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| First post | 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400 |
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What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:59 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 06:05 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-18 08:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-18 11:33 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:16 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:32 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:05 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:23 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:15 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:53 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:31 -0300
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:10 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:30 -0300
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:04 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:01 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:24 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 22:07 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 04:02 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 06:48 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 16:15 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-23 21:52 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 01:07 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 11:15 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 19:26 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:45 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:39 +0000
Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-25 06:48 -0700
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 15:10 +0100
Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-26 18:04 -0700
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:23 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 12:09 +0100
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:15 -0400
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 03:21 +0000
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 02:42 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:15 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:40 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:37 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:13 +0000
Re: Power lines "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-29 21:28 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:23 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:47 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:20 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:09 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:06 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 14:19 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 15:25 +0100
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:24 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:18 +0100
Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-28 05:56 -0700
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 15:33 +0100
Re: Power lines Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:06 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:30 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:51 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:39 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:26 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:25 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 01:46 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:50 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:43 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 04:07 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 10:54 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 19:11 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 12:57 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:55 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:25 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 00:27 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:45 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:02 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:13 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:32 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 19:38 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:57 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:55 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 23:34 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-26 04:27 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 08:57 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-27 06:30 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 13:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:22 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:16 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:36 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-28 19:42 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:28 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:04 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:18 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:50 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 07:55 +0500
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-30 02:08 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:30 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 13:58 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-29 10:11 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:20 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 23:06 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-30 02:14 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:35 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:55 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:49 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-27 16:32 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:44 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 12:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:03 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:24 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:07 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:42 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:14 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:13 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:14 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:27 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 16:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:02 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 13:54 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:21 -0400
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-25 11:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116js10$3l7js$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90487 |
On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote: > Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major > environmental disasters better than yer average > 3rd-world shithole. Recent EU news suggests that > NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded power > distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! > The proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION. Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay insurance. Weather is very weird this year. Big El Niño. Only two named Atlantic storms so far. Expect the unexpected. Flash Floods in Utah,and forest fires apparently. Stock up on cans of pork and beans and fresh water -- "I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently. This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and all women"
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-25 18:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nf662aF5rktU48@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90513 |
On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 11:50:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote: >> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major >> environmental disasters better than yer average 3rd-world shithole. >> Recent EU news suggests that NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded >> power distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! The >> proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION. > > Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay > insurance. One year in the '90s Arizona found out what '100 year flood plain' means. Not a good idea to build in Rio Salada even though it hasn't been a rio in recent memory.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-26 04:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ZfqcnW9t_dSYAhP3nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90555 |
On 8/25/26 14:43, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 11:50:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote: >>> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major >>> environmental disasters better than yer average 3rd-world shithole. >>> Recent EU news suggests that NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded >>> power distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! The >>> proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION. >> >> Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay >> insurance. > > One year in the '90s Arizona found out what '100 year flood plain' means. > Not a good idea to build in Rio Salada even though it hasn't been a rio in > recent memory. Yea, "100 Year" even "1000 Year" don't really MEAN much. So, like it or not, gotta be ready for the "1000-year" EVERY year.
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| From | Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 10:54 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <116pq47$1lau2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90612 |
On 8/26/2026 2:07 AM, c186282 wrote: > On 8/25/26 14:43, rbowman wrote: >> On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 11:50:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote: >>>> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major >>>> environmental disasters better than yer average 3rd-world shithole. >>>> Recent EU news suggests that NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded >>>> power distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! The >>>> proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION. >>> >>> Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay >>> insurance. >> >> One year in the '90s Arizona found out what '100 year flood plain' means. >> Not a good idea to build in Rio Salada even though it hasn't been a >> rio in >> recent memory. > > Yea, "100 Year" even "1000 Year" don't really > MEAN much. > > So, like it or not, gotta be ready for the > "1000-year" EVERY year. Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier: https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html -- Israel’s Ben Gvir Calls For Nightly Kill Quota In Gaza Ben Gvir: “There are people there who are not alive. They don’t need to live. They are not people. I’m doing them a favor by calling them people.” https://x.com/RyanRozbiani/status/2088695627702002109 https://www.globalgulag.us
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 19:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116pulb$1mu8b$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90688 |
On 27/08/2026 17:54, Enoch Powell wrote:
> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what
> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier:
>
> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html
Its all over you tube.
Horrendous.
Yes, the consensus is a chunk of ice water rocks and sediment fell into
the valley causing a 6,4 level 'earthquake' and that overwhelmed a
series of dams and the water behind them.
Dam failure - these were hydro dams - is massively dangerous.
And yet people prefer it to nuclear power stations...
--
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that
the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."
- Bertrand Russell
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| From | Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 12:57 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <116q1a4$1nvg5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90690 |
On 8/27/2026 12:11 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 27/08/2026 17:54, Enoch Powell wrote: >> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what >> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier: >> >> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal- >> tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html > > Its all over you tube. > Horrendous. > Yes, the consensus is a chunk of ice water rocks and sediment fell into > the valley causing a 6,4 level 'earthquake' and that overwhelmed a > series of dams and the water behind them. > > Dam failure - these were hydro dams - is massively dangerous. > And yet people prefer it to nuclear power stations... > One can surmise that the collapsed glacier is a preview of things to come. Billions of people, fish and animals depend on glacier fed rivers. When "climate change" causes the glaciers to melt, billions of "refugees" will be heading to Russia, Europe and North America from water starved areas of the planet, bringing chaos and ruin to the areas they flee too. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/08/revealed-here-is-what-caused-apocalyptic-nepal-floods/ -- Israel’s Ben Gvir Calls For Nightly Kill Quota In Gaza Ben Gvir: “There are people there who are not alive. They don’t need to live. They are not people. I’m doing them a favor by calling them people.” https://x.com/RyanRozbiani/status/2088695627702002109 https://www.globalgulag.us
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 12:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116rsvv$28guo$14@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90692 |
On 27/08/2026 19:57, Enoch Powell wrote: > On 8/27/2026 12:11 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 27/08/2026 17:54, Enoch Powell wrote: >>> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what >>> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier: >>> >>> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal- >>> tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html >> >> Its all over you tube. >> Horrendous. >> Yes, the consensus is a chunk of ice water rocks and sediment fell >> into the valley causing a 6,4 level 'earthquake' and that overwhelmed >> a series of dams and the water behind them. >> >> Dam failure - these were hydro dams - is massively dangerous. >> And yet people prefer it to nuclear power stations... >> > > One can surmise that the collapsed glacier is a preview of things to > come. Billions of people, fish and animals depend on glacier fed rivers. > When "climate change" What climate change is that? > causes the glaciers to melt, billions of > "refugees" will be heading to Russia, Europe and North America from > water starved areas of the planet, bringing chaos and ruin to the areas > they flee too. > > https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/08/revealed-here-is-what-caused-apocalyptic-nepal-floods/ > *yawn*. Its always much worserer than the worserest thing there ever was, with 'climate change' Glacial collapse has always happened. We have had a massively El Niño year and it continues. Heavy rainfall in the Utah and Nevada deserts. Wildfires elsewhere Atlantic storms are down, Pacific storms are up, Antarctic ice is low, Arctic ice is higher Earthquakes are more numerous. As are volcanoes. Solar flares are extremely active, and the moon and sun are in alignment to create eclipses. Are they linked? No one knows. Man made climate change is just another man made conspiracy theory -- Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 18:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfe24aFprcuU37@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90751 |
On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 12:55:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Glacial collapse has always happened. We have had a massively El Niño > year and it continues. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacial_Lake_Missoula Damn Blackfeet and their smoky campfires. There are several markers on trails at the 4200' level. It's interesting to look out over the valley and picture a lake.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 00:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116qh4m$1s6cu$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90690 |
On 2026-08-27, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 27/08/2026 17:54, Enoch Powell wrote: >> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what >> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier: >> >> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html > > Its all over you tube. > Horrendous. > Yes, the consensus is a chunk of ice water rocks and sediment fell > into the valley causing a 6,4 level 'earthquake' and that overwhelmed > a series of dams and the water behind them. > > Dam failure - these were hydro dams - is massively dangerous. > And yet people prefer it to nuclear power stations... If anything dams may have softened the impact for a while, and even if a short while that'd probably still be immensely valuable. Other than that, if it's beyond dam capacity, there'd be a flood, dam or no dam... -- Nuno Silva
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 00:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <wxednYQ-Uqocjwz3nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90701 |
On 8/27/26 19:27, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2026-08-27, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 27/08/2026 17:54, Enoch Powell wrote: >>> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what >>> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier: >>> >>> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html >> >> Its all over you tube. >> Horrendous. >> Yes, the consensus is a chunk of ice water rocks and sediment fell >> into the valley causing a 6,4 level 'earthquake' and that overwhelmed >> a series of dams and the water behind them. >> >> Dam failure - these were hydro dams - is massively dangerous. >> And yet people prefer it to nuclear power stations... > > If anything dams may have softened the impact for a while, and even if a > short while that'd probably still be immensely valuable. > > Other than that, if it's beyond dam capacity, there'd be a flood, dam or > no dam... Hydro dams CAN be built right - but, due to the expense, rarely ARE done right. Little leaks turn into bigger leaks and then BOOM/FLUSH ! USA ... land ownership and environmental regs have limited the use of hydro for quite awhile. Most good stuff was put in before WW2. HAVE been interested in 'low-head hydro' ... computers can now design impellers/wheels well optimized for low-pressure/ high-volume. Theoretically the Mississippi river could be heavily farmed as near-zero-head hydroelectric ... basically 'raft farms' of kinda traditional-looking paddle-wheel type stuff. The lower efficiency can be made up through sheer VOLUME, cheapness and expansible modularity of the 'farms'.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 13:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116rtcq$28guo$15@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90701 |
On 28/08/2026 00:27, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2026-08-27, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 27/08/2026 17:54, Enoch Powell wrote: >>> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what >>> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier: >>> >>> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html >> >> Its all over you tube. >> Horrendous. >> Yes, the consensus is a chunk of ice water rocks and sediment fell >> into the valley causing a 6,4 level 'earthquake' and that overwhelmed >> a series of dams and the water behind them. >> >> Dam failure - these were hydro dams - is massively dangerous. >> And yet people prefer it to nuclear power stations... > > If anything dams may have softened the impact for a while, and even if a > short while that'd probably still be immensely valuable. > No. Each dam held a volume of water that was released once the event came, and the dams failed, *adding* to the chaos downstream The greatest loss of life from an energy related accident was the failure of the 1975 Banqiao Dam ... ..Around 1:30 a.m. on August 8, 1975, water overtopped the earthen structure, causing rapid and catastrophic erosion. A wall of water roughly 10 kilometers wide and 5 meters high rushed out at speeds up to 50 km/h. The initial surge caused a domino effect, leading to the catastrophic collapse of 61 total downstream dams in the Zhumadian area, including the Shimantan Dam Death Toll: Estimates range from roughly 26,000 immediate drowning deaths up to a total of 150,000–240,000 overall casualties when accounting for subsequent disease (cholera, typhoid) and widespread famine. Over 10 million people were displaced. The disaster was kept as a state secret in China for roughly 30 years before public acknowledgment and eventual reconstruction of a new dam on the site by 1993 > Other than that, if it's beyond dam capacity, there'd be a flood, dam or > no dam... The problem is similar to what brought the twin towers down. Progressive collapse,. The shock of all the water rocks and ice hitting each dam *broke* that dam. And added more water for the next dam... > -- "I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".
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| From | Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-28 16:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1193cst.gd.spamtrap42@one.localnet> |
| In reply to | #90752 |
On 2026-08-28, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 28/08/2026 00:27, Nuno Silva wrote: >> On 2026-08-27, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 27/08/2026 17:54, Enoch Powell wrote: >>>> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what >>>> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier: >>>> >>>> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html >>> >>> Its all over you tube. >>> Horrendous. >>> Yes, the consensus is a chunk of ice water rocks and sediment fell >>> into the valley causing a 6,4 level 'earthquake' and that overwhelmed >>> a series of dams and the water behind them. >>> >>> Dam failure - these were hydro dams - is massively dangerous. >>> And yet people prefer it to nuclear power stations... >> >> If anything dams may have softened the impact for a while, and even if a >> short while that'd probably still be immensely valuable. >> > No. Each dam held a volume of water that was released once the event > came, and the dams failed, *adding* to the chaos downstream > > The greatest loss of life from an energy related accident was the > failure of the 1975 Banqiao Dam ... > > ..Around 1:30 a.m. on August 8, 1975, water overtopped the earthen > structure, causing rapid and catastrophic erosion. > > A wall of water roughly 10 kilometers wide and 5 meters high rushed > out at speeds up to 50 km/h. > > The initial surge caused a domino effect, leading to the catastrophic > collapse of 61 total downstream dams in the Zhumadian area, including > the Shimantan Dam > > Death Toll: Estimates range from roughly 26,000 immediate drowning > deaths up to a total of 150,000–240,000 overall casualties when > accounting for subsequent disease (cholera, typhoid) and widespread famine. > > Over 10 million people were displaced. > > The disaster was kept as a state secret in China for roughly 30 years > before public acknowledgment and eventual reconstruction of a new dam on > the site by 1993 > > >> Other than that, if it's beyond dam capacity, there'd be a flood, dam or >> no dam... > > The problem is similar to what brought the twin towers down. Progressive > collapse,. The shock of all the water rocks and ice hitting each dam > *broke* that dam. And added more water for the next dam... Under the right (or wrong) conditions and in a much smaller scale, that can happen in nature with a series of beaver dams in a canyon. I have seen a road washout from that type of event. I was told by competent sources that there were rock gouges on tree trunks, IIRC, 8-16 feet up. -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@jacob21819.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 10:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116u8vd$3345j$11@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90770 |
On 28/08/2026 17:13, Robert Riches wrote: > On 2026-08-28, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 28/08/2026 00:27, Nuno Silva wrote: >>> On 2026-08-27, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 27/08/2026 17:54, Enoch Powell wrote: >>>>> Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what >>>>> "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet-floods-destruction-damage.html >>>> >>>> Its all over you tube. >>>> Horrendous. >>>> Yes, the consensus is a chunk of ice water rocks and sediment fell >>>> into the valley causing a 6,4 level 'earthquake' and that overwhelmed >>>> a series of dams and the water behind them. >>>> >>>> Dam failure - these were hydro dams - is massively dangerous. >>>> And yet people prefer it to nuclear power stations... >>> >>> If anything dams may have softened the impact for a while, and even if a >>> short while that'd probably still be immensely valuable. >>> >> No. Each dam held a volume of water that was released once the event >> came, and the dams failed, *adding* to the chaos downstream >> >> The greatest loss of life from an energy related accident was the >> failure of the 1975 Banqiao Dam ... >> >> ..Around 1:30 a.m. on August 8, 1975, water overtopped the earthen >> structure, causing rapid and catastrophic erosion. >> >> A wall of water roughly 10 kilometers wide and 5 meters high rushed >> out at speeds up to 50 km/h. >> >> The initial surge caused a domino effect, leading to the catastrophic >> collapse of 61 total downstream dams in the Zhumadian area, including >> the Shimantan Dam >> >> Death Toll: Estimates range from roughly 26,000 immediate drowning >> deaths up to a total of 150,000–240,000 overall casualties when >> accounting for subsequent disease (cholera, typhoid) and widespread famine. >> >> Over 10 million people were displaced. >> >> The disaster was kept as a state secret in China for roughly 30 years >> before public acknowledgment and eventual reconstruction of a new dam on >> the site by 1993 >> >> >>> Other than that, if it's beyond dam capacity, there'd be a flood, dam or >>> no dam... >> >> The problem is similar to what brought the twin towers down. Progressive >> collapse,. The shock of all the water rocks and ice hitting each dam >> *broke* that dam. And added more water for the next dam... > > Under the right (or wrong) conditions and in a much smaller > scale, that can happen in nature with a series of beaver dams in > a canyon. I have seen a road washout from that type of event. I > was told by competent sources that there were rock gouges on tree > trunks, IIRC, 8-16 feet up. > 8-16 feet is not uncommon in flash floods in arid places IIRC. The Mojave desert IIRC has more deaths from drowning than any other cause when the arroyos become raging torrents -- "It was a lot more fun being 20 in the 70's that it is being 70 in the 20's" Joew Walsh
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 19:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfgqprFprcuU52@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90814 |
On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:32:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > 8-16 feet is not uncommon in flash floods in arid places IIRC. > The Mojave desert IIRC has more deaths from drowning than any other > cause when the arroyos become raging torrents One winter that I spent in Arizona was very wet. It wasn't a big deal but for a few days I could neither go north to Ajo or east to Casa Grande or Tucson. The arroyos, called washes by the Anglo population, seldom had any water. In areas where the wash is fairly deep there may be a bridge. For those without bridges there are usually depth markers so you can judge whether or not you can drive across the ford. Some people judge poorly. Often the washes are dammed at suitable locations. If it rains a small pond is formed for livestock or irrigation purposes. The desert Pima used that strategy for their summer encampments. The years when it didn't rain they would visit their riverine cousins along the Gila or Salt rivers, provide entertainment, work in the irrigated fields, or do other odd labor. I suppose it was sort of a welfare system. Like many of today's homeless the migratory desert tribes didn't want a settled life style.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 22:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116vkkq$3j6fu$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90837 |
On 29/08/2026 20:38, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:32:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> 8-16 feet is not uncommon in flash floods in arid places IIRC. >> The Mojave desert IIRC has more deaths from drowning than any other >> cause when the arroyos become raging torrents > > One winter that I spent in Arizona was very wet. It wasn't a big deal but > for a few days I could neither go north to Ajo or east to Casa Grande or > Tucson. The arroyos, called washes by the Anglo population, seldom had any > water. In areas where the wash is fairly deep there may be a bridge. For > those without bridges there are usually depth markers so you can judge > whether or not you can drive across the ford. Some people judge poorly. > > Often the washes are dammed at suitable locations. If it rains a small > pond is formed for livestock or irrigation purposes. The desert Pima used > that strategy for their summer encampments. The years when it didn't rain > they would visit their riverine cousins along the Gila or Salt rivers, > provide entertainment, work in the irrigated fields, or do other odd > labor. I suppose it was sort of a welfare system. Like many of today's > homeless the migratory desert tribes didn't want a settled life style. Thanks for that. It was interesting. I suppose I should have said washes but for some reason I could only remember the Spanish term -- It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. Mark Twain
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 06:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfhvq9FprcuU68@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90856 |
On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 22:57:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Thanks for that. It was interesting. I suppose I should have said washes > but for some reason I could only remember the Spanish term There are several names. In the second season of Wolf Creek the survivors head for trees where the think there may be water. It's a wash and dry although they try digging for water. Sometimes that works, usually doesn't. It was filmed in South Australia but might as well have been filmed in south Arizona.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 22:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <zX6dnaaqj-cPZQ33nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90688 |
On 8/27/26 12:54, Enoch Powell wrote: > On 8/26/2026 2:07 AM, c186282 wrote: >> On 8/25/26 14:43, rbowman wrote: >>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 11:50:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote: >>>>> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major >>>>> environmental disasters better than yer average 3rd-world >>>>> shithole. >>>>> Recent EU news suggests that NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded >>>>> power distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! The >>>>> proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION. >>>> >>>> Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay >>>> insurance. >>> >>> One year in the '90s Arizona found out what '100 year flood plain' >>> means. >>> Not a good idea to build in Rio Salada even though it hasn't been a >>> rio in >>> recent memory. >> >> Yea, "100 Year" even "1000 Year" don't really >> MEAN much. >> >> So, like it or not, gotta be ready for the >> "1000-year" EVERY year. > > Some amazing video of the flooding in Nepal and Tibet from what > "experts" believe is a collapsed glacier: > > https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16083765/New-footage-nepal-tibet- > floods-destruction-damage.html THAT was impressive ! Steep hills and what looked to be a 30+ foot high gigantic flush coming down the river bed. China has warned that debris have created a NEW 'dam' that will likely fall apart suddenly and send a similar flush downhill. In any case, those "100-year" or even "1000-year" events were mostly based on data not nearly so old. Guesses. Too optimistic. Insurers and disaster orgs adopted those 'truths' in the 50s/60s. More recent works shows that regional climate shifts all the time, sort of 'cyclic'. There IS NO 'normal' except as a sort of statistical hallucination. Any ONE year can fuck you over really bad. And, with realization of that truth, it's why far more and more every year can't GET/afford any kind of property insurance. This is a serious PROBLEM.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-25 23:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ZfqcnXRt_dS0whP3nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90513 |
On 8/25/26 06:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 25/08/2026 06:46, c186282 wrote: >> Face it, the USA is barely set to deal with major >> environmental disasters better than yer average >> 3rd-world shithole. Recent EU news suggests that >> NOBODY is. Shredded housing, shredded power >> distribution, shredded comms ... yer ON YER OWN ! >> The proverbial "safety net" is 90+ percent ILLUSION. > > Cost benefit says you don't prepare for 1000 year events, you just pay > insurance. Insurance company lobbyists OBVIOUSLY behind that tact ! :-) Came across an article about a year ago - seems the mayor of Palm Beach Florida - a RICH area - had to drop his property/windstorm insurance because the price had gotten entirely out of hand. His salary would have been well into six figures fer-sure, but ...... Finally, "1000-year Events" seem to be "EVERY-year events" of late ..... note a repeat of last years deadly/destructive floods in Texas. On the plus the el-Nino ought to suppress Atlantic/Gulf hurricanes for a few years. > Weather is very weird this year. Big El Niño. Only two named Atlantic > storms so far. > > Expect the unexpected. Flash Floods in Utah,and forest fires apparently. > > Stock up on cans of pork and beans and fresh water Cans of P&B aren't a bad choice - except I have to keep a low-carb diet. Canned tuna will keep for a LONG time too. Corned beef also. For carb freaks you have plenty of choices - plain old bags of rice and wheat flour and dried beans. Just as the Covid thing was starting I scored kind of the last boxes of dehydrated food and decent MREs. Still have 'em, surely still "edible", Just In Case. MREs remain 'edible' for a long time, but the flavor gets kinda stale after a few years. Still better than the neighbors cat I suspect :-) Oh, avoid armadillo ... recent news sez they're loaded with leprosy. Lots of human xfer cases this year. There's something about the citters body temperature that makes them ideal incubators. Also probs with prion diseases in some herds of deer and moose - NO cure for those - not even sure super-well-done will destroy those mutant proteins. Actually, the whole food-supply chain, commercial and natural, seems kinda FUCKED the past five years. Never seen so many "urgent recall / Sure Death" warnings. The CryptoSHIT disease is the least of it. Fish may still be ok, but you kinda have to live on the ocean to take full advantage. Other odd bit this year - most of the horrible food diseases seem to be in VEGGIES, not meat. So much that I'm beginning to suspect something deliberate.
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| From | Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-26 04:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn118sqp3.k54.spamtrap42@one.localnet> |
| In reply to | #90583 |
On 2026-08-26, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > > Cans of P&B aren't a bad choice - except I have to > keep a low-carb diet. Canned tuna will keep for > a LONG time too. Corned beef also. For carb freaks > you have plenty of choices - plain old bags of > rice and wheat flour and dried beans. If I'm informed correctly: - wheat flour degrades rather quickly; - unground wheat berries/kernels will last for many years if stored in airtight containers with the oxygen removed by dry ice or manufactured oxygen eliminator packets; - wheat has much more protein and other nutrients than (at least white) rice. Plain wheat kernels can be boiled to make a very nice grown-up cereal. My wife likes milk, honey, cinnamon, and/or butter on hers. I prefer plain milk on mine. If no milk is available, that's okay, too. The recipe can be adjusted for the size of batch being boiled, but the general idea is to combine 3 parts water for 1 part wheat kernels, bring to a boil, turn down the heat and let slow boil or simmer for ~45 minutes, then turn off the heat and let it continue to self-cook for 3-8 hours. A larger pan will hold heat longer, while a smaller pan will cool down more quickly, so cook times can be adjusted to get the preferred consistency. In my experience, boiled wheat can be left at room temperature for up to 24 hours before refrigerating it, but it starts to taste sour after a few days in the fridge if left at room temperature longer than about 24 hours before going in the fridge. If boiling is not possible, wheat can be eaten by putting some kernels in the mouth for a few minutes to let them soften enough for chewing. -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@jacob21819.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-26 08:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116m68d$e9qm$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90583 |
On 26/08/2026 04:34, c186282 wrote: > Finally, "1000-year Events" seem to be "EVERY-year > events" of late ..... note a repeat of last years > deadly/destructive floods in Texas. On the plus > the el-Nino ought to suppress Atlantic/Gulf > hurricanes for a few years. Well yes, any random event in a year of sufficiently unique character from a set of a thousand is going to be a 'thousand year event' -- For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the very definition of slavery. Jonathan Swift
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