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| First post | 2026-08-25 04:41 +0000 |
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Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 04:41 +0000
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 03:15 -0400
Re: Ancient History John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-25 08:19 -0700
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 19:57 +0100
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 04:25 -0400
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 09:33 +0100
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 18:20 +0000
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 21:27 +0100
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 01:13 +0000
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:24 -0400
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 20:03 +0000
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 23:47 -0400
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 06:54 +0000
Re: Ancient History John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 09:28 -0700
Re: Ancient History Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 18:53 +0100
Re: Ancient History Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 13:11 +0100
[OT] Re: Ancient History Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 13:20 +0100
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 20:58 +0000
Re: Ancient History John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 14:49 -0700
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 05:41 +0000
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-29 02:00 -0400
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:00 +0100
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 21:55 +0000
Re: Ancient History not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-30 09:02 +1000
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:28 +0000
Re: Ancient History Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 09:15 +0100
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 19:28 +0000
Re: Ancient History "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 13:56 +0200
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 19:10 +0000
Re: Ancient History "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:32 +0200
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 21:46 +0000
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 09:57 +0100
Re: Ancient History not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-30 09:17 +1000
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:11 +0100
Re: Ancient History "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:41 +0200
Re: Ancient History Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:53 +0100
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 12:54 +0100
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 19:25 +0000
Re: Ancient History "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-25 14:23 +0200
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 03:28 -0400
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 09:12 +0100
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 18:26 +0000
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:56 -0400
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 12:00 +0100
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 20:25 +0000
Re: Ancient History Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-27 21:48 +0000
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:26 -0400
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 06:59 +0000
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:05 +0100
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 21:02 +0000
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:03 +0100
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:33 +0000
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 17:58 +0100
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:03 +0100
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:06 -0400
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:08 +0100
Re: Ancient History "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 13:45 +0200
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:42 +0100
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-29 21:59 -0400
Re: Ancient History "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 14:15 +0200
Metformin (Re: Ancient History) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-30 09:37 -0700
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:03 +0100
Re: Ancient History Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-28 12:07 -0400
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 21:00 +0000
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-29 02:22 -0400
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:01 +0100
Re: Ancient History Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-29 10:01 -0400
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:02 +0000
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 18:23 +0000
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 21:29 +0100
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 12:31 +0100
Re: Ancient History Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-25 07:53 -0400
Re: Ancient History Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-25 18:26 +0000
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 19:37 +0000
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 19:16 +0000
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 20:21 +0100
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 04:40 +0000
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 12:30 +0100
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 02:49 -0400
Re: Ancient History "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-25 20:07 +0800
Re: Ancient History Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:20 -0400
Re: Ancient History Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-25 17:44 +0000
Re: Ancient History Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-25 21:55 +0000
Re: Ancient History not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-27 08:59 +1000
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 01:20 +0000
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:38 -0400
Re: Ancient History vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-27 08:08 +0000
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:13 -0400
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 04:24 +0000
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:21 -0400
Re: Ancient History not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-28 08:58 +1000
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:36 -0400
Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 04:42 +0000
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 02:37 -0400
Re: Ancient History not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-29 07:40 +1000
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-29 02:03 -0400
Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:06 +0100
Re: Ancient History Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-28 08:59 +0100
Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-29 00:19 -0400
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-26 09:12 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116m74o$e9qm$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90601 |
On 26/08/2026 08:28, c186282 wrote: > As Mick > said, "What a drag it is getting old" ... "It was more fun being 20 in the 70s than 70 in the twenties" -- "It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere"
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-26 18:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nf8petFprcuU10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90613 |
On Wed, 26 Aug 2026 09:12:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 26/08/2026 08:28, c186282 wrote: >> As Mick >> said, "What a drag it is getting old" ... > > "It was more fun being 20 in the 70s than 70 in the twenties" That's for damn sure. My morning regimen now includes sawtooth palmetto, ginseng, and vitamin D washed down with water rather than black beauties and whatever other fun stuff was available washed down with Gallo hearty burgundy.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 03:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <hwKdnfJu5K8GcBL3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90647 |
On 8/26/26 14:26, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 26 Aug 2026 09:12:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 26/08/2026 08:28, c186282 wrote: >>> As Mick >>> said, "What a drag it is getting old" ... >> >> "It was more fun being 20 in the 70s than 70 in the twenties" > > That's for damn sure. Heh heh ... DO know what he means ! :-) > My morning regimen now includes sawtooth pa>lmetto, > ginseng, and vitamin D washed down with water rather than black beauties > and whatever other fun stuff was available washed down with Gallo hearty > burgundy. Um ... try to be very sparse with the 'suppliments' for a number of practical and theoretical reasons. JUST enough to make up for my mostly keto diet. Might not live to be 101 that way, but I'll have more fun living to 96 :-)
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 12:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116p5cv$1ddgs$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90673 |
On 27/08/2026 08:56, c186282 wrote: > Um ... try to be very sparse with the 'suppliments' SupplemEnts. -- Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that don't protect, masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 20:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfbkqhFprcuU24@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90673 |
On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 03:56:11 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Um ... try to be very sparse with the 'suppliments' > for a number of practical and theoretical reasons. JUST enough to > make up for my mostly keto diet. I probably could drop some of the ones I take but they're not any of the expensive ones and *might* have some benefit. About the only one I would suggest is tumeric with piperine (black pepper). I've found it works better than glucosamine. I tried fairly strict keto for a while. I don't obsess over it any more but I'm basically a carnivore. I can deal with Kennedy's pyramid although he's a little more into fruit. Technically I get my daily fruit. Breakfast usually is a couple of cloves of garlic, one jalapeno, one tomato, one small onion or half of a larger one, two eggs, and a slice of cheese sauteed in olive oil. I'll count the pepper and tomato as my vegetable too. To paraphrase the signs I've seen on some local businesses 'Kale has no home here.' I've tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be the only thing in the world you can fry up with plenty of bacon and garlic and it still isn't fit to eat.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 21:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <8h2kS.1079$HWaf.294@fx45.iad> |
| In reply to | #90696 |
On 2026-08-27, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > I'll count the pepper and tomato as my vegetable too. To paraphrase the > signs I've seen on some local businesses 'Kale has no home here.' I've > tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be the only thing in the world you > can fry up with plenty of bacon and garlic and it still isn't fit to eat. I saw one kale recipe I liked. It suggested stir-frying the kale in a pan with enough oil that you can easily slide it straight into the compost bin. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 00:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <wxednYo-UqpjkAz3nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90697 |
On 8/27/26 17:48, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-08-27, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> I'll count the pepper and tomato as my vegetable too. To paraphrase the >> signs I've seen on some local businesses 'Kale has no home here.' I've >> tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be the only thing in the world you >> can fry up with plenty of bacon and garlic and it still isn't fit to eat. > > I saw one kale recipe I liked. It suggested stir-frying the kale in a pan > with enough oil that you can easily slide it straight into the compost bin. Heh heh heh !!! Yea, it's just HORRIBLE ! I think BECAUSE it's so horrible is why a certain clique will eat it. A weird quirk of human psych, kind of like the Python monks who kept hitting themselves in the head with a prayer board :-) Now we need a veggie that will put pus-running cuts and lesions in your mouth - a certain crowd will just LOVE it, pay top dollar !
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 06:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfcpusFprcuU36@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90727 |
On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 00:26:18 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Now we need a veggie that will put pus-running cuts and lesions in > your mouth - a certain crowd will just LOVE it, pay top dollar ! I wonder how tasty Canadian thistle is? Apparently they've mastered nettles. https://foragerchef.com/classic-nettle-soup/
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 12:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116rq0v$28guo$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90733 |
On 28/08/2026 07:59, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 00:26:18 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Now we need a veggie that will put pus-running cuts and lesions in >> your mouth - a certain crowd will just LOVE it, pay top dollar ! > > I wonder how tasty Canadian thistle is? Apparently they've mastered > nettles. > > https://foragerchef.com/classic-nettle-soup/ > Nettles are actually not too bad,. No worse then spinach, I like a hot prawn spinach and tomato curry once a year. -- Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 21:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfebc0FprcuU46@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90742 |
On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 12:05:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 28/08/2026 07:59, rbowman wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 00:26:18 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Now we need a veggie that will put pus-running cuts and lesions in >>> your mouth - a certain crowd will just LOVE it, pay top dollar ! >> >> I wonder how tasty Canadian thistle is? Apparently they've mastered >> nettles. >> >> https://foragerchef.com/classic-nettle-soup/ >> > Nettles are actually not too bad,. No worse then spinach, I might try them but I don't remember encountering them locally. A semi- arid environment isn't their favorite place. On the plus side poison ivy doesn't do well either.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 10:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116u788$3345j$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90784 |
On 28/08/2026 22:02, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 12:05:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 28/08/2026 07:59, rbowman wrote: >>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 00:26:18 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> Now we need a veggie that will put pus-running cuts and lesions in >>>> your mouth - a certain crowd will just LOVE it, pay top dollar ! >>> >>> I wonder how tasty Canadian thistle is? Apparently they've mastered >>> nettles. >>> >>> https://foragerchef.com/classic-nettle-soup/ >>> >> Nettles are actually not too bad,. No worse then spinach, > > I might try them but I don't remember encountering them locally. A semi- > arid environment isn't their favorite place. On the plus side poison ivy > doesn't do well either. Ah. Is Montana that dry? Mind you last time I saw it it was covered in a foot of snow... -- In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone gets full Marx.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 22:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfh51bFprcuU62@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90805 |
On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:03:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 28/08/2026 22:02, rbowman wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 12:05:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 28/08/2026 07:59, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 00:26:18 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Now we need a veggie that will put pus-running cuts and lesions >>>>> in your mouth - a certain crowd will just LOVE it, pay top >>>>> dollar ! >>>> >>>> I wonder how tasty Canadian thistle is? Apparently they've mastered >>>> nettles. >>>> >>>> https://foragerchef.com/classic-nettle-soup/ >>>> >>> Nettles are actually not too bad,. No worse then spinach, >> >> I might try them but I don't remember encountering them locally. A >> semi- >> arid environment isn't their favorite place. On the plus side poison >> ivy doesn't do well either. > > Ah. Is Montana that dry? Mind you last time I saw it it was covered in a > foot of snow... 12 to 15" annual precipitation, so it's not England. The eastern part is in the rain shadow of the Rockies and is a lot drier. The northwest part is much wetter. Last winter had almost no snow in the valley. My Nordic ski gear is ancient but I've never updated it. Without driving to higher elevations conditions are usually poor. Elevation is the real factor. Often in the winter you can look around and see a bathtub ring at 5000 to 6000'. That's reflected by mostly shortgrass prairie below the snow line and trees above. The snow pack in the mountains is watched closely since it's the spring melt that feeds the rivers. Crops (and lawns) are irrigated and there isn't that much naturally moist soil. Poison ivy is the same. The only patch I know of within 50 miles is on a riverbank under a bridge that keeps the soil moist. I don't think you have the pleasure of poison ivy. It certainly isn't one of the New World plants that needed to be taken back to Europe.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 17:58 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1171nga$7umf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90862 |
On 29/08/2026 23:33, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:03:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 28/08/2026 22:02, rbowman wrote: >>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 12:05:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 28/08/2026 07:59, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 00:26:18 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Now we need a veggie that will put pus-running cuts and lesions >>>>>> in your mouth - a certain crowd will just LOVE it, pay top >>>>>> dollar ! >>>>> >>>>> I wonder how tasty Canadian thistle is? Apparently they've mastered >>>>> nettles. >>>>> >>>>> https://foragerchef.com/classic-nettle-soup/ >>>>> >>>> Nettles are actually not too bad,. No worse then spinach, >>> >>> I might try them but I don't remember encountering them locally. A >>> semi- >>> arid environment isn't their favorite place. On the plus side poison >>> ivy doesn't do well either. >> >> Ah. Is Montana that dry? Mind you last time I saw it it was covered in a >> foot of snow... > > 12 to 15" annual precipitation, so it's not England. Where I live its around 23" so not Manchester... > Poison ivy is the same. The only patch I know of within 50 miles is on a > riverbank under a bridge that keeps the soil moist. I don't think you have > the pleasure of poison ivy. It certainly isn't one of the New World plants > that needed to be taken back to Europe. > No, we dont have that -- "Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) " Alan Sokal
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 12:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116rpug$28guo$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90697 |
On 27/08/2026 22:48, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-08-27, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> I'll count the pepper and tomato as my vegetable too. To paraphrase the >> signs I've seen on some local businesses 'Kale has no home here.' I've >> tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be the only thing in the world you >> can fry up with plenty of bacon and garlic and it still isn't fit to eat. > > I saw one kale recipe I liked. It suggested stir-frying the kale in a pan > with enough oil that you can easily slide it straight into the compost bin. > +1 -- Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 00:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <wxednYs-UqrSlAz3nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90696 |
On 8/27/26 16:25, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 03:56:11 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Um ... try to be very sparse with the 'suppliments' >> for a number of practical and theoretical reasons. JUST enough to >> make up for my mostly keto diet. > > I probably could drop some of the ones I take but they're not any of the > expensive ones and *might* have some benefit. About the only one I would > suggest is tumeric with piperine (black pepper). I've found it works > better than glucosamine. Never tried tumeric. I keep hearing good and bad stuff about it. > I tried fairly strict keto for a while. I don't obsess over it any more > but I'm basically a carnivore. I can deal with Kennedy's pyramid although > he's a little more into fruit. My granny was set against "rabbit food" - an lived well to 99. I seem to have inherited her tastes. Well, almost - most everything she ate was BOILED meat and taters, northern Euro/Scandi style. Kinda yuk ! Maybe once a year she'd throw in a little cabbage. > Technically I get my daily fruit. Breakfast usually is a couple of cloves > of garlic, one jalapeno, one tomato, one small onion or half of a larger > one, two eggs, and a slice of cheese sauteed in olive oil. > > I'll count the pepper and tomato as my vegetable too. To paraphrase the > signs I've seen on some local businesses 'Kale has no home here.' I've > tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be the only thing in the world you > can fry up with plenty of bacon and garlic and it still isn't fit to eat. Veggie freaks can be, well, freaks. The WORSE it is the MORE they think they're getting benefit or being High Holy. Sorry, the critters will happily eat US - so I don't mind returning the sentiment :-) The reality of life on this planet can be MEAN. We are not musical cosmic energy-absorbing crystal philosopher lifeforms around some black-hole sun. Anyway, due to lack of veggies, I know I'm not getting enough folic acid or 'C' and a couple other little things. Those are the pills I buy. Often split 'em - the idea is Just Enough. Eat some, but not much, beef - so gotta throw in a B-12 once or twice a week. Anyway, the approach dropped me from 220 lbs to 155 over about a year. Gained back about 15 over time but still MUCH better than my max-carb days. DO miss the chocolate and Cokes and chips though, but I'd have been living on the insulin needle otherwise.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 12:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116rq7m$28guo$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90721 |
On 28/08/2026 05:06, c186282 wrote: > On 8/27/26 16:25, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 03:56:11 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Um ... try to be very sparse with the 'suppliments' >>> for a number of practical and theoretical reasons. JUST enough to >>> make up for my mostly keto diet. >> >> I probably could drop some of the ones I take but they're not any of the >> expensive ones and *might* have some benefit. About the only one I would >> suggest is tumeric with piperine (black pepper). I've found it works >> better than glucosamine. > > Never tried tumeric. I keep hearing good and bad > stuff about it. > >> I tried fairly strict keto for a while. I don't obsess over it any more >> but I'm basically a carnivore. I can deal with Kennedy's pyramid although >> he's a little more into fruit. > > My granny was set against "rabbit food" - an lived > well to 99. I seem to have inherited her tastes. > Well, almost - most everything she ate was BOILED > meat and taters, northern Euro/Scandi style. > Kinda yuk ! Maybe once a year she'd throw in > a little cabbage. > >> Technically I get my daily fruit. Breakfast usually is a couple of cloves >> of garlic, one jalapeno, one tomato, one small onion or half of a larger >> one, two eggs, and a slice of cheese sauteed in olive oil. >> >> I'll count the pepper and tomato as my vegetable too. To paraphrase the >> signs I've seen on some local businesses 'Kale has no home here.' I've >> tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be the only thing in the world you >> can fry up with plenty of bacon and garlic and it still isn't fit to eat. > > Veggie freaks can be, well, freaks. The WORSE it is > the MORE they think they're getting benefit or being > High Holy. > > Sorry, the critters will happily eat US - so I don't > mind returning the sentiment :-) > > The reality of life on this planet can be MEAN. We > are not musical cosmic energy-absorbing crystal > philosopher lifeforms around some black-hole sun. > > Anyway, due to lack of veggies, I know I'm not getting > enough folic acid or 'C' and a couple other little things. > Those are the pills I buy. Often split 'em - the idea is > Just Enough. Eat some, but not much, beef - so gotta throw > in a B-12 once or twice a week. Anyway, the approach dropped > me from 220 lbs to 155 over about a year. Gained back about > 15 over time but still MUCH better than my max-carb days. > DO miss the chocolate and Cokes and chips though, but I'd > have been living on the insulin needle otherwise. > More likely metformin. A really nasty drug -- To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 13:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nffv3hF3giU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90743 |
On 2026-08-28 13:08, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 28/08/2026 05:06, c186282 wrote:
>> On 8/27/26 16:25, rbowman wrote:
>> Anyway, due to lack of veggies, I know I'm not getting
>> enough folic acid or 'C' and a couple other little things.
>> Those are the pills I buy. Often split 'em - the idea is
>> Just Enough. Eat some, but not much, beef - so gotta throw
>> in a B-12 once or twice a week. Anyway, the approach dropped
>> me from 220 lbs to 155 over about a year. Gained back about
>> 15 over time but still MUCH better than my max-carb days.
>> DO miss the chocolate and Cokes and chips though, but I'd
>> have been living on the insulin needle otherwise.
>>
> More likely metformin. A really nasty drug
Why? :-?
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 22:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116vjog$3j6fu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90819 |
On 29/08/2026 12:45, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-08-28 13:08, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 28/08/2026 05:06, c186282 wrote: >>> On 8/27/26 16:25, rbowman wrote: > > >>> Anyway, due to lack of veggies, I know I'm not getting >>> enough folic acid or 'C' and a couple other little things. >>> Those are the pills I buy. Often split 'em - the idea is >>> Just Enough. Eat some, but not much, beef - so gotta throw >>> in a B-12 once or twice a week. Anyway, the approach dropped >>> me from 220 lbs to 155 over about a year. Gained back about >>> 15 over time but still MUCH better than my max-carb days. >>> DO miss the chocolate and Cokes and chips though, but I'd >>> have been living on the insulin needle otherwise. >>> >> More likely metformin. A really nasty drug > > Why? :-? > > Look up its side effects > -- "Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them" Margaret Thatcher
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 21:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rNSdnegk36XCEw73nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90819 |
On 8/29/26 07:45, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-08-28 13:08, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 28/08/2026 05:06, c186282 wrote: >>> On 8/27/26 16:25, rbowman wrote: > > >>> Anyway, due to lack of veggies, I know I'm not getting >>> enough folic acid or 'C' and a couple other little things. >>> Those are the pills I buy. Often split 'em - the idea is >>> Just Enough. Eat some, but not much, beef - so gotta throw >>> in a B-12 once or twice a week. Anyway, the approach dropped >>> me from 220 lbs to 155 over about a year. Gained back about >>> 15 over time but still MUCH better than my max-carb days. >>> DO miss the chocolate and Cokes and chips though, but I'd >>> have been living on the insulin needle otherwise. >>> >> More likely metformin. A really nasty drug > > Why? :-? WAS on it for a month or two. At minimum you'll be blasting out tons of yellow semi-liquid poop :-)
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 14:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nfil7jF3glU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90876 |
On 2026-08-30 03:59, c186282 wrote:
> On 8/29/26 07:45, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-08-28 13:08, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 28/08/2026 05:06, c186282 wrote:
>>>> On 8/27/26 16:25, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Anyway, due to lack of veggies, I know I'm not getting
>>>> enough folic acid or 'C' and a couple other little things.
>>>> Those are the pills I buy. Often split 'em - the idea is
>>>> Just Enough. Eat some, but not much, beef - so gotta throw
>>>> in a B-12 once or twice a week. Anyway, the approach dropped
>>>> me from 220 lbs to 155 over about a year. Gained back about
>>>> 15 over time but still MUCH better than my max-carb days.
>>>> DO miss the chocolate and Cokes and chips though, but I'd
>>>> have been living on the insulin needle otherwise.
>>>>
>>> More likely metformin. A really nasty drug
>>
>> Why? :-?
>
> WAS on it for a month or two.
>
> At minimum you'll be blasting out tons of
> yellow semi-liquid poop :-)
>
Well, yes. First day, instant diarrhoea. Took just one pill. Doctor then
put me on something that makes the kidney eject sugar in the urine
(dapagliflozin). Went fine, till I started to have urinary infections
due to the amount of sugar in the urine. Then another doctor switched me
to Metsunix, which is sitagliptin/metformin hydrochloride, and that one
works perfectly, AFAIK. And is cheap.
Many people are on metformin, I understand.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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