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Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping

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Subject Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping
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Date 2016-06-25 11:48 +0000

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In article <nklnnu$pp3$1@news.albasani.net>, Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> writes:
>Den 2016-06-24 kl. 12:10, skrev lawrencedo99@gmail.com:
>> On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 1:13:04 AM UTC+12, Bob Koehler wrote:
>>
>>> I've asked for this before, and I'll say it again.  VMS needs to have
>>> keyboard layouts for EDT and DEBUG that are PC friendly.
>>
>> EDT is another tool that needs to die.
>>
>> In my RSTS/E days, we used a TECO-based screen editor called VTED (a
>> local adaptation of some code originally from DECUS or somewhere).
>> Unfortunately that was never ported to the VAX. So I gritted my teeth
>> and put up with EDT for whatever far-too-long fraction of my lifetime it
>> was until TPU came along, which was halfway decent in comparison (even
>> with that weird initial (mis)behaviour with search pattern matches).
>>
>> Nowadays of course I use Emacs. Is Emacs available for VMS? That has to
>> be a big improvement to whatever DEC-originated editor you might be
>> using now.
>>
>
>My first and most important requirement on an editor is that it always
>should be available "out-of-the" box no matter what customer site I get
>to. So anything that doesn't come with VMS is out, such as Emacs.
>
>Then, personaly, I never have come around learning TPU, EDT has served
>me well both in the early days on RSX and VMS. Now, I haven't looked
>too closely at this, but it is my impession that EDT is slightly more
>"kind" against VT emulators then TPU is.

$ SET TERMINAL/TYPE=VT100 with most of the emulators and TPU is usable.   
-- 
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker    VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG

I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-22 04:08 -0500
  Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-22 11:15 +0200
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jim <mckinneyj@saic.com> - 2016-06-22 06:34 -0700
  Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-22 10:12 -0400
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-22 21:05 +0200
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-22 22:06 -0500
  Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-22 16:42 -0400
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-23 01:24 +0200
      Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-22 20:08 -0400
        Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-23 08:48 -0400
          Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-23 09:11 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-24 03:10 -0700
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 17:12 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping hb <end.of@inter.net> - 2016-06-25 13:05 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 06:22 -0700
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-24 21:26 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-25 08:20 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-25 15:06 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-25 10:14 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-25 12:59 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-25 21:36 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-26 02:09 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-26 10:42 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-27 09:28 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-27 10:19 -0400
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-25 12:51 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-25 11:48 +0000
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-06-25 12:08 +0000
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-25 15:07 +0000
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-27 09:25 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-25 14:59 +0000
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-25 21:41 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 13:02 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping hb <end.of@inter.net> - 2016-06-26 17:00 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 08:39 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-26 12:20 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 10:20 -0700
                math.h (Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping) "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-06-26 14:44 -0500
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-26 16:04 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> - 2016-06-26 15:31 -0500
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-26 16:50 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-26 19:09 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 18:21 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-27 10:07 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-27 12:33 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-27 16:06 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-28 05:29 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> - 2016-06-26 11:21 -0500
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 10:09 -0700
                Emacs 21.2, was Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping hb <end.of@inter.net> - 2016-06-28 23:13 +0200
                Re: Emacs 21.2, was Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 10:04 -0700
                Re: Emacs 21.2, was Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-06-29 19:01 +0000
      Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Robert A. Brooks" <FIRST.LAST@vmssoftware.com> - 2016-06-22 23:09 -0400
        Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-23 09:06 +0200
          Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-23 12:48 -0400
        Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-23 08:57 -0400
          Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 09:55 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-23 10:39 -0400
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 12:49 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-24 08:44 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-24 03:11 -0700
  Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-22 20:59 -0700
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-23 00:30 -0500
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-23 00:33 -0500
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-23 00:36 -0500

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