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| First post | 2026-10-04 15:38 +0000 |
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AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-04 15:38 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 19:19 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 09:14 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 19:52 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:49 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 15:05 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 16:07 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 00:45 -0400
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 07:51 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 03:29 -0400
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:59 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-08 20:08 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 22:01 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 03:05 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 11:08 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 19:04 +0000
The death penalty (Was: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-09 19:52 +0000
Re: The death penalty (Was: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 01:17 +0000
Re: The death penalty (Was: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-10 09:47 +0100
Re: The death penalty (Was: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 19:05 +0000
Re: The death penalty (Was: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:04 +0100
Re: The death penalty (Was: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 17:21 +0000
Re: The death penalty (Was: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-10 20:12 +0000
Re: The death penalty (Was: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 01:01 -0400
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 23:21 +0200
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 01:22 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 14:14 +0200
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 20:12 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:48 +0200
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-10 02:33 -0400
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-10-10 22:41 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-10 23:05 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 03:45 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 00:40 -0400
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 00:49 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 03:47 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:24 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:26 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:19 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:27 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-09 23:08 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 01:29 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:38 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-10 16:00 -0400
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 00:27 -0400
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 03:35 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 05:23 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 01:32 -0400
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:15 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:15 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:14 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-11 08:23 -0400
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:08 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-10 15:58 -0400
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 03:40 +0000
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-10 15:57 -0400
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:17 +0100
Re: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-07 19:08 +0000
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| From | Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-04 15:38 +0000 |
| Subject | AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd |
| Message-ID | <18db5db26a2692d1$5056$2296832$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> |
Another redundant code monkey is swallowed whole by AI: <https://blog.hartleybrody.com/no-longer-write-code/> It's too bad, however, that he didn't use AI to compose his blog (or maybe he did). The word "cursor" should have been capitalized.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-04 19:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nifn57Foo9pU25@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92839 |
On Sun, 04 Oct 2026 15:38:17 +0000, Leroy H wrote: > https://blog.hartleybrody.com/no-longer-write-code/ https://www.rt.com/news/646702-us-ai-dream-communism/ Russian propaganda or does he raise some interesting points? AI has sucked up every bit of creativity it can find and spits out chunks to people who can't wipe their own ass,
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-05 09:14 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <119vm9u$mtek$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92870 |
On 04/10/2026 20:19, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 04 Oct 2026 15:38:17 +0000, Leroy H wrote: > >> https://blog.hartleybrody.com/no-longer-write-code/ > > https://www.rt.com/news/646702-us-ai-dream-communism/ > > Russian propaganda or does he raise some interesting points? AI has sucked > up every bit of creativity it can find and spits out chunks to people who > can't wipe their own ass, Russian propaganda spins faster than Donald Trump, and he beats a teetotum every time Capitalist USA is more concerned with money than ideology. One of its advantages is its freedom from ideology in its pursuit of naked greed. -- "A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight and understanding". Marshall McLuhan
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-05 19:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <niidfcFoo9pU43@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92915 |
On Mon, 5 Oct 2026 09:14:54 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 04/10/2026 20:19, rbowman wrote: >> On Sun, 04 Oct 2026 15:38:17 +0000, Leroy H wrote: >> >>> https://blog.hartleybrody.com/no-longer-write-code/ >> >> https://www.rt.com/news/646702-us-ai-dream-communism/ >> >> Russian propaganda or does he raise some interesting points? AI has >> sucked up every bit of creativity it can find and spits out chunks to >> people who can't wipe their own ass, > > Russian propaganda spins faster than Donald Trump, and he beats a > teetotum every time > > Capitalist USA is more concerned with money than ideology. > > One of its advantages is its freedom from ideology in its pursuit of > naked greed. Completely irrelevant to the opinion piece but I realize you would never sully your eyeballs with a piece on the RT site. Go back to reading your calming fairy tales in the Telegraph.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-06 08:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11a296t$1n9ag$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92972 |
On 05/10/2026 20:52, rbowman wrote: >> Russian propaganda spins faster than Donald Trump, and he beats a >> teetotum every time >> >> Capitalist USA is more concerned with money than ideology. >> >> One of its advantages is its freedom from ideology in its pursuit of >> naked greed. > Completely irrelevant to the opinion piece but I realize you would never > sully your eyeballs with a piece on the RT site. Go back to reading your > calming fairy tales in the Telegraph. I read enough to realise that its just another Guardian but slightly more directed. There is no reason for either to tell the truth. And they don't. I don't read the Bible either... Nor do I spend a great deal of time reading the telegraph or the Express. As they too only signal what that particular clique wants you to believe They are useful, in that occasionally they highlight some news that is worth researching further. But then do many many of the sites I peruse. Reading listening or watching the media simply tells you what other people want you to be thinking abut or believing. What is actually going on is rather different. I find your phraseology more revealing about yourself than me 'calming fairy tales' is clearly what you prefer. Your problem is that you have chosen to believe one source over another. That marks you out as a person who needs to believe. And thinks others are similar. A sort of Dunning Kruger, but in terms of *emotional* intelligence, probably. I am content with the fact that everybody everywhere is to some extent lying to me, for reasons of profit, ego, or even just plain ignorance. My first job is to try to make sure I am not lying to myself. That's called growing up. -- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as foolish, and by the rulers as useful. (Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-06 15:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nikh27FsfnjU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #93002 |
On Tue, 6 Oct 2026 08:49:49 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Your problem is that you have chosen to believe one source over another. > That marks you out as a person who needs to believe. And thinks others > are similar. Matthew 7:4
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-06 16:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11a32s3$20mv4$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93049 |
On 06/10/2026 16:05, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Oct 2026 08:49:49 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> Your problem is that you have chosen to believe one source over another.
>> That marks you out as a person who needs to believe. And thinks others
>> are similar.
>
> Matthew 7:4
I am disappointed in you.
If you think that refutes, rather than confirms, my statement.
--
"Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and
higher education positively fortifies it."
- Stephen Vizinczey
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-07 00:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <XuucnWjcBafBU1j3nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #93002 |
On 10/6/26 03:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 05/10/2026 20:52, rbowman wrote: >>> Russian propaganda spins faster than Donald Trump, and he beats a >>> teetotum every time >>> >>> Capitalist USA is more concerned with money than ideology. >>> >>> One of its advantages is its freedom from ideology in its pursuit of >>> naked greed. >> Completely irrelevant to the opinion piece but I realize you would never >> sully your eyeballs with a piece on the RT site. Go back to reading your >> calming fairy tales in the Telegraph. > > I read enough to realise that its just another Guardian but slightly > more directed. > > There is no reason for either to tell the truth. > > And they don't. > > I don't read the Bible either... > > Nor do I spend a great deal of time reading the telegraph or the Express. > > As they too only signal what that particular clique wants you to believe > > They are useful, in that occasionally they highlight some news that is > worth researching further. > > But then do many many of the sites I peruse. That has become a MAJOR problem these days. Seems EVERYBODY has become seriously biased in some weird way or another. No Truth anywhere. SO ... only choice ... go through at least a dozen 'news'/related sites - a bunch of countries. What little they DO agree on is probably the truth.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-07 07:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11a4q6d$2k8fk$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93074 |
On 07/10/2026 05:45, c186282 wrote:
> On 10/6/26 03:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 05/10/2026 20:52, rbowman wrote:
>>>> Russian propaganda spins faster than Donald Trump, and he beats a
>>>> teetotum every time
>>>>
>>>> Capitalist USA is more concerned with money than ideology.
>>>>
>>>> One of its advantages is its freedom from ideology in its pursuit of
>>>> naked greed.
>>> Completely irrelevant to the opinion piece but I realize you would never
>>> sully your eyeballs with a piece on the RT site. Go back to reading your
>>> calming fairy tales in the Telegraph.
>>
>> I read enough to realise that its just another Guardian but slightly
>> more directed.
>>
>> There is no reason for either to tell the truth.
>>
>> And they don't.
>>
>> I don't read the Bible either...
>>
>> Nor do I spend a great deal of time reading the telegraph or the Express.
>>
>> As they too only signal what that particular clique wants you to believe
>>
>> They are useful, in that occasionally they highlight some news that is
>> worth researching further.
>>
>> But then do many many of the sites I peruse.
>
> That has become a MAJOR problem these days. Seems
> EVERYBODY has become seriously biased in some weird
> way or another. No Truth anywhere.
>
There never was, but with only a few sources of news, no-one realised it.
> SO ... only choice ... go through at least a dozen
> 'news'/related sites - a bunch of countries. What
> little they DO agree on is probably the truth.
>
Ground News is allegedly useful in this context..does it for you.
--
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have
forgotten your aim."
George Santayana
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-07 03:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <XuucnWPcBadtaVj3nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #93078 |
On 10/7/26 02:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 07/10/2026 05:45, c186282 wrote: >> On 10/6/26 03:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 05/10/2026 20:52, rbowman wrote: >>>>> Russian propaganda spins faster than Donald Trump, and he beats a >>>>> teetotum every time >>>>> >>>>> Capitalist USA is more concerned with money than ideology. >>>>> >>>>> One of its advantages is its freedom from ideology in its pursuit of >>>>> naked greed. >>>> Completely irrelevant to the opinion piece but I realize you would >>>> never >>>> sully your eyeballs with a piece on the RT site. Go back to reading >>>> your >>>> calming fairy tales in the Telegraph. >>> >>> I read enough to realise that its just another Guardian but slightly >>> more directed. >>> >>> There is no reason for either to tell the truth. >>> >>> And they don't. >>> >>> I don't read the Bible either... >>> >>> Nor do I spend a great deal of time reading the telegraph or the >>> Express. >>> >>> As they too only signal what that particular clique wants you to believe >>> >>> They are useful, in that occasionally they highlight some news that >>> is worth researching further. >>> >>> But then do many many of the sites I peruse. >> >> That has become a MAJOR problem these days. Seems >> EVERYBODY has become seriously biased in some weird >> way or another. No Truth anywhere. >> > There never was, but with only a few sources of news, no-one realised it. > >> SO ... only choice ... go through at least a dozen >> 'news'/related sites - a bunch of countries. What >> little they DO agree on is probably the truth. >> > > Ground News is allegedly useful in this context..does it for you. Won't ever trust ANY one site. Manually go through a dozen+ every day, one by one. N.America, EU, Asia, S.America, Africa. See what each thinks is Most Important. Merge. As said, what little they AGREE on is probably as close to Truth as you'll get. Modern media has made the Big Picture almost impossible to find. It's DELIBERATE. Beware.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-07 10:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11a555d$2nipf$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93088 |
On 07/10/2026 08:29, c186282 wrote: > On 10/7/26 02:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 07/10/2026 05:45, c186282 wrote: >>> On 10/6/26 03:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 05/10/2026 20:52, rbowman wrote: >>>>>> Russian propaganda spins faster than Donald Trump, and he beats a >>>>>> teetotum every time >>>>>> >>>>>> Capitalist USA is more concerned with money than ideology. >>>>>> >>>>>> One of its advantages is its freedom from ideology in its pursuit of >>>>>> naked greed. >>>>> Completely irrelevant to the opinion piece but I realize you would >>>>> never >>>>> sully your eyeballs with a piece on the RT site. Go back to reading >>>>> your >>>>> calming fairy tales in the Telegraph. >>>> >>>> I read enough to realise that its just another Guardian but slightly >>>> more directed. >>>> >>>> There is no reason for either to tell the truth. >>>> >>>> And they don't. >>>> >>>> I don't read the Bible either... >>>> >>>> Nor do I spend a great deal of time reading the telegraph or the >>>> Express. >>>> >>>> As they too only signal what that particular clique wants you to >>>> believe >>>> >>>> They are useful, in that occasionally they highlight some news that >>>> is worth researching further. >>>> >>>> But then do many many of the sites I peruse. >>> >>> That has become a MAJOR problem these days. Seems >>> EVERYBODY has become seriously biased in some weird >>> way or another. No Truth anywhere. >>> >> There never was, but with only a few sources of news, no-one realised it. >> >>> SO ... only choice ... go through at least a dozen >>> 'news'/related sites - a bunch of countries. What >>> little they DO agree on is probably the truth. >>> >> >> Ground News is allegedly useful in this context..does it for you. > > Won't ever trust ANY one site. It isn't 'one site' It's a portal to all the *other* sites, with each news item linked to the sites that carry it, with the general political and other biases of the sites clearly stated, so you can see what the commies say, and the MAGA people say - and so on - and compare notes. > > Manually go through a dozen+ every day, one > by one. N.America, EU, Asia, S.America, Africa. > See what each thinks is Most Important. Merge. > > As said, what little they AGREE on is probably > as close to Truth as you'll get. > > Modern media has made the Big Picture almost > impossible to find. It's DELIBERATE. Beware. > As I said, with Ground News it is *allegedly* easier to do what you are doing manually, faster. And if you think its worse than it used to be, that's only because there is more access to alternatives. When I was young, you listened to the BBC and read the Times, or the Financial Times and that was that. Unless you wanted an easier crossword or more sports news. Eventually you realised that these sources had become pretty much PinkoProp™ because the internet gave you access to a whole new level of propaganda from Russia Today, Al Jazeera, half a dozen national news outlets varying from quite far right to Marxism and all points in between. And left you with three choices. 1. Believe the ones that fitted your prejudices (easy and comfortable) and simply call the others propagandas and dismiss them, This is the default option for people who *think* they are intelligent. ...or... 2. Assume as a starting point that all of them were to some extent propaganda, try and see who was behind them and why they wanted to present you with that side of that particular item. Naturally this is far far harder and requires intelligence that very few people have. It is the option for people who really *are* intelligent. ...or... 3. Assume it's all bullshit, pick up a squirrel rifle, and a crate of beer, turn on the country music and concentrate on something you *do* understand. Like women's asses. This is the default for people who are smart enough to know they are dumb, and not be uncomfortable with that fact. Frankly, I am more comfortable with the threes than the ones. You can do without the ones.... -- It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. Mark Twain
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 20:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <KKSxS.2341$RoRb.905@fx21.iad> |
| In reply to | #93103 |
On 2026-10-07, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > Eventually you realised that these sources had become pretty much > PinkoProp™ because the internet gave you access to a whole new level of > propaganda from Russia Today, Al Jazeera, half a dozen national news > outlets varying from quite far right to Marxism and all points in between. > > And left you with three choices. > > 1. Believe the ones that fitted your prejudices (easy and comfortable) > and simply call the others propagandas and dismiss them, This is the > default option for people who *think* they are intelligent. > > ...or... > > 2. Assume as a starting point that all of them were to some extent > propaganda, try and see who was behind them and why they wanted to > present you with that side of that particular item. Naturally this is > far far harder and requires intelligence that very few people have. It > is the option for people who really *are* intelligent. > > ...or... > > 3. Assume it's all bullshit, pick up a squirrel rifle, and a crate of > beer, turn on the country music and concentrate on something you *do* > understand. Like women's asses. > This is the default for people who are smart enough to know they are > dumb, and not be uncomfortable with that fact. 4. Assume it's all futile, pick up an assault rifle, go to the nearest school or public place, and open fire. > Frankly, I am more comfortable with the threes than the ones. You can do > without the ones.... I just wish the fours weren't becoming such a fad... -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-08 22:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11a90b9$73vs$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93197 |
On 08/10/2026 21:08, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-10-07, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> Eventually you realised that these sources had become pretty much >> PinkoProp™ because the internet gave you access to a whole new level of >> propaganda from Russia Today, Al Jazeera, half a dozen national news >> outlets varying from quite far right to Marxism and all points in between. >> >> And left you with three choices. >> >> 1. Believe the ones that fitted your prejudices (easy and comfortable) >> and simply call the others propagandas and dismiss them, This is the >> default option for people who *think* they are intelligent. >> >> ...or... >> >> 2. Assume as a starting point that all of them were to some extent >> propaganda, try and see who was behind them and why they wanted to >> present you with that side of that particular item. Naturally this is >> far far harder and requires intelligence that very few people have. It >> is the option for people who really *are* intelligent. >> >> ...or... >> >> 3. Assume it's all bullshit, pick up a squirrel rifle, and a crate of >> beer, turn on the country music and concentrate on something you *do* >> understand. Like women's asses. >> This is the default for people who are smart enough to know they are >> dumb, and not be uncomfortable with that fact. > > 4. Assume it's all futile, pick up an assault rifle, go to the > nearest school or public place, and open fire. > >> Frankly, I am more comfortable with the threes than the ones. You can do >> without the ones.... > > I just wish the fours weren't becoming such a fad... > Murder is all the rage. Just look at the religion of piss. -- “The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.” Herbert Spencer
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-09 03:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nir3vqFp2dnU15@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #93202 |
On Thu, 8 Oct 2026 22:01:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Murder is all the rage. Just look at the religion of piss. I find it more troubling that modern child rearing practices seems to be kill the little bastards. Even worse is when the jurors say 'Why didn't I think of that?'
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-09 11:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11aaefn$m1ol$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93227 |
On 09/10/2026 04:05, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 8 Oct 2026 22:01:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> Murder is all the rage. Just look at the religion of piss. > > I find it more troubling that modern child rearing practices seems to be > kill the little bastards. Even worse is when the jurors say 'Why didn't I > think of that?' Sssh they will ban zipties if you don't pipe down. Meanwhile they cant even get a lethal injection right. Why not a few mg of fentanyl? -- “it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that you live neither in Joseph Stalin’s Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984.” Vaclav Klaus
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-09 19:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <niss6dF6daqU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #93235 |
On Fri, 9 Oct 2026 11:08:55 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Meanwhile they cant even get a lethal injection right. > Why not a few mg of fentanyl? I've asked that question. Dopers manage to off themselves quite nicely and I'm sure the evidence locker wouldn't miss a gram or two. There have been several botched executions where they finally managed to kill the person but this is the first one to live. The gas chamber, electric chair, and hanging also had unpleasant events leading to their disuse. I don't know if they've ever managed to screw up a firing squad but Hegseth might be up to the task.
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| From | gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) |
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| Date | 2026-10-09 19:52 +0000 |
| Subject | The death penalty (Was: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd) |
| Message-ID | <11abgl7$3g94e$1@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #93251 |
In article <niss6dF6daqU4@mid.individual.net>,
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 9 Oct 2026 11:08:55 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>
>> Meanwhile they cant even get a lethal injection right.
>> Why not a few mg of fentanyl?
>
>I've asked that question. Dopers manage to off themselves quite nicely and
>I'm sure the evidence locker wouldn't miss a gram or two. There have been
>several botched executions where they finally managed to kill the person
>but this is the first one to live.
>
>The gas chamber, electric chair, and hanging also had unpleasant events
>leading to their disuse. I don't know if they've ever managed to screw up
>a firing squad but Hegseth might be up to the task.
Unfortunately, all of the problems with the DP are caused by the fact that
those who are ideologically opposed to it are intent on (and quite
successful at) destroying it from the inside.
The problem with finding the right chemical(s) is caused by the anti-s
making it hard or impossible to source the right ones. I read somewhere
that the problem in Tennessee was specifically a result of not being able
to get the regular stuff, so they had to go with a sort-of-home-brew
solution, with predictable results. The point is that the problem is not a
hard one to solve, unless one's hands are tied behind one's back.
And there are other instances of this same phenomenon, but there is not
time to into them here.
--
"We are in the beginning of a mass extinction, and all you can talk
about is money and fairy tales of eternal economic growth."
- Greta Thunberg -
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-10 01:17 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The death penalty (Was: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd) |
| Message-ID | <niti1vF6daqU12@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #93252 |
On Fri, 9 Oct 2026 19:52:07 -0000 (UTC), Kenny McCormack wrote: > The problem with finding the right chemical(s) is caused by the anti-s > making it hard or impossible to source the right ones. I read somewhere > that the problem in Tennessee was specifically a result of not being > able to get the regular stuff, so they had to go with a > sort-of-home-brew solution, with predictable results. The point is that > the problem is not a hard one to solve, unless one's hands are tied > behind one's back. I recall one of the original drugs had to be dropped because a European manufacturer refused to sell it for execution purposes. The report I read is she had difficult veins and asked the technician to try higher up in her shoulder. It's possible he missed the vein altogether. I can believe that give some of my quality experiences with phlebotomists. It must be a very different experience when you know their end goal is to kill you.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-10 09:47 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: The death penalty (Was: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd) |
| Message-ID | <11acu39$1if1i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #93281 |
On 10/10/2026 02:17, rbowman wrote: > The report I read > is she had difficult veins and asked the technician to try higher up in > her shoulder. It's possible he missed the vein altogether. An incompetent nurse failed 5 times to get a catheter into my vein till her boss took over... I would mention her ethnicity, except the best catheter insertion ever was perfomed by a student nurse from the same (ethnic) background Incompetence has no favourites... -- In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone gets full Marx.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-10 19:05 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The death penalty (Was: AI Swallows Them Up Even Faster Than Systemd) |
| Message-ID | <nivgj1F6daqU18@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #93294 |
On Sat, 10 Oct 2026 09:47:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 10/10/2026 02:17, rbowman wrote: >> The report I read is she had difficult veins and asked the technician >> to try higher up in her shoulder. It's possible he missed the vein >> altogether. > > An incompetent nurse failed 5 times to get a catheter into my vein till > her boss took over... > I would mention her ethnicity, except the best catheter insertion ever > was perfomed by a student nurse from the same (ethnic) background No ethnics were involved but three OR nurses were unsuccessful. The fourth had no problem. When I complimented her she said she had started as a phlebotomist before moving up to the OR. My veins look good but they're shy. I wouldn't make a good junkie.
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