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Vote for your distro ;)

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First post2016-01-05 23:37 +0100
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  Vote for your distro ;) Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-05 23:37 +0100
    Re: Vote for your distro ;) John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 15:24 -0800
    Re: Vote for your distro ;) DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-05 20:55 -0500
      Re: Vote for your distro ;) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-06 02:54 +0000
        Re: Vote for your distro ;) Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-06 07:25 +0100
          Re: Vote for your distro ;) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-06 07:42 +0000
            Re: Vote for your distro ;) Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-06 08:50 +0100
              Re: Vote for your distro ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-06 05:54 -0500
              Re: Vote for your distro ;) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-07 00:16 +0000
                Re: Vote for your distro ;) Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-07 01:42 +0100
                Re: Vote for your distro ;) Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-06 20:20 -0500
                  Re: Vote for your distro ;) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-07 04:16 +0000
                    Re: Vote for your distro ;) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-07 15:26 +0000
                  Re: Vote for your distro ;) GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-07 11:48 -0700
          Re: Vote for your distro ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-06 05:43 -0500
            Re: Vote for your distro ;) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-06 06:46 -0600
              Re: Vote for your distro ;) GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-06 13:17 -0700
            Re: Vote for your distro ;) DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-07 14:48 -0500
          Re: Vote for your distro ;) GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-06 13:15 -0700
        Re: Vote for your distro ;) GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-06 13:14 -0700
      Re: Vote for your distro ;) John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 19:08 -0800
        Re: Vote for your distro ;) Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-06 07:22 +0100
          Melzzzzz is a complete Loony posting Loony links and Crap to COLA John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 05:08 -0800
            Re: Melzzzzz is a complete Loony posting Loony links and Crap to COLA Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-06 14:11 +0100
              Re: Melzzzzz is a complete Loony posting Loony links and Crap to COLA John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 05:51 -0800
            Re: Melzzzzz is a complete Loony posting Loony links and Crap to COLA Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 21:45 -0800
              Re: Melzzzzz is a complete Loony posting Loony links and Crap to COLA Marti van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid> - 2016-01-07 08:17 +0100
              Re: Melzzzzz is a complete Loony posting Loony links and Crap to COLA John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 03:07 -0800
          Re: Vote for your distro ;) Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-06 09:41 -0500
        Re: Vote for your distro ;) DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-07 13:44 -0500
          Re: Vote for your distro ;) John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 12:36 -0800
    Re: Vote for your distro ;) Vince Vandal <v2@Ce4OrysoXdNcOcOGIAkzQ3WfTYyEQV89dkhLjcQ6cCMIF3Zo5Q49YUyeRjXm.info> - 2016-01-06 04:03 +0000
      Re: Vote for your distro ;) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-06 05:37 -0500
        Re: Vote for your distro ;) Marti van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid> - 2016-01-07 05:41 +0100
      Re: Vote for your distro ;) Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-06 09:39 -0500
      Re: Vote for your distro ;) DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-07 14:22 -0500
    Re: Vote for your distro ;) Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-01-06 08:44 +0000
      Don't Look now but your Debian Leader just offed himself. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 05:52 -0800
        Re: Don't Look now but your Debian Leader just offed himself. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-01-06 15:37 +0000
          Re: Don't Look now but your Debian Leader just offed himself. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 07:46 -0800

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#339926 — Vote for your distro ;)

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2016-01-05 23:37 +0100
SubjectVote for your distro ;)
Message-ID<20160105233700.34fe31c9@maxa-pc>
http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/

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#339935

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-05 15:24 -0800
Message-ID<fc17770c-a57b-46ba-9ad1-7236c19699d8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#339926
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 5:37:02 PM UTC-5, Melzzzzz wrote:
> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/


That contest was obviously rigged.
--
Je suis Moi, Ubuntu/Linux DE
Have you been deceived by the American bully, Richard Stallman? Are you just a gnu/Linux Putz?
Main GNU spiel: http://tinyurl.com/qzxnnoj
Preplacing GNU with Ubuntu spiel: http://tinyurl.com/h9x4u8y
Ubuntu 14.04 shipped musl/libc as an optional package: http://tinyurl.com/jkthv6b
the smallest statically linked C program being 1.8K with musl/libc vs 662K with glibc: http://tinyurl.com/3rswng5
My Linux position spiel: http://tinyurl.com/zesmq9g

Sorry, but Moi is much smarter than a Stupid person bragging about how little they really know about Linux.

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#339944

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-01-05 20:55 -0500
Message-ID<n6hs2s$n74$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339926
On 1/5/2016 5:37 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/


The results from last year prove, once again, that "choice!" isn't 
nearly as important to Linux users as shitv and RonG and others claim it is.

http://fossforce.com/2015/03/poll-results-ubuntu-mint-in-near-tie/


Distro 	Votes

Ubuntu 	473
Linux Mint 	462
openSUSE 	417
Arch 	276
Debian 	192
Fedora 	190

Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes

Manjaro 	67
CentOS 	50
*PCLinuxOS 	49
*Gentoo 	36

Top 10 distros got 90% of the votes.

This is the 4th survey I've seen with very similar results.




Assuming 40 million desktop Linux users, these are the total user counts 
by distro (based on the voting proportions):


Ubuntu	7,678,571
Linux Mint	7,500,000
openSUSE	6,769,481
Arch	4,480,519
Debian	3,116,883
Fedora	3,084,416

Manjaro	1,087,662
CentOS	811,688
*PCLinuxOS	795,455
*Gentoo	584,416

*Slackware	568,182
Mageia	503,247
*Kubuntu	487,013
elementary	470,779
Antergos	389,610

Xubuntu	357,143
Bodhi Linux	211,039
Lubuntu	194,805

Kali Linux	81,169
Linux Lite	81,169
Netrunner	81,169
CrunchBang	64,935
Korora	64,935

Chakra	48,701
LMDE	48,701
MX Linux	48,701
Puppy Linux	48,701
Solydx(k)	48,701

Deepin	32,468
Funtoo Linux	32,468
KaOS	32,468
LXLE	32,468
NixOS	32,468
OpenMandriva	32,468
Sabayon	32,468

Tiny Core Linux	32,468
Void Linux	32,468

Total 40,000,000






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#339947

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-01-06 02:54 +0000
Message-ID<ghdnmgie983.afj@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#339944
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 1/5/2016 5:37 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/
> 
> 
> The results from last year prove, once again, that "choice!" isn't 
> nearly as important to Linux users as shitv and RonG and others claim it is.
> 
> http://fossforce.com/2015/03/poll-results-ubuntu-mint-in-near-tie/
> 
> 
> Distro  Votes
> 
> Ubuntu  473
> Linux Mint      462
> openSUSE        417
> Arch    276
> Debian  192
> Fedora  190
> 
> Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes
> 
> Manjaro         67
> CentOS  50
> *PCLinuxOS      49
> *Gentoo         36
> 
> Top 10 distros got 90% of the votes.
> 
> This is the 4th survey I've seen with very similar results.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Assuming 40 million desktop Linux users, these are the total user counts 
> by distro (based on the voting proportions):
> 
> 
> Ubuntu  7,678,571
> Linux Mint      7,500,000
> openSUSE        6,769,481
> Arch    4,480,519
> Debian  3,116,883
> Fedora  3,084,416
> 
> Manjaro 1,087,662
> CentOS  811,688
> *PCLinuxOS      795,455
> *Gentoo 584,416
> 
> *Slackware      568,182
> Mageia  503,247
> *Kubuntu        487,013
> elementary      470,779
> Antergos        389,610
> 
> Xubuntu 357,143
> Bodhi Linux     211,039
> Lubuntu 194,805
> 
> Kali Linux      81,169
> Linux Lite      81,169
> Netrunner       81,169
> CrunchBang      64,935
> Korora  64,935
> 
> Chakra  48,701
> LMDE    48,701
> MX Linux        48,701
> Puppy Linux     48,701
> Solydx(k)       48,701
> 
> Deepin  32,468
> Funtoo Linux    32,468
> KaOS    32,468
> LXLE    32,468
> NixOS   32,468
> OpenMandriva    32,468
> Sabayon 32,468
> 
> Tiny Core Linux 32,468
> Void Linux      32,468
> 
> Total 40,000,000
> 

I guess nobody sprung for that Red Hat license.

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#339951

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2016-01-06 07:25 +0100
Message-ID<20160106072515.6df83e19@maxa-pc>
In reply to#339947
On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:54:20 +0000 (UTC)
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> > On 1/5/2016 5:37 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:  
> >> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/  
> > 
> > 
> > The results from last year prove, once again, that "choice!" isn't 
> > nearly as important to Linux users as shitv and RonG and others
> > claim it is.
> > 
> > http://fossforce.com/2015/03/poll-results-ubuntu-mint-in-near-tie/
> > 
> > 
> > Distro  Votes
> > 
> > Ubuntu  473
> > Linux Mint      462
> > openSUSE        417
> > Arch    276
> > Debian  192
> > Fedora  190
> > 
> > Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes
> > 
> > Manjaro         67
> > CentOS  50
> > *PCLinuxOS      49
> > *Gentoo         36
> > 
> > Top 10 distros got 90% of the votes.
> > 
> > This is the 4th survey I've seen with very similar results.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Assuming 40 million desktop Linux users, these are the total user
> > counts by distro (based on the voting proportions):
> > 
> > 
> > Ubuntu  7,678,571
> > Linux Mint      7,500,000
> > openSUSE        6,769,481
> > Arch    4,480,519
> > Debian  3,116,883
> > Fedora  3,084,416
> > 
> > Manjaro 1,087,662
> > CentOS  811,688
> > *PCLinuxOS      795,455
> > *Gentoo 584,416
> > 
> > *Slackware      568,182
> > Mageia  503,247
> > *Kubuntu        487,013
> > elementary      470,779
> > Antergos        389,610
> > 
> > Xubuntu 357,143
> > Bodhi Linux     211,039
> > Lubuntu 194,805
> > 
> > Kali Linux      81,169
> > Linux Lite      81,169
> > Netrunner       81,169
> > CrunchBang      64,935
> > Korora  64,935
> > 
> > Chakra  48,701
> > LMDE    48,701
> > MX Linux        48,701
> > Puppy Linux     48,701
> > Solydx(k)       48,701
> > 
> > Deepin  32,468
> > Funtoo Linux    32,468
> > KaOS    32,468
> > LXLE    32,468
> > NixOS   32,468
> > OpenMandriva    32,468
> > Sabayon 32,468
> > 
> > Tiny Core Linux 32,468
> > Void Linux      32,468
> > 
> > Total 40,000,000
> >   
> 
> I guess nobody sprung for that Red Hat license.
> 

RHEL is for servers. CentOS, ditto...

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#339952

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-01-06 07:42 +0000
Message-ID<tugidlei0.3af@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#339951
Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:54:20 +0000 (UTC)
> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> > On 1/5/2016 5:37 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:  
>> >> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/  
>> > 
>> > 
>> > The results from last year prove, once again, that "choice!" isn't 
>> > nearly as important to Linux users as shitv and RonG and others
>> > claim it is.
>> > 
>> > http://fossforce.com/2015/03/poll-results-ubuntu-mint-in-near-tie/
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Distro  Votes
>> > 
>> > Ubuntu  473
>> > Linux Mint      462
>> > openSUSE        417
>> > Arch    276
>> > Debian  192
>> > Fedora  190
>> > 
>> > Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes
>> > 
>> > Manjaro         67
>> > CentOS  50
>> > *PCLinuxOS      49
>> > *Gentoo         36
>> > 
>> > Top 10 distros got 90% of the votes.
>> > 
>> > This is the 4th survey I've seen with very similar results.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Assuming 40 million desktop Linux users, these are the total user
>> > counts by distro (based on the voting proportions):
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Ubuntu  7,678,571
>> > Linux Mint      7,500,000
>> > openSUSE        6,769,481
>> > Arch    4,480,519
>> > Debian  3,116,883
>> > Fedora  3,084,416
>> > 
>> > Manjaro 1,087,662
>> > CentOS  811,688
>> > *PCLinuxOS      795,455
>> > *Gentoo 584,416
>> > 
>> > *Slackware      568,182
>> > Mageia  503,247
>> > *Kubuntu        487,013
>> > elementary      470,779
>> > Antergos        389,610
>> > 
>> > Xubuntu 357,143
>> > Bodhi Linux     211,039
>> > Lubuntu 194,805
>> > 
>> > Kali Linux      81,169
>> > Linux Lite      81,169
>> > Netrunner       81,169
>> > CrunchBang      64,935
>> > Korora  64,935
>> > 
>> > Chakra  48,701
>> > LMDE    48,701
>> > MX Linux        48,701
>> > Puppy Linux     48,701
>> > Solydx(k)       48,701
>> > 
>> > Deepin  32,468
>> > Funtoo Linux    32,468
>> > KaOS    32,468
>> > LXLE    32,468
>> > NixOS   32,468
>> > OpenMandriva    32,468
>> > Sabayon 32,468
>> > 
>> > Tiny Core Linux 32,468
>> > Void Linux      32,468
>> > 
>> > Total 40,000,000
>> >   
>> 
>> I guess nobody sprung for that Red Hat license.
>> 
> 
> RHEL is for servers.

https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/desktop/
"Red Hat Enterprise Linux for Desktops or Workstation"

> CentOS, ditto...
> 

survey:
"CentOS  811,688"

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#339953

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2016-01-06 08:50 +0100
Message-ID<20160106085033.22476777@maxa-pc>
In reply to#339952
On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 07:42:46 +0000 (UTC)
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:54:20 +0000 (UTC)
> > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> >   
> >> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:  
> >> > On 1/5/2016 5:37 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:    
> >> >> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/    
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > The results from last year prove, once again, that "choice!"
> >> > isn't nearly as important to Linux users as shitv and RonG and
> >> > others claim it is.
> >> > 
> >> > http://fossforce.com/2015/03/poll-results-ubuntu-mint-in-near-tie/
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Distro  Votes
> >> > 
> >> > Ubuntu  473
> >> > Linux Mint      462
> >> > openSUSE        417
> >> > Arch    276
> >> > Debian  192
> >> > Fedora  190
> >> > 
> >> > Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes
> >> > 
> >> > Manjaro         67
> >> > CentOS  50
> >> > *PCLinuxOS      49
> >> > *Gentoo         36
> >> > 
> >> > Top 10 distros got 90% of the votes.
> >> > 
> >> > This is the 4th survey I've seen with very similar results.
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Assuming 40 million desktop Linux users, these are the total user
> >> > counts by distro (based on the voting proportions):
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Ubuntu  7,678,571
> >> > Linux Mint      7,500,000
> >> > openSUSE        6,769,481
> >> > Arch    4,480,519
> >> > Debian  3,116,883
> >> > Fedora  3,084,416
> >> > 
> >> > Manjaro 1,087,662
> >> > CentOS  811,688
> >> > *PCLinuxOS      795,455
> >> > *Gentoo 584,416
> >> > 
> >> > *Slackware      568,182
> >> > Mageia  503,247
> >> > *Kubuntu        487,013
> >> > elementary      470,779
> >> > Antergos        389,610
> >> > 
> >> > Xubuntu 357,143
> >> > Bodhi Linux     211,039
> >> > Lubuntu 194,805
> >> > 
> >> > Kali Linux      81,169
> >> > Linux Lite      81,169
> >> > Netrunner       81,169
> >> > CrunchBang      64,935
> >> > Korora  64,935
> >> > 
> >> > Chakra  48,701
> >> > LMDE    48,701
> >> > MX Linux        48,701
> >> > Puppy Linux     48,701
> >> > Solydx(k)       48,701
> >> > 
> >> > Deepin  32,468
> >> > Funtoo Linux    32,468
> >> > KaOS    32,468
> >> > LXLE    32,468
> >> > NixOS   32,468
> >> > OpenMandriva    32,468
> >> > Sabayon 32,468
> >> > 
> >> > Tiny Core Linux 32,468
> >> > Void Linux      32,468
> >> > 
> >> > Total 40,000,000
> >> >     
> >> 
> >> I guess nobody sprung for that Red Hat license.
> >>   
> > 
> > RHEL is for servers.  
> 
> https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/desktop/
> "Red Hat Enterprise Linux for Desktops or Workstation"
> 
> > CentOS, ditto...
> >   
> 
> survey:
> "CentOS  811,688"
> 

Who would run that on desktop?


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#339963

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2016-01-06 05:54 -0500
Message-ID<n6irou$b0a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339953
Melzzzzz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 07:42:46 +0000 (UTC)
> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:54:20 +0000 (UTC)
>> > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> I guess nobody sprung for that Red Hat license.
>> > 
>> > RHEL is for servers.  
>> 
>> https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/desktop/
>> "Red Hat Enterprise Linux for Desktops or Workstation"
>> 
>> > CentOS, ditto...
>> 
>> survey:
>> "CentOS  811,688"
>
> Who would run that on desktop?

Us, at work.  It is one of the "supported" distros at work.
SuSE and RedHat itself are the others.

It's a pain in the ass, too.  First, it doesn't have nearly the
package range and configuration conveniences of Debian.  Second,
IT assumes that any Linux workstation is a server, and they
force you to install an anti-virus program, to protect the precious
Windoze boxes they think will be getting files forwarded through
your "server".  

The AV is a royal pain in the ass.  If you use a GUI file explorer
on GNOME, it will take minutes to load your Download directory
and your fan revs up due to the overhead of the file scanner.
(Console "ls"?  No problem. Luckily, that's my preferred way to work
with files.)

I've had it produce (and slowly) corrupt data ISO files.

I've had it induce freeze-ups in my Windows VirtualBox-hosted
machines.

I've had it strip out the content of *XML* files transferred from
a Windows machine.

It's crazy stuff, and indicates just what an impact Windoze vulnerabilities
have on reliability and performance.

Luckily, unlike with Windows, IT also lets the Linux user be the
administrator of his computer, and one can temporarily disable that
fucking crapware in order to DO ONE'S JOB. 

-- 
Lady Luck brings added income today.  Lady friend takes it away tonight.

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#340008

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-01-07 00:16 +0000
Message-ID<tyiee9w.390a@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#339953
Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 07:42:46 +0000 (UTC)
> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:54:20 +0000 (UTC)
>> > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> >   
>> >> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:  
>> >> > On 1/5/2016 5:37 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:    
>> >> >> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/    
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > The results from last year prove, once again, that "choice!"
>> >> > isn't nearly as important to Linux users as shitv and RonG and
>> >> > others claim it is.
>> >> > 
>> >> > http://fossforce.com/2015/03/poll-results-ubuntu-mint-in-near-tie/
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > Distro  Votes
>> >> > 
>> >> > Ubuntu  473
>> >> > Linux Mint      462
>> >> > openSUSE        417
>> >> > Arch    276
>> >> > Debian  192
>> >> > Fedora  190
>> >> > 
>> >> > Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes
>> >> > 
>> >> > Manjaro         67
>> >> > CentOS  50
>> >> > *PCLinuxOS      49
>> >> > *Gentoo         36
>> >> > 
>> >> > Top 10 distros got 90% of the votes.
>> >> > 
>> >> > This is the 4th survey I've seen with very similar results.
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > Assuming 40 million desktop Linux users, these are the total user
>> >> > counts by distro (based on the voting proportions):
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > Ubuntu  7,678,571
>> >> > Linux Mint      7,500,000
>> >> > openSUSE        6,769,481
>> >> > Arch    4,480,519
>> >> > Debian  3,116,883
>> >> > Fedora  3,084,416
>> >> > 
>> >> > Manjaro 1,087,662
>> >> > CentOS  811,688
>> >> > *PCLinuxOS      795,455
>> >> > *Gentoo 584,416
>> >> > 
>> >> > *Slackware      568,182
>> >> > Mageia  503,247
>> >> > *Kubuntu        487,013
>> >> > elementary      470,779
>> >> > Antergos        389,610
>> >> > 
>> >> > Xubuntu 357,143
>> >> > Bodhi Linux     211,039
>> >> > Lubuntu 194,805
>> >> > 
>> >> > Kali Linux      81,169
>> >> > Linux Lite      81,169
>> >> > Netrunner       81,169
>> >> > CrunchBang      64,935
>> >> > Korora  64,935
>> >> > 
>> >> > Chakra  48,701
>> >> > LMDE    48,701
>> >> > MX Linux        48,701
>> >> > Puppy Linux     48,701
>> >> > Solydx(k)       48,701
>> >> > 
>> >> > Deepin  32,468
>> >> > Funtoo Linux    32,468
>> >> > KaOS    32,468
>> >> > LXLE    32,468
>> >> > NixOS   32,468
>> >> > OpenMandriva    32,468
>> >> > Sabayon 32,468
>> >> > 
>> >> > Tiny Core Linux 32,468
>> >> > Void Linux      32,468
>> >> > 
>> >> > Total 40,000,000
>> >> >     
>> >> 
>> >> I guess nobody sprung for that Red Hat license.
>> >>   
>> > 
>> > RHEL is for servers.  
>> 
>> https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/desktop/
>> "Red Hat Enterprise Linux for Desktops or Workstation"
>> 
>> > CentOS, ditto...
>> >   
>> 
>> survey:
>> "CentOS  811,688"
>> 
> 
> Who would run that on desktop?
> 

What's the difference?  Linux is Linux.  Red Hat has just set up a business
model catering to corporate users, providing a point of contact for "official
support."  You too can join that club for a price.  In fact, there are
even two levels of "self-support" -- one at $49 and one at $179.  Sounds
like a killer deal to me.  I can't fathom why RHEL doesn't show up on this
bogus survey.
 

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#340009

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2016-01-07 01:42 +0100
Message-ID<20160107014210.07c56212@maxa-pc>
In reply to#340008
On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 00:16:00 +0000 (UTC)
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 07:42:46 +0000 (UTC)
> > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> >   
> >> Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:  
> >> > On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:54:20 +0000 (UTC)
> >> > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> >> >     
> >> >> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:    
> >> >> > On 1/5/2016 5:37 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:      
> >> >> >> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/      
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > The results from last year prove, once again, that "choice!"
> >> >> > isn't nearly as important to Linux users as shitv and RonG and
> >> >> > others claim it is.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > http://fossforce.com/2015/03/poll-results-ubuntu-mint-in-near-tie/
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Distro  Votes
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Ubuntu  473
> >> >> > Linux Mint      462
> >> >> > openSUSE        417
> >> >> > Arch    276
> >> >> > Debian  192
> >> >> > Fedora  190
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Manjaro         67
> >> >> > CentOS  50
> >> >> > *PCLinuxOS      49
> >> >> > *Gentoo         36
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Top 10 distros got 90% of the votes.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > This is the 4th survey I've seen with very similar results.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Assuming 40 million desktop Linux users, these are the total
> >> >> > user counts by distro (based on the voting proportions):
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Ubuntu  7,678,571
> >> >> > Linux Mint      7,500,000
> >> >> > openSUSE        6,769,481
> >> >> > Arch    4,480,519
> >> >> > Debian  3,116,883
> >> >> > Fedora  3,084,416
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Manjaro 1,087,662
> >> >> > CentOS  811,688
> >> >> > *PCLinuxOS      795,455
> >> >> > *Gentoo 584,416
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > *Slackware      568,182
> >> >> > Mageia  503,247
> >> >> > *Kubuntu        487,013
> >> >> > elementary      470,779
> >> >> > Antergos        389,610
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Xubuntu 357,143
> >> >> > Bodhi Linux     211,039
> >> >> > Lubuntu 194,805
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Kali Linux      81,169
> >> >> > Linux Lite      81,169
> >> >> > Netrunner       81,169
> >> >> > CrunchBang      64,935
> >> >> > Korora  64,935
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Chakra  48,701
> >> >> > LMDE    48,701
> >> >> > MX Linux        48,701
> >> >> > Puppy Linux     48,701
> >> >> > Solydx(k)       48,701
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Deepin  32,468
> >> >> > Funtoo Linux    32,468
> >> >> > KaOS    32,468
> >> >> > LXLE    32,468
> >> >> > NixOS   32,468
> >> >> > OpenMandriva    32,468
> >> >> > Sabayon 32,468
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Tiny Core Linux 32,468
> >> >> > Void Linux      32,468
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Total 40,000,000
> >> >> >       
> >> >> 
> >> >> I guess nobody sprung for that Red Hat license.
> >> >>     
> >> > 
> >> > RHEL is for servers.    
> >> 
> >> https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/desktop/
> >> "Red Hat Enterprise Linux for Desktops or Workstation"
> >>   
> >> > CentOS, ditto...
> >> >     
> >> 
> >> survey:
> >> "CentOS  811,688"
> >>   
> > 
> > Who would run that on desktop?
> >   
> 
> What's the difference?  Linux is Linux.  Red Hat has just set up a
> business model catering to corporate users, providing a point of
> contact for "official support."  You too can join that club for a
> price.  In fact, there are even two levels of "self-support" -- one
> at $49 and one at $179.  Sounds like a killer deal to me.  I can't
> fathom why RHEL doesn't show up on this bogus survey.
>  

Because it is based on distrowatch rankings. RHEL takes 43. place.
There is `other` option which allows to choose any other distro and
specify name.
Second round will include top 20 distros from first round, giving RHEL
chance to show up if enough users vote...

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#340011

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2016-01-06 20:20 -0500
Message-ID<n6kecd$c09$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#340008
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On 2016-01-06 7:16 PM, owl wrote:
> Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 07:42:46 +0000 (UTC) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:54:20 +0000 (UTC) owl
>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/5/2016 5:37 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The results from last year prove, once again, that
>>>>>> "choice!" isn't nearly as important to Linux users as
>>>>>> shitv and RonG and others claim it is.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://fossforce.com/2015/03/poll-results-ubuntu-mint-in-near-tie
/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
Distro  Votes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ubuntu  473 Linux Mint      462 openSUSE        417 Arch
>>>>>> 276 Debian  192 Fedora  190
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Manjaro         67 CentOS  50 *PCLinuxOS      49 *Gentoo
>>>>>> 36
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Top 10 distros got 90% of the votes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is the 4th survey I've seen with very similar
>>>>>> results.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Assuming 40 million desktop Linux users, these are the
>>>>>> total user counts by distro (based on the voting
>>>>>> proportions):
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ubuntu  7,678,571 Linux Mint      7,500,000 openSUSE
>>>>>> 6,769,481 Arch    4,480,519 Debian  3,116,883 Fedora
>>>>>> 3,084,416
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Manjaro 1,087,662 CentOS  811,688 *PCLinuxOS
>>>>>> 795,455 *Gentoo 584,416
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *Slackware      568,182 Mageia  503,247 *Kubuntu
>>>>>> 487,013 elementary      470,779 Antergos        389,610
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Xubuntu 357,143 Bodhi Linux     211,039 Lubuntu 194,805
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kali Linux      81,169 Linux Lite      81,169 Netrunner
>>>>>> 81,169 CrunchBang      64,935 Korora  64,935
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chakra  48,701 LMDE    48,701 MX Linux        48,701 
>>>>>> Puppy Linux     48,701 Solydx(k)       48,701
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Deepin  32,468 Funtoo Linux    32,468 KaOS    32,468 LXLE
>>>>>> 32,468 NixOS   32,468 OpenMandriva    32,468 Sabayon
>>>>>> 32,468
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tiny Core Linux 32,468 Void Linux      32,468
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Total 40,000,000
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I guess nobody sprung for that Red Hat license.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> RHEL is for servers.
>>> 
>>> https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/desktop/ "Red Hat Enterprise
>>> Linux for Desktops or Workstation"
>>> 
>>>> CentOS, ditto...
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> survey: "CentOS  811,688"
>>> 
>> 
>> Who would run that on desktop?
>> 
> 
> What's the difference?  Linux is Linux.  Red Hat has just set up a
> business model catering to corporate users, providing a point of
> contact for "official support."  You too can join that club for a
> price.  In fact, there are even two levels of "self-support" -- one
> at $49 and one at $179.  Sounds like a killer deal to me.  I can't
> fathom why RHEL doesn't show up on this bogus survey.

I haven't used Redhat in years. How outdated is it in comparison to
Fedora? I can't imagine that Redhat uses the latest code.


- -- 
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter
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#340016

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-01-07 04:16 +0000
Message-ID<ghjds903.fpa3f@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#340011
Slimer <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA256
> 
> On 2016-01-06 7:16 PM, owl wrote:
>> Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 07:42:46 +0000 (UTC) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:54:20 +0000 (UTC) owl
>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/5/2016 5:37 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The results from last year prove, once again, that
>>>>>>> "choice!" isn't nearly as important to Linux users as
>>>>>>> shitv and RonG and others claim it is.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://fossforce.com/2015/03/poll-results-ubuntu-mint-in-near-tie
> /
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
> Distro  Votes
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ubuntu  473 Linux Mint      462 openSUSE        417 Arch
>>>>>>> 276 Debian  192 Fedora  190
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Manjaro         67 CentOS  50 *PCLinuxOS      49 *Gentoo
>>>>>>> 36
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Top 10 distros got 90% of the votes.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is the 4th survey I've seen with very similar
>>>>>>> results.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Assuming 40 million desktop Linux users, these are the
>>>>>>> total user counts by distro (based on the voting
>>>>>>> proportions):
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ubuntu  7,678,571 Linux Mint      7,500,000 openSUSE
>>>>>>> 6,769,481 Arch    4,480,519 Debian  3,116,883 Fedora
>>>>>>> 3,084,416
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Manjaro 1,087,662 CentOS  811,688 *PCLinuxOS
>>>>>>> 795,455 *Gentoo 584,416
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *Slackware      568,182 Mageia  503,247 *Kubuntu
>>>>>>> 487,013 elementary      470,779 Antergos        389,610
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Xubuntu 357,143 Bodhi Linux     211,039 Lubuntu 194,805
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kali Linux      81,169 Linux Lite      81,169 Netrunner
>>>>>>> 81,169 CrunchBang      64,935 Korora  64,935
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chakra  48,701 LMDE    48,701 MX Linux        48,701 
>>>>>>> Puppy Linux     48,701 Solydx(k)       48,701
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Deepin  32,468 Funtoo Linux    32,468 KaOS    32,468 LXLE
>>>>>>> 32,468 NixOS   32,468 OpenMandriva    32,468 Sabayon
>>>>>>> 32,468
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tiny Core Linux 32,468 Void Linux      32,468
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Total 40,000,000
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I guess nobody sprung for that Red Hat license.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> RHEL is for servers.
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/desktop/ "Red Hat Enterprise
>>>> Linux for Desktops or Workstation"
>>>> 
>>>>> CentOS, ditto...
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> survey: "CentOS  811,688"
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Who would run that on desktop?
>>> 
>> 
>> What's the difference?  Linux is Linux.  Red Hat has just set up a
>> business model catering to corporate users, providing a point of
>> contact for "official support."  You too can join that club for a
>> price.  In fact, there are even two levels of "self-support" -- one
>> at $49 and one at $179.  Sounds like a killer deal to me.  I can't
>> fathom why RHEL doesn't show up on this bogus survey.
> 
> I haven't used Redhat in years. How outdated is it in comparison to
> Fedora? I can't imagine that Redhat uses the latest code.
> 

I have no idea about Fedora.  I stick with stable distributions.
I don't care a whit for cutting edge stuff.  My last RHEL was 3.0.
Here's what a CentOS 7 build from last year looks like, which should
give you an idea of recent Red Hat:

https://vid.me/oo1s

I believe there was another release in December.  This one's from last
Spring.

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#340037

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-01-07 15:26 +0000
Message-ID<ghjdus03.af3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#340016
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> Slimer <.m@nsn.s> wrote:

>> 
>> I haven't used Redhat in years. How outdated is it in comparison to
>> Fedora? I can't imagine that Redhat uses the latest code.
>> 
> 
> I have no idea about Fedora.  I stick with stable distributions.
> I don't care a whit for cutting edge stuff.  My last RHEL was 3.0.
> Here's what a CentOS 7 build from last year looks like, which should
> give you an idea of recent Red Hat:
> 
> https://vid.me/oo1s
> 
> I believe there was another release in December.  This one's from last
> Spring.
> 

Latest CentOS 7 release vs Fedora 23:
https://vid.me/7VZl

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#340045

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-07 11:48 -0700
Message-ID<n6mbpl$nlq$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#340011
On 01/06/16 18:20, Slimer wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA256
>
> On 2016-01-06 7:16 PM, owl wrote:
>> Melzzzzz<mel@zzzzz.com>  wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 07:42:46 +0000 (UTC) owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Melzzzzz<mel@zzzzz.com>  wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:54:20 +0000 (UTC) owl
>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> DFS<nospam@dfs.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/5/2016 5:37 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The results from last year prove, once again, that
>>>>>>> "choice!" isn't nearly as important to Linux users as
>>>>>>> shitv and RonG and others claim it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://fossforce.com/2015/03/poll-results-ubuntu-mint-in-near-tie
> /
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
> Distro  Votes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ubuntu  473 Linux Mint      462 openSUSE        417 Arch
>>>>>>> 276 Debian  192 Fedora  190
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Manjaro         67 CentOS  50 *PCLinuxOS      49 *Gentoo
>>>>>>> 36
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Top 10 distros got 90% of the votes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the 4th survey I've seen with very similar
>>>>>>> results.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Assuming 40 million desktop Linux users, these are the
>>>>>>> total user counts by distro (based on the voting
>>>>>>> proportions):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ubuntu  7,678,571 Linux Mint      7,500,000 openSUSE
>>>>>>> 6,769,481 Arch    4,480,519 Debian  3,116,883 Fedora
>>>>>>> 3,084,416
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Manjaro 1,087,662 CentOS  811,688 *PCLinuxOS
>>>>>>> 795,455 *Gentoo 584,416
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Slackware      568,182 Mageia  503,247 *Kubuntu
>>>>>>> 487,013 elementary      470,779 Antergos        389,610
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Xubuntu 357,143 Bodhi Linux     211,039 Lubuntu 194,805
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kali Linux      81,169 Linux Lite      81,169 Netrunner
>>>>>>> 81,169 CrunchBang      64,935 Korora  64,935
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chakra  48,701 LMDE    48,701 MX Linux        48,701
>>>>>>> Puppy Linux     48,701 Solydx(k)       48,701
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deepin  32,468 Funtoo Linux    32,468 KaOS    32,468 LXLE
>>>>>>> 32,468 NixOS   32,468 OpenMandriva    32,468 Sabayon
>>>>>>> 32,468
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tiny Core Linux 32,468 Void Linux      32,468
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Total 40,000,000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess nobody sprung for that Red Hat license.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> RHEL is for servers.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/desktop/ "Red Hat Enterprise
>>>> Linux for Desktops or Workstation"
>>>>
>>>>> CentOS, ditto...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> survey: "CentOS  811,688"
>>>>
>>>
>>> Who would run that on desktop?
>>>
>>
>> What's the difference?  Linux is Linux.  Red Hat has just set up a
>> business model catering to corporate users, providing a point of
>> contact for "official support."  You too can join that club for a
>> price.  In fact, there are even two levels of "self-support" -- one
>> at $49 and one at $179.  Sounds like a killer deal to me.  I can't
>> fathom why RHEL doesn't show up on this bogus survey.
>
> I haven't used Redhat in years. How outdated is it in comparison to
> Fedora? I can't imagine that Redhat uses the latest code.
>
>
They don't use the bleeding edge code.  They're after reliability and 
use.  Still isn't reliable enough tho.

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#339962

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2016-01-06 05:43 -0500
Message-ID<n6ir3c$7b7$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339951
Melzzzzz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:54:20 +0000 (UTC)
> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> > On 1/5/2016 5:37 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:  
>> >> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/  
>> > 
>> > 
>> > The results from last year prove, once again, that "choice!" isn't 
>> > nearly as important to Linux users as shitv and RonG and others
>> > claim it is.
>> > 
>> > http://fossforce.com/2015/03/poll-results-ubuntu-mint-in-near-tie/
>> > 
>> > Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes

Hmmmm, six choices are popular!  The rest of the *numerous* choices, not
as popular!  Extree extree read all about it!

Whoa.  Sounds a bit like that redneck bigot's claim that one
Windows "super-computer" ranked at #50 or so left 450 Linux
setups "in the dust".

And this guy is a programmer?

His application of "logic" should embarrass even that other paragon of
twisted logic, "Ezekiel".

>> I guess nobody sprung for that Red Hat license.
>
> RHEL is for servers. CentOS, ditto...

Rather.

Although it makes a decent workstation, as well.  Certainly better
than using any "edition" of Windows.

-- 
You will be called upon to help a friend in trouble.

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#339966

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-01-06 06:46 -0600
Message-ID<6c2q8bdv1345ta0njh9vm5srpkuugi2jul@4ax.com>
In reply to#339962
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > The results from last year prove, once again, that "choice!" isn't 
>>> > nearly as important to Linux users as shitv and RonG and others
>>> > claim it is.

The results prove that we are 100% correct.

At least "Ezekiel" doesn't think, or won't admit, that you're a liar
and a dumbshit.

>>> > Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes
>
>Hmmmm, six choices are popular!  The rest of the *numerous* choices, not
>as popular!  Extree extree read all about it!
>
>Whoa.  Sounds a bit like that redneck bigot's claim that one
>Windows "super-computer" ranked at #50 or so left 450 Linux
>setups "in the dust".
>
>And this guy is a programmer?

Indeed.  It's beyond embarrassing.

>His application of "logic" should embarrass even that other paragon of
>twisted logic, "Ezekiel".

The Ezekreep hypocrite's ridicule of bad thinking stops where his
shitty pals start.

-- 
'(cola is) just full of loonies who think Linux is "perfect" and
already has 70% of the desktop install base.'  -  Hadron Quark, lying
shamelessly (but "Ezekiel" never noticed him lying)

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#340006

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-06 13:17 -0700
Message-ID<n6jsjg$5rs$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339966
On 01/06/16 05:46, chrisv wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>>>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The results from last year prove, once again, that "choice!" isn't
>>>>> nearly as important to Linux users as shitv and RonG and others
>>>>> claim it is.
>
> The results prove that we are 100% correct.
>
> At least "Ezekiel" doesn't think, or won't admit, that you're a liar
> and a dumbshit.
>
>>>>> Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes
>>
>> Hmmmm, six choices are popular!  The rest of the *numerous* choices, not
>> as popular!  Extree extree read all about it!
>>
>> Whoa.  Sounds a bit like that redneck bigot's claim that one
>> Windows "super-computer" ranked at #50 or so left 450 Linux
>> setups "in the dust".
>>
>> And this guy is a programmer?

Buzz off, Turdv, as you aren't in that category.
Your category is sanitary engineer.

LOL!!!

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#340052

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-01-07 14:48 -0500
Message-ID<n6mfc7$ug9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339962
On 1/6/2016 5:43 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Melzzzzz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:54:20 +0000 (UTC)
>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> On 1/5/2016 5:37 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The results from last year prove, once again, that "choice!" isn't
>>>> nearly as important to Linux users as shitv and RonG and others
>>>> claim it is.
>>>>
>>>> http://fossforce.com/2015/03/poll-results-ubuntu-mint-in-near-tie/
>>>>
>>>> Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes
>
> Hmmmm, six choices are popular!


Not just "six choices", Creepy, but /the same six choices/, year after year:

Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Debian, Arch, openSUSE

Like shitv said: "the top distros have barely changed in YEARS."



> The rest of the *numerous* choices, not
> as popular!  Extree extree read all about it!


The rest of the *ridiculous" choices, not as popular.  There are around 
160 desktop distros listed in distrowatch.  It's beyond moronic.





> Whoa.  Sounds a bit like that redneck bigot's claim that one
> Windows "super-computer" ranked at #50 or so left 450 Linux
> setups "in the dust".

Yes it did.  It was #58 at the time.  It debuted on the list at #11, I 
believe.



> And this guy is a programmer?

Yes.  And a software developer, and a DBA.  And better than you at all 
those disciplines.

Still waiting for you to respond to my Python challenge, you spineless 
'Little Beaver' wimp.



> His application of "logic" should embarrass even that other paragon of
> twisted logic, "Ezekiel".

Another good poster that makes mincemeat of you pro-Linux idiots.


>>> I guess nobody sprung for that Red Hat license.
>>
>> RHEL is for servers. CentOS, ditto...
>
> Rather.
>
> Although it makes a decent workstation, as well.  Certainly better
> than using any "edition" of Windows.

That's not what they say at your office, Creepy.  They insist on 
Windows, just like your clients and your family, and the families of 
most cola "advocates".

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#340005

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-06 13:15 -0700
Message-ID<n6jsg1$5rs$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339951
On 01/05/16 23:25, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 02:54:20 +0000 (UTC)
> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>
>> DFS<nospam@dfs.com>  wrote:
>>> On 1/5/2016 5:37 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/
>>>
>>>
>>> The results from last year prove, once again, that "choice!" isn't
>>> nearly as important to Linux users as shitv and RonG and others
>>> claim it is.
>>>
>>> http://fossforce.com/2015/03/poll-results-ubuntu-mint-in-near-tie/
>>>
>>>
>>> Distro  Votes
>>>
>>> Ubuntu  473
>>> Linux Mint      462
>>> openSUSE        417
>>> Arch    276
>>> Debian  192
>>> Fedora  190
>>>
>>> Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes
>>>
>>> Manjaro         67
>>> CentOS  50
>>> *PCLinuxOS      49
>>> *Gentoo         36
>>>
>>> Top 10 distros got 90% of the votes.
>>>
>>> This is the 4th survey I've seen with very similar results.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Assuming 40 million desktop Linux users, these are the total user
>>> counts by distro (based on the voting proportions):
>>>
>>>
>>> Ubuntu  7,678,571
>>> Linux Mint      7,500,000
>>> openSUSE        6,769,481
>>> Arch    4,480,519
>>> Debian  3,116,883
>>> Fedora  3,084,416
>>>
>>> Manjaro 1,087,662
>>> CentOS  811,688
>>> *PCLinuxOS      795,455
>>> *Gentoo 584,416
>>>
>>> *Slackware      568,182
>>> Mageia  503,247
>>> *Kubuntu        487,013
>>> elementary      470,779
>>> Antergos        389,610
>>>
>>> Xubuntu 357,143
>>> Bodhi Linux     211,039
>>> Lubuntu 194,805
>>>
>>> Kali Linux      81,169
>>> Linux Lite      81,169
>>> Netrunner       81,169
>>> CrunchBang      64,935
>>> Korora  64,935
>>>
>>> Chakra  48,701
>>> LMDE    48,701
>>> MX Linux        48,701
>>> Puppy Linux     48,701
>>> Solydx(k)       48,701
>>>
>>> Deepin  32,468
>>> Funtoo Linux    32,468
>>> KaOS    32,468
>>> LXLE    32,468
>>> NixOS   32,468
>>> OpenMandriva    32,468
>>> Sabayon 32,468
>>>
>>> Tiny Core Linux 32,468
>>> Void Linux      32,468
>>>
>>> Total 40,000,000
>>>
>>
>> I guess nobody sprung for that Red Hat license.
>>
>
> RHEL is for servers. CentOS, ditto...
>
RedHat also has their desktop version.

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#340004

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-06 13:14 -0700
Message-ID<n6jsf5$5rs$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339947
On 01/05/16 19:54, owl wrote:
> DFS<nospam@dfs.com>  wrote:
>> On 1/5/2016 5:37 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/its-whats-your-distro-time/
>>
>>
>> The results from last year prove, once again, that "choice!" isn't
>> nearly as important to Linux users as shitv and RonG and others claim it is.
>>
>> http://fossforce.com/2015/03/poll-results-ubuntu-mint-in-near-tie/
>>
>>
>> Distro  Votes
>>
>> Ubuntu  473
>> Linux Mint      462
>> openSUSE        417
>> Arch    276
>> Debian  192
>> Fedora  190
>>
>> Top 6 distros got 82% of the votes
>>
>> Manjaro         67
>> CentOS  50
>> *PCLinuxOS      49
>> *Gentoo         36
>>
>> Top 10 distros got 90% of the votes.
>>
>> This is the 4th survey I've seen with very similar results.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Assuming 40 million desktop Linux users, these are the total user counts
>> by distro (based on the voting proportions):
>>
>>
>> Ubuntu  7,678,571
>> Linux Mint      7,500,000
>> openSUSE        6,769,481
>> Arch    4,480,519
>> Debian  3,116,883
>> Fedora  3,084,416
>>
>> Manjaro 1,087,662
>> CentOS  811,688
>> *PCLinuxOS      795,455
>> *Gentoo 584,416
>>
>> *Slackware      568,182
>> Mageia  503,247
>> *Kubuntu        487,013
>> elementary      470,779
>> Antergos        389,610
>>
>> Xubuntu 357,143
>> Bodhi Linux     211,039
>> Lubuntu 194,805
>>
>> Kali Linux      81,169
>> Linux Lite      81,169
>> Netrunner       81,169
>> CrunchBang      64,935
>> Korora  64,935
>>
>> Chakra  48,701
>> LMDE    48,701
>> MX Linux        48,701
>> Puppy Linux     48,701
>> Solydx(k)       48,701
>>
>> Deepin  32,468
>> Funtoo Linux    32,468
>> KaOS    32,468
>> LXLE    32,468
>> NixOS   32,468
>> OpenMandriva    32,468
>> Sabayon 32,468
>>
>> Tiny Core Linux 32,468
>> Void Linux      32,468
>>
>> Total 40,000,000
>>
>
> I guess nobody sprung for that Red Hat license.
>

I did a couple of years ago.  It worked well, but then so does windows.
No real advantage really.

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