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| First post | 2018-09-02 06:43 +0000 |
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Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 06:43 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 00:01 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 02:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-02 12:34 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Nobody you know <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2018-09-02 10:36 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:49 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:31 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 19:23 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:44 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 21:13 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 14:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-09-02 21:52 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 21:58 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 15:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 22:41 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:07 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 19:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-04 07:33 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 06:37 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 06:40 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 10:05 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-04 09:14 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-04 15:58 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 11:48 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:59 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 16:21 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 23:49 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 17:08 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 17:24 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 17:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 22:26 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 21:39 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 22:03 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 07:03 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 07:09 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 07:36 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 07:55 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-05 16:47 +0000
crApple products chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 12:15 -0500
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 01:03 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 18:20 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:17 -0700
Re: crApple products chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 09:47 -0500
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:06 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 14:36 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:51 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:30 -0700
Re: crApple products DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-06 12:44 -0400
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 11:28 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:35 -0700
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 23:57 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 00:17 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:25 -0400
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 03:51 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 22:00 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:44 +0000
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:15 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:34 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:42 -0400
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:11 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:43 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:40 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:53 -0400
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:12 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:20 -0400
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:22 -0700
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 21:21 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 21:39 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 14:56 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:55 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 09:12 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 09:32 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 21:37 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 14:47 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 22:12 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:29 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:47 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 22:48 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:57 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 23:26 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 16:00 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:50 -0700
Re: crApple products Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-09 19:43 -0400
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 17:05 -0700
"Gain" is the _ input volume. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-09-09 18:57 -0700
Re: "Gain" is the _ input volume. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 19:26 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 14:53 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 15:04 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 15:19 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:28 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:39 -0400
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 14:06 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:39 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:29 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:10 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:42 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:52 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 10:15 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 21:47 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-05 16:44 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:59 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:34 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:31 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:13 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 12:42 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 06:00 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 09:06 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 06:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:30 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:23 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:26 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-09-06 22:39 +0200
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 13:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:05 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 18:26 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:26 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:29 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:39 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:47 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-06 19:50 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:52 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 17:26 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-06 19:53 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 17:10 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:22 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 16:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 11:25 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 11:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 23:46 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-07 10:58 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-07 09:16 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:50 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:16 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:35 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:44 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 14:07 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-08 14:14 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 10:06 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:39 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 07:25 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 05:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 06:37 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 15:45 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 11:05 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 12:46 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 23:25 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 12:23 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:32 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-02 22:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 22:57 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 16:27 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 15:20 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:06 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 17:56 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 14:17 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:05 -0400
Frankly, I don't notice [any] difference [in the Kernel] Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 07:21 -0700
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| From | William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-07 19:42 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fvggnrFqa6iU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466247 |
On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 23:34:55 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 23:15:06 +0000, RonB wrote: > >> On 2018-09-07, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote: >>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 03:51:27 +0000, RonB wrote: >>> >>>> On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad >>>>>>>>>that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to >>>>>>>>>upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design >>>>>>>>>is a great deal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>>>>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>>>>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from >>>>>>>> working, and they are completely unserviceable - the entire >>>>>>>> keyboard, and a bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must >>>>>>>> be replaced. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement >>>>>>>> you get has the same design problem! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>>>>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who >>>>>>>> spend thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>>>>>interested in supporting... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple >>>>>>>> again gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro >>>>>>>> Thunderbolt-only. *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit >>>>>>>> design. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. >>>>>>> What does this pile of crap sell for? >>>>>> >>>>>> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. >>>>> >>>>> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >>>>> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ >>>> >>>> Personally, zero interest in anything Apple. >>> >>> But... but... improved productivity and error-reduction! >> >> Here's an open secret ... Apple infects your brain and (in extreme >> cases) turns you into a "Snit." Although I admit his trolling >> productivity and nym creating productivity is off the charts. Too bad >> you can't do anything productively useful with an Apple. > > A human-like creature in Prescott, Arizona spontaneously combusted just > now. Hopefully the town isn't sending the fire department to douse the flames and incurring yet another expense related to the leech.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 09:11 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fvialmF6v8nU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466237 |
On 9/7/18 4:15 PM, RonB wrote: > On 2018-09-07, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote: >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 03:51:27 +0000, RonB wrote: >> >>> On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad >>>>>>>> that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to >>>>>>>> upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is >>>>>>>> a great deal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>>>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>>>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from >>>>>>> working, and they are completely unserviceable - the entire >>>>>>> keyboard, and a bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be >>>>>>> replaced. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement >>>>>>> you get has the same design problem! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>>>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >>>>>>> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>>>> interested in supporting... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple >>>>>>> again gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro >>>>>>> Thunderbolt-only. *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit >>>>>>> design. >>>>>> >>>>>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What >>>>>> does this pile of crap sell for? >>>>> >>>>> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. >>>> >>>> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >>>> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ >>> >>> Personally, zero interest in anything Apple. >> >> But... but... improved productivity and error-reduction! > > Here's an open secret ... Apple infects your brain and (in extreme cases) > turns you into a "Snit." Although I admit his trolling productivity and nym > creating productivity is off the charts. Too bad you can't do anything > productively useful with an Apple. > You say you are not obsessed with me, nor with Apple. But yet here you are making things up and begging for attention. Weird. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 18:43 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fvgnpvFrimrU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466222 |
On 9/7/18 1:44 PM, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 03:51:27 +0000, RonB wrote: > >> On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad >>>>>>> that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to >>>>>>> upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is >>>>>>> a great deal. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from >>>>>> working, and they are completely unserviceable - the entire >>>>>> keyboard, and a bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be >>>>>> replaced. >>>>>> >>>>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement >>>>>> you get has the same design problem! >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >>>>>> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>>> interested in supporting... >>>>>> >>>>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple >>>>>> again gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro >>>>>> Thunderbolt-only. *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit >>>>>> design. >>>>> >>>>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What >>>>> does this pile of crap sell for? >>>> >>>> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. >>> >>> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >>> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ >> >> Personally, zero interest in anything Apple. > > But... but... improved productivity and error-reduction! > He can use what he likes... but the idea he has no interest in Apple is a lie, be speaks of them often, putting them down to try to justify his decisions to HIMSELF. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 20:40 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <6nBkD.5997$MJ2.1978@fx11.iad> |
| In reply to | #466158 |
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 21:25:14 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: > >> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >> >>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>> >>>>>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad >>>>>that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to >>>>>upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a >>>>>great deal. >>>> >>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, >>>> and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a >>>> bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. >>>> >>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement >>>> you get has the same design problem! >>>> >>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >>>> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>> >>>>>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>interested in supporting... >>>> >>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again >>>> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. >>>> *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. >>> >>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What >>> does this pile of crap sell for? >> >> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. > > Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. > https://www.tonymacx86.com/ MacOS, to me, is like a Mexican woman who looks alright with make-up but like the pig that she is without. That's all the "improved productivity and error-reduction" operating system is. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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| From | William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 17:53 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fvgabfFp0qoU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466221 |
On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 20:40:34 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 21:25:14 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >>> >>>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad >>>>>>that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to >>>>>>upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a >>>>>>great deal. >>>>> >>>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, >>>>> and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a >>>>> bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. >>>>> >>>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement >>>>> you get has the same design problem! >>>>> >>>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >>>>> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>>> >>>>>>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>>interested in supporting... >>>>> >>>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again >>>>> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. >>>>> *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. >>>> >>>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What >>>> does this pile of crap sell for? >>> >>> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. >> >> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ > > MacOS, to me, is like a Mexican woman who looks alright with make-up but > like the pig that she is without. > > That's all the "improved productivity and error-reduction" operating > system is. Apple does one thing very good and that is graphics. If you look at a program like Adobe on a Mac and then look at the same program on a Windows box with a similar monitor, the Mac will almost always look better. The scaling, dpi and fonts just look really, really, really good. With Windows the user has to play around with dpi, desktop settings and so forth and people with 4k monitors quickly realize text is so small they can barely read it. Other than that, Apple is a huge waste of money in my opinion. And reliability and serviceability sucks big time. So does upgrade ability. That's why most people get Apple Care, which I will admit is excellent. They really do take care of their customers. They should considering how much all this stuff costs.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 23:12 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <pmv0lh$b2s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #466231 |
On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 20:40:34 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: > >> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 21:25:14 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad >>>>>>>that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to >>>>>>>upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a >>>>>>>great deal. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, >>>>>> and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a >>>>>> bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. >>>>>> >>>>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement >>>>>> you get has the same design problem! >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >>>>>> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>>>> >>>>>>>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>>>interested in supporting... >>>>>> >>>>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again >>>>>> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. >>>>>> *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. >>>>> >>>>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What >>>>> does this pile of crap sell for? >>>> >>>> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. >>> >>> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >>> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ >> >> MacOS, to me, is like a Mexican woman who looks alright with make-up but >> like the pig that she is without. >> >> That's all the "improved productivity and error-reduction" operating >> system is. > > Apple does one thing very good and that is graphics. If you look at a > program like Adobe on a Mac and then look at the same program on a Windows > box with a similar monitor, the Mac will almost always look better. The > scaling, dpi and fonts just look really, really, really good. With Windows > the user has to play around with dpi, desktop settings and so forth and > people with 4k monitors quickly realize text is so small they can barely > read it. Apple "does one thing (graphics) better" because OSX based on UNIX and the application makers (like Adobe) take advantage of that superior platform. They could do the same for Linux, but figure there's not enough market for it. > Other than that, Apple is a huge waste of money in my opinion. > And reliability and serviceability sucks big time. So does upgrade ability. All surface and no substance. > That's why most people get Apple Care, which I will admit is excellent. > They really do take care of their customers. They should considering how > much all this stuff costs. It's kind of like the barber who also sells hats. "Yeah, I admit that's a terrible haircut. You want to buy a hat?" -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 19:20 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fvgferFq3a6U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466236 |
On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 23:12:49 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: > On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 20:40:34 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 21:25:14 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad >>>>>>>>that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to >>>>>>>>upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a >>>>>>>>great deal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>>>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>>>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, >>>>>>> and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a >>>>>>> bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement >>>>>>> you get has the same design problem! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>>>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >>>>>>> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>>>>interested in supporting... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again >>>>>>> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. >>>>>>> *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. >>>>>> >>>>>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What >>>>>> does this pile of crap sell for? >>>>> >>>>> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. >>>> >>>> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >>>> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ >>> >>> MacOS, to me, is like a Mexican woman who looks alright with make-up but >>> like the pig that she is without. >>> >>> That's all the "improved productivity and error-reduction" operating >>> system is. >> >> Apple does one thing very good and that is graphics. If you look at a >> program like Adobe on a Mac and then look at the same program on a Windows >> box with a similar monitor, the Mac will almost always look better. The >> scaling, dpi and fonts just look really, really, really good. With Windows >> the user has to play around with dpi, desktop settings and so forth and >> people with 4k monitors quickly realize text is so small they can barely >> read it. > > Apple "does one thing (graphics) better" because OSX based on UNIX and the > application makers (like Adobe) take advantage of that superior platform. > They could do the same for Linux, but figure there's not enough market for > it. Whatever they are doing it looks great. I wish Linux could do the same. Take a look in BestBuy next time you are there. The Apple boxen just look really good. It's easily noticeable. >> Other than that, Apple is a huge waste of money in my opinion. >> And reliability and serviceability sucks big time. So does upgrade ability. > > All surface and no substance. They use proprietary mechanics to achieve form but at the expense of function, at least with regards to what I wrote above. The Windows world does this as well with oddball mini PC's but the difference is there are alternatives for the consumer. Dell has been doing it for years. With Apple it's take it or leave it. >> That's why most people get Apple Care, which I will admit is excellent. >> They really do take care of their customers. They should considering how >> much all this stuff costs. > > It's kind of like the barber who also sells hats. "Yeah, I admit that's a > terrible haircut. You want to buy a hat?" Daughter had an iPhone with cracked screen. No Apple care. They let her purchase Apple Care for like $75 and the screen was covered. Without it the replacement would have been like $150.. Making up the numbers as I don't remember but it was substantial. I was impressed that they offered that option. Bottom line is I would never buy an Apple product without the Apple Care warranty. Never.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 09:22 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fvib9qF74iuU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466240 |
On 9/7/18 4:20 PM, William Barnes wrote: ... >>>> That's all the "improved productivity and error-reduction" operating >>>> system is. >>> >>> Apple does one thing very good and that is graphics. If you look at a >>> program like Adobe on a Mac and then look at the same program on a Windows >>> box with a similar monitor, the Mac will almost always look better. The >>> scaling, dpi and fonts just look really, really, really good. With Windows >>> the user has to play around with dpi, desktop settings and so forth and >>> people with 4k monitors quickly realize text is so small they can barely >>> read it. >> >> Apple "does one thing (graphics) better" because OSX based on UNIX and the >> application makers (like Adobe) take advantage of that superior platform. >> They could do the same for Linux, but figure there's not enough market for >> it. That and tech issues with Linux... trying to work on all distros is not easy for them. One of their developers has written about this. > Whatever they are doing it looks great. I wish Linux could do the same. > Take a look in BestBuy next time you are there. The Apple boxen just look > really good. It's easily noticeable. They do... but I will agree they focus on looks over function at times. My big examples is making the iMac so thin. I get it on a mobile computer, but a desktop? Makes no sense. Make it a bit thicker and then allow users to more easily swap hard drives and RAM as needed. >>> Other than that, Apple is a huge waste of money in my opinion. >>> And reliability and serviceability sucks big time. So does upgrade ability. >> >> All surface and no substance. > > They use proprietary mechanics to achieve form but at the expense of > function, at least with regards to what I wrote above. > The Windows world does this as well with oddball mini PC's but the > difference is there are alternatives for the consumer. Dell has been doing > it for years. With Apple it's take it or leave it. There are certainly trade offs. I love the iMac screens but as I said above there is certainly stuff about their hardware I do NOT like. For me it is more about what I can do with a system... and I tend to "live" in the GUI and jump from program to program a lot. It takes the idea of doing that in the UNIX CLI and brings it to a large extent to the GUI... and to me that is of great value. With that said, here I am working on a really, really crappy Usenet client because that is the best I can find on macOS. I could use a CLI one, but prefer GUI programs. For some things the macOS programs are FAR from ideal. >>> That's why most people get Apple Care, which I will admit is excellent. >>> They really do take care of their customers. They should considering how >>> much all this stuff costs. >> >> It's kind of like the barber who also sells hats. "Yeah, I admit that's a >> terrible haircut. You want to buy a hat?" Most companies sell warranties. > Daughter had an iPhone with cracked screen. No Apple care. They let her > purchase Apple Care for like $75 and the screen was covered. Without it the > replacement would have been like $150.. Making up the numbers as I don't > remember but it was substantial. > I was impressed that they offered that option. Their customer service is second to none. > Bottom line is I would never buy an Apple product without the Apple Care > warranty. Never. I have had to use it a few times and now always get it. Does not pay off for each computer I have owned but overall it has. And if I have an issue they pay for someone to come to my house to fix it if I want... even though there is no Apple store within 100 miles of me. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 21:21 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <pn1ehl$q6r$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #466240 |
On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > > Whatever they are doing it looks great. I wish Linux could do the same. > Take a look in BestBuy next time you are there. The Apple boxen just look > really good. It's easily noticeable. It's not Apple who is "doing it," it's Adobe. And Linux can't "do the same" because Adobe Photoshop is proprietary application. > > Bottom line is I would never buy an Apple product without the Apple Care > warranty. Never. I can go one better. I would never buy an Apple product. Never. -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 21:39 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <mkXkD.61602$Ac3.7996@fx45.iad> |
| In reply to | #466356 |
On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 21:21:58 +0000, RonB wrote: > On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >> >> Whatever they are doing it looks great. I wish Linux could do the same. >> Take a look in BestBuy next time you are there. The Apple boxen just >> look really good. It's easily noticeable. > > It's not Apple who is "doing it," it's Adobe. And Linux can't "do the > same" > because Adobe Photoshop is proprietary application. There's basically nothing that MacOS or Windows can do that Linux can't. Hell, Linux can play Windows games better than Windows 10 can (if they're old, anyway). Considering how good GIMP has become though, there is truly little reason to buy Photoshop unless you've been trained with it as a professional and have gotten accustomed to the interface. For _everyone_ else, GIMP is way more than enough. >> Bottom line is I would never buy an Apple product without the Apple >> Care warranty. Never. > > I can go one better. I would never buy an Apple product. Never. Neither will I. My wife uses an iPhone 8 Plus from work but even she is disgusted with the company and she's a lot more resistant to boycotting corporations than I am. The only company I think I would have trouble boycotting is Puma... but if ever they pull some Kapernick-like garbage like Nike did, I'll burn the shoes and get me some New Balance. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 14:56 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fviut8FatndU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466364 |
On 9/8/18 2:39 PM, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 21:21:58 +0000, RonB wrote: > >> On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Whatever they are doing it looks great. I wish Linux could do the same. >>> Take a look in BestBuy next time you are there. The Apple boxen just >>> look really good. It's easily noticeable. >> >> It's not Apple who is "doing it," it's Adobe. And Linux can't "do the >> same" >> because Adobe Photoshop is proprietary application. > > There's basically nothing that MacOS or Windows can do that Linux can't. While there are exceptions, such as being able to do some of the things I note with screencasting, even if was true it would not mean all are equally good at all things. > Hell, Linux can play Windows games better than Windows 10 can (if they're > old, anyway). Considering how good GIMP has become though, there is truly > little reason to buy Photoshop unless you've been trained with it as a > professional and have gotten accustomed to the interface. Or you are a high end user of any sort who uses the many capabilities of Photoshop which GIMP lacks. > For _everyone_ > else, GIMP is way more than enough. Simply not true. >>> Bottom line is I would never buy an Apple product without the Apple >>> Care warranty. Never. >> >> I can go one better. I would never buy an Apple product. Never. > > Neither will I. My wife uses an iPhone 8 Plus from work but even she is > disgusted with the company and she's a lot more resistant to boycotting > corporations than I am. > > The only company I think I would have trouble boycotting is Puma... but > if ever they pull some Kapernick-like garbage like Nike did, I'll burn > the shoes and get me some New Balance. New Balance has gone HORRIBLY down hill... but whatever. Why burn them and not donate them, assuming they are in decent condition? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 23:55 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <235e275d-f5cc-4411-ad3f-d86cae6c61ff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466372 |
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 2:56:59 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote: > On 9/8/18 2:39 PM, SilverSlimer wrote: > > On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 21:21:58 +0000, RonB wrote: > > > >> On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Whatever they are doing it looks great. I wish Linux could do the same. > >>> Take a look in BestBuy next time you are there. The Apple boxen just > >>> look really good. It's easily noticeable. > >> > >> It's not Apple who is "doing it," it's Adobe. And Linux can't "do the > >> same" > >> because Adobe Photoshop is proprietary application. > > > > There's basically nothing that MacOS or Windows can do that Linux can't. > > While there are exceptions, such as being able to do some of the things > I note with screencasting, even if was true it would not mean all are > equally good at all things. > > > Hell, Linux can play Windows games better than Windows 10 can (if they're > > old, anyway). Considering how good GIMP has become though, there is truly > > little reason to buy Photoshop unless you've been trained with it as a > > professional and have gotten accustomed to the interface. > > Or you are a high end user of any sort who uses the many capabilities of > Photoshop which GIMP lacks. > > > For _everyone_ > > else, GIMP is way more than enough. > > Simply not true. > > >>> Bottom line is I would never buy an Apple product without the Apple > >>> Care warranty. Never. > >> > >> I can go one better. I would never buy an Apple product. Never. > > > > Neither will I. My wife uses an iPhone 8 Plus from work but even she is > > disgusted with the company and she's a lot more resistant to boycotting > > corporations than I am. > > > > The only company I think I would have trouble boycotting is Puma... but > > if ever they pull some Kapernick-like garbage like Nike did, I'll burn > > the shoes and get me some New Balance. > > New Balance has gone HORRIBLY down hill... but whatever. Why burn them > and not donate them, assuming they are in decent condition? > > > -- > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel > somehow superior by attacking the messenger. > > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. > > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> Can UTF-8 characters be concatenated into a string with a logical connection to the "real" world; that is the question posed recently by those astonished at the non-stop flood of gibberish from trolls and Cheetos smelling losers. His goal is to see me frustrated by having me get blamed for his actions. And hey, that could kill this group. Do you have a Network+ certification? Proof Snit Glasser accuses everyone of being Snit http://sandman.net/files/snit_circus.png. -- "You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about him. He clearly wants the attention" Steven Petruzzellis, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 09:12 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <e16e6ef5-ae27-4ee8-acdb-94b7fa241d5e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466364 |
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 3:39:32 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 21:21:58 +0000, RonB wrote: > > > On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Whatever they are doing it looks great. I wish Linux could do the same. > >> Take a look in BestBuy next time you are there. The Apple boxen just > >> look really good. It's easily noticeable. > > > > It's not Apple who is "doing it," it's Adobe. And Linux can't "do the > > same" > > because Adobe Photoshop is proprietary application. > > There's basically nothing that MacOS or Windows can do that Linux can't. There is also the *how* to be considered (IOW, not just the "can"). For example, there's no way I'd give up an app like Logic for doing audio work to run Linux equivalents... because there really aren't any that *are* equivalent. So, yeah, it's all about recording but the *how* in the process makes tons of difference.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 09:32 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <f00074a8-f09f-408f-9aa7-0b864051c94e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466476 |
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 9:12:24 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 3:39:32 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote: > > On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 21:21:58 +0000, RonB wrote: > > > > > On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> Whatever they are doing it looks great. I wish Linux could do the same. > > >> Take a look in BestBuy next time you are there. The Apple boxen just > > >> look really good. It's easily noticeable. > > > > > > It's not Apple who is "doing it," it's Adobe. And Linux can't "do the > > > same" > > > because Adobe Photoshop is proprietary application. > > > > There's basically nothing that MacOS or Windows can do that Linux can't. > > There is also the *how* to be considered (IOW, not just the "can"). For example, > there's no way I'd give up an app like Logic for doing audio work to run Linux > equivalents... because there really aren't any that *are* equivalent. So, yeah, > it's all about recording but the *how* in the process makes tons of difference. In fact Jonas Eklundh Communication's lies became directed at me. So obviously I regret assisting Jonas Eklundh Communication. While I am sure he liked it, he has taught me to never try to appease a troll. This is just a hobby of Jonas Eklundh Communication's. I thought showing Jonas Eklundh Communication some kindness might help the situation. It did not. Everyone is Jonas Eklundh Communication -- the oldest gag in the book. -- "You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about him. He clearly wants the attention" Steven Petruzzellis, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.
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| From | "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 21:37 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <pn43r40lua@news3.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #466476 |
On Sun, 09 Sep 2018 09:12:21 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > There is also the *how* to be considered (IOW, not just the "can"). For example, > there's no way I'd give up an app like Logic for doing audio work > What would you do if software like Logic, or Ardour for Linux, did not exist? You'd be dead in the water. You wouldn't know what the fuck to do. You wouldn't know where the fuck to begin. With GNU/Linux one can easily assemble, or create from scratch, processing workflows that are not available in ANY software package. I have done this on many occasions. But the dummy crowd, of which you are a member, is absolutely dependent on Photoshop, Logic, etc. or else they'd be as helpless as fish out of water.
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 14:47 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <0328973f-665c-4308-a47e-053222358bec@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466530 |
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 3:37:56 PM UTC-6, F. Russell wrote: > On Sun, 09 Sep 2018 09:12:21 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > > > There is also the *how* to be considered (IOW, not just the "can"). For example, > > there's no way I'd give up an app like Logic for doing audio work > > > > What would you do if software like Logic, or Ardour for Linux, > did not exist? > > You'd be dead in the water. You wouldn't know what the fuck > to do. You wouldn't know where the fuck to begin. I'd use what I still use for certain kinds of sounds, reel to reel. I've been doing this long before digital multitrack audio became affordable. > With GNU/Linux one can easily assemble, or create from > scratch, processing workflows that are not available > in ANY software package. I have done this on many > occasions. > > But the dummy crowd, of which you are a member, LOL! Said the guy who thinks "gain" and "volume" are the same thing.
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| From | "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 22:12 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <pn45sf01tf6@news2.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #466532 |
On Sun, 09 Sep 2018 14:47:19 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > Said the guy who thinks "gain" and "volume" are the same thing. > They are EXACTLY the same thing, idiot. Amplifier gain is the ratio of output to input power (or voltage) and that is exactly what "volume" specifies. In other words, adjusting the "volume" control either increases or decreases the amplifier gain. You can now choke on that tidbit of undeniable, irrefutable technical truth. Idiot.
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 15:29 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <a4af1fc6-3a62-4232-ba62-bd935982a438@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466534 |
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 4:13:20 PM UTC-6, F. Russell wrote: > On Sun, 09 Sep 2018 14:47:19 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > > > Said the guy who thinks "gain" and "volume" are the same thing. > > > > They are EXACTLY the same thing, idiot. Wrong.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 15:47 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <829a7dcd-362e-41e1-a975-be993e7eb627@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466537 |
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 3:29:09 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 4:13:20 PM UTC-6, F. Russell wrote:
> > On Sun, 09 Sep 2018 14:47:19 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Said the guy who thinks "gain" and "volume" are the same thing.
> > >
> >
> > They are EXACTLY the same thing, idiot.
>
> Wrong.
Facts about Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll
Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll will be 60 years old on August 29, 2018 and yet is still single, broke and yet with his skills he has nothing to show for it but flooding Usenet. He blames Jeff 'The Fool' Relf.Me for his loss of his wife and girlfriend and his begging of older women to sleep with him (http://www.seniorpeoplemeet.com/v3/externalsearch/singles?Profile=1AE1BDAAFC6D6F08ACA0C235BB8ED21D&Username=STEVECARROL). Steven is jealous of what Jeff 'The Fool' Relf.Me has and in a narcissistic rage repeatedly works to take it away from him. For over 10 years he has failed at even this. Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is an utter failure in life.
Of his online life Steven says
I've been booted off by past providers before because people
complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
*again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
from.
Some examples where Steven has been booted
X10 Hosting booted Steven for inappropriate activity
http://tinyurl.com/z92qmz4
Comcast booted Steven for inappropriate activity
http://tinyurl.com/h75nh9l
FreeHostingEU booted Steven for copyright infringement http://devsite.eu.pn
AwardSpace (atwebpages.com) booted Steven for breaking terms of service
http://demsites.atwebpages.com/pokeman
Imgur took down an image for breaking terms of service http://imgur.com/yv2XppE
Had a GigaNews account which was removed for harassing Jeff 'The Fool' Relf.Me
Stopped posting from his fretwizzen Google account since shortly after I complained. Seems he lost that too.
His wife booted Steven to the curb for cheating on her
Only site Steven Petruzzellis has pointed to that has ever been available
http://web.archive.org/web/20161019062351/http://www.oldneighborhoodrestaurant.net/
https://goo.gl/DMno6J
Made by the Go Daddy Website builder and is utter crap. Later he denied he said he was merely taking credit for someone else's work but Steven is the contact person http://tinyurl.com/hcw6dul
http://web.archive.org/web/20161202192456/http://www.reservationdiary.eu/eng/reservation/d76d1156-e9f7-43c1-b77b-b07189857820
He also bragged he was working on an update and showed it here https://vid.me/u6RK
The business still failed.
He likely went to the Go Daddy Website Builder after he failed to get WordPress installed.
https://mu.wordpress.org/forums/topic/13879
This is why Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll attacks Jeff 'The Fool' Relf.Me.
Steven Petruzzellis was is divorced on June 22 , 2012 at the Golden Municipal Court House because his wife caught him screwing another woman.
Jeff 'The Fool' Relf.Me is married and by all appearances happily so.
He never complains about his wife in COLA.
Steven Petruzzellis is living on charity of a friend in a single room.
Jeff 'The Fool' Relf.Me does not live in a mansion or even a high end home but has a house and a yard.
Steven Petruzzellis has two kids but no respect. He repeatedly called Ryan his "little screwup" and refers to his son Steve as a "dick" and worse. He says at least one of them likely hacked his computer and is a "mentally deficient child." He mocks his possible future daughter-in-law as someone who takes too many selfies and is focused only on herself
Jeff 'The Fool' Relf.Me has two kids (or more) and never speaks poorly of them in public.
No reason to think they are not a happy family.
Steven Petruzzellis claims to be a stay at home dad who pays thousands of dollars for day care. Steven has no job and no purpose in life. Steven has given up and now seeks a mother-figure to date.
Jeff 'The Fool' Relf.Me has his own business doing technical work and also teaches.
Jeff 'The Fool' Relf.Me offers a true contribution to society.
Teachers are truly under appreciated.
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E-commerce Simplified
http://www.5z8.info/how-to-build-a-bomb_h2o1be_peepshow
http://www.5z8.info/facebook-of-sex_w4l4wg_bomb
https://youtu.be/D_so1dvjeyI
Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 22:48 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <pn47v5023tp@news1.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #466537 |
On Sun, 09 Sep 2018 15:29:07 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: >> >> They are EXACTLY the same thing, idiot. > > Wrong. > I am not going to quibble with a retarded idiot. It doesn't matter anyway because these are just terms or jargon. What does matter are the physical concepts and those are the things of which you know nothing. That's the reason for software like Logic or Photoshop. It allows even total dummies to be productive.
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