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Re: Jeff Ralf's facade/lies have been exposed.

From vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, news.software.readers
Subject Re: Jeff Ralf's facade/lies have been exposed.
Date 2016-05-29 16:20 +0000
Message-ID <dr0j6gF65o1U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (3 earlier) <dqtj73Fi9hdU1@mid.individual.net> <Jeff-Relf.Me@May.28{7.15A.Seattle.2016}> <ghjduf93af.jig4@perch.invalid> <Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29{1.03A.Seattle.2016}> <hgjvnbm.mckf93@perch.invalid>

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On Sun, 29 May 2016 11:09:45 +0000, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
>> You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
>>> What do you know about Linux ?
>> 
>> Much more than you and Scotty Doty, apparently.
>> Scott Doty's façade/lies have been exposed.
>> 
>> "DejaVu Sans Mono" has no Asian glyphs, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
>> [ 'ツ' is katakana, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is a kaomoji ]
>> 
>> It has no doubleWide glyphs;
>> instead, it has a narrow set of crude, HalfHeight glyphs.
>> Too crude, "MS Mincho" is _much_ better.
>> 
>> 
> This terminal is using Dejavu sans mono book:
> 
> anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 130E0 131BF 𓃠 𓃡 𓃢 𓃣 𓃤 𓃥 𓃦 𓃧 𓃨 𓃩 𓃪 𓃫 𓃬 𓃭 
𓃮 𓃯 𓃰 𓃱 𓃲
> 𓃳 𓃴 𓃵 𓃶 𓃷 𓃸 𓃹 𓃺 𓃻 𓃼 𓃽 𓃾 𓃿 𓄀 𓄁 𓄂 𓄃 𓄄 𓄅 𓄆 𓄇 𓄈 𓄉 𓄊 𓄋 𓄌 
𓄍 𓄎 𓄏 𓄐 𓄑 𓄒 𓄓 𓄔 𓄕 𓄖
> 𓄗 𓄘 𓄙 𓄚 𓄛 𓄜 𓄝 𓄞 𓄟 𓄠 𓄡 𓄢 𓄣 𓄤 𓄥 𓄦 𓄧 𓄨 𓄩 𓄪 𓄫 𓄬 𓄭 𓄮 𓄯 𓄰 
𓄱 𓄲 𓄳 𓄴 𓄵 𓄶 𓄷 𓄸 𓄹 𓄺
> 𓄻 𓄼 𓄽 𓄾 𓄿 𓅀 𓅁 𓅂 𓅃 𓅄 𓅅 𓅆 𓅇 𓅈 𓅉 𓅊 𓅋 𓅌 𓅍 𓅎 𓅏 𓅐 𓅑 𓅒 𓅓 𓅔 
𓅕 𓅖 𓅗 𓅘 𓅙 𓅚 𓅛 𓅜 𓅝 𓅞
> 𓅟 𓅠 𓅡 𓅢 𓅣 𓅤 𓅥 𓅦 𓅧 𓅨 𓅩 𓅪 𓅫 𓅬 𓅭 𓅮 𓅯 𓅰 𓅱 𓅲 𓅳 𓅴 𓅵 𓅶 𓅷 𓅸 
𓅹 𓅺 𓅻 𓅼 𓅽 𓅾 𓅿 𓆀 𓆁 𓆂
> 𓆃 𓆄 𓆅 𓆆 𓆇 𓆈 𓆉 𓆊 𓆋 𓆌 𓆍 𓆎 𓆏 𓆐 𓆑 𓆒 𓆓 𓆔 𓆕 𓆖 𓆗 𓆘 𓆙 𓆚 𓆛 𓆜 
𓆝 𓆞 𓆟 𓆠 𓆡 𓆢 𓆣 𓆤 𓆥 𓆦
> 𓆧 𓆨 𓆩 𓆪 𓆫 𓆬 𓆭 𓆮 𓆯 𓆰 𓆱 𓆲 𓆳 𓆴 𓆵 𓆶 𓆷 𓆸 𓆹 𓆺 𓆻 𓆼 𓆽 𓆾 𓆿 
anon@lowtide:~$
> anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 5400 54FF 吀 吁 吂 吃 各 吅 吆 吇 合 吉 吊 吋 同 名 后 
吏 吐 向 吒 吓
> 吔 吕 吖 吗 吘 吙 吚 君 吜 吝 吞 吟 吠 吡 吢 吣 吤 吥 否 吧 吨 吩 吪 含 听 吭 吮 
启 吰 吱 吲 吳 吴 吵 吶 吷
> 吸 吹 吺 吻 吼 吽 吾 吿 呀 呁 呂 呃 呄 呅 呆 呇 呈 呉 告 呋 呌 呍 呎 呏 呐 呑 呒 
呓 呔 呕 呖 呗 员 呙 呚 呛
> 呜 呝 呞 呟 呠 呡 呢 呣 呤 呥 呦 呧 周 呩 呪 呫 呬 呭 呮 呯 呰 呱 呲 味 呴 呵 呶 
呷 呸 呹 呺 呻 呼 命 呾 呿
> 咀 咁 咂 咃 咄 咅 咆 咇 咈 咉 咊 咋 和 咍 咎 咏 咐 咑 咒 咓 咔 咕 咖 咗 咘 咙 咚 
咛 咜 咝 咞 咟 咠 咡 咢 咣
> 咤 咥 咦 咧 咨 咩 咪 咫 咬 咭 咮 咯 咰 咱 咲 咳 咴 咵 咶 咷 咸 咹 咺 咻 咼 咽 咾 
咿 哀 品 哂 哃 哄 哅 哆 哇
> 哈 哉 哊 哋 哌 响 哎 哏 哐 哑 哒 哓 哔 哕 哖 哗 哘 哙 哚 哛 哜 哝 哞 哟 哠 員 哢 
哣 哤 哥 哦 哧 哨 哩 哪 哫
> 哬 哭 哮 哯 哰 哱 哲 哳 哴 哵 哶 哷 哸 哹 哺 哻 哼 哽 哾 哿 anon@lowtide:~$
> anon@lowtide:~$ echo;./uniwide 12429 1242F
> 
> 𒐩       𒐪       𒐫       𒐬       𒐭       𒐮       𒐯 anon@lowtide:~$
> 
> Those last 7 glyphs look pretty damned wide to me.  Does MS Mincho have
> cuneiform glyphs?

Thanks for saying something -- you have a lot more patience with Jeff 
than I do.

          # set a new font set
          printf '\33]50;%s\007' 9x15,xft:Kochi" Mincho"

From man 7 urxvt:

       Can I switch the fonts at runtime?

       Yes, using an escape sequence. Try something like this,
       which has the same effect as using the "-fn" switch, and
       takes effect immediately:

          printf '\33]50;%s\007' "9x15bold,xft:Kochi Gothic"

       This is useful if you e.g. work primarily with japanese
       (and prefer a japanese font), but you have to switch to
       chinese temporarily, where japanese fonts would only be
       in your way.

       You can think of this as a kind of manual ISO-2022
       switching.
 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

-- 
 -v
"Desktops, workstations and servers are and Microsoft
is doing very well. AS well as Linux." -"Slimer"
"I do not see desktop Linux as a failure." -"Snit"

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              Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 01:03 -0700
                Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 10:19 +0000
                I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 05:53 -0700
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