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  Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-24 06:44 +0200
    Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-23 21:52 -0700
      Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-24 06:58 +0200
        Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-23 22:32 -0700
          Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-24 07:59 -0400
          Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-24 14:27 +0000
            Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-24 08:13 -0700
              Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-24 16:16 +0000
                Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-24 09:59 -0700
          Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-25 12:08 -0500
            Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-25 11:05 -0700
      Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-24 07:55 -0400
        Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-24 07:14 -0700
        Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-25 08:31 -0500
          Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 14:15 +0000
          Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-25 11:04 -0700
            Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 18:20 +0000
              Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-25 13:31 -0500
                Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-25 15:11 -0500
                  Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-25 13:37 -0700
                    Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-26 09:15 -0500
                      Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2016-04-26 09:23 -0500
                      Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-26 07:24 -0700
                        Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-26 13:44 -0500
                          Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-26 12:27 -0700
                            Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-26 13:13 -0700
                            Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 22:31 +0000
                              Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-27 07:59 -0500
                                Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 23:47 +0000
                                Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-28 00:09 +0000
                            Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-26 20:29 -0400
                              Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-26 17:36 -0700
                  Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-25 13:48 -0700
                  Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-25 16:50 -0400
                  Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 22:47 +0000
                    Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-25 15:59 -0700
                      Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 23:20 +0000
                        Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 23:21 +0000
                        Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-26 07:16 -0500
                          Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 22:40 +0000
                            Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-26 16:54 -0700
                            Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-27 07:00 -0500
                              Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-27 13:17 +0100
                                Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-27 10:28 -0400
                                  Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-27 18:18 +0200
                                    Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-27 17:34 +0100
                                    Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-27 13:17 -0400
                                      Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-27 21:00 +0200
                                        Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-27 15:53 -0400
                                          Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-27 22:39 +0200
                                            Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-27 17:15 -0400
                                              Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-27 23:33 +0200
                                                Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-27 18:56 -0400
                                                  Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-27 22:51 -0400
                                                Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-28 06:21 -0500
                                            Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-27 22:25 +0100
                                            Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-27 18:48 -0400
                              Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 23:49 +0000
                                Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-28 06:27 -0500
                                Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-28 07:23 -0500
                                  Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 15:34 +0000
                                    Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-28 11:30 -0500
                                      Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 18:17 +0000
                Windows Phone Free-Fall or Troll Free-For-All? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-25 17:14 -0400
                  Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall or Troll Free-For-All? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-25 14:22 -0700
                    Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall or Troll Free-For-All? ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 23:03 +0000
                      Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall or Troll Free-For-All? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-25 17:17 -0700
                        Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall or Troll Free-For-All? ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 01:02 +0000
                          Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall or Troll Free-For-All? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-25 18:29 -0700
                  Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall or Troll Free-For-All? ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 22:57 +0000
                Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 22:41 +0000
              Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-25 11:51 -0700
                Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-25 13:10 -0700
                Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 23:07 +0000
                  Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-25 16:57 -0700
            Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-26 07:15 -0700
    Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-24 08:53 +0000
      Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-24 14:35 +0000
        Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-24 18:12 +0000
          Re: Windows Phone Free-Fall May Force Microsoft To Push Harder On Windows 10 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 03:14 +0000
    Microsoft Haters are a Disease. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 04:52 -0700

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#351949

Marek Novotny wrote:

>I run with mine and it tracks the run with the GPS. It knows my heart
>rate, the elevation, speed and so on. I don't have to keep a log book
>it's all online. I keep the music updated and it keeps me motivated. If
>something happens I can call for help. A few years ago I got my front
>bike wheel stuck in a train track while doing about 30 km/ph and
>flipped. I broke my helmet, clavicle and three ribs. I bent in the left
>side of the handle bar as well. I was able to get help immediately. 

Of course, any phone suffices for emergencies, and one could argue
that a tiny flip-phone is better for joggers or bikers.

>I'm not a kid anymore, so it's not out of the question to have a heart
>attack or something. Hell, I had that pulmonary embolism in November. So
>shit happens. I used to stay in touch with my family while I was in the
>hospital. 
>
>You should get one. You'll love it. 

I might.  ATT has told me that my 2G phone will no longer work, come
December.  Also, my old Canon Powershot S3 camera has stopped working,
and I need *some* sort of camera.  It could be argued that it's the
ideal time for me to make the leap.

On the other hand, I really have no desire to carry a phone around,
all the time.

I would probably get the Nexus 6P.  I like the idea of a "clean"
Android experience, and the superior update policy.

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#351952

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote:
> 
>> I run with mine and it tracks the run with the GPS. It knows my heart
>> rate, the elevation, speed and so on. I don't have to keep a log book
>> it's all online. I keep the music updated and it keeps me motivated. If
>> something happens I can call for help. A few years ago I got my front
>> bike wheel stuck in a train track while doing about 30 km/ph and
>> flipped. I broke my helmet, clavicle and three ribs. I bent in the left
>> side of the handle bar as well. I was able to get help immediately. 
> 
> Of course, any phone suffices for emergencies, and one could argue
> that a tiny flip-phone is better for joggers or bikers.
> 
>> I'm not a kid anymore, so it's not out of the question to have a heart
>> attack or something. Hell, I had that pulmonary embolism in November. So
>> shit happens. I used to stay in touch with my family while I was in the
>> hospital. 
>> 
>> You should get one. You'll love it. 
> 
> I might.  ATT has told me that my 2G phone will no longer work, come
> December.  Also, my old Canon Powershot S3 camera has stopped working,
> and I need *some* sort of camera.  It could be argued that it's the
> ideal time for me to make the leap.
> 
> On the other hand, I really have no desire to carry a phone around,
> all the time.
> 
> I would probably get the Nexus 6P.  I like the idea of a "clean"
> Android experience, and the superior update policy.
> 

I have the Nexus 5X and it is very sweet.  Not loaded with the bloat ware
that seems so prevalent on most brands of Android phones.  And
reports/reviews of the Nexus 6P are excellent.  Both phones are very nice,
and being totally unlocked makes it even better.

-- 
Lloyd

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#351953

On 2016-04-26, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote:
>
>>I run with mine and it tracks the run with the GPS. It knows my heart
>>rate, the elevation, speed and so on. I don't have to keep a log book
>>it's all online. I keep the music updated and it keeps me motivated. If
>>something happens I can call for help. A few years ago I got my front
>>bike wheel stuck in a train track while doing about 30 km/ph and
>>flipped. I broke my helmet, clavicle and three ribs. I bent in the left
>>side of the handle bar as well. I was able to get help immediately. 
>
> Of course, any phone suffices for emergencies, and one could argue
> that a tiny flip-phone is better for joggers or bikers.
>
>>I'm not a kid anymore, so it's not out of the question to have a heart
>>attack or something. Hell, I had that pulmonary embolism in November. So
>>shit happens. I used to stay in touch with my family while I was in the
>>hospital. 
>>
>>You should get one. You'll love it. 
>
> I might.  ATT has told me that my 2G phone will no longer work, come
> December.  Also, my old Canon Powershot S3 camera has stopped working,
> and I need *some* sort of camera.  It could be argued that it's the
> ideal time for me to make the leap.
>
> On the other hand, I really have no desire to carry a phone around,
> all the time.
>
> I would probably get the Nexus 6P.  I like the idea of a "clean"
> Android experience, and the superior update policy.

That's a big phone. You might try something with a screen size around
4.3 or 4.7 inches first. I went from the iPhone 4S to the Galaxy Note,
the first edition. It was weirdly huge for me. Then I went back to
smaller phones. The Motorola mid tier phone, damn forgot what is was
called, was a 4.3" and one of the best Android phones I ever had. 

I had a Nexus 5 which is also quite good. I agree though; If you're
going to go Android it should be a Nexus. Samsung's Edge phones are
pretty cool though. They do some good creative work. And since they are
so high profile they do tend to fix bugs. But sometimes their fixes make
things worse. The Nexus line is a good choice. Or maybe a One plus two.
They do excellent work as well. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#352004

Marek Novotny wrote:

>> I would probably get the Nexus 6P.  I like the idea of a "clean"
>> Android experience, and the superior update policy.
>
>That's a big phone. You might try something with a screen size around
>4.3 or 4.7 inches first

That's a good point.  Thinking on that point, I like what I've read
about the iPhone SE, with it's 4" display.  I'm feeling a bit better
about Apple, since their stand against the government.

I understand that with the new iPhones, one does not need to use a PC
with iTunes.  Needing to use iTunes would be a deal-breaker, for me.

-- 
"So sorry, but Vista is a big sales and financial success for MS - and
will shortly finish wiping the floor with Linux and it's 392 free
distros."  -  DumFSck

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#352017

On 2016-04-26, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote:
>
>>> I would probably get the Nexus 6P.  I like the idea of a "clean"
>>> Android experience, and the superior update policy.
>>
>>That's a big phone. You might try something with a screen size around
>>4.3 or 4.7 inches first
>
> That's a good point.  Thinking on that point, I like what I've read
> about the iPhone SE, with it's 4" display.  I'm feeling a bit better
> about Apple, since their stand against the government.
>
> I understand that with the new iPhones, one does not need to use a PC
> with iTunes.  Needing to use iTunes would be a deal-breaker, for me.

I myself use an iPhone. This is my 5th one I believe. I had teh first
one, which was Edge. Then the 3G. Then I went HTC for 4G, then went
Windows Mobile with the Q, then back to the iPhone 4, then a 4s, then
lots of Androids, then the 6. So this is my fifth one. They are pretty
good, no need for iTunes at all. You can do everything you need to
manage it right on the phone itself. 

And yeah, just cause it ain't Linux at the core doesn't mean jack shit.
I don't like Google selling my data and pitching ads to me all day.
Nothing at all wrong with getting an iPhone. Get what does the job for
you. You'll like it. It has all the apps you'll want. If you have a
problem its so high profile that Apple will take care of you. They don't
want to see pissed off people writing bad blogs about them. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#352019

On 4/26/16, 12:27 PM, in article
QqadnTyRavmRXILKnZ2dnUU7-W3NnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny"
<marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:

>> That's a good point.  Thinking on that point, I like what I've read
>> about the iPhone SE, with it's 4" display.  I'm feeling a bit better
>> about Apple, since their stand against the government.
>> 
>> I understand that with the new iPhones, one does not need to use a PC
>> with iTunes.  Needing to use iTunes would be a deal-breaker, for me.
> 
> I myself use an iPhone. This is my 5th one I believe. I had teh first
> one, which was Edge. Then the 3G. Then I went HTC for 4G, then went
> Windows Mobile with the Q, then back to the iPhone 4, then a 4s, then
> lots of Androids, then the 6. So this is my fifth one. They are pretty
> good, no need for iTunes at all. You can do everything you need to
> manage it right on the phone itself.
> 
> And yeah, just cause it ain't Linux at the core doesn't mean jack shit.
> I don't like Google selling my data and pitching ads to me all day.
> Nothing at all wrong with getting an iPhone. Get what does the job for
> you. You'll like it. It has all the apps you'll want. If you have a
> problem its so high profile that Apple will take care of you. They don't
> want to see pissed off people writing bad blogs about them.

No doubt Apple makes high quality products and has tech service that is
second to none.


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#352052

On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 12:27:08 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:

> And yeah, just cause it ain't Linux at the core doesn't mean jack shit.
> I don't like Google selling my data and pitching ads to me all day.
> Nothing at all wrong with getting an iPhone. Get what does the job for
> you. You'll like it. It has all the apps you'll want. If you have a
> problem its so high profile that Apple will take care of you. They don't
> want to see pissed off people writing bad blogs about them.

I don't like Apple or even Google (anymore). I'm kind of surprised that I 
find myself not caring one way or the other. My wife came to me and said 
she was thinking -- maybe -- her next phone would be an iPhone. I just 
said "that would be fine." She looked at me, "Seriously?" I even went 
into an Apple store with her. She wasn't all that impressed 6 Plus. Still 
kind of likes her Galaxy Note -- even uses the stylus (or whatever it's 
called) on a regular basis. Since she carries her phone in her purse, 
"too big" doesn't mean anything to her. But if she decides on an iPhone 
for her next phone, that's fine with me.

I would still like to find something different. Blackberry, Sailfish, 
Ubuntu (but not Windows) ... something else (so long as it runs 
Evernote). 

-- 
Zero tolerance for WinDrones and iCultists

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#352168

ronb wrote:

>I don't like Apple or even Google (anymore). I'm kind of surprised that I 
>find myself not caring one way or the other. 

There is no avoiding the evil businessman.  They are *everywhere*.  

As long as the market has something resembling a level playing field,
they tend to keep each other in check, while doing a reasonable job of
serving the interests of society.

>My wife came to me and said 
>she was thinking -- maybe -- her next phone would be an iPhone. I just 
>said "that would be fine." She looked at me, "Seriously?" I even went 
>into an Apple store with her. She wasn't all that impressed 6 Plus. Still 
>kind of likes her Galaxy Note -- even uses the stylus (or whatever it's 
>called) on a regular basis. Since she carries her phone in her purse, 
>"too big" doesn't mean anything to her.

Yeah, if I had a purse, it be "the bigger the better".

Where do guys keep their phones, anyway?  I've never really paid
attention.

-- 
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claim!"  -  some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it
lying)

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#352295

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 07:59:43 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> Where do guys keep their phones, anyway?  I've never really paid
> attention.

Mine is small enough to fit in my pant's pocket. When I carried the Palm 
Treo I had a Ripoff (brand) case that clipped on my belt. 

-- 
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#352299

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> ronb wrote:
> 
>>kind of likes her Galaxy Note -- even uses the stylus (or whatever it's 
>>called) on a regular basis. Since she carries her phone in her purse, 
>>"too big" doesn't mean anything to her.
> 
> Yeah, if I had a purse, it be "the bigger the better".
> 

Y'all not carrying those anymore?

> Where do guys keep their phones, anyway?  I've never really paid
> attention.
> 

I keep mine on the hook usually.  Where do you girls keep yours?

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#352090

Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2016-04-26, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Marek Novotny wrote:
>>
>>>> I would probably get the Nexus 6P.  I like the idea of a "clean"
>>>> Android experience, and the superior update policy.
>>>
>>>That's a big phone. You might try something with a screen size around
>>>4.3 or 4.7 inches first
>>
>> That's a good point.  Thinking on that point, I like what I've read
>> about the iPhone SE, with it's 4" display.  I'm feeling a bit better
>> about Apple, since their stand against the government.
>>
>> I understand that with the new iPhones, one does not need to use a PC
>> with iTunes.  Needing to use iTunes would be a deal-breaker, for me.
>
> I myself use an iPhone. This is my 5th one I believe. I had teh first
> one, which was Edge. Then the 3G. Then I went HTC for 4G, then went
> Windows Mobile with the Q, then back to the iPhone 4, then a 4s, then
> lots of Androids, then the 6. So this is my fifth one. They are pretty
> good, no need for iTunes at all. You can do everything you need to
> manage it right on the phone itself. 
>
> And yeah, just cause it ain't Linux at the core doesn't mean jack shit.
> I don't like Google selling my data and pitching ads to me all day.
> Nothing at all wrong with getting an iPhone. Get what does the job for
> you. You'll like it. It has all the apps you'll want. If you have a
> problem its so high profile that Apple will take care of you. They don't
> want to see pissed off people writing bad blogs about them. 

Never seen the need for an iPhone, myself.  To some extent, it is just a
lead-in to iTunes, like Android is a lead in to targeted advertising.
A lot of people use the iPhone, so there's some pressure to toe the line
("you need an iPhone to Facetime with so-and-so").

I like being able to choose the hardware vendor.  My first was the
Droid Razr Maxx, which I liked a *lot*, now I have a Samsung S5, which is
even better.  My next might be a Nexus, we shall see.

I laugh when I see people with iPhones clad in thick plastic covers that
turn their slim little phone into an ugly-looking brick.  What would
Steve Jobs say? Why can't phone vendors build durability into their units?

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#352092

On 2016-04-27, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2016-04-26, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I would probably get the Nexus 6P.  I like the idea of a "clean"
>>>>> Android experience, and the superior update policy.
>>>>
>>>>That's a big phone. You might try something with a screen size around
>>>>4.3 or 4.7 inches first
>>>
>>> That's a good point.  Thinking on that point, I like what I've read
>>> about the iPhone SE, with it's 4" display.  I'm feeling a bit better
>>> about Apple, since their stand against the government.
>>>
>>> I understand that with the new iPhones, one does not need to use a PC
>>> with iTunes.  Needing to use iTunes would be a deal-breaker, for me.
>>
>> I myself use an iPhone. This is my 5th one I believe. I had teh first
>> one, which was Edge. Then the 3G. Then I went HTC for 4G, then went
>> Windows Mobile with the Q, then back to the iPhone 4, then a 4s, then
>> lots of Androids, then the 6. So this is my fifth one. They are pretty
>> good, no need for iTunes at all. You can do everything you need to
>> manage it right on the phone itself. 
>>
>> And yeah, just cause it ain't Linux at the core doesn't mean jack shit.
>> I don't like Google selling my data and pitching ads to me all day.
>> Nothing at all wrong with getting an iPhone. Get what does the job for
>> you. You'll like it. It has all the apps you'll want. If you have a
>> problem its so high profile that Apple will take care of you. They don't
>> want to see pissed off people writing bad blogs about them. 
>
> Never seen the need for an iPhone, myself.  To some extent, it is just a
> lead-in to iTunes, like Android is a lead in to targeted advertising.
> A lot of people use the iPhone, so there's some pressure to toe the line
> ("you need an iPhone to Facetime with so-and-so").
>
> I like being able to choose the hardware vendor.  My first was the
> Droid Razr Maxx, which I liked a *lot*, now I have a Samsung S5, which is
> even better.  My next might be a Nexus, we shall see.
>
> I laugh when I see people with iPhones clad in thick plastic covers that
> turn their slim little phone into an ugly-looking brick.  What would
> Steve Jobs say? Why can't phone vendors build durability into their units?

People do that with their Android's too. But yeah it is kind of funny.
have a very slim soft gel wrap that makes my phone less slippery.
Otherwise it tends to slip out of my pocket. 

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https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#351821

On 4/25/16, 1:11 PM, in article mbushb1cjqtol2vj9c1hkdhot5gupeargq@4ax.com,
"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
> 
>> ronb wrote:
>>> 
>>> (I'm currently using a Motorola
>>> Admiral, but it's getting long in the tooth and its version of Android --
>>> 2.3.5 -- is pretty much dead.)
>> 
>> Is that the one with the rotary dial?   8)
> 
> I shouldn't talk.  I have a flip-phone.

I did... but my 6-7 year old flip phone had its hinge crack. Still worked
but decided I had to upgrade... now can join the modern world and text. Sort
of. The touch screen is so bad it makes it a pain. :)


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#351823

On 4/25/2016 4:11 PM, shit("Shit I can't believe how much I tell shit 
lies about DFS")v wrote:

> "The Linux/OSS community is totally AGAINST freedom of choice - unless
> it's the choices they deem acceptable."  -  Dumfsck, lying shamelessly


Only YOU are the lying pile of shit, turd:


==============================================================================
Fraud 7: "Appile should be actively barred from all schools"
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7cbc23034609637f?hl=en&dmode=source


Marti: "Non-Free proprietary applications should not be included in 
*any* GNU/Linux distribution by default."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b50fa67489ff74a9?hl=en&dmode=source


"The government has had a history of desiring more than one source for 
their systems and Windows shouldn't be a choice."
#22 at http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=43629.0


mlw: "It has to be Linux or BSD....or something, just get rid of 
Windows.  It doesn't matter, Mac, BSD, or Linux, geez, ANYTHING but 
Windows!"
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/bd7ba1c950da917b?hl=en&dmode=source


"windows shouldn't be a choice for anyone mang"
http://www.irclog.org/freenode/suse/2006-06-19/page4.html


"I'm a Unix/Linux guy... MS Windows should not be allowed in a business 
environment."
http://www.thegearpage.net/board//showpost.php?p=15072408&postcount=8


"Microsoft should not be allowed to bake Windows into silicon and CMOS 
(or equivalents)."
http://techrights.org/2013/03/12/nice-work-if-you-can-get-it/


"Linux should not support non-free modules"
http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.misc.discuss/msg/e7c64b946b80ded4?hl=en&dmode=source


"Windows shouldn't be allowed on a network."
Chris Ahlstrom May 2015
<mjv3s0$r8i$5@dont-email.me>

==============================================================================


Was I not clear before?  Let's repeat it:

The Linux/OSS community is totally AGAINST freedom of choice - unless 
it's the choices they deem acceptable.

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#351845

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 15:11:57 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
> 
>> ronb wrote:
>>>
>>>(I'm currently using a Motorola Admiral, but it's getting long in the
>>>tooth and its version of Android --
>>>2.3.5 -- is pretty much dead.)
>>
>> Is that the one with the rotary dial?   8)
> 
> I shouldn't talk.  I have a flip-phone.

I like flip phones. More to the point when wanting to make a call -- 
which is still the main purpose for phones ... in my outdated opinion.

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#351846

On 2016-04-25, ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 15:11:57 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>> 
>>> ronb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>(I'm currently using a Motorola Admiral, but it's getting long in the
>>>>tooth and its version of Android --
>>>>2.3.5 -- is pretty much dead.)
>>>
>>> Is that the one with the rotary dial?   8)
>> 
>> I shouldn't talk.  I have a flip-phone.
>
> I like flip phones. More to the point when wanting to make a call -- 
> which is still the main purpose for phones ... in my outdated opinion.

That might just become outdated. I have to admit, if I add up all the
time I spend using a smart phone and a talking device it's actually a
teeny tiny part of my use of it. It's really a personal computer, not at
all unlike those I read about in SciFi books.  

Can't remember the book off the top of my head, but I remember the
author describing what he called a PalmComp, which was a computer that
everyone had and you held it in the palm of your hand. And by all
descriptions of its use in the novel it is very much been realized by
our current smart phones. 

The PalmComp was even the defacto communications device, like a smart
phone. 

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https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#351855

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 15:59:01 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:

> On 2016-04-25, ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 15:11:57 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ronb wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>(I'm currently using a Motorola Admiral, but it's getting long in the
>>>>>tooth and its version of Android --
>>>>>2.3.5 -- is pretty much dead.)
>>>>
>>>> Is that the one with the rotary dial?   8)
>>> 
>>> I shouldn't talk.  I have a flip-phone.
>>
>> I like flip phones. More to the point when wanting to make a call --
>> which is still the main purpose for phones ... in my outdated opinion.
> 
> That might just become outdated. I have to admit, if I add up all the
> time I spend using a smart phone and a talking device it's actually a
> teeny tiny part of my use of it. It's really a personal computer, not at
> all unlike those I read about in SciFi books.
> 
> Can't remember the book off the top of my head, but I remember the
> author describing what he called a PalmComp, which was a computer that
> everyone had and you held it in the palm of your hand. And by all
> descriptions of its use in the novel it is very much been realized by
> our current smart phones.
> 
> The PalmComp was even the defacto communications device, like a smart
> phone.

I know. My kids almost never call their friends. It's almost all texting 
or online chatting -- and I admit I text quite a bit now (but that can be 
done a flip phone).

My wife, on the other hand, runs a big part of her business on her Galaxy 
Note. Facebook, texting, email -- always turns on navigation when goes to 
a client's house, etc. For her it's an indispensable tool. So I know I'm 
in the minority. And, to be honest, I probably do use the smartphone more 
than I think. I play pinochle on it, or read on the Kindle app when I 
have to wait somewhere ... and I do this fairly often. 

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#351857

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 23:20:44 +0000, ronb wrote:

> I know. My kids almost never call their friends. It's almost all texting
> or online chatting

Not to mention web browsing, or watching something on Youtube, or 
streaming music.

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#351938

ronb wrote:

>I know. My kids almost never call their friends. It's almost all texting 
>or online chatting -- and I admit I text quite a bit now (but that can be 
>done a flip phone).

Yeah, that's what I use my old flip-phone for, mostly.  It's the
preferred method to communicate with my daughter (who has a Galaxy
S6).  Tapping three times to get a 'c' isn't the most efficient, but
it gets the job done.

Funny world, we live in.

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intolerant bigots and bullies who think that YELLING LOUDER is the way
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#352057

On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 07:16:32 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> ronb wrote:
> 
>>I know. My kids almost never call their friends. It's almost all texting
>>or online chatting -- and I admit I text quite a bit now (but that can
>>be done a flip phone).
> 
> Yeah, that's what I use my old flip-phone for, mostly.  It's the
> preferred method to communicate with my daughter (who has a Galaxy S6). 
> Tapping three times to get a 'c' isn't the most efficient, but it gets
> the job done.
> 
> Funny world, we live in.

You don't use something like T9word? (I thought this was built in to most 
flip phones.) It basically anticipates what you're going to type. It 
almost always gets the words right first shot. For example, if I want to 
type "how" I just hit the numbers 4-6-9 and unscrambles them with 
suggestions ("how" is the first) and then I just hit the number sign "#" 
for a space and type in the next word. It's almost as fast as using a 
QWERTY keyboard. So texting on a flip phone would not be an issue -- 
although I do use text to speech on the Admiral when I'm by myself. 
Amazingly accurate now.)

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