen@t-online.de> - 2015-08-04 15:26 +0200

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