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Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping

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Subject Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping
Date 23 Jun 2016 09:11:37 -0400
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In article <nkglq6$p3s$1@dont-email.me>, Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> writes:
> 
> VSI has a choice to make.  Adopt the PC keyboard in OpenVMS software 
> and RTLs and in the documentation, adopt some other keyboard such as 
> the Apple extended wired, or get into the traditional LK keyboard 
> manufacturing business directly or with Nemonix or some other vendor.  
> Or continue to ignore the keyboard difficulties and presume that the 
> VT/LK keyboard interface is an emulator problem, which has been the 
> keyboard strategy for a while.  But those existing LK keyboards are all 
> aging out.  That's even if VSI's statements against plans for OpenVMS 
> workstation support hold, as you'll still need console or iLO or DRAC 
> keyboard access for the baseline configuration and then for server 
> management operations, as OpenVMS can't (yet?) be remotely managed, 
> provisioned and deployed.

   I've asked for this before, and I'll say it again.  VMS needs to have
   keyboard layouts for EDT and DEBUG that are PC friendly.  TPU's
   predefined keyboards should also have that variation.

   But I mean full PC keyboards, with all 3 keypads.  Anyone who wants
   to live without the other keypads can run vi and gdb, for all I care.

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PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-22 04:08 -0500
  Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-22 11:15 +0200
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jim <mckinneyj@saic.com> - 2016-06-22 06:34 -0700
  Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-22 10:12 -0400
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-22 21:05 +0200
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-22 22:06 -0500
  Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-22 16:42 -0400
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-23 01:24 +0200
      Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-22 20:08 -0400
        Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-23 08:48 -0400
          Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-23 09:11 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-24 03:10 -0700
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 17:12 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping hb <end.of@inter.net> - 2016-06-25 13:05 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 06:22 -0700
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-24 21:26 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-25 08:20 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-25 15:06 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-25 10:14 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-25 12:59 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-25 21:36 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-26 02:09 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-26 10:42 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-27 09:28 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-27 10:19 -0400
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-25 12:51 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-25 11:48 +0000
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-06-25 12:08 +0000
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-25 15:07 +0000
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-27 09:25 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-25 14:59 +0000
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-25 21:41 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 13:02 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping hb <end.of@inter.net> - 2016-06-26 17:00 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 08:39 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-26 12:20 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 10:20 -0700
                math.h (Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping) "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-06-26 14:44 -0500
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-26 16:04 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> - 2016-06-26 15:31 -0500
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-26 16:50 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-26 19:09 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 18:21 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-27 10:07 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-27 12:33 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-27 16:06 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-28 05:29 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> - 2016-06-26 11:21 -0500
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 10:09 -0700
                Emacs 21.2, was Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping hb <end.of@inter.net> - 2016-06-28 23:13 +0200
                Re: Emacs 21.2, was Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 10:04 -0700
                Re: Emacs 21.2, was Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-06-29 19:01 +0000
      Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Robert A. Brooks" <FIRST.LAST@vmssoftware.com> - 2016-06-22 23:09 -0400
        Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-23 09:06 +0200
          Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-23 12:48 -0400
        Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-23 08:57 -0400
          Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 09:55 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-23 10:39 -0400
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 12:49 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-24 08:44 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-24 03:11 -0700
  Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-22 20:59 -0700
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-23 00:30 -0500
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-23 00:33 -0500
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-23 00:36 -0500

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