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Re: A challenge for the "advocates"

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: A challenge for the "advocates"
Date	2015-09-01 18:02 -0700
Message-ID	<D20B98B2.599FF%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 9/1/15, 2:08 PM, in article D20B61D9.59985%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com,
"Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> Would love to see if the "advocates" are capable of speaking about
> technology. Elsewhere I noted, about choice, that my view is desktop Linux
> offers little of it: you have a bunch of distros all tied to the same
> ecosystem that offers very little choice. I can show workflows and products
> which demonstrate this:
> 
> Some workflows which, as far as I know, cannot be equaled on Linux:
> 
> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
> 
> On Linux the way I think most would do it is save the file as PDF to their
> recipes folder, then dig down to it and open it (or save and open it on
> their desktop and move it to their recipes folder later), then edit it, then
> save it, then attach it to an email.
> 
> There are PDF editors which do have something akin to the "Share" menu which
> is common on OS X, even if not as standardized, so that might give a way to
> streamline things a bit more than adding an attachment by digging down again
> (not that it would be the end of the world even if you had to... just noting
> it is not as streamlined).
> 
> As far as content I doubt anyone in COLA could replicate on Linux, look what
> I did to show *another* point... was not even made to show off screencasting
> skills: 
> 
> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>.
> 
> In that video I:
> * Replace the mouse cursor in post production to ease following the action
>   (whole video)
> * Highlight a window (from about 10-20 seconds). It stays highlighted
>   even as I resize and move it.
> * Zoom in on the area around the mouse and dim the rest of the screen
>   (at about 45 seconds, and again later)
> * Highlight and zoom in on a rectangle to show the "action" there
>   (at about 1:15)
> 
> Of people in COLA, Owl has shown the greatest skill at screen recording on
> Linux. His videos, as beneficial as they are (and I do not mean to put them
> down in any way) are less crisp (could be the site he uses?) but also do not
> include any such features. These things are trivial on OS X and, as far as I
> know, completely beyond the capability of any program the "advocates" use on
> Linux (at least not without a *lot* of work).
> 
> Prediction: the herd will deny this. Of *course* they could show Linux doing
> as smooth of a workflow for the recipe. Of *course* they could show a video
> where they do the things I list. But they will not because blame Snit,
> everyone is Snit, Snit tells unquotable lies, wah wah wah. It really is
> likely to be the best I expect from *any* of the "advocates".

So far:

* Peter Köhlmann has responded and noted the challenge is too much for
him... all he could do was give the predicted insults as he ran from
speaking of technology.

* Owl tried to change the topic to using hot keys for every feature you can
possibly do and not showing menus and otherwise just ran.

* Vallor spewed a bunch of nonsense and ran off whining that I am actually
asking the "advocates" to show the benefits of the "choice" they claim Linux
gives them.

Any "advocate" think they can do better? Seems not. So the whole "choice"
thing on Linux is not really showing itself to be much of anything... just
an empty claim.


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Thread

A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 14:08 -0700
  Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 23:42 +0200
    Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 15:32 -0700
    Re: A challenge for the "advocates" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-02 08:20 +0000
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 04:52 -0700
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 12:49 +0000
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-02 08:04 -0500
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 10:36 -0400
          Re: A challenge for the "advocates" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 15:01 +0000
            Re: A challenge for the "advocates" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 15:29 +0000
              Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 08:48 -0700
          Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 13:49 -0700
            Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 17:38 -0700
            Re: A challenge for the "advocates" GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-02 21:58 -0600
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-02 19:41 +0000
          Re: A challenge for the "advocates" ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 23:41 +0000
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-03 09:27 -0400
  Snit!  Give it up, YOU degenerate. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 14:43 -0700
    Re: Snit!  Give it up, YOU degenerate. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-01 23:55 +0000
      Re: Snit!  Give it up, YOU degenerate. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 18:44 -0700
  Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 14:57 -0700
    Re: A challenge for the "advocates" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:39 +0000
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:44 -0700
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:10 +0000
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:52 -0700
  Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 18:02 -0700
    Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 08:13 +0200
      Re: Another Snit Circus attempt. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 04:50 -0700
  Re: A challenge for the "advocates" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 14:56 +0000
  Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 00:26 +0000
    Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 07:33 +0000
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 00:44 -0700
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 00:51 +0000
          Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 21:01 -0500
            Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 01:03 -0500
              Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 01:52 -0500
                Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 02:23 -0500
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-04 11:19 -0500
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 09:47 -0700
    Re: A challenge for the "advocates" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-04 11:15 -0500
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 09:49 -0700
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 21:08 -0500
          Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 00:54 -0500
            Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 01:54 -0500
              Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 02:23 -0500
      Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 21:06 -0500
        Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 00:57 -0500
          Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 01:56 -0500
            Re: A challenge for the "advocates" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-05 02:24 -0500

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