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For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II

Started byFabian Russell <fb@zen.info>
First post2016-05-27 10:58 +0000
Last post2016-05-31 16:55 +1000
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  For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-27 10:58 +0000
    Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 04:24 -0700
      Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-05-27 12:40 +0100
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 05:10 -0700
          Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-27 22:08 +0000
            Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-05-27 17:15 -0600
            Linux fonts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-05-28 13:02 +0000
              Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-05-28 16:25 +0000
                Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-28 12:49 -0400
                Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-05-28 13:22 -0400
                  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-31 07:13 -0500
              Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 05:11 +0000
                Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 01:03 -0700
                  Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 10:19 +0000
                    I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 05:53 -0700
                      Re: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts". "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 21:34 +0000
                        Re: Mr. O.W.L's terminal can mix and match random FontGlyphs. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 22:43 +0000
                          Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 00:37 +0000
                            Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-29 18:27 -0700
                              Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 02:13 +0000
                                Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-29 21:23 -0700
                                Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-05-30 08:28 -0400
                                  Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 09:19 -0700
                                  Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 16:26 +0000
                                    Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-30 11:00 -0700
                                      Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 19:04 +0000
                                        Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-30 12:29 -0700
                            Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-30 15:06 +0000
                            Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 16:10 +0000
                        Re: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts". chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-31 07:02 -0500
                  Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 11:09 +0000
                    Octavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 05:44 -0700
                      Re: Octavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 21:40 +0000
                    Re: Jeff Ralf's facade/lies have been exposed. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-05-29 16:20 +0000
                      Scott Doty can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 10:27 -0700
                      Re: Jeff Ralf's facade/lies have been exposed. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 22:29 +0000
                        Re: "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP" is a Visual C++ console, really. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 01:03 +0000
                  Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-30 14:56 +0000
                    Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-05-30 16:38 -0400
                Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 17:42 -0400
                  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 21:52 +0000
                    Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 17:56 -0400
                      Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 22:06 +0000
                        Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 18:28 -0400
                          Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 22:33 +0000
                            Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 18:56 -0400
                              Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 23:26 +0000
                                Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-06-01 10:08 -0400
                              Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-30 16:55 -0700
                    Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-05-31 05:28 -0400
                      Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-05-31 10:53 +0100
                        Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-06-01 10:08 -0400
                          Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-06-01 07:59 -0700
                            Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-06-01 11:15 -0400
                            Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-06-01 12:40 -0400
                              Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-06-01 10:31 -0700
                                Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-06-01 20:56 -0400
                                  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-06-01 18:12 -0700
                                  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-06-01 18:23 -0700
                                    Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-06-02 05:49 -0400
                                  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-06-02 09:05 -0500
                                    Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-06-02 11:22 -0500
                                      Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-06-07 16:39 -0500
                              Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-06-07 16:37 -0500
                                Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-06-08 00:51 +0200
                                  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-06-07 16:07 -0700
                                  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-06-07 19:39 -0500
                                    Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-06-08 10:47 +0200
            Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 17:41 -0400
    Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-27 14:16 +0200
    Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-27 11:18 -0400
      Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-27 22:11 +0000
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-05-27 17:16 -0600
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-27 19:24 -0400
    Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-05-28 14:24 +0000
      Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-28 14:57 +0000
    Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> - 2016-05-30 12:02 +1000
      Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-30 04:45 +0000
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-30 10:30 +0200
      Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-30 05:01 +0000
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 12:47 -0400
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> - 2016-05-31 16:53 +1000
      Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-05-30 08:27 -0400
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-30 13:38 +0000
        Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> - 2016-05-31 16:55 +1000

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#357740 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-05-29 21:23 -0700
SubjectRe: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
Message-ID<D3710E3F.741D0%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#357738
On 5/29/16, 7:13 PM, in article gjadkf98a.f94g@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:

...
>>> Linux distros have *tons* of things that Windows 10 lacks,
>>> not the least of which is a powerful command shell.  Sure,
>>> you can jump through hoops and install some of that stuff
>>> on Windows, but why put yourself through that hassle?
>> 
>> You say the shell is not the least of such things.
>> 
>> Can you show some of the other things? Would love to see how desktop Linux
>> serves you better than the competition!
>> 
> 
> The shell is the shell, and it is extremely powerful in its own right,
> aside from all the powerful utilities that run in the shell.  And this
> of course doesn't even touch the magnificence that is X11, as you well
> know.

The command line and related tools Linux and UNIX offer are great... no
argument here. As far as X11 and the associated tools, for a desktop it does
not really impress me.

>>>> I rely on the Lua Script I wrote for my Logitech g600 mouse,
>>>> for example; Linux has no such thing.  Details:
>>>> 
>>>>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
>>>>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
>>> 
>>> A little googling shows that people have successfully programmed
>>> all the buttons on that mouse under Linux.
>> 
>> Would love to see it.
> 
> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+program+logitech+g600

Have seen the first several that come up under such a search... was hoping
for something better. Thank you.
 
>> Here is how I configure mine on a competing system:
>> 
>> <https://youtu.be/sdSiYE7lbQI>
> 
> That's not a logitech g600.

Correct. It is a Logitech MX518. Same software works with the G600, though.

> And you're using the vendor's software.

Incorrect. I am using Steermouse: <http://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/>

I am still on the older v4. Will play with v5 and likely get it.

>> Works great for me. I have asked others if you can do this on Linux and they
>> seem to have no answer... just say programming mice is "idiotic" and leads
>> to forcing people to single-task in some way they cannot describe. Weird.
> 
> My gripe is that some of these mice have so many buttons that they
> may as well have a QWERTY layout.

Agreed. I use the non-standard top buttons some, the scroll+press up and
down fairly often, and the previous / next buttons all the time... but I
cannot see the need for more. Still, to each their own.

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#357755 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

FromTattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer>
Date2016-05-30 08:28 -0400
SubjectRe: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
Message-ID<xm8siajbxx29.dlg@tattoovampire.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#357738
Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:

> My gripe is that some of these mice have so many buttons that they
> may as well have a QWERTY layout.

No shit. Someone I work with has a Microsoft mouse with about a gazillion
buttons on it. Sometimes you accidentally hit one just trying to do a left
or right click. Gimme two buttons and keyboard shortcuts any day.

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#357770 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-30 09:19 -0700
SubjectRe: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
Message-ID<7bab8612-b3e5-4882-8361-27a2642b3a9b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#357755
On Monday, May 30, 2016 at 6:28:20 AM UTC-6, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
> 
> > My gripe is that some of these mice have so many buttons that they
> > may as well have a QWERTY layout.
> 
> No shit. Someone I work with has a Microsoft mouse with about a gazillion
> buttons on it. Sometimes you accidentally hit one just trying to do a left
> or right click. Gimme two buttons and keyboard shortcuts any day.

Agree... if I want some 'chording' I'll pick up my guitar.

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#357771 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-30 16:26 +0000
SubjectRe: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
Message-ID<kkafj303f.g4@perch.invalid>
In reply to#357755
Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> wrote:
> Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
> 
>> My gripe is that some of these mice have so many buttons that they
>> may as well have a QWERTY layout.
> 
> No shit. Someone I work with has a Microsoft mouse with about a gazillion
> buttons on it. Sometimes you accidentally hit one just trying to do a left
> or right click. Gimme two buttons and keyboard shortcuts any day.

Middle button is good for not having to press right and left together
for paste.  I've also gotten used to having it as a scroll wheel.

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#357782 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-05-30 11:00 -0700
SubjectRe: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
Message-ID<D371CDE1.7421E%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#357771
On 5/30/16, 9:26 AM, in article kkafj303f.g4@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:

> Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> wrote:
>> Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
>> 
>>> My gripe is that some of these mice have so many buttons that they
>>> may as well have a QWERTY layout.
>> 
>> No shit. Someone I work with has a Microsoft mouse with about a gazillion
>> buttons on it. Sometimes you accidentally hit one just trying to do a left
>> or right click. Gimme two buttons and keyboard shortcuts any day.
> 
> Middle button is good for not having to press right and left together
> for paste.  I've also gotten used to having it as a scroll wheel.
> 
I use middle click to open links in new tabs and to "hide / show" in various
programs.


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#357787 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-30 19:04 +0000
SubjectRe: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
Message-ID<fhjgaod93.auv41@perch.invalid>
In reply to#357782
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 5/30/16, 9:26 AM, in article kkafj303f.g4@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
> Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> wrote:
>>> Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
>>> 
>>>> My gripe is that some of these mice have so many buttons that they
>>>> may as well have a QWERTY layout.
>>> 
>>> No shit. Someone I work with has a Microsoft mouse with about a gazillion
>>> buttons on it. Sometimes you accidentally hit one just trying to do a left
>>> or right click. Gimme two buttons and keyboard shortcuts any day.
>> 
>> Middle button is good for not having to press right and left together
>> for paste.  I've also gotten used to having it as a scroll wheel.
>> 
> I use middle click to open links in new tabs

So do I.

> and to "hide / show" in various
> programs.
> 

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#357790 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-05-30 12:29 -0700
SubjectRe: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
Message-ID<D371E2A2.74232%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#357787
On 5/30/16, 12:04 PM, in article fhjgaod93.auv41@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 5/30/16, 9:26 AM, in article kkafj303f.g4@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
>> Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> wrote:
>>>> Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> My gripe is that some of these mice have so many buttons that they
>>>>> may as well have a QWERTY layout.
>>>> 
>>>> No shit. Someone I work with has a Microsoft mouse with about a gazillion
>>>> buttons on it. Sometimes you accidentally hit one just trying to do a left
>>>> or right click. Gimme two buttons and keyboard shortcuts any day.
>>> 
>>> Middle button is good for not having to press right and left together
>>> for paste.  I've also gotten used to having it as a scroll wheel.
>>> 
>> I use middle click to open links in new tabs
> 
> So do I.

Yes: I know on Linux you can do that.

>> and to "hide / show" in various programs.

This is an important use to me. In video programs it shows the full
timeline, in image editing programs it shows / hides grids or other
overlays, in email and Usenet and RSS readers it shows / hides read
messages.

Not saying there is anything wrong with the copy / paste of Linux - but as
far as I know it is hard to get out of that if you do not want. Also, I have
a clipboard manager and would not want everything I selected to be
automatically copied into it.


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#357766 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-05-30 15:06 +0000
SubjectRe: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
Message-ID<nihkt8$6ch$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#357730
Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> writes:

>You ( Mr. O.W.L ) replied ( to me ):

>> A little googling shows that people have successfully programmed
>> all the buttons on that mouse under Linux.
>> 
>> lua is available for linux, but you won't need it to program the
>> mouse.  There already exist utilities for binding xevents.  

>Has anyone assigned Ctl, Shift, and AltShift to buttons ?
>Assigned things to gShift LeftClick ?
>What about RightClick, Pause, 'q' ?

>Even if someone has, 
>is it in a single Lua script, like my "g600.TXT" ?

Much of this depends on the company behind the mouse rather than Linux
vs. Windows.  Do they follow a standard protocol for mouse buttons? (Is 
there even a standard protocol that covers a zillion mouse buttons?) Or
do they do something proprietary?  (And esp. if proprietary) Did they
release Linux drivers or code examples applicable to Linux (or Mac FWIW)?
Or did they cheap out and spend money only to develop a Windows driver?

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#357768 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-30 16:10 +0000
SubjectRe: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
Message-ID<godis93.jgia8@perch.invalid>
In reply to#357730
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> You ( Mr. O.W.L ) replied ( to me ):
> > > I rely on the Lua Script I wrote for my Logitech g600 mouse,
> > > for example; Linux has no such thing.  Details:
> > > 
> > >   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
> > >   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
> > 
> > A little googling shows that people have successfully programmed
> > all the buttons on that mouse under Linux.
> > 
> > lua is available for linux, but you won't need it to program the
> > mouse.  There already exist utilities for binding xevents.  
> 
> Has anyone assigned Ctl, Shift, and AltShift to buttons ?
> Assigned things to gShift LeftClick ?

Probably.  From what I've read, it looks like everything is
easy enough except for the gShift.  The scancodes generated
are the same whether the gShift is down or not.  Apparently
you'll need to boot into windows and change g600 "profiles"
or whatever, so that different codes are generated, so that
this state can then be detected under linux.  IOW, you can
do it, but preliminaries have to be dealt with under windows
first.

> What about RightClick, Pause, 'q' ?
> 
> Even if someone has, 
> is it in a single Lua script, like my "g600.TXT" ?
> 

I doubt it.  I believe your lua script talks to the LGS software.
Does that matter?

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#357851 — Re: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts".

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-05-31 07:02 -0500
SubjectRe: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts".
Message-ID<f9vqkbpgilp958jmpd4j0ln47sno39bp73@4ax.com>
In reply to#357721
Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:

> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:

*plonk*

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#357707 — Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-29 11:09 +0000
SubjectRe: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.
Message-ID<hgjvnbm.mckf93@perch.invalid>
In reply to#357703
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
>> What do you know about Linux ?
> 
> Much more than you and Scotty Doty, apparently.
> Scott Doty's façade/lies have been exposed.
> 
> "DejaVu Sans Mono" has no Asian glyphs, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
> [ 'ツ' is katakana, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is a kaomoji ]
> 
> It has no doubleWide glyphs;
> instead, it has a narrow set of crude, HalfHeight glyphs.
> Too crude, "MS Mincho" is _much_ better.
> 

This terminal is using Dejavu sans mono book:

anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 130E0 131BF
𓃠 𓃡 𓃢 𓃣 𓃤 𓃥 𓃦 𓃧 𓃨 𓃩 𓃪 𓃫 𓃬 𓃭 𓃮 𓃯 𓃰 𓃱 𓃲 𓃳 𓃴 𓃵 𓃶 𓃷 𓃸 𓃹 𓃺 𓃻 𓃼 𓃽 𓃾 𓃿 𓄀 𓄁 𓄂 𓄃 𓄄 𓄅 𓄆 𓄇 𓄈 𓄉 𓄊 𓄋 𓄌 𓄍 𓄎 𓄏 𓄐 𓄑 𓄒 𓄓 𓄔 𓄕 𓄖 𓄗 𓄘 𓄙 𓄚 𓄛 𓄜 𓄝 𓄞 𓄟 𓄠 𓄡 𓄢 𓄣 𓄤 𓄥 𓄦 𓄧 𓄨 𓄩 𓄪 𓄫 𓄬 𓄭 𓄮 𓄯 𓄰 𓄱 𓄲 𓄳 𓄴 𓄵 𓄶 𓄷 𓄸 𓄹 𓄺 𓄻 𓄼 𓄽 𓄾 𓄿 𓅀 𓅁 𓅂 𓅃 𓅄 𓅅 𓅆 𓅇 𓅈 𓅉 𓅊 𓅋 𓅌 𓅍 𓅎 𓅏 𓅐 𓅑 𓅒 𓅓 𓅔 𓅕 𓅖 𓅗 𓅘 𓅙 𓅚 𓅛 𓅜 𓅝 𓅞 𓅟 𓅠 𓅡 𓅢 𓅣 𓅤 𓅥 𓅦 𓅧 𓅨 𓅩 𓅪 𓅫 𓅬 𓅭 𓅮 𓅯 𓅰 𓅱 𓅲 𓅳 𓅴 𓅵 𓅶 𓅷 𓅸 𓅹 𓅺 𓅻 𓅼 𓅽 𓅾 𓅿 𓆀 𓆁 𓆂 𓆃 𓆄 𓆅 𓆆 𓆇 𓆈 𓆉 𓆊 𓆋 𓆌 𓆍 𓆎 𓆏 𓆐 𓆑 𓆒 𓆓 𓆔 𓆕 𓆖 𓆗 𓆘 𓆙 𓆚 𓆛 𓆜 𓆝 𓆞 𓆟 𓆠 𓆡 𓆢 𓆣 𓆤 𓆥 𓆦 𓆧 𓆨 𓆩 𓆪 𓆫 𓆬 𓆭 𓆮 𓆯 𓆰 𓆱 𓆲 𓆳 𓆴 𓆵 𓆶 𓆷 𓆸 𓆹 𓆺 𓆻 𓆼 𓆽 𓆾 𓆿 
anon@lowtide:~$ 
anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 5400 54FF
吀 吁 吂 吃 各 吅 吆 吇 合 吉 吊 吋 同 名 后 吏 吐 向 吒 吓 吔 吕 吖 吗 吘 吙 吚 君 吜 吝 吞 吟 吠 吡 吢 吣 吤 吥 否 吧 吨 吩 吪 含 听 吭 吮 启 吰 吱 吲 吳 吴 吵 吶 吷 吸 吹 吺 吻 吼 吽 吾 吿 呀 呁 呂 呃 呄 呅 呆 呇 呈 呉 告 呋 呌 呍 呎 呏 呐 呑 呒 呓 呔 呕 呖 呗 员 呙 呚 呛 呜 呝 呞 呟 呠 呡 呢 呣 呤 呥 呦 呧 周 呩 呪 呫 呬 呭 呮 呯 呰 呱 呲 味 呴 呵 呶 呷 呸 呹 呺 呻 呼 命 呾 呿 咀 咁 咂 咃 咄 咅 咆 咇 咈 咉 咊 咋 和 咍 咎 咏 咐 咑 咒 咓 咔 咕 咖 咗 咘 咙 咚 咛 咜 咝 咞 咟 咠 咡 咢 咣 咤 咥 咦 咧 咨 咩 咪 咫 咬 咭 咮 咯 咰 咱 咲 咳 咴 咵 咶 咷 咸 咹 咺 咻 咼 咽 咾 咿 哀 品 哂 哃 哄 哅 哆 哇 哈 哉 哊 哋 哌 响 哎 哏 哐 哑 哒 哓 哔 哕 哖 哗 哘 哙 哚 哛 哜 哝 哞 哟 哠 員 哢 哣 哤 哥 哦 哧 哨 哩 哪 哫 哬 哭 哮 哯 哰 哱 哲 哳 哴 哵 哶 哷 哸 哹 哺 哻 哼 哽 哾 哿 
anon@lowtide:~$ 
anon@lowtide:~$ echo;./uniwide 12429 1242F

𒐩       𒐪       𒐫       𒐬       𒐭       𒐮       𒐯       
anon@lowtide:~$ 

Those last 7 glyphs look pretty damned wide to me.  Does MS Mincho
have cuneiform glyphs?

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#357710 — Octavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2016-05-29 05:44 -0700
SubjectOctavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29{5.44A.Seattle.2016}>
In reply to#357707
You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
> Does MS Mincho have cuneiform glyphs?

Of course not, I use "Segoe UI Historic" for that.
I've been talking about mixing and matching fonts;
one font is _not_ enough.

> > "DejaVu Sans Mono" has no Asian glyphs, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
> > [ 'ツ' is katakana, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is a kaomoji ]
> > 
> > It has no doubleWide glyphs;
> > instead, it has a narrow set of crude, HalfHeight glyphs.
> > Too crude, "MS Mincho" is _much_ better.
> 
> This terminal is using Dejavu sans mono book:
>   anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 130E0 131BF
>   𓃠 𓃡 𓃢 𓃣 𓃤 𓃥 𓃦 𓃧 𓃨 𓃩 𓃪 𓃫 𓃬 𓃭 𓃮 𓃯 𓃰 𓃱 𓃲 𓃳 𓃴
>   
>   anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 5400 54FF
>   吀 吁 吂 吃 各 吅 吆 吇 合 吉 吊 吋 同
> 
> Those last 7 glyphs look pretty damned wide to me.  

You can't show a screenshot, I can: 

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG
  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG

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#357723 — Re: Octavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-29 21:40 +0000
SubjectRe: Octavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG
Message-ID<fhjgua03.agau@perch.invalid>
In reply to#357710
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
>> Does MS Mincho have cuneiform glyphs?
> 
> Of course not, I use "Segoe UI Historic" for that.
> I've been talking about mixing and matching fonts;
> one font is _not_ enough.
>

I don't even bother with "fonts."  I keep the one terminal font.  I can
call up a unicode glyph by number whenever I want within vim or at the
terminal, and it displays properly.

>> > "DejaVu Sans Mono" has no Asian glyphs, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
>> > [ 'ツ' is katakana, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is a kaomoji ]
>> > 
>> > It has no doubleWide glyphs;
>> > instead, it has a narrow set of crude, HalfHeight glyphs.
>> > Too crude, "MS Mincho" is _much_ better.
>> 
>> This terminal is using Dejavu sans mono book:
>>   anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 130E0 131BF
>>   ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
>>   
>>   anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 5400 54FF
>>   吀 吁 吂 吃 各 吅 吆 吇 合 吉 吊 吋 同
>> 
>> Those last 7 glyphs look pretty damned wide to me.  
> 
> You can't show a screenshot, I can: 
> 
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG

https://vid.me/IaM3
http://i.imgur.com/1Z1n0SH.png

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#357713 — Re: Jeff Ralf's facade/lies have been exposed.

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2016-05-29 16:20 +0000
SubjectRe: Jeff Ralf's facade/lies have been exposed.
Message-ID<dr0j6gF65o1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#357707
On Sun, 29 May 2016 11:09:45 +0000, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
>> You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
>>> What do you know about Linux ?
>> 
>> Much more than you and Scotty Doty, apparently.
>> Scott Doty's façade/lies have been exposed.
>> 
>> "DejaVu Sans Mono" has no Asian glyphs, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
>> [ 'ツ' is katakana, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is a kaomoji ]
>> 
>> It has no doubleWide glyphs;
>> instead, it has a narrow set of crude, HalfHeight glyphs.
>> Too crude, "MS Mincho" is _much_ better.
>> 
>> 
> This terminal is using Dejavu sans mono book:
> 
> anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 130E0 131BF 𓃠 𓃡 𓃢 𓃣 𓃤 𓃥 𓃦 𓃧 𓃨 𓃩 𓃪 𓃫 𓃬 𓃭 
𓃮 𓃯 𓃰 𓃱 𓃲
> 𓃳 𓃴 𓃵 𓃶 𓃷 𓃸 𓃹 𓃺 𓃻 𓃼 𓃽 𓃾 𓃿 𓄀 𓄁 𓄂 𓄃 𓄄 𓄅 𓄆 𓄇 𓄈 𓄉 𓄊 𓄋 𓄌 
𓄍 𓄎 𓄏 𓄐 𓄑 𓄒 𓄓 𓄔 𓄕 𓄖
> 𓄗 𓄘 𓄙 𓄚 𓄛 𓄜 𓄝 𓄞 𓄟 𓄠 𓄡 𓄢 𓄣 𓄤 𓄥 𓄦 𓄧 𓄨 𓄩 𓄪 𓄫 𓄬 𓄭 𓄮 𓄯 𓄰 
𓄱 𓄲 𓄳 𓄴 𓄵 𓄶 𓄷 𓄸 𓄹 𓄺
> 𓄻 𓄼 𓄽 𓄾 𓄿 𓅀 𓅁 𓅂 𓅃 𓅄 𓅅 𓅆 𓅇 𓅈 𓅉 𓅊 𓅋 𓅌 𓅍 𓅎 𓅏 𓅐 𓅑 𓅒 𓅓 𓅔 
𓅕 𓅖 𓅗 𓅘 𓅙 𓅚 𓅛 𓅜 𓅝 𓅞
> 𓅟 𓅠 𓅡 𓅢 𓅣 𓅤 𓅥 𓅦 𓅧 𓅨 𓅩 𓅪 𓅫 𓅬 𓅭 𓅮 𓅯 𓅰 𓅱 𓅲 𓅳 𓅴 𓅵 𓅶 𓅷 𓅸 
𓅹 𓅺 𓅻 𓅼 𓅽 𓅾 𓅿 𓆀 𓆁 𓆂
> 𓆃 𓆄 𓆅 𓆆 𓆇 𓆈 𓆉 𓆊 𓆋 𓆌 𓆍 𓆎 𓆏 𓆐 𓆑 𓆒 𓆓 𓆔 𓆕 𓆖 𓆗 𓆘 𓆙 𓆚 𓆛 𓆜 
𓆝 𓆞 𓆟 𓆠 𓆡 𓆢 𓆣 𓆤 𓆥 𓆦
> 𓆧 𓆨 𓆩 𓆪 𓆫 𓆬 𓆭 𓆮 𓆯 𓆰 𓆱 𓆲 𓆳 𓆴 𓆵 𓆶 𓆷 𓆸 𓆹 𓆺 𓆻 𓆼 𓆽 𓆾 𓆿 
anon@lowtide:~$
> anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 5400 54FF 吀 吁 吂 吃 各 吅 吆 吇 合 吉 吊 吋 同 名 后 
吏 吐 向 吒 吓
> 吔 吕 吖 吗 吘 吙 吚 君 吜 吝 吞 吟 吠 吡 吢 吣 吤 吥 否 吧 吨 吩 吪 含 听 吭 吮 
启 吰 吱 吲 吳 吴 吵 吶 吷
> 吸 吹 吺 吻 吼 吽 吾 吿 呀 呁 呂 呃 呄 呅 呆 呇 呈 呉 告 呋 呌 呍 呎 呏 呐 呑 呒 
呓 呔 呕 呖 呗 员 呙 呚 呛
> 呜 呝 呞 呟 呠 呡 呢 呣 呤 呥 呦 呧 周 呩 呪 呫 呬 呭 呮 呯 呰 呱 呲 味 呴 呵 呶 
呷 呸 呹 呺 呻 呼 命 呾 呿
> 咀 咁 咂 咃 咄 咅 咆 咇 咈 咉 咊 咋 和 咍 咎 咏 咐 咑 咒 咓 咔 咕 咖 咗 咘 咙 咚 
咛 咜 咝 咞 咟 咠 咡 咢 咣
> 咤 咥 咦 咧 咨 咩 咪 咫 咬 咭 咮 咯 咰 咱 咲 咳 咴 咵 咶 咷 咸 咹 咺 咻 咼 咽 咾 
咿 哀 品 哂 哃 哄 哅 哆 哇
> 哈 哉 哊 哋 哌 响 哎 哏 哐 哑 哒 哓 哔 哕 哖 哗 哘 哙 哚 哛 哜 哝 哞 哟 哠 員 哢 
哣 哤 哥 哦 哧 哨 哩 哪 哫
> 哬 哭 哮 哯 哰 哱 哲 哳 哴 哵 哶 哷 哸 哹 哺 哻 哼 哽 哾 哿 anon@lowtide:~$
> anon@lowtide:~$ echo;./uniwide 12429 1242F
> 
> 𒐩       𒐪       𒐫       𒐬       𒐭       𒐮       𒐯 anon@lowtide:~$
> 
> Those last 7 glyphs look pretty damned wide to me.  Does MS Mincho have
> cuneiform glyphs?

Thanks for saying something -- you have a lot more patience with Jeff 
than I do.

          # set a new font set
          printf '\33]50;%s\007' 9x15,xft:Kochi" Mincho"

From man 7 urxvt:

       Can I switch the fonts at runtime?

       Yes, using an escape sequence. Try something like this,
       which has the same effect as using the "-fn" switch, and
       takes effect immediately:

          printf '\33]50;%s\007' "9x15bold,xft:Kochi Gothic"

       This is useful if you e.g. work primarily with japanese
       (and prefer a japanese font), but you have to switch to
       chinese temporarily, where japanese fonts would only be
       in your way.

       You can think of this as a kind of manual ISO-2022
       switching.
 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

-- 
 -v
"Desktops, workstations and servers are and Microsoft
is doing very well. AS well as Linux." -"Slimer"
"I do not see desktop Linux as a failure." -"Snit"

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#357717 — Scott Doty can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2016-05-29 10:27 -0700
SubjectScott Doty can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29{10.27A.Seattle.2016}>
In reply to#357713
Scott Doty quoted "man 7 urxvt": <<

  Can I switch the fonts at runtime?

  Yes, using an escape sequence. Try something like this,
  which has the same effect as using the "-fn" switch, and
  takes effect immediately:

     printf '\33]50;%s\007' "9x15bold,xft:Kochi Gothic"

  This is useful if you e.g. work primarily with japanese
  (and prefer a japanese font), but you have to switch to
  chinese temporarily, where japanese fonts would only be
  in your way.

  You can think of this as 
  a kind of manual ISO-2022 switching.  >>

I'd like to see "rxvt-unicode" displaying Greek, Emojies, cuneiform,
Japanese and Chinese all at once, in one screenshot.

  Scott Doty can't show a screenshot, I can: 

    http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG
    http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
    http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG

One shouldn't have to switch fonts manually, via printf().
CSS let you select which FontGlyph to use,
depending on the code point; to wit:

  @font-face {
    font-family: RelfsFont;
    src: local(MS Mincho);
    unicode-range: U+41-5A, U+61-7A, U+C0-FF;
  }
  /*  http://rishida.net/blog/?p=760  */

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#357725 — Re: Jeff Ralf's facade/lies have been exposed.

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-29 22:29 +0000
SubjectRe: Jeff Ralf's facade/lies have been exposed.
Message-ID<glkhid83g.kihu451@perch.invalid>
In reply to#357713
In comp.os.linux.advocacy vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 May 2016 11:09:45 +0000, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
> 
...
>> anon@lowtide:~$ echo;./uniwide 12429 1242F
>> 
>> 𒐩       𒐪       𒐫       𒐬       𒐭       𒐮       𒐯 anon@lowtide:~$
>> 
>> Those last 7 glyphs look pretty damned wide to me.  Does MS Mincho have
>> cuneiform glyphs?
> 
> Thanks for saying something -- you have a lot more patience with Jeff 
> than I do.
> 
>           # set a new font set
>           printf '\33]50;%s\007' 9x15,xft:Kochi" Mincho"
> 
> From man 7 urxvt:
> 
>        Can I switch the fonts at runtime?
> 
>        Yes, using an escape sequence. Try something like this,
>        which has the same effect as using the "-fn" switch, and
>        takes effect immediately:
> 
>           printf '\33]50;%s\007' "9x15bold,xft:Kochi Gothic"
> 
>        This is useful if you e.g. work primarily with japanese
>        (and prefer a japanese font), but you have to switch to
>        chinese temporarily, where japanese fonts would only be
>        in your way.
> 
>        You can think of this as a kind of manual ISO-2022
>        switching.
>  _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> 
> 
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> 

I wish I could figure out what he is going on about.  I guess he views
the CLI world throught the eyes of the severely limited MS consoles.
That screenshot of his -- I don't know what that is supposed to
be... maybe a wallpaper for a customized windows desktop.  I don't see
any command prompt on it anywhere.

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#357731 — Re: "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP" is a Visual C++ console, really.

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-30 01:03 +0000
SubjectRe: "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP" is a Visual C++ console, really.
Message-ID<lhkmfjih94.gki4@perch.invalid>
In reply to#357725
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> Speaking of my "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG", you ( Mr. O.W.L ) wrote:
> > I don't know what that is supposed to be... 
> > maybe a wallpaper for a customized windows desktop.
> > I don't see any command prompt on it anywhere.
> 
> Notice the selected text (in the screenshot); to wit:
> 
>        🚬
>         Δ
>        cr
>        ⁶⁷
>        23
>        __
> 
> Notice how the columns are perfectly aligned.
> 
> To get a glyph, you have to type in hex numbers;
> I select them using my mouse, then paste them elsewhere.
> 

No, I don't have to type in the hex.  I can select and paste.

selected glyphs:
http://i.imgur.com/laNwoDQ.png

pasting into editor:
http://i.imgur.com/SQje8XT.png


> These screenshots also show selected text:
> 
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
> 
> It's a Visual C++ console, really.

OK.

> My editor/debugger: Visual Studio 2015, Community Edition,
>   with Visual Commander, Professional Edition.  Details:
> 
>     http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
>     http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP
> 

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#357765 — Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-05-30 14:56 +0000
SubjectRe: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.
Message-ID<nihkag$6ch$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#357703
Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> writes:

>You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
>> What do you know about Linux ?

>Much more than you and Scotty Doty, apparently.
>Scott Doty's façade/lies have been exposed.

So, instead of constantly whining how Linux cannot mix/match fonts 
(something which apparently only you care about), why not _fix_ Linux
so that it does?  That's the whole idea behind Linux.

Better yet, come up with a custom font mixer tool, one that takes parts
from Font A, part from Font B and part from Font C and produce a fantastic
custom font.

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#357798 — Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2016-05-30 16:38 -0400
SubjectRe: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.
Message-ID<nii8lk$uuc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#357765
Michael Moroney wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> writes:
>
>>You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
>>> What do you know about Linux ?
>
>>Much more than you and Scotty Doty, apparently.
>>Scott Doty's façade/lies have been exposed.
>
> So, instead of constantly whining how Linux cannot mix/match fonts 
> (something which apparently only you care about), why not _fix_ Linux
> so that it does?  That's the whole idea behind Linux.
>
> Better yet, come up with a custom font mixer tool, one that takes parts
> from Font A, part from Font B and part from Font C and produce a fantastic
> custom font.

Is that jackwagon saying that you can't mix fonts in LibreOffice?
Certain terminals?  Certain newsreaders?  I mean, those things aren't Linux,
but they can run in Linux, and some of them can mix fonts.  It has nothing
to do with "Linux".

Maybe GNU Unifont would be enough for most purposes?

   http://unifoundry.com/unifont.html

Check out the chart/picture shown there.

-- 
You have had a long-term stimulation relative to business.

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#357811 — Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ?

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-05-30 17:42 -0400
SubjectRe: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ?
Message-ID<niic5c$bqi$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#357701
On 5/29/2016 1:11 AM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
>>
>> What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Nothing.
>> What do you know about rxvt-unicode ? Nothing.
>>
> What do you know about Linux?  Nothing.
> https://vid.me/cPXP



You've gone 3/4 of the way to full-retard, with your recent hardcore 
stalking, nymshifting and crossposting.

All that's left is brainless forging.


wtf?

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