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  A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 14:08 -0700
    Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 23:42 +0200
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 15:32 -0700
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-02 08:20 +0000
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 04:52 -0700
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 12:49 +0000
          Re: A challenge for the "advocates" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-02 08:04 -0500
          Re: A challenge for the "advocates" "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 10:36 -0400
            Re: A challenge for the "advocates" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 15:01 +0000
              Re: A challenge for the "advocates" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 15:29 +0000
                Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 08:48 -0700
            Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 13:49 -0700
              Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 17:38 -0700
              Re: A challenge for the "advocates" GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-02 21:58 -0600
          Re: A challenge for the "advocates" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-02 19:41 +0000
            Re: A challenge for the "advocates" ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 23:41 +0000
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-03 09:27 -0400
    Snit!  Give it up, YOU degenerate. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 14:43 -0700
      Re: Snit!  Give it up, YOU degenerate. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-01 23:55 +0000
        Re: Snit!  Give it up, YOU degenerate. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 18:44 -0700
    Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 14:57 -0700
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:39 +0000
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:44 -0700
          Re: A challenge for the "advocates" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:10 +0000
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:52 -0700
    Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 18:02 -0700
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 08:13 +0200
        Re: Another Snit Circus attempt. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 04:50 -0700
    Re: A challenge for the "advocates" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 14:56 +0000
    Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 00:26 +0000
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 07:33 +0000
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 00:44 -0700
          Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 00:51 +0000
            Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 21:01 -0500
              Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 01:03 -0500
                Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 01:52 -0500
                  Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 02:23 -0500
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-04 11:19 -0500
          Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 09:47 -0700
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-04 11:15 -0500
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 09:49 -0700
          Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 21:08 -0500
            Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 00:54 -0500
              Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 01:54 -0500
                Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 02:23 -0500
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 21:06 -0500
          Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 00:57 -0500
            Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 01:56 -0500
              Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 02:24 -0500

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#318465

On 9/1/15, 2:08 PM, in article D20B61D9.59985%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com,
"Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> Would love to see if the "advocates" are capable of speaking about
> technology. Elsewhere I noted, about choice, that my view is desktop Linux
> offers little of it: you have a bunch of distros all tied to the same
> ecosystem that offers very little choice. I can show workflows and products
> which demonstrate this:
> 
> Some workflows which, as far as I know, cannot be equaled on Linux:
> 
> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
> 
> On Linux the way I think most would do it is save the file as PDF to their
> recipes folder, then dig down to it and open it (or save and open it on
> their desktop and move it to their recipes folder later), then edit it, then
> save it, then attach it to an email.
> 
> There are PDF editors which do have something akin to the "Share" menu which
> is common on OS X, even if not as standardized, so that might give a way to
> streamline things a bit more than adding an attachment by digging down again
> (not that it would be the end of the world even if you had to... just noting
> it is not as streamlined).
> 
> As far as content I doubt anyone in COLA could replicate on Linux, look what
> I did to show *another* point... was not even made to show off screencasting
> skills: 
> 
> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>.
> 
> In that video I:
> * Replace the mouse cursor in post production to ease following the action
>   (whole video)
> * Highlight a window (from about 10-20 seconds). It stays highlighted
>   even as I resize and move it.
> * Zoom in on the area around the mouse and dim the rest of the screen
>   (at about 45 seconds, and again later)
> * Highlight and zoom in on a rectangle to show the "action" there
>   (at about 1:15)
> 
> Of people in COLA, Owl has shown the greatest skill at screen recording on
> Linux. His videos, as beneficial as they are (and I do not mean to put them
> down in any way) are less crisp (could be the site he uses?) but also do not
> include any such features. These things are trivial on OS X and, as far as I
> know, completely beyond the capability of any program the "advocates" use on
> Linux (at least not without a *lot* of work).
> 
> Prediction: the herd will deny this. Of *course* they could show Linux doing
> as smooth of a workflow for the recipe. Of *course* they could show a video
> where they do the things I list. But they will not because blame Snit,
> everyone is Snit, Snit tells unquotable lies, wah wah wah. It really is
> likely to be the best I expect from *any* of the "advocates".

So far Peter Köhlmann has responded and noted the challenge is too much for
him... all he could do was give the predicted insults as he ran from
speaking of technology.

Any "advocate" think they can do better?


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318478

Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 2:08 PM, in article D20B61D9.59985%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com,
> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>> Would love to see if the "advocates" are capable of speaking about
>> technology. Elsewhere I noted, about choice, that my view is desktop Linux
>> offers little of it: you have a bunch of distros all tied to the same
>> ecosystem that offers very little choice. I can show workflows and products
>> which demonstrate this:
>> 
>> Some workflows which, as far as I know, cannot be equaled on Linux:
>> 
>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
>> 
>> On Linux the way I think most would do it is save the file as PDF to their
>> recipes folder, then dig down to it and open it (or save and open it on
>> their desktop and move it to their recipes folder later), then edit it, then
>> save it, then attach it to an email.
>> 
>> There are PDF editors which do have something akin to the "Share" menu which
>> is common on OS X, even if not as standardized, so that might give a way to
>> streamline things a bit more than adding an attachment by digging down again
>> (not that it would be the end of the world even if you had to... just noting
>> it is not as streamlined).
>> 

What part of this have I not already shown you on Linux?

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#318483

On 9/1/15, 3:39 PM, in article fa3nm00.af@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 9/1/15, 2:08 PM, in article D20B61D9.59985%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com,
>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Would love to see if the "advocates" are capable of speaking about
>>> technology. Elsewhere I noted, about choice, that my view is desktop Linux
>>> offers little of it: you have a bunch of distros all tied to the same
>>> ecosystem that offers very little choice. I can show workflows and products
>>> which demonstrate this:
>>> 
>>> Some workflows which, as far as I know, cannot be equaled on Linux:
>>> 
>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
>>> 
>>> On Linux the way I think most would do it is save the file as PDF to their
>>> recipes folder, then dig down to it and open it (or save and open it on
>>> their desktop and move it to their recipes folder later), then edit it, then
>>> save it, then attach it to an email.
>>> 
>>> There are PDF editors which do have something akin to the "Share" menu which
>>> is common on OS X, even if not as standardized, so that might give a way to
>>> streamline things a bit more than adding an attachment by digging down again
>>> (not that it would be the end of the world even if you had to... just noting
>>> it is not as streamlined).
> 
> What part of this have I not already shown you on Linux?
> 
The combination of having them all at once... as well as the features of
videos I showed and spoke of... and you snipped. :)




-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318491

Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 3:39 PM, in article fa3nm00.af@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/1/15, 2:08 PM, in article D20B61D9.59985%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com,
>>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Would love to see if the "advocates" are capable of speaking about
>>>> technology. Elsewhere I noted, about choice, that my view is desktop Linux
>>>> offers little of it: you have a bunch of distros all tied to the same
>>>> ecosystem that offers very little choice. I can show workflows and products
>>>> which demonstrate this:
>>>> 
>>>> Some workflows which, as far as I know, cannot be equaled on Linux:
>>>> 
>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
>>>> 
>>>> On Linux the way I think most would do it is save the file as PDF to their
>>>> recipes folder, then dig down to it and open it (or save and open it on
>>>> their desktop and move it to their recipes folder later), then edit it, then
>>>> save it, then attach it to an email.
>>>> 
>>>> There are PDF editors which do have something akin to the "Share" menu which
>>>> is common on OS X, even if not as standardized, so that might give a way to
>>>> streamline things a bit more than adding an attachment by digging down again
>>>> (not that it would be the end of the world even if you had to... just noting
>>>> it is not as streamlined).
>> 
>> What part of this have I not already shown you on Linux?
>> 
> The combination of having them all at once... as well as the features of
> videos I showed and spoke of... and you snipped. :)

The part about how you edit your videos?  I'm not going to bother with
complex "post-production", Mr Spielberg, just to demonstrate a point.

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#318486

On 9/1/15, 3:39 PM, in article fa3nm00.af@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 9/1/15, 2:08 PM, in article D20B61D9.59985%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com,
>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Would love to see if the "advocates" are capable of speaking about
>>> technology. Elsewhere I noted, about choice, that my view is desktop Linux
>>> offers little of it: you have a bunch of distros all tied to the same
>>> ecosystem that offers very little choice. I can show workflows and products
>>> which demonstrate this:
>>> 
>>> Some workflows which, as far as I know, cannot be equaled on Linux:
>>> 
>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
>>> 
>>> On Linux the way I think most would do it is save the file as PDF to their
>>> recipes folder, then dig down to it and open it (or save and open it on
>>> their desktop and move it to their recipes folder later), then edit it, then
>>> save it, then attach it to an email.
>>> 
>>> There are PDF editors which do have something akin to the "Share" menu which
>>> is common on OS X, even if not as standardized, so that might give a way to
>>> streamline things a bit more than adding an attachment by digging down again
>>> (not that it would be the end of the world even if you had to... just noting
>>> it is not as streamlined).
>>> 
> 
> What part of this have I not already shown you on Linux?
> 
Also, let me be clear: I could do much of this with a specific Automator
script designed just for this purpose (I think I could even get the specific
edit in there). If so, then I *could* do this exact workflow with one click
or hot key or menu item.

But that is cheating. That is silly. I am talking about doing this with
general GUI work and no special hot keys or scripts made just for this task.
Now, of course, for someone else they might not have "recipes" so that would
be added or they might show saving to "art projects" folder or whatever (as
well as emailing).

But no special scripts made just for this activity... that is silly.


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318524

On 9/1/15, 2:08 PM, in article D20B61D9.59985%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com,
"Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> Would love to see if the "advocates" are capable of speaking about
> technology. Elsewhere I noted, about choice, that my view is desktop Linux
> offers little of it: you have a bunch of distros all tied to the same
> ecosystem that offers very little choice. I can show workflows and products
> which demonstrate this:
> 
> Some workflows which, as far as I know, cannot be equaled on Linux:
> 
> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
> 
> On Linux the way I think most would do it is save the file as PDF to their
> recipes folder, then dig down to it and open it (or save and open it on
> their desktop and move it to their recipes folder later), then edit it, then
> save it, then attach it to an email.
> 
> There are PDF editors which do have something akin to the "Share" menu which
> is common on OS X, even if not as standardized, so that might give a way to
> streamline things a bit more than adding an attachment by digging down again
> (not that it would be the end of the world even if you had to... just noting
> it is not as streamlined).
> 
> As far as content I doubt anyone in COLA could replicate on Linux, look what
> I did to show *another* point... was not even made to show off screencasting
> skills: 
> 
> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>.
> 
> In that video I:
> * Replace the mouse cursor in post production to ease following the action
>   (whole video)
> * Highlight a window (from about 10-20 seconds). It stays highlighted
>   even as I resize and move it.
> * Zoom in on the area around the mouse and dim the rest of the screen
>   (at about 45 seconds, and again later)
> * Highlight and zoom in on a rectangle to show the "action" there
>   (at about 1:15)
> 
> Of people in COLA, Owl has shown the greatest skill at screen recording on
> Linux. His videos, as beneficial as they are (and I do not mean to put them
> down in any way) are less crisp (could be the site he uses?) but also do not
> include any such features. These things are trivial on OS X and, as far as I
> know, completely beyond the capability of any program the "advocates" use on
> Linux (at least not without a *lot* of work).
> 
> Prediction: the herd will deny this. Of *course* they could show Linux doing
> as smooth of a workflow for the recipe. Of *course* they could show a video
> where they do the things I list. But they will not because blame Snit,
> everyone is Snit, Snit tells unquotable lies, wah wah wah. It really is
> likely to be the best I expect from *any* of the "advocates".

So far:

* Peter Köhlmann has responded and noted the challenge is too much for
him... all he could do was give the predicted insults as he ran from
speaking of technology.

* Owl tried to change the topic to using hot keys for every feature you can
possibly do and not showing menus and otherwise just ran.

* Vallor spewed a bunch of nonsense and ran off whining that I am actually
asking the "advocates" to show the benefits of the "choice" they claim Linux
gives them.

Any "advocate" think they can do better? Seems not. So the whole "choice"
thing on Linux is not really showing itself to be much of anything... just
an empty claim.


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318556

The imbecile liar Snit Michael Glasser babbled:

> On 9/1/15, 2:08 PM, in article
> D20B61D9.59985%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com, "Snit"
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> Would love to see if the "advocates" are 

< snip Snit circus >

> 
> So far:
> 
> * Peter Köhlmann has responded and noted the challenge is too much for
> him... 

So Snit Michael Glasser is lying again. News at 11

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#318569 — Re: Another Snit Circus attempt.

On 9/2/15, 1:32 AM, in article
spoibc-pr6.ln1@user-1842.linux.individual.net, "William Poaster"
<wp@dev.null> wrote:

> It was reported that Peter Köhlmann posted:
> 
>> The imbecile liar Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
>> 
>>> On 9/1/15, 2:08 PM, in article
>>> D20B61D9.59985%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com, "Snit"
>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Would love to see if the "advocates" are
>> 
>> < snip Snit circus >
>> 
>>> 
>>> So far:
>>> 
>>> * Peter Köhlmann has responded and noted the challenge is too much for
>>> him... 
>> 
>> So Snit Michael Glasser is lying again. News at 11
> 
> That imbecilic Glasser has been told *many* times, that  the majority of
> Linux advocates & users have him binned, or at the very *least* ignored.
> Yet he persists in trying to elicit responses from them with such idiotic
> phrases as "the challenge is too much for him/them..." & "fear speaking
> about technology" etc.
> Just shows how desperate he is in his attention seeking.

Several already responded - making it clear doing things which are fairly
simple on OS X is beyond their ability on Linux. That is OK, maybe they will
return the challenge and find things which they can do on Linux which are
hard to do on OS X. That would be cool.



-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318607

Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 2:08 PM, in article D20B61D9.59985%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com,
> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>> Would love to see if the "advocates" are capable of speaking about
>> technology. Elsewhere I noted, about choice, that my view is desktop Linux
>> offers little of it: you have a bunch of distros all tied to the same
>> ecosystem that offers very little choice. I can show workflows and products
>> which demonstrate this:
>> 
>> Some workflows which, as far as I know, cannot be equaled on Linux:
>> 
>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
>> 
>> On Linux the way I think most would do it is save the file as PDF to their
>> recipes folder, then dig down to it and open it (or save and open it on
>> their desktop and move it to their recipes folder later), then edit it, then
>> save it, then attach it to an email.
>> 
>> There are PDF editors which do have something akin to the "Share" menu which
>> is common on OS X, even if not as standardized, so that might give a way to
>> streamline things a bit more than adding an attachment by digging down again
>> (not that it would be the end of the world even if you had to... just noting
>> it is not as streamlined).
>> 
>> As far as content I doubt anyone in COLA could replicate on Linux, look what
>> I did to show *another* point... was not even made to show off screencasting
>> skills: 
>> 
>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>.
>> 
>> In that video I:
>> * Replace the mouse cursor in post production to ease following the action
>>   (whole video)
>> * Highlight a window (from about 10-20 seconds). It stays highlighted
>>   even as I resize and move it.
>> * Zoom in on the area around the mouse and dim the rest of the screen
>>   (at about 45 seconds, and again later)
>> * Highlight and zoom in on a rectangle to show the "action" there
>>   (at about 1:15)
>> 
>> Of people in COLA, Owl has shown the greatest skill at screen recording on
>> Linux. His videos, as beneficial as they are (and I do not mean to put them
>> down in any way) are less crisp (could be the site he uses?) but also do not
>> include any such features. These things are trivial on OS X and, as far as I
>> know, completely beyond the capability of any program the "advocates" use on
>> Linux (at least not without a *lot* of work).
>> 
>> Prediction: the herd will deny this. Of *course* they could show Linux doing
>> as smooth of a workflow for the recipe. Of *course* they could show a video
>> where they do the things I list. But they will not because blame Snit,
>> everyone is Snit, Snit tells unquotable lies, wah wah wah. It really is
>> likely to be the best I expect from *any* of the "advocates".
>> 
> So far:

> * Peter Köhlmann has responded and noted the challenge is too much for
> him... all he could do was give the predicted insults as he ran from
> speaking of technology.

> * Owl tried to change the topic to using hot keys for every feature you can
> possibly do and not showing menus and otherwise just ran.

Make up your mind.  I thought you "made it clear you didn't care how
it was done."  Oh, that's just when you FAIL with that MacKro recorder
they stole from Windows 3.1.

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#318872

Snit wrote:

[...]

> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
>
> On Linux the way I think most would do it is save the file as PDF to their
> recipes folder, then dig down to it and open it (or save and open it on
> their desktop and move it to their recipes folder later), then edit it, then
> save it, then attach it to an email.

I don't think people on Linux, or any other system for that matter,
would follow the convoluted procedure you lay out above.

I for one would simply selcect "Email Link" from the browser menu, then
add any notes I had to the resulting email.

[...]

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#318911

Snit wrote:

> On 9/3/15, 5:26 PM, in article msaog2$3o6$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
>>> 
>>> On Linux the way I think most would do it is save the file as PDF to their
>>> recipes folder, then dig down to it and open it (or save and open it on
>>> their desktop and move it to their recipes folder later), then edit it, then
>>> save it, then attach it to an email.
>> 
>> I don't think people on Linux, or any other system for that matter,
>> would follow the convoluted procedure you lay out above.
>> 
>> I for one would simply selcect "Email Link" from the browser menu, then
>> add any notes I had to the resulting email.
>
> This does not offer the user an easy to print PDF where the note is already
> there.

The user doesn't need a PDF, just a link to the recipe, and if you want
to tell the person you subsituted coconut oil for butter, it can be said
in the email.  Your way is non-productive, inefficient, and error-prone.

> I do this with more than recipes, I send art projects and lesson
> plans and more where I sometimes want to put notes ON the PDF. And I do this
> a lot for students sending me screenshots and the like.

You're moving the goalposts.

> But, sure, if you have a system where doing this is not as easy you are
> likely to send the user a lower quality result, as you describe.

Linking the user to the original material is not a "lower quality
result."

> There are times when a simple link is fine...

As with the example as presented by you.

> but seems you are pretty much limited to
> that with your work flow.

Nonsense.

> On OS X I just drag the proxy icon to the Mail icon. Simple drag and drop.

Wasted effort.   Wasted time.

> There is also a "Share" menu where I can send to mail, Facebook, Messages,
> and more.

Justr send the person a link to the recipe.  Add any notes to the
resulting email.   Rapid, reliable, secure.

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#318917

On 9/4/15, 12:33 AM, in article msbhgg$vk2$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
<nobody@invalid.com> wrote:

> Snit wrote:
> 
>> On 9/3/15, 5:26 PM, in article msaog2$3o6$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Snit wrote:
>>> 
>>> [...]
>>> 
>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
>>>> 
>>>> On Linux the way I think most would do it is save the file as PDF to their
>>>> recipes folder, then dig down to it and open it (or save and open it on
>>>> their desktop and move it to their recipes folder later), then edit it,
>>>> then
>>>> save it, then attach it to an email.
>>> 
>>> I don't think people on Linux, or any other system for that matter,
>>> would follow the convoluted procedure you lay out above.
>>> 
>>> I for one would simply selcect "Email Link" from the browser menu, then
>>> add any notes I had to the resulting email.
>> 
>> This does not offer the user an easy to print PDF where the note is already
>> there.
> 
> The user doesn't need a PDF, just a link to the recipe, and if you want
> to tell the person you subsituted coconut oil for butter, it can be said
> in the email.  Your way is non-productive, inefficient, and error-prone.

Then they cannot just print the PDF in the email... and sending the link
also does not send a PDF they can easily print.

I do similar things often with things like recipes, lesson plans, questions
my students send me, etc. Comes down to you have no good method so you are
crying sour grapes.

And, heck, Owl's task is completely absurd - automate the downloading of the
print versions of all the recipes featured on the front page of
allrecipes.com. Far more specific and no good reason I can see to ever want
this - but I took him up on his challenge.

My solution is twice as fast (and that is after he sped his up after seeing
mine) and mine makes PDFs half the size.

But he still "beat" me on converting files to PDF from the file browser.
Fine. It is more about sharing and learning and teaching than who "wins".

>> I do this with more than recipes, I send art projects and lesson
>> plans and more where I sometimes want to put notes ON the PDF. And I do this
>> a lot for students sending me screenshots and the like.
> 
> You're moving the goalposts.

I am noting the workflow applies to more than just the specific I gave...
hence why it is a valid task. Comes down to you have no good method to do
this so you just make excuses. Fine. You would be better off just remaining
quiet. :)

>> But, sure, if you have a system where doing this is not as easy you are
>> likely to send the user a lower quality result, as you describe.
> 
> Linking the user to the original material is not a "lower quality
> result."

As described above: it is a lower quality result. No printable / savable PDF
with the full content.

Below you just go on making excuses. Fine: for you, Linux fails at doing
this task. I am OK with that.

>> There are times when a simple link is fine...
> 
> As with the example as presented by you.
> 
>> but seems you are pretty much limited to
>> that with your work flow.
> 
> Nonsense.
> 
>> On OS X I just drag the proxy icon to the Mail icon. Simple drag and drop.
> 
> Wasted effort.   Wasted time.
> 
>> There is also a "Share" menu where I can send to mail, Facebook, Messages,
>> and more.
> 
> Justr send the person a link to the recipe.  Add any notes to the
> resulting email.   Rapid, reliable, secure.

Not the task in question... but THAT task can be done on OS X with a simple
drag and drop to get the link to the mail client.

-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#319016

Snit wrote:

> On 9/4/15, 12:33 AM, in article msbhgg$vk2$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> On 9/3/15, 5:26 PM, in article msaog2$3o6$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> [...]
>>>> 
>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Linux the way I think most would do it is save the file as PDF to their
>>>>> recipes folder, then dig down to it and open it (or save and open it on
>>>>> their desktop and move it to their recipes folder later), then edit it,
>>>>> then
>>>>> save it, then attach it to an email.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think people on Linux, or any other system for that matter,
>>>> would follow the convoluted procedure you lay out above.
>>>> 
>>>> I for one would simply selcect "Email Link" from the browser menu, then
>>>> add any notes I had to the resulting email.
>>> 
>>> This does not offer the user an easy to print PDF where the note is already
>>> there.
>> 
>> The user doesn't need a PDF, just a link to the recipe, and if you want
>> to tell the person you subsituted coconut oil for butter, it can be said
>> in the email.  Your way is non-productive, inefficient, and error-prone.
>
> Then they cannot just print the PDF in the email... and sending the link
> also does not send a PDF they can easily print.

They don't need any of that.  All they need is the link that takes them
to the web page with the recipe.

> I do similar things often with things like recipes, lesson plans, questions
> my students send me, etc. Comes down to you have no good method so you are
> crying sour grapes.

My method beats the crap out of your way of doing it.  And the only
topic here is sending a recipe from a Web page with added notes, not all
that other goalpost moving stuff you're throwing in.

[useless bullshit snipped]

>> Just send the person a link to the recipe.  Add any notes to the
>> resulting email.   Rapid, reliable, secure.
>
> Not the task in question...

Yes it is.

>  but THAT task can be done on OS X with a simple
> drag and drop to get the link to the mail client.

There's no need to go down to the desktop and start moving icons around
when the browser menu provides everything needed.

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#319028

On 9/4/2015 8:16 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 9/4/15, 5:51 PM, in article msdeb8$5r7$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/4/15, 12:33 AM, in article msbhgg$vk2$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/3/15, 5:26 PM, in article msaog2$3o6$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Linux the way I think most would do it is save the file as PDF to
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> recipes folder, then dig down to it and open it (or save and open it on
>>>>>>> their desktop and move it to their recipes folder later), then edit it,
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> save it, then attach it to an email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think people on Linux, or any other system for that matter,
>>>>>> would follow the convoluted procedure you lay out above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I for one would simply selcect "Email Link" from the browser menu, then
>>>>>> add any notes I had to the resulting email.
>>>>>
>>>>> This does not offer the user an easy to print PDF where the note is already
>>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> The user doesn't need a PDF, just a link to the recipe, and if you want
>>>> to tell the person you subsituted coconut oil for butter, it can be said
>>>> in the email.  Your way is non-productive, inefficient, and error-prone.
>>>
>>> Then they cannot just print the PDF in the email... and sending the link
>>> also does not send a PDF they can easily print.
>>
>> They don't need any of that.  All they need is the link that takes them
>> to the web page with the recipe.
>>
>>> I do similar things often with things like recipes, lesson plans, questions
>>> my students send me, etc. Comes down to you have no good method so you are
>>> crying sour grapes.
>>
>> My method beats the crap out of your way of doing it.  And the only
>> topic here is sending a recipe from a Web page with added notes, not all
>> that other goalpost moving stuff you're throwing in.
>>
>> [useless bullshit snipped]
>>
>>>> Just send the person a link to the recipe.  Add any notes to the
>>>> resulting email.   Rapid, reliable, secure.
>>>
>>> Not the task in question...
>>
>> Yes it is.
>>
>>>   but THAT task can be done on OS X with a simple
>>> drag and drop to get the link to the mail client.
>>
>> There's no need to go down to the desktop and start moving icons around
>> when the browser menu provides everything needed.
>
> You can whine about how sour the grapes are all you want, but the task is
> easy to understand (more details in the video)
> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>:

No further details are needed.

> * Get an online recipe (or art project or lesson plan or whatever)

No, just an online recipe, the challenge you started this thread with.

> * Email and save a PDF of the webpage along with edits to that page

Unnecessary complications to send somebody a recipe for chocolate chip 
cookies with the suggestion butter be substituted by coconut oil.

> This is easy on OS X... and certainly possible on Linux. But when you see
> this task you decided it was too much and decided to do a different task
> which does not fit the criteria.

The criteria is not duplicating your convolutions with Mac OS X.  The 
task which "fits the criteria" is sending somebody a recipe with notes 
added.

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#319039

On 9/4/2015 9:33 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 9/4/15, 7:01 PM, in article msdide$d5c$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>> You can whine about how sour the grapes are all you want, but the task is
>>> easy to understand (more details in the video)
>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>:
>>
>> No further details are needed.
>
> Right... and you STILL failed.

Incorrect.  I gave a superior solution to your non-productive, 
inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.

>>> * Get an online recipe (or art project or lesson plan or whatever)
>>
>> No, just an online recipe, the challenge you started this thread with.
>
> I am happy if you use something else...

Why?

> but if you feel a recipe is required

Sending a recipe from a Web site with attached notes was your "challenge."

> go for it. Do your best.

Already done.

>>> * Email and save a PDF of the webpage along with edits to that page
>>
>> Unnecessary complications to send somebody a recipe for chocolate chip
>> cookies with the suggestion butter be substituted by coconut oil.
>
> Funny how you shoot yourself in the foot and insist it MUST be a recipe

Your "challenge" is to send a recipe from a Web site with attached notes.

> because that is what I showed but then run from this part of the task
> because you cannot find a good way to do it in Linux.

I showed you the best way to do it regardless of OS used.

>>> This is easy on OS X... and certainly possible on Linux. But when you see
>>> this task you decided it was too much and decided to do a different task
>>> which does not fit the criteria.
>>
>> The criteria is not duplicating your convolutions with Mac OS X.  The
>> task which "fits the criteria" is sending somebody a recipe with notes
>> added.
>
> LOL! You insist things must be done as I show...

Where did I do that?

> except the areas you cannot
> figure out how to do them on Linux.

I showed you the best way to do it regardless of OS used.

> You are unintentionally amusing. :)

So you're in your manic phase again.

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#319044

On 9/5/2015 1:18 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 9/4/15, 11:03 PM, in article mse0j0$mkr$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/4/2015 9:33 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 9/4/15, 7:01 PM, in article msdide$d5c$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You can whine about how sour the grapes are all you want, but the task is
>>>>> easy to understand (more details in the video)
>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>:
>>>>
>>>> No further details are needed.
>>>
>>> Right... and you STILL failed.
>>
>> Incorrect.  I gave a superior solution to your non-productive,
>> inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.
>
> You failed at this task and made excuses. In YOUR hands Linux is completely
> incapable of THIS task. Fine.

Incorrect.  I gave a superior solution to your non-productive, 
inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.

>>>>> * Get an online recipe (or art project or lesson plan or whatever)
>>>>
>>>> No, just an online recipe, the challenge you started this thread with.
>>>
>>> I am happy if you use something else...
>>
>> Why?

Lack of answer noted.

>>> but if you feel a recipe is required
>>
>> Sending a recipe from a Web site with attached notes was your "challenge."
>>
>>> go for it. Do your best.
>>
>> Already done.
>
> See how you shoot yourself in the foot - you insist on doing the particulars
> of my challenge and then you absolutely fail... and then make excuses.

Incorrect.  I gave a superior solution to your non-productive, 
inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.

>>>>> * Email and save a PDF of the webpage along with edits to that page
>>>>
>>>> Unnecessary complications to send somebody a recipe for chocolate chip
>>>> cookies with the suggestion butter be substituted by coconut oil.
>>>
>>> Funny how you shoot yourself in the foot and insist it MUST be a recipe
>>
>> Your "challenge" is to send a recipe from a Web site with attached notes.
>
> Send and save a PDF from an online recipe with the notes being tied to the
> PDF...

Send a recipe from a Web site with attached notes.  Creating a PDF file 
is unnecessary.

> a task you are incapable of doing so you make excuses.

Incorrect. I gave a superior solution to your non-productive, 
inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.

>>> because that is what I showed but then run from this part of the task
>>> because you cannot find a good way to do it in Linux.
>>
>> I showed you the best way to do it regardless of OS used.
>
> See: all you have is excuses as to why you cannot do the task described. Oh
> well. In your hands Linux is INCAPABLE of doing the task. Fine.

Incorrect. I gave a superior solution to your non-productive, 
inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.

>>>>> This is easy on OS X... and certainly possible on Linux. But when you see
>>>>> this task you decided it was too much and decided to do a different task
>>>>> which does not fit the criteria.
>>>>
>>>> The criteria is not duplicating your convolutions with Mac OS X.  The
>>>> task which "fits the criteria" is sending somebody a recipe with notes
>>>> added.
>>>
>>> LOL! You insist things must be done as I show...
>>
>> Where did I do that?
>
> When you insisted it had to be a recipe and not an art project or lesson
> plan or anything else.

The task given when you started this "challenge."  Moving the goalposts 
is not allowed.

> You wanted the specific task...

I want to stay with the task you gave in the OP.

> then failed at doing it.

Incorrect. I gave a superior solution to your non-productive, 
inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.

>>> except the areas you cannot
>>> figure out how to do them on Linux.
>>
>> I showed you the best way to do it regardless of OS used.
>
> A lie to run from the fact you cannot do the task.

Incorrect. I gave a superior solution to your non-productive, 
inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.

>>> You are unintentionally amusing. :)
>>
>> So you're in your manic phase again.
>
> LOL! You are the one posting over and over and over about how you cannot do
> a task I showed to be simple in OS X. Heck, I showed TWO workflows that I
> might use.

Incorrect. I gave a superior solution to your non-productive, 
inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.

> You showed you have no clue how to do it at all.

Incorrect. I gave a superior solution to your non-productive, 
inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.

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#319052

On 9/5/2015 2:17 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 9/4/15, 11:52 PM, in article mse3eu$r6b$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/5/2015 1:18 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 9/4/15, 11:03 PM, in article mse0j0$mkr$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/4/2015 9:33 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 9/4/15, 7:01 PM, in article msdide$d5c$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can whine about how sour the grapes are all you want, but the task is
>>>>>>> easy to understand (more details in the video)
>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No further details are needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right... and you STILL failed.
>>>>
>>>> Incorrect.  I gave a superior solution to your non-productive,
>>>> inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.
>>>
>>> You failed at this task and made excuses. In YOUR hands Linux is completely
>>> incapable of THIS task. Fine.
>>
>> Incorrect.  I gave a superior solution to your non-productive,
>> inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.
>>
>>>>>>> * Get an online recipe (or art project or lesson plan or whatever)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, just an online recipe, the challenge you started this thread with.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am happy if you use something else...
>>>>
>>>> Why?
>>
>> Lack of answer noted.
>>
>>>>> but if you feel a recipe is required
>>>>
>>>> Sending a recipe from a Web site with attached notes was your "challenge."
>>>>
>>>>> go for it. Do your best.
>>>>
>>>> Already done.
>>>
>>> See how you shoot yourself in the foot - you insist on doing the particulars
>>> of my challenge and then you absolutely fail... and then make excuses.
>>
>> Incorrect.  I gave a superior solution to your non-productive,
>> inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.
>>
>>>>>>> * Email and save a PDF of the webpage along with edits to that page
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unnecessary complications to send somebody a recipe for chocolate chip
>>>>>> cookies with the suggestion butter be substituted by coconut oil.
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny how you shoot yourself in the foot and insist it MUST be a recipe
>>>>
>>>> Your "challenge" is to send a recipe from a Web site with attached notes.
>>>
>>> Send and save a PDF from an online recipe with the notes being tied to the
>>> PDF...
>>
>> Send a recipe from a Web site with attached notes.  Creating a PDF file
>> is unnecessary.
>>
>>> a task you are incapable of doing so you make excuses.
>>
>> Incorrect. I gave a superior solution to your non-productive,
>> inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.
>>
>>>>> because that is what I showed but then run from this part of the task
>>>>> because you cannot find a good way to do it in Linux.
>>>>
>>>> I showed you the best way to do it regardless of OS used.
>>>
>>> See: all you have is excuses as to why you cannot do the task described. Oh
>>> well. In your hands Linux is INCAPABLE of doing the task. Fine.
>>
>> Incorrect. I gave a superior solution to your non-productive,
>> inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.
>>
>>>>>>> This is easy on OS X... and certainly possible on Linux. But when you see
>>>>>>> this task you decided it was too much and decided to do a different task
>>>>>>> which does not fit the criteria.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The criteria is not duplicating your convolutions with Mac OS X.  The
>>>>>> task which "fits the criteria" is sending somebody a recipe with notes
>>>>>> added.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL! You insist things must be done as I show...
>>>>
>>>> Where did I do that?
>>>
>>> When you insisted it had to be a recipe and not an art project or lesson
>>> plan or anything else.
>>
>> The task given when you started this "challenge."  Moving the goalposts
>> is not allowed.
>>
>>> You wanted the specific task...
>>
>> I want to stay with the task you gave in the OP.
>>
>>> then failed at doing it.
>>
>> Incorrect. I gave a superior solution to your non-productive,
>> inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.
>>
>>>>> except the areas you cannot
>>>>> figure out how to do them on Linux.
>>>>
>>>> I showed you the best way to do it regardless of OS used.
>>>
>>> A lie to run from the fact you cannot do the task.
>>
>> Incorrect. I gave a superior solution to your non-productive,
>> inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.
>>
>>>>> You are unintentionally amusing. :)
>>>>
>>>> So you're in your manic phase again.
>>>
>>> LOL! You are the one posting over and over and over about how you cannot do
>>> a task I showed to be simple in OS X. Heck, I showed TWO workflows that I
>>> might use.
>>
>> Incorrect. I gave a superior solution to your non-productive,
>> inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.
>>
>>> You showed you have no clue how to do it at all.
>>
>> Incorrect. I gave a superior solution to your non-productive,
>> inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.
>>
>>
> And now you troll instead of even trying the task. Fine, you cannot do it on
> Linux... not that it cannot be done... YOU cannot do it. Whatever.

Incorrect. I gave a superior solution to your non-productive, 
inefficient, error-prone way of doing it.

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#318956

On 2015-09-04, Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> On 9/3/15, 5:26 PM, in article msaog2$3o6$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Snit wrote:
>>> 

[deletia]

>>> I for one would simply selcect "Email Link" from the browser menu, then
>>> add any notes I had to the resulting email.
>>
>> This does not offer the user an easy to print PDF where the note is already
>> there.
>
> The user doesn't need a PDF, just a link to the recipe, and if you want
> to tell the person you subsituted coconut oil for butter, it can be said
> in the email.  Your way is non-productive, inefficient, and error-prone.
>
>> I do this with more than recipes, I send art projects and lesson
>> plans and more where I sometimes want to put notes ON the PDF. And I do this
>> a lot for students sending me screenshots and the like.
>
> You're moving the goalposts.
>
>> But, sure, if you have a system where doing this is not as easy you are
>> likely to send the user a lower quality result, as you describe.
>
> Linking the user to the original material is not a "lower quality
> result."
>
>> There are times when a simple link is fine...
>
> As with the example as presented by you.
>
>> but seems you are pretty much limited to
>> that with your work flow.
>
> Nonsense.
>
>> On OS X I just drag the proxy icon to the Mail icon. Simple drag and drop.
>
> Wasted effort.   Wasted time.
>
>> There is also a "Share" menu where I can send to mail, Facebook, Messages,
>> and more.
>
> Justr send the person a link to the recipe.  Add any notes to the
> resulting email.   Rapid, reliable, secure.

    ...and again, the problem with any "blind print" option is that you don't
know what layout tweaks and print options are appropriate. This is especially
true if you are talking about someone else entirely.

    Recipes in particular even have different formating options available for
printing for this very reason. Different people have different preferences.

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#318959

On 9/4/15, 9:19 AM, in article slrnmujh46.4i7.jedi@nomad.mishnet, "JEDIDIAH"
<jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:

> On 2015-09-04, Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>> Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> On 9/3/15, 5:26 PM, in article msaog2$3o6$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>> 
> 
> [deletia]
> 
>>>> I for one would simply selcect "Email Link" from the browser menu, then
>>>> add any notes I had to the resulting email.
>>> 
>>> This does not offer the user an easy to print PDF where the note is already
>>> there.
>> 
>> The user doesn't need a PDF, just a link to the recipe, and if you want
>> to tell the person you subsituted coconut oil for butter, it can be said
>> in the email.  Your way is non-productive, inefficient, and error-prone.
>> 
>>> I do this with more than recipes, I send art projects and lesson
>>> plans and more where I sometimes want to put notes ON the PDF. And I do this
>>> a lot for students sending me screenshots and the like.
>> 
>> You're moving the goalposts.
>> 
>>> But, sure, if you have a system where doing this is not as easy you are
>>> likely to send the user a lower quality result, as you describe.
>> 
>> Linking the user to the original material is not a "lower quality
>> result."
>> 
>>> There are times when a simple link is fine...
>> 
>> As with the example as presented by you.
>> 
>>> but seems you are pretty much limited to
>>> that with your work flow.
>> 
>> Nonsense.
>> 
>>> On OS X I just drag the proxy icon to the Mail icon. Simple drag and drop.
>> 
>> Wasted effort.   Wasted time.
>> 
>>> There is also a "Share" menu where I can send to mail, Facebook, Messages,
>>> and more.
>> 
>> Justr send the person a link to the recipe.  Add any notes to the
>> resulting email.   Rapid, reliable, secure.
> 
>     ...and again, the problem with any "blind print" option is that you don't
> know what layout tweaks and print options are appropriate. This is especially
> true if you are talking about someone else entirely.
> 
>     Recipes in particular even have different formating options available for
> printing for this very reason. Different people have different preferences.

Right. So? Pick the preferences you want for the file. I am fine with that.


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#318955

On 2015-09-04, Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
>>
>> On Linux the way I think most would do it is save the file as PDF to their
>> recipes folder, then dig down to it and open it (or save and open it on
>> their desktop and move it to their recipes folder later), then edit it, then
>> save it, then attach it to an email.
>
> I don't think people on Linux, or any other system for that matter,
> would follow the convoluted procedure you lay out above.
>
> I for one would simply selcect "Email Link" from the browser menu, then
> add any notes I had to the resulting email.

    ...of course, everyone was forgetting the easy and obvious solution.

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