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What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?

Started byc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
First post2026-08-18 01:44 -0400
Last post2026-08-19 22:21 -0400
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  What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400
    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:59 -0400
    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 06:05 +0000
      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-18 08:10 +0000
        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-18 11:33 +0100
        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:16 -0400
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:32 +0000
            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:05 +0100
              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:23 +0000
                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:10 +0000
                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:15 +0100
                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:53 +0000
                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:31 -0300
                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:10 +0100
                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:30 -0300
                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:04 +0000
              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:01 +0000
                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:24 +0100
                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 22:07 +0000
                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 04:02 +0000
                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 06:48 +0000
                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 16:15 +0000
                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-23 21:52 +0000
                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 01:07 +0000
                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 11:15 +0100
                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 19:26 +0000
                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:45 +0100
                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:39 +0000
                                Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-25 06:48 -0700
                                  Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 15:10 +0100
                                    Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-26 18:04 -0700
                                      Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:23 -0400
                                        Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 12:09 +0100
                                          Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:15 -0400
                                            Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 03:21 +0000
                                              Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 02:42 -0400
                                                Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:15 +0100
                                                Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:40 +0000
                                                  Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:37 +0100
                                                    Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:13 +0000
                                                      Re: Power lines "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-29 21:28 +0100
                                                        Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:23 +0100
                                                          Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:47 +0000
                                                      Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:20 +0100
                                                        Re: Power lines "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 13:43 +0200
                                                          Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-30 15:49 +0000
                                                            Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:40 +0000
                                                              Re: Power lines "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:23 +0200
                                                                Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 19:36 +0000
                                                                  Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-31 15:50 +0000
                                                                    Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 02:55 -0400
                                                                      Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 07:41 +0000
                                                                        Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 03:49 -0400
                                                                          Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:17 +0100
                                                                            Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:24 +0000
                                                                            Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 01:33 -0400
                                                                        Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:15 +0100
                                                                          Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 01:32 -0400
                                                                      Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:12 +0100
                                                                        Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 18:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:22 +0100
                                                                            Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 21:06 +0000
                                                                              Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 23:40 +0000
                                                                            Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 23:40 +0000
                                                                        Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 01:28 -0400
                                                                    Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:04 +0100
                                              Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:09 +0100
                                            Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:06 +0100
                                        Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 14:19 +0000
                                          Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 15:25 +0100
                                          Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:24 -0400
                                            Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:18 +0100
                                              Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-28 05:56 -0700
                                                Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 15:33 +0100
                                                  Re: Power lines Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:06 +0000
                                                    Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:30 +0100
                                                Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:51 +0000
                                                  Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:39 +0100
                                                    Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:26 +0000
                                                      Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:25 +0100
                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 01:46 -0400
                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:50 +0100
                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:43 +0000
                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 04:07 -0400
                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 10:54 -0600
                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 19:11 +0100
                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 12:57 -0600
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:55 +0100
                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:25 +0000
                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 00:27 +0100
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:45 -0400
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:02 +0100
                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:13 +0000
                                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:32 +0100
                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 19:38 +0000
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:57 +0100
                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:10 +0000
                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:55 -0400
                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 23:34 -0400
                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-26 04:27 +0000
                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 08:57 +0100
                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-27 06:30 -0700
                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 13:57 +0000
                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:22 -0400
                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:16 +0100
                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:36 +0000
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-28 19:42 +0100
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:28 +0100
                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:04 +0000
                                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:18 +0100
                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:50 +0000
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 18:03 +0100
                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:35 +0000
                                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 00:43 +0100
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 02:21 +0000
                                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 12:33 +0100
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 09:22 +0100
                                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 13:01 +0100
                                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-31 03:00 -0400
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 12:47 +0100
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 18:36 +0000
                                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 02:09 -0400
                                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 07:11 +0000
                                                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 03:47 -0400
                                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:56 +0100
                                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:00 +0000
                                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:11 +0100
                                                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 18:17 +0000
                                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-01 18:19 +0000
                                                                    [OT] Finland, and Russia (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 23:49 +0100
                                                                      Re: [OT] Finland, and Russia (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-02 02:53 +0000
                                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 02:46 -0400
                                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:54 +0100
                                                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:17 +0000
                                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:23 +0100
                                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 21:23 +0200
                                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 21:18 +0000
                                                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 02:00 -0400
                                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:43 +0100
                                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:12 +0000
                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 07:55 +0500
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-30 02:08 -0400
                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:30 +0000
                                                    [OT] Russian Federation, wars (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 10:04 +0100
                                                      Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-30 10:22 +0100
                                                        Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 16:13 +0500
                                                        Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 18:12 +0100
                                                      Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 16:47 +0500
                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 13:58 +0200
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-29 10:11 -0700
                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:20 +0200
                                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 23:06 +0000
                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-30 02:14 -0400
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:35 +0000
                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 19:28 +0200
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-31 02:15 -0400
                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:55 +0100
                                                Salmonella (Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-30 09:28 -0700
                                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 19:27 +0200
                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:31 +0000
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:30 +0200
                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 19:43 +0000
                                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:57 +0200
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 02:35 +0000
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-31 02:50 -0400
                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 18:29 +0000
                                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-31 01:52 -0400
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-31 12:47 +0200
                                                    Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 12:37 +0100
                                                      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-31 15:50 +0000
                                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 18:41 +0000
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 02:37 -0400
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-09-01 06:26 -0700
                                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:05 +0100
                                                              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 21:07 +0000
                                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-01 18:19 +0000
                                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-31 17:07 -0600
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-01 01:20 -0400
                                                          [OT] Personal safety in the USA (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 10:27 +0100
                                                          [OT] Personal safety in the USA (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-01 08:23 -0700
                                                            Re: [OT] Personal safety in the USA Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-09-01 10:24 -0600
                                                        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 13:04 +0100
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-09-01 11:00 -0600
                                                          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-02 01:23 -0400
                                            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:49 +0100
                                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-27 16:32 +0100
                                  Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:44 -0400
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 12:57 +0000
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:03 +0100
            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:24 -0400
      Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:07 -0400
        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:42 +0000
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:14 -0400
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:13 +0100
            Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:14 +0000
              Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:27 +0100
                Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 16:57 +0000
        Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:02 +0100
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 13:54 +0000
          Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:21 -0400

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#90916

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-30 18:31 +0000
Message-ID<nfjb7gFprcuU72@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#90914
On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 19:27:32 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2026-08-29 23:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 29/08/2026 18:11, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>> As I understand the issue at hand (please correct me where I am
>>> wrong):
>>>
>>> Ukraine (like UK) is outside the EU and has looser rules. Normally, EU
>>> would keep out food not produced to EU standards, but they gave a
>>> waiver to Ukraine in order to support her in the war.
>> 
>> EU rules are already looser than UK ones.
>> 
>>> When this led to problems, he waiver was rescinded in the EU, but not
>>> yet so in the UK.
>> 
>> No, the salmonella outbreak is not confined to the UK, We merely have
>> tougher medical reporting processes so we have identified more cases,
>> but there are cases in many EU countries too.
>> 
>> And no, it is not about permitting or not permitting salmonella on
>> fowl,
>> ALL chickens have filthy bottoms and all eggs have salmonella, BUT the
>> shells are microbial tight EXCEPT in the USA where they wash them with
>> disinfectant. And therefore need to be refrigerated thereafter.
> 
> What disinfectant do they use?

https://www.eggcartons.com/products/egg-wash-powder-8lbs

The detailed government list requires an advanced chemistry degree to 
translate it into English or Spanish. It's mostly ammonia, chlorine, or 
iodine compounds. Backyard chicken farmers use dish washing liquid, 
vinegar, bleach (chlorine) or similar cleaning products.

Aside: keeping chickens in the city requires a $30 license that's good for 
three years. 


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#90923

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-08-30 21:30 +0200
Message-ID<nfjelvF3giU10@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#90916
On 2026-08-30 20:31, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 19:27:32 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-08-29 23:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 29/08/2026 18:11, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>>> As I understand the issue at hand (please correct me where I am
>>>> wrong):
>>>>
>>>> Ukraine (like UK) is outside the EU and has looser rules. Normally, EU
>>>> would keep out food not produced to EU standards, but they gave a
>>>> waiver to Ukraine in order to support her in the war.
>>>
>>> EU rules are already looser than UK ones.
>>>
>>>> When this led to problems, he waiver was rescinded in the EU, but not
>>>> yet so in the UK.
>>>
>>> No, the salmonella outbreak is not confined to the UK, We merely have
>>> tougher medical reporting processes so we have identified more cases,
>>> but there are cases in many EU countries too.
>>>
>>> And no, it is not about permitting or not permitting salmonella on
>>> fowl,
>>> ALL chickens have filthy bottoms and all eggs have salmonella, BUT the
>>> shells are microbial tight EXCEPT in the USA where they wash them with
>>> disinfectant. And therefore need to be refrigerated thereafter.
>>
>> What disinfectant do they use?
> 
> https://www.eggcartons.com/products/egg-wash-powder-8lbs
> 
> The detailed government list requires an advanced chemistry degree to
> translate it into English or Spanish. It's mostly ammonia, chlorine, or
> iodine compounds. Backyard chicken farmers use dish washing liquid,
> vinegar, bleach (chlorine) or similar cleaning products.
> 
> Aside: keeping chickens in the city requires a $30 license that's good for
> three years.

Heh.

I asked because I wash the eggs at home, with a few drops of bleach in a 
water bowl. Then I refrigerate them. My father was doing that, without 
bleach, since before I was born. Me, I decided that the procedures 
recommended here to store and handle unwashed eggs in the kitchen were 
too complicated, so I would wash them.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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#90926

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-30 19:43 +0000
Message-ID<nfjfejFprcuU79@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#90923
On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 21:30:07 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> I asked because I wash the eggs at home, with a few drops of bleach in a
> water bowl. Then I refrigerate them. My father was doing that, without
> bleach, since before I was born. Me, I decided that the procedures
> recommended here to store and handle unwashed eggs in the kitchen were
> too complicated, so I would wash them.

My parents kept chickens but they'd wrapped up the operation when I was 
very young. They came in handy during the war (II) when you could trade 
eggs for sugar or other rationed items. However they also attracted rats 
and other vermin. My mother had a thing about rats and mice. A family 
legend was the day she saw a rat and blew it away with her shotgun. 
Unfortunately the rat was sitting on a five gallon can of oil, which was 
another rationed item. 

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#90927

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-08-30 21:57 +0200
Message-ID<nfjg9jF3glU9@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#90926
On 2026-08-30 21:43, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 21:30:07 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>> I asked because I wash the eggs at home, with a few drops of bleach in a
>> water bowl. Then I refrigerate them. My father was doing that, without
>> bleach, since before I was born. Me, I decided that the procedures
>> recommended here to store and handle unwashed eggs in the kitchen were
>> too complicated, so I would wash them.
> 
> My parents kept chickens but they'd wrapped up the operation when I was
> very young. They came in handy during the war (II) when you could trade
> eggs for sugar or other rationed items. However they also attracted rats
> and other vermin. My mother had a thing about rats and mice. A family
> legend was the day she saw a rat and blew it away with her shotgun.
> Unfortunately the rat was sitting on a five gallon can of oil, which was
> another rationed item.

Here, my father went on the queue to get his tobacco ration. He did not 
smoke, but he then used the tobacco to barter for something he needed, 
like eggs.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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#90933

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-31 02:35 +0000
Message-ID<nfk7kcFprcuU83@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#90927
On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 21:57:39 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> Here, my father went on the queue to get his tobacco ration. He did not
> smoke, but he then used the tobacco to barter for something he needed,
> like eggs.

That works. US military ration packs included cigarettes up until some 
time in the '70s. More chocolate for the non-smokers. 

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#90941

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-08-31 02:50 -0400
Message-ID<Z7ycnRKes6ycuQj3nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#90916
On 8/30/26 14:31, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 19:27:32 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-08-29 23:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 29/08/2026 18:11, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>>> As I understand the issue at hand (please correct me where I am
>>>> wrong):
>>>>
>>>> Ukraine (like UK) is outside the EU and has looser rules. Normally, EU
>>>> would keep out food not produced to EU standards, but they gave a
>>>> waiver to Ukraine in order to support her in the war.
>>>
>>> EU rules are already looser than UK ones.
>>>
>>>> When this led to problems, he waiver was rescinded in the EU, but not
>>>> yet so in the UK.
>>>
>>> No, the salmonella outbreak is not confined to the UK, We merely have
>>> tougher medical reporting processes so we have identified more cases,
>>> but there are cases in many EU countries too.
>>>
>>> And no, it is not about permitting or not permitting salmonella on
>>> fowl,
>>> ALL chickens have filthy bottoms and all eggs have salmonella, BUT the
>>> shells are microbial tight EXCEPT in the USA where they wash them with
>>> disinfectant. And therefore need to be refrigerated thereafter.
>>
>> What disinfectant do they use?
> 
> https://www.eggcartons.com/products/egg-wash-powder-8lbs
> 
> The detailed government list requires an advanced chemistry degree to
> translate it into English or Spanish. It's mostly ammonia, chlorine, or
> iodine compounds. Backyard chicken farmers use dish washing liquid,
> vinegar, bleach (chlorine) or similar cleaning products.

   Those ARE good - but only for the Short Term.

   LONGER term - more aggressive methods are needed.

   BEST bet, pre-boiled eggs, then dipped in sodium
   silicate solution to 'seal the pores'.

   But usual consumers aren't gonna find that - it's
   more the 'survival' clique.

   From long back I've bought, tested, "preserved"
   food. Always SOME disaster looming.

   MREs are good for a few years, maybe 'edible' for
   seven to ten in best cases. The TASTE falls off
   badly after just a few years. Dehydrated has kinda
   poor taste regardless, but will KEEP what it's got
   for maybe a decade. It's my pref. You can live on it.

   LAST bought just before COVID, for obvious reasons.
   WAS a real chance of a supply-chain collapse.

   Didn't really happen, but COULD have happened. So ...

   Now ... maybe have to buy for the NEXT ten years.
   Unknown/undefined issues.

   At basic, be prepared for three to four weeks of
   a supply-chain disaster. Going beyond that will
   likely be a waste, but LESS than that and you
   may SUFFER.

   A month's worth of basics is pretty easy and cheap.

   Some CANNED foods - tuna, corned beef and a few
   others - are also good investments. "Spam", hate
   it or hate it, DO keep a few cans ! They last
   almost forever.

   Hmmm ... had an uncle, WW-2, who kinda had
   to LIVE on "Shit On a Shingle" for a long
   time. Could not STAND to even THINK about
   it the rest of his life :-)

> Aside: keeping chickens in the city requires a $30 license that's good for
> three years.

   Ummmm ... WHICH city ?

   Not all are so, well, asshole.

   Note there ARE forces, both 'right' and 'left',
   who WANT Joe Average to be 101% dependent on
   govt food supply. Gives them POWER. A LOT
   of power.

   LOVE BIG BROTHER - or STARVE !!!

   No, NOT old literary bullshit anymore. How
   fuckin' SAD !!! So fuckin' HORRIBLE.

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#90972

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-31 18:29 +0000
Message-ID<nflvgmFtomiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#90941
On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 02:50:12 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Hmmm ... had an uncle, WW-2, who kinda had to LIVE on "Shit On a
>    Shingle" for a long time. Could not STAND to even THINK about it the
>    rest of his life

Somewhere along the line the dried beef got replaced with ground beef. 

https://partypinching.com/sos-army-hamburger-gravy/

Tasty. My father reminisced about Cream of Wheat. Every morning the mess 
hall cooks made vats of the stuff which was transferred directly to 
garbage cans after the mess. 

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#90939

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-08-31 01:52 -0400
Message-ID<Z7ycnROes6wWiwj3nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#90914
On 8/30/26 13:27, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-29 23:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 29/08/2026 18:11, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>> As I understand the issue at hand (please correct me where I am wrong):
>>>
>>> Ukraine (like UK) is outside the EU and has looser rules. Normally, 
>>> EU would keep out food not produced to EU standards, but they gave a 
>>> waiver to Ukraine in order to support her in the war. 
>>
>> EU rules are already looser than UK ones.
>>
>>> When this led to problems, he waiver was rescinded in the EU, but not 
>>> yet so in the UK.
>>
>> No, the salmonella outbreak is not confined to the UK, We merely have 
>> tougher medical reporting processes so we have identified more cases, 
>> but there are cases in many EU countries too.
>>
>> And no, it is not about permitting or not permitting salmonella on 
>> fowl, ALL chickens have filthy bottoms and all eggs have salmonella, 
>> BUT the shells are microbial tight EXCEPT in the USA where they wash 
>> them with disinfectant. And therefore need to be refrigerated thereafter.
> 
> What disinfectant do they use?

   USA ... chlorinated water is the primary, and
   pretty effective. disinfectant.

   UK seem to say that's just AWFUL, but never
   really explains WHY.

   Suspect 'trade' issues, not 'science'.

>>
>> Eggs covered in salmonella are perfectly safe UNTIL you wash the 
>> protective covering off them.
> 
> Cracking them open needs following a procedure or it turns out 
> dangerous, too.

   Depends.

   Sodium Silicate sealed eggs - they're gonna be
   pretty safe for a long time. However the FLAVOR
   drops off.

   Eggs 'preserved' by other methods - may NOT last
   as long.

   On the whole, I'd rec NEW eggs as much as possible
   rather than relying on any 'preservation' method.

   To kill salmonella and such, DO revive said eggs
   at a kinda high initial temperature method. Boiling,
   microwave, pressure-cooker.

   Did take a couple bacteriology classes back in
   the day ... you don't even WANNA know what nasties
   are Out There .........

   Yes, 'nature' IS Out To Get Us. The germs are
   THE primary lifeform. Alien probes would report
   that, saying "single-celled" life - with just
   a tiny smattering of multi-cellular, dominates
   this planet. In short we're all GERM FOOD.

   Did you have any hubris here ? DUMP IT !

   "Flavor" aside ... look into freeze-dried
   food for "survival". TASTE may not be so
   great but you CAN eat it for a long time.

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#90952

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-08-31 12:47 +0200
Message-ID<dm2gmmxnbu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#90939
On 2026-08-31 07:52, c186282 wrote:
> On 8/30/26 13:27, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-08-29 23:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 29/08/2026 18:11, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>>> As I understand the issue at hand (please correct me where I am wrong):
>>>>
>>>> Ukraine (like UK) is outside the EU and has looser rules. Normally, 
>>>> EU would keep out food not produced to EU standards, but they gave a 
>>>> waiver to Ukraine in order to support her in the war. 
>>>
>>> EU rules are already looser than UK ones.
>>>
>>>> When this led to problems, he waiver was rescinded in the EU, but 
>>>> not yet so in the UK.
>>>
>>> No, the salmonella outbreak is not confined to the UK, We merely have 
>>> tougher medical reporting processes so we have identified more cases, 
>>> but there are cases in many EU countries too.
>>>
>>> And no, it is not about permitting or not permitting salmonella on 
>>> fowl, ALL chickens have filthy bottoms and all eggs have salmonella, 
>>> BUT the shells are microbial tight EXCEPT in the USA where they wash 
>>> them with disinfectant. And therefore need to be refrigerated 
>>> thereafter.
>>
>> What disinfectant do they use?
> 
>    USA ... chlorinated water is the primary, and
>    pretty effective. disinfectant.
> 
>    UK seem to say that's just AWFUL, but never
>    really explains WHY.
> 
>    Suspect 'trade' issues, not 'science'.

Food Experts here consider washing eggs anatema.



> 
>>>
>>> Eggs covered in salmonella are perfectly safe UNTIL you wash the 
>>> protective covering off them.
>>
>> Cracking them open needs following a procedure or it turns out 
>> dangerous, too.
> 
>    Depends.

No, I'm talking of unwashed eggs.

> 
>    Sodium Silicate sealed eggs - they're gonna be
>    pretty safe for a long time. However the FLAVOR
>    drops off.
> 
>    Eggs 'preserved' by other methods - may NOT last
>    as long.
> 
>    On the whole, I'd rec NEW eggs as much as possible
>    rather than relying on any 'preservation' method.
> 
>    To kill salmonella and such, DO revive said eggs
>    at a kinda high initial temperature method. Boiling,
>    microwave, pressure-cooker.
> 
>    Did take a couple bacteriology classes back in
>    the day ... you don't even WANNA know what nasties
>    are Out There .........
> 
>    Yes, 'nature' IS Out To Get Us. The germs are
>    THE primary lifeform. Alien probes would report
>    that, saying "single-celled" life - with just
>    a tiny smattering of multi-cellular, dominates
>    this planet. In short we're all GERM FOOD.
> 
>    Did you have any hubris here ? DUMP IT !
> 
>    "Flavor" aside ... look into freeze-dried
>    food for "survival". TASTE may not be so
>    great but you CAN eat it for a long time.
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#90959

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-08-31 12:37 +0100
Message-ID<1173p1c$s37s$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90939
On 31/08/2026 06:52, c186282 wrote:
> On 8/30/26 13:27, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-08-29 23:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 29/08/2026 18:11, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>>> As I understand the issue at hand (please correct me where I am wrong):
>>>>
>>>> Ukraine (like UK) is outside the EU and has looser rules. Normally, 
>>>> EU would keep out food not produced to EU standards, but they gave a 
>>>> waiver to Ukraine in order to support her in the war. 
>>>
>>> EU rules are already looser than UK ones.
>>>
>>>> When this led to problems, he waiver was rescinded in the EU, but 
>>>> not yet so in the UK.
>>>
>>> No, the salmonella outbreak is not confined to the UK, We merely have 
>>> tougher medical reporting processes so we have identified more cases, 
>>> but there are cases in many EU countries too.
>>>
>>> And no, it is not about permitting or not permitting salmonella on 
>>> fowl, ALL chickens have filthy bottoms and all eggs have salmonella, 
>>> BUT the shells are microbial tight EXCEPT in the USA where they wash 
>>> them with disinfectant. And therefore need to be refrigerated 
>>> thereafter.
>>
>> What disinfectant do they use?
> 
>    USA ... chlorinated water is the primary, and
>    pretty effective. disinfectant.
> 
>    UK seem to say that's just AWFUL, but never
>    really explains WHY.
> 
Because the UK looks after its fowls so they don't need this/

>    Suspect 'trade' issues, not 'science'.
> 
In the US, yes. Its cheaper to keep chickens in such density so they are 
trampled by each other pecked by each other and covered with their own 
piss and shit,m and then chlorinate them afterwards.

>>>
>>> Eggs covered in salmonella are perfectly safe UNTIL you wash the 
>>> protective covering off them.
>>
>> Cracking them open needs following a procedure or it turns out 
>> dangerous, too.
> 
>    Depends.
> 
>    Sodium Silicate sealed eggs - they're gonna be
>    pretty safe for a long time. However the FLAVOR
>    drops off.
> 
>    Eggs 'preserved' by other methods - may NOT last
>    as long.
> 
>    On the whole, I'd rec NEW eggs as much as possible
>    rather than relying on any 'preservation' method.
> 
>    To kill salmonella and such, DO revive said eggs
>    at a kinda high initial temperature method. Boiling,
>    microwave, pressure-cooker.
> 
UK eggs are not washed in anything and are not refrigerated and can be 
eaten raw.

>    Did take a couple bacteriology classes back in
>    the day ... you don't even WANNA know what nasties
>    are Out There .........
> 
We all did



-- 
All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that 
all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is 
fully understood.

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#90965

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-08-31 15:50 +0000
Message-ID<ophlS.21796$I1t6.2557@fx43.iad>
In reply to#90959
On 2026-08-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> In the US, yes. Its cheaper to keep chickens in such density so they are 
> trampled by each other pecked by each other and covered with their own 
> piss and shit,m and then chlorinate them afterwards.

Sounds like typical urban planning.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#90975

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-08-31 18:41 +0000
Message-ID<nfm06mFtomiU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#90965
On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 15:50:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2026-08-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> In the US, yes. Its cheaper to keep chickens in such density so they
>> are trampled by each other pecked by each other and covered with their
>> own piss and shit,m and then chlorinate them afterwards.
> 
> Sounds like typical urban planning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink

The planners used Calhoun's rat utopia design without reading the rest of 
the study.

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#90988

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-09-01 02:37 -0400
Message-ID<KomcnSStk4pF7wv3nZ2dnZfqnPoAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#90975
On 8/31/26 14:41, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 15:50:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-08-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> In the US, yes. Its cheaper to keep chickens in such density so they
>>> are trampled by each other pecked by each other and covered with their
>>> own piss and shit,m and then chlorinate them afterwards.
>>
>> Sounds like typical urban planning.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
> 
> The planners used Calhoun's rat utopia design without reading the rest of
> the study.

   Hey, almost NOBODY reads beyond the summary
   paragraph !  :-)

   Subscribed to a number of top journals back
   in the day (before they went 'Woke'). They
   all have a 'summary' paragraph at the top -
   but it does not get into all the DETAILS.

   DO still take Sigma-Xi, "American Scientist",
   however. It's pretty good. CAN find "Archeology"
   mag on the rack at the supermarket too. Those
   kind-of resisted "Woke-Ism". Just The Facts,
   without much socio-political "Woke" BS.

   Dropped "Scientific American" a long time
   ago ... became just horrible. Corrupted,
   biases, politically-serving farce of
   "science".

   SA keeps sending me letters pleading for
   a renewed subscription.

   NO !!! NEVER !!!

   It's gone. RUINED itself. 100+ years DOWN
   THE CRAPPER !

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#91012

FromLars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com>
Date2026-09-01 06:26 -0700
Message-ID<1176jpl$1ru3g$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90975
On 2026-08-31 11:41, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 15:50:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-08-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> In the US, yes. Its cheaper to keep chickens in such density so they
>>> are trampled by each other pecked by each other and covered with their
>>> own piss and shit,m and then chlorinate them afterwards.
>>
>> Sounds like typical urban planning.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
> 
> The planners used Calhoun's rat utopia design without reading the rest of
> the study.

It is noteworthy that other groups replicating Calhoun's experiment have 
failed to get the same results.

-- 
Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California

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#91017

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-09-01 19:05 +0100
Message-ID<117744s$226dr$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#91012
On 01/09/2026 14:26, Lars Poulsen wrote:
> On 2026-08-31 11:41, rbowman wrote:

>> The planners used Calhoun's rat utopia design without reading the rest of
>> the study.
> 
> It is noteworthy that other groups replicating Calhoun's experiment have 
> failed to get the same results.
> 
You can always get the result you want in sociology.


-- 
To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote.

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#91035

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-09-01 21:07 +0000
Message-ID<nfot43FtomiU28@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#91017
On Tue, 1 Sep 2026 19:05:15 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 01/09/2026 14:26, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>> On 2026-08-31 11:41, rbowman wrote:
> 
>>> The planners used Calhoun's rat utopia design without reading the rest
>>> of the study.
>> 
>> It is noteworthy that other groups replicating Calhoun's experiment
>> have failed to get the same results.
>> 
> You can always get the result you want in sociology.

Or pharmacology. 

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#91025

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-09-01 18:19 +0000
Message-ID<nfoj8jFtomiU20@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#91012
On Tue, 1 Sep 2026 06:26:13 -0700, Lars Poulsen wrote:

> On 2026-08-31 11:41, rbowman wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 15:50:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2026-08-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the US, yes. Its cheaper to keep chickens in such density so they
>>>> are trampled by each other pecked by each other and covered with
>>>> their own piss and shit,m and then chlorinate them afterwards.
>>>
>>> Sounds like typical urban planning.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
>> 
>> The planners used Calhoun's rat utopia design without reading the rest
>> of the study.
> 
> It is noteworthy that other groups replicating Calhoun's experiment have
> failed to get the same results.

The Science!  

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#90982

FromEnoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom>
Date2026-08-31 17:07 -0600
Message-ID<11751fg$1birh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90965
On 8/31/2026 9:50 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-08-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> In the US, yes. Its cheaper to keep chickens in such density so they are
>> trampled by each other pecked by each other and covered with their own
>> piss and shit,m and then chlorinate them afterwards.
> 
> Sounds like typical urban planning.
> 

This article sort of touches on the subject:

First 9 Most Dangerous Cities In The US (The Consequences Of Being In 
These Places Can be Devastating, If You Don’t Know What to Expect!)

This article was created for educational purposes and I suggest you take 
these tips and information with a good heart because it can help you 
prevent an unpleasant situation!

It’s difficult to believe that a little over 100 years ago not only did 
people rarely if ever lock their doors in the United States many houses 
didn’t even have locks on the doors. In today’s world, filled with 
atrocious headlines and daily murders, that thought is as strange a 
concept as not having to pay federal taxes. Especially with regard to 
the large cities that dot the country side of America. The brutal crime 
rate and their remarkable progress in the 20th century are unparalleled 
around the world. The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave has 
also given liberty to many destructive activities. These atrocities 
encompass every severe offense you can think of, from murder and 
attempted murder to reckless property crimes such as breaking and entering.

Are there neighborhoods in the U.S. that are too dangerous to visit?

I’ve driven through all of the 50 most dangerous neighborhoods in 
America, one of my many unusual travel goals, and very few were 
uncomfortably unsafe just driving through. I wouldn’t get out of the car 
and walk around though.

To answer the question, there are probably nine neighborhoods of the 
70,000 across America that I personally wouldn’t recommend anyone 
visiting, even merely driving through, unless you’re a local or have 
family there.

Continue reading at link below:

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2026/08/24/first-9-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us-the-consequences-of-being-in-these-places-can-be-devastating-if-you-dont-know-what-to-expect/

-- 
Israel’s Ben Gvir Calls For Nightly Kill Quota In Gaza

Ben Gvir: “There are people there who are not alive. They don’t need to
live. They are not people. I’m doing them a favor by calling them people.”

https://x.com/RyanRozbiani/status/2088695627702002109

https://www.globalgulag.us

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#90984

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-09-01 01:20 -0400
Message-ID<KomcnSutk4pZ_Qv3nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#90982
On 8/31/26 19:07, Enoch Powell wrote:
> On 8/31/2026 9:50 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2026-08-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> In the US, yes. Its cheaper to keep chickens in such density so they are
>>> trampled by each other pecked by each other and covered with their own
>>> piss and shit,m and then chlorinate them afterwards.
>>
>> Sounds like typical urban planning.
>>
> 
> This article sort of touches on the subject:

   Oh ... CHICKENS ... about a minus-one IQ.

> First 9 Most Dangerous Cities In The US (The Consequences Of Being In 
> These Places Can be Devastating, If You Don’t Know What to Expect!)
> 
> This article was created for educational purposes and I suggest you take 
> these tips and information with a good heart because it can help you 
> prevent an unpleasant situation!

   Almost NOBODY, NO place, is really set up for
   a Major Disaster. Being so would be TOO expensive.
   You could spend an entire national GDP on trying
   to set THAT up. TOO many ways things can go to crap.

   So, sorry, sometimes you're just gonna be On
   Your Own for awhile, maybe a LONG while.

   Prepared ??? Plan ??? What DO you do ???

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#90997 — [OT] Personal safety in the USA (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?)

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-09-01 10:27 +0100
Subject[OT] Personal safety in the USA (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?)
Message-ID<11765pk$1leom$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#90982
On 2026-09-01, Enoch Powell wrote:

> Are there neighborhoods in the U.S. that are too dangerous to visit?

Besides places where the local law enforcement authorities were already
more of high school bullies, I guess that now has to include any place
to which ICE has been deployed.

When you can be killed by a law enforcement officer "restraining" you
way beyond proportional or legal response, or beaten or shot to death
merely by existing around high school bullies with ICE badges, you can't
really say that's a place that's not dangerous.

I'd not be surprised if deaths and violence caused by ICE ended up
surpassing non-ICE crimes in a lot of places.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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