Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud

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From	Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net>
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Subject	Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud
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On 04/03/15 14:53, Robert Heller wrote:
> At Wed, 04 Mar 2015 14:32:04 +0000 Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> wrote:
>

>> It is a specialist network filesystem - that is for sure. It strikes me
>> as strange that there are 101 commercial suppliers (Dropbox, Google,
>> Evernote, Spideroak...) and yet no one has come up with a nice well
>> defined open protocol that addresses replication and syncing.
>
> What is sounds like is that you are looking for is something like subversion's
> WebDAV-based protocol.  The bits and pieces are there.  WebDAV is reasonably
> well documented.  Subversion is open source, so one can have a look at what it
> does.

Hmm - I do wonder how that would scale with big binary files. But I 
agree, there is almost certainly something useful in the meta data that 
would assist sync-ing. if we dispensed with the ability to roll back and 
simply worried about every client's idea of the HEAD version, then it 
would be easy for clients to work out who had the most recent copy.

But I think the mercurial logic would be better suited compared to SVN 
as Mercurial is an HTTP based version of Git and Git was designed from 
the ground up to be devoid of any central authority.

> As others have said, programs like rsync seem to cover the bases that Linux
> *Developers* are interested in. I suspect that few of the Linux *developers*
> are interested in yet another pointy-clicky 'toy'. *I* certainly have no
> interest in such a toy.

With respect I would hardly describe it as a "toy"

It is a real world problem.

Case in point:

10 years ago my house had desktops, connected by NFS to a central server 
and all was well.

Now, we have people (4) passing laptops, pads and phones around. And we 
may be needing a chromebook for the kids (schooling). NFS simply does 
not work.

I find myself uploading stuff ad hoc to Google Drive just so SWMBO can 
look at a copy on her phone.

if I don't get a solution in place we will have 7 devices with random 
bits of random peoples files all over them.

Open source dev folk use pads and phones - maybe not Chromebooks - but I 
refuse to believe they are so stuck in the stone age they cannot see 
where the future is going. Right now it's a mess.

This is most definitely a problem that needs a solution even if not 
everyone knows it yet.

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Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 13:14 +0000
  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2015-03-04 15:15 +0100
    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-04 14:19 +0000
    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 14:32 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-03-04 08:53 -0600
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 15:08 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Kirk_Von_Rockstein <Kirk_Von_Rockstein@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-05 20:11 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-03-12 03:12 -0400
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-12 08:24 +0000
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn@panix.com> - 2015-03-12 19:07 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-03-04 09:57 -0500
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 15:10 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-03-04 11:57 -0500
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 17:14 +0000
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> - 2015-03-23 10:47 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Real Doctor <ian.groups@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-23 12:08 +0000
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud HarpingOn <postmaster@127.0.0.1> - 2015-03-04 15:11 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 15:22 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-04 15:36 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-04 17:07 +0000
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 17:15 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-04 18:43 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 18:55 +0000
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-04 19:13 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 19:48 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-04 23:47 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-05 07:55 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-03-05 09:53 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-05 12:09 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-05 14:19 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-05 19:27 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-03-05 22:04 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-03-05 10:04 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-05 12:28 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-05 13:00 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-05 11:50 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-03-20 14:24 -0400
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2015-03-22 15:05 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-03-04 14:51 -0500
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 20:16 +0000
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-10 14:44 -0700
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-11 17:45 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-03-11 14:15 -0500
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-11 15:42 -0700
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-11 23:26 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-12 18:17 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> - 2015-03-12 07:47 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-12 12:23 -0700
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-13 07:19 +1100
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-12 08:22 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-03-12 09:14 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-12 09:39 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> - 2015-03-12 09:42 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-12 16:59 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> - 2015-03-12 17:20 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2015-03-12 12:49 -0500
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-12 19:03 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-12 10:12 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-12 18:17 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-13 07:13 +1100
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-12 20:50 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-03-12 16:08 -0500
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-12 21:24 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Capitol <spam@wher.eva.co.uk> - 2015-03-12 22:00 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud ImperiusDamian <damianblack.wolf@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 09:13 -0400
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2015-03-19 02:43 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-03-20 14:30 -0400
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-12 20:00 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2015-03-12 09:47 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-12 09:38 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-12 09:43 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-03-12 10:50 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-12 15:25 -0700
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-13 08:19 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-13 12:43 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-13 19:39 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-14 02:12 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-13 15:13 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-03-13 16:53 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-13 19:30 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-03-14 13:00 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 14:48 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-14 16:43 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 17:58 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-14 22:41 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-14 18:20 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-14 19:34 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-14 22:43 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-03-20 14:53 -0400
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-03-15 13:34 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Folderol <general@musically.me.uk> - 2015-03-15 15:41 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-15 18:40 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-16 15:35 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-16 15:45 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "Dennis@home" <dennis@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-03-16 16:21 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-03-16 19:05 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-16 21:40 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-17 15:00 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2015-03-12 11:17 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-12 12:03 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Stan Bischof <stan@worldbadminton.com> - 2015-03-12 16:28 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-12 20:35 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-11 22:52 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-03-12 18:17 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-03-12 02:51 -0400
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-12 08:21 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn@panix.com> - 2015-03-12 19:09 +0000
  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud HarpingOn <postmaster@127.0.0.1> - 2015-03-04 15:10 +0000
    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 15:19 +0000
      Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-03-04 15:54 +0000
        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 16:10 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2015-03-05 11:20 +0000
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-05 12:29 +0000
  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-04 18:56 +0000
  Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-03-05 00:33 +0000
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    Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-06 08:07 +0000
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        Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 14:47 +0000
          Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-15 05:40 +1100
            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 18:51 +0000
              Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-15 06:12 +1100
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 19:23 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-15 06:27 +1100
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-14 22:00 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "john james" <jj9801@nospam.com> - 2015-03-15 11:22 +1100
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            Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-16 07:46 +0000
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                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-17 21:15 +0000
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud "John F" <j@j.ii> - 2015-03-17 16:17 -0700
                Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net> - 2015-03-18 08:15 +0000
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