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| Started by | Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-11-27 04:25 -0800 |
| Last post | 2016-11-30 09:14 -0800 |
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What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 04:25 -0800
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 04:28 -0800
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:01 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:00 -0800
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:14 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:20 -0800
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:25 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 19:45 -0800
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 09:52 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-27 09:41 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-27 15:08 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:14 -0800
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-27 17:00 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 14:29 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:02 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-11-27 13:13 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 08:41 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:51 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 09:11 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-11-27 14:52 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 10:20 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:50 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:07 -0800
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:13 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:17 -0800
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:24 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-27 17:48 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-28 12:40 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-28 21:39 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-11-28 15:05 -0600
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-28 19:53 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-29 19:31 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-30 06:26 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-30 14:36 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Joey Fringo <fringo99@europe.com> - 2016-12-01 03:18 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-27 09:36 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-27 15:06 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 11:02 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 14:45 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 17:01 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 23:16 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 17:44 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 23:45 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 17:50 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 23:53 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:00 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:07 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:19 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-27 18:05 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:13 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:17 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-27 18:04 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:16 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-27 18:02 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:10 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 18:59 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 18:44 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:48 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:52 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-28 12:36 -0700
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-11-28 14:04 -0600
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 14:06 -0700
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-29 14:36 -0700
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 20:22 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-29 14:37 -0700
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 19:02 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 19:08 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 01:17 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 19:27 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 19:45 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 19:51 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:00 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 20:02 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:05 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 20:25 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:34 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 20:54 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 03:38 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 22:20 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-28 08:49 -0600
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-28 12:40 -0700
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-28 20:01 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-29 07:59 -0600
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:00 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-27 23:14 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 18:57 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 00:47 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 20:01 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 01:27 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 17:37 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-28 13:26 -0700
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 14:07 -0700
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-28 22:29 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 14:37 -0700
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-29 01:52 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 18:21 -0700
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-29 07:06 -0600
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-29 08:59 -0700
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-29 19:30 +0100
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-29 11:42 -0700
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-29 14:39 -0700
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-28 10:28 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-29 20:03 -0500
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 18:05 -0800
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-30 14:31 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-11-30 10:23 -0600
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 03:03 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Joey Fringo <fringo99@europe.com> - 2016-12-01 03:14 +0000
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-12-01 13:31 -0700
Re: What a Putz that Gnome be fr314159@gmail.com - 2016-11-30 09:14 -0800
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-28 14:04 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <0o2dnXO_6MR-EKHFnZ2dnUU7-N2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #382410 |
On 2016-11-28, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote: > What's the point of adding a user account and no existing home directory > for that added user? > It seems to be un-UNIX or a deviation therein. First of all, many UNIX and Linux systems have a script which walks you through adding users and will offer to add a home directory. But any UNIX/Linux user should know how do this on the command line. Let's assume you want to use UNIX/Linux as a central storage facility for something. You could create users without home directories and thus groups and permissions to the shared storage. They don't need actual home directories on that storage facility. -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-28 14:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D461EA64.83A5A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #382412 |
On 11/28/16, 1:04 PM, in article 0o2dnXO_6MR-EKHFnZ2dnUU7-N2dnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny" <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: > On 2016-11-28, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote: >> What's the point of adding a user account and no existing home directory >> for that added user? >> It seems to be un-UNIX or a deviation therein. > > First of all, many UNIX and Linux systems have a script which walks you > through adding users and will offer to add a home directory. But any > UNIX/Linux user should know how do this on the command line. Nice if they DO know... but to say they "should"? Why? Because it is your preferred method? > Let's assume you want to use UNIX/Linux as a central storage facility > for something. You could create users without home directories and thus > groups and permissions to the shared storage. They don't need actual > home directories on that storage facility. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-29 14:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <o1ks9m$8et$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382412 |
On 11/28/16 13:04, Marek Novotny wrote: > On 2016-11-28, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com> wrote: >> What's the point of adding a user account and no existing home directory >> for that added user? >> It seems to be un-UNIX or a deviation therein. > > First of all, many UNIX and Linux systems have a script which walks you > through adding users and will offer to add a home directory. But any > UNIX/Linux user should know how do this on the command line. > > Let's assume you want to use UNIX/Linux as a central storage facility > for something. You could create users without home directories and thus > groups and permissions to the shared storage. They don't need actual > home directories on that storage facility. > Yes, that is what the Solaris man pages are pointing out. Another Item I have forgotten over the decades. Suns man page is the same man page in Linux.
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| From | deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-11-28 20:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ahjdis993.ag@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #382410 |
GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote: > On 11/27/16 16:52, flatfish+++ wrote: >> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 00:48:44 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:44:07 -0500 >>> DFS<nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/27/2016 05:16 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:45:02 -0500 >>>>> DFS<nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/27/2016 07:25 AM, Takuya Saitoh wrote: >>>>>>> Another update, another wasted day, another headache... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> After updating to Gnome 3.22 today, the system refused to logon >>>>>>> anyone more then once and switching users became impossible too. >>>>>>> So instead of logout yo got to do reboot each time and even then, >>>>>>> the sucker refused to log yo on at times despite of fresh >>>>>>> reboot. After wasting a day searching for clues for the >>>>>>> meaningless syslog messages like "Unrecoverable failure in >>>>>>> required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop" I finally arrived at >>>>>>> the solution: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=219576 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course, the f*ckers changed the default login so Wayland is >>>>>>> used without any clues or warning particularly to the NVIDIA >>>>>>> users... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NEVER update yo Linux system or get ready for big headache each >>>>>>> time yo do... Happy Appil and Windoze users, the money save them >>>>>>> lot of time and ruined nerves. Of course, the bored pensionists >>>>>>> and hobbists can always play with dozen of distros to find one >>>>>>> which will finally install and run on their hardware. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo useradd user2 >>>>>> [sudo] password for dfs: >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo passwd user2 >>>>>> New password: >>>>>> Retype new password: >>>>>> passwd: password updated successfully >>>>>> >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ tail -2 /etc/passwd >>>>>> dfs:x:1000:1000:DFS,,,,:/home/dfs:/bin/bash >>>>>> user2:x:1001:1001::/home/user2:/bin/bash >>>>>> >>>>>> Using xfce. GUI logout from user dfs, and it won't allow me to >>>>>> switch to user2. Just stays in an endless login loop. I can log >>>>>> back in as dfs no problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami >>>>>> dfs >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ su - user2 >>>>>> Password: >>>>>> su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/user2: No such file >>>>>> or directory >>>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ whoami >>>>>> user2 >>>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ exit >>>>>> logout >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami >>>>>> dfs >>>>>> >>>>>> Turns out you have to have a 'CREATE_HOME yes' entry >>>>>> in /etc/login.defs before Linux useradd will automatically create a >>>>>> $HOME folder for new users. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's hobbyware in action: the password file says there's a $HOME >>>>>> folder, but there's not. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hm, I am using KDE on Manjaro, created user from GUI Manjaro >>>>> settings manager no problem... logged in another session as that >>>>> user, changed user details in KDE GUI Account details no problem... >>>>> useradd also works but if you read documentation you have to add -m >>>>> option if you want to create user home directory... >>>> >>>> >>>> You don't have to use -m. If /etc/login.defs contains 'CREATE_HOME >>>> yes', -m isn't necessary. >>>> >>>> >>>> 1) after creating a new user via useradd I can't logout then login as >>>> the new user, even if the new user has a $HOME. It just goes >>>> into an endless login cycle. >>>> >>>> 2) useradd updates /etc/passwd to say the user has a home folder, even >>>> if it's not there. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Are you really that stupid? >> >> If DFS is expecting Manjaro to work he is just a little bit naive. >> The same can be said of most Linux distributions though. >> >> Crapware. >> > > What's the point of adding a user account and no existing home directory > for that added user? > It seems to be un-UNIX or a deviation therein. > A home directory is not required. One is not even required to be listed in /etc/passwd. This is not exclusive to Linux. OpenBSD and Solaris behave the same way.
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| From | GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-29 14:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <o1ksbl$8et$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382413 |
On 11/28/16 13:22, deplorable owl wrote: > GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com> wrote: >> On 11/27/16 16:52, flatfish+++ wrote: >>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 00:48:44 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:44:07 -0500 >>>> DFS<nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 11/27/2016 05:16 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:45:02 -0500 >>>>>> DFS<nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/27/2016 07:25 AM, Takuya Saitoh wrote: >>>>>>>> Another update, another wasted day, another headache... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> After updating to Gnome 3.22 today, the system refused to logon >>>>>>>> anyone more then once and switching users became impossible too. >>>>>>>> So instead of logout yo got to do reboot each time and even then, >>>>>>>> the sucker refused to log yo on at times despite of fresh >>>>>>>> reboot. After wasting a day searching for clues for the >>>>>>>> meaningless syslog messages like "Unrecoverable failure in >>>>>>>> required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop" I finally arrived at >>>>>>>> the solution: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=219576 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course, the f*ckers changed the default login so Wayland is >>>>>>>> used without any clues or warning particularly to the NVIDIA >>>>>>>> users... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> NEVER update yo Linux system or get ready for big headache each >>>>>>>> time yo do... Happy Appil and Windoze users, the money save them >>>>>>>> lot of time and ruined nerves. Of course, the bored pensionists >>>>>>>> and hobbists can always play with dozen of distros to find one >>>>>>>> which will finally install and run on their hardware. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo useradd user2 >>>>>>> [sudo] password for dfs: >>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo passwd user2 >>>>>>> New password: >>>>>>> Retype new password: >>>>>>> passwd: password updated successfully >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ tail -2 /etc/passwd >>>>>>> dfs:x:1000:1000:DFS,,,,:/home/dfs:/bin/bash >>>>>>> user2:x:1001:1001::/home/user2:/bin/bash >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Using xfce. GUI logout from user dfs, and it won't allow me to >>>>>>> switch to user2. Just stays in an endless login loop. I can log >>>>>>> back in as dfs no problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami >>>>>>> dfs >>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ su - user2 >>>>>>> Password: >>>>>>> su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/user2: No such file >>>>>>> or directory >>>>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ whoami >>>>>>> user2 >>>>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ exit >>>>>>> logout >>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami >>>>>>> dfs >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Turns out you have to have a 'CREATE_HOME yes' entry >>>>>>> in /etc/login.defs before Linux useradd will automatically create a >>>>>>> $HOME folder for new users. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's hobbyware in action: the password file says there's a $HOME >>>>>>> folder, but there's not. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hm, I am using KDE on Manjaro, created user from GUI Manjaro >>>>>> settings manager no problem... logged in another session as that >>>>>> user, changed user details in KDE GUI Account details no problem... >>>>>> useradd also works but if you read documentation you have to add -m >>>>>> option if you want to create user home directory... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You don't have to use -m. If /etc/login.defs contains 'CREATE_HOME >>>>> yes', -m isn't necessary. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1) after creating a new user via useradd I can't logout then login as >>>>> the new user, even if the new user has a $HOME. It just goes >>>>> into an endless login cycle. >>>>> >>>>> 2) useradd updates /etc/passwd to say the user has a home folder, even >>>>> if it's not there. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Are you really that stupid? >>> >>> If DFS is expecting Manjaro to work he is just a little bit naive. >>> The same can be said of most Linux distributions though. >>> >>> Crapware. >>> >> >> What's the point of adding a user account and no existing home directory >> for that added user? >> It seems to be un-UNIX or a deviation therein. >> > > A home directory is not required. One is not even required to be > listed in /etc/passwd. This is not exclusive to Linux. OpenBSD > and Solaris behave the same way. > Of course. I was just trying to open up a discussion on its uses and for what purposes. Hopefully, I'll get to read some of the other purposes.
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-27 19:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <o1fs4d$daq$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382314 |
On 11/27/2016 06:48 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:44:07 -0500 > DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: > >> On 11/27/2016 05:16 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:45:02 -0500 >>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/27/2016 07:25 AM, Takuya Saitoh wrote: >>>>> Another update, another wasted day, another headache... >>>>> >>>>> After updating to Gnome 3.22 today, the system refused to logon >>>>> anyone more then once and switching users became impossible too. >>>>> So instead of logout yo got to do reboot each time and even then, >>>>> the sucker refused to log yo on at times despite of fresh >>>>> reboot. After wasting a day searching for clues for the >>>>> meaningless syslog messages like "Unrecoverable failure in >>>>> required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop" I finally arrived at >>>>> the solution: >>>>> >>>>> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=219576 >>>>> >>>>> Of course, the f*ckers changed the default login so Wayland is >>>>> used without any clues or warning particularly to the NVIDIA >>>>> users... >>>>> >>>>> NEVER update yo Linux system or get ready for big headache each >>>>> time yo do... Happy Appil and Windoze users, the money save them >>>>> lot of time and ruined nerves. Of course, the bored pensionists >>>>> and hobbists can always play with dozen of distros to find one >>>>> which will finally install and run on their hardware. >>>> >>>> >>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo useradd user2 >>>> [sudo] password for dfs: >>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo passwd user2 >>>> New password: >>>> Retype new password: >>>> passwd: password updated successfully >>>> >>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ tail -2 /etc/passwd >>>> dfs:x:1000:1000:DFS,,,,:/home/dfs:/bin/bash >>>> user2:x:1001:1001::/home/user2:/bin/bash >>>> >>>> Using xfce. GUI logout from user dfs, and it won't allow me to >>>> switch to user2. Just stays in an endless login loop. I can log >>>> back in as dfs no problem. >>>> >>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami >>>> dfs >>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ su - user2 >>>> Password: >>>> su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/user2: No such file >>>> or directory >>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ whoami >>>> user2 >>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ exit >>>> logout >>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami >>>> dfs >>>> >>>> Turns out you have to have a 'CREATE_HOME yes' entry >>>> in /etc/login.defs before Linux useradd will automatically create a >>>> $HOME folder for new users. >>>> >>>> That's hobbyware in action: the password file says there's a $HOME >>>> folder, but there's not. >>>> >>> >>> Hm, I am using KDE on Manjaro, created user from GUI Manjaro >>> settings manager no problem... logged in another session as that >>> user, changed user details in KDE GUI Account details no problem... >>> useradd also works but if you read documentation you have to add -m >>> option if you want to create user home directory... >> >> >> You don't have to use -m. If /etc/login.defs contains 'CREATE_HOME >> yes', -m isn't necessary. >> >> >> 1) after creating a new user via useradd I can't logout then login as >> the new user, even if the new user has a $HOME. It just goes >> into an endless login cycle. >> >> 2) useradd updates /etc/passwd to say the user has a home folder, even >> if it's not there. >> >> >> > > Are you really that stupid? Can you not read, fool? It's 2 more hobbyware failures.
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| From | flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-11-27 19:08 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ea1ar7FtfglU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #382318 |
On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:02:33 -0500, DFS wrote: > On 11/27/2016 06:48 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:44:07 -0500 >> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >> >>> On 11/27/2016 05:16 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:45:02 -0500 >>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 11/27/2016 07:25 AM, Takuya Saitoh wrote: >>>>>> Another update, another wasted day, another headache... >>>>>> >>>>>> After updating to Gnome 3.22 today, the system refused to logon >>>>>> anyone more then once and switching users became impossible too. >>>>>> So instead of logout yo got to do reboot each time and even then, >>>>>> the sucker refused to log yo on at times despite of fresh >>>>>> reboot. After wasting a day searching for clues for the >>>>>> meaningless syslog messages like "Unrecoverable failure in >>>>>> required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop" I finally arrived at >>>>>> the solution: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=219576 >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, the f*ckers changed the default login so Wayland is >>>>>> used without any clues or warning particularly to the NVIDIA >>>>>> users... >>>>>> >>>>>> NEVER update yo Linux system or get ready for big headache each >>>>>> time yo do... Happy Appil and Windoze users, the money save them >>>>>> lot of time and ruined nerves. Of course, the bored pensionists >>>>>> and hobbists can always play with dozen of distros to find one >>>>>> which will finally install and run on their hardware. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo useradd user2 >>>>> [sudo] password for dfs: >>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo passwd user2 >>>>> New password: >>>>> Retype new password: >>>>> passwd: password updated successfully >>>>> >>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ tail -2 /etc/passwd >>>>> dfs:x:1000:1000:DFS,,,,:/home/dfs:/bin/bash >>>>> user2:x:1001:1001::/home/user2:/bin/bash >>>>> >>>>> Using xfce. GUI logout from user dfs, and it won't allow me to >>>>> switch to user2. Just stays in an endless login loop. I can log >>>>> back in as dfs no problem. >>>>> >>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami >>>>> dfs >>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ su - user2 >>>>> Password: >>>>> su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/user2: No such file >>>>> or directory >>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ whoami >>>>> user2 >>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ exit >>>>> logout >>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami >>>>> dfs >>>>> >>>>> Turns out you have to have a 'CREATE_HOME yes' entry >>>>> in /etc/login.defs before Linux useradd will automatically create a >>>>> $HOME folder for new users. >>>>> >>>>> That's hobbyware in action: the password file says there's a $HOME >>>>> folder, but there's not. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hm, I am using KDE on Manjaro, created user from GUI Manjaro >>>> settings manager no problem... logged in another session as that >>>> user, changed user details in KDE GUI Account details no problem... >>>> useradd also works but if you read documentation you have to add -m >>>> option if you want to create user home directory... >>> >>> >>> You don't have to use -m. If /etc/login.defs contains 'CREATE_HOME >>> yes', -m isn't necessary. >>> >>> >>> 1) after creating a new user via useradd I can't logout then login as >>> the new user, even if the new user has a $HOME. It just goes >>> into an endless login cycle. >>> >>> 2) useradd updates /etc/passwd to say the user has a home folder, even >>> if it's not there. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Are you really that stupid? > > > Can you not read, fool? It's 2 more hobbyware failures. They can read. They will defend their shit Linux to the death. Facts have no place in COLA. -- flatfish+++ mariana trench
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| From | Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-11-28 01:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20161128011702.0af581aa@maxa-pc> |
| In reply to | #382318 |
On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:02:33 -0500 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: > On 11/27/2016 06:48 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:44:07 -0500 > > DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: > > > >> On 11/27/2016 05:16 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: > >>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:45:02 -0500 > >>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 11/27/2016 07:25 AM, Takuya Saitoh wrote: > >>>>> Another update, another wasted day, another headache... > >>>>> > >>>>> After updating to Gnome 3.22 today, the system refused to logon > >>>>> anyone more then once and switching users became impossible too. > >>>>> So instead of logout yo got to do reboot each time and even > >>>>> then, the sucker refused to log yo on at times despite of fresh > >>>>> reboot. After wasting a day searching for clues for the > >>>>> meaningless syslog messages like "Unrecoverable failure in > >>>>> required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop" I finally arrived at > >>>>> the solution: > >>>>> > >>>>> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=219576 > >>>>> > >>>>> Of course, the f*ckers changed the default login so Wayland is > >>>>> used without any clues or warning particularly to the NVIDIA > >>>>> users... > >>>>> > >>>>> NEVER update yo Linux system or get ready for big headache each > >>>>> time yo do... Happy Appil and Windoze users, the money save > >>>>> them lot of time and ruined nerves. Of course, the bored > >>>>> pensionists and hobbists can always play with dozen of distros > >>>>> to find one which will finally install and run on their > >>>>> hardware. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo useradd user2 > >>>> [sudo] password for dfs: > >>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo passwd user2 > >>>> New password: > >>>> Retype new password: > >>>> passwd: password updated successfully > >>>> > >>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ tail -2 /etc/passwd > >>>> dfs:x:1000:1000:DFS,,,,:/home/dfs:/bin/bash > >>>> user2:x:1001:1001::/home/user2:/bin/bash > >>>> > >>>> Using xfce. GUI logout from user dfs, and it won't allow me to > >>>> switch to user2. Just stays in an endless login loop. I can log > >>>> back in as dfs no problem. > >>>> > >>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami > >>>> dfs > >>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ su - user2 > >>>> Password: > >>>> su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/user2: No such file > >>>> or directory > >>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ whoami > >>>> user2 > >>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ exit > >>>> logout > >>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami > >>>> dfs > >>>> > >>>> Turns out you have to have a 'CREATE_HOME yes' entry > >>>> in /etc/login.defs before Linux useradd will automatically > >>>> create a $HOME folder for new users. > >>>> > >>>> That's hobbyware in action: the password file says there's a > >>>> $HOME folder, but there's not. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Hm, I am using KDE on Manjaro, created user from GUI Manjaro > >>> settings manager no problem... logged in another session as that > >>> user, changed user details in KDE GUI Account details no > >>> problem... useradd also works but if you read documentation you > >>> have to add -m option if you want to create user home > >>> directory... > >> > >> > >> You don't have to use -m. If /etc/login.defs contains 'CREATE_HOME > >> yes', -m isn't necessary. > >> > >> > >> 1) after creating a new user via useradd I can't logout then login > >> as the new user, even if the new user has a $HOME. It just goes > >> into an endless login cycle. > >> > >> 2) useradd updates /etc/passwd to say the user has a home folder, > >> even if it's not there. > >> > >> > >> > > > > Are you really that stupid? > > > Can you not read, fool? It's 2 more hobbyware failures. > > No, dumbass, it is not failure but WAD... Anyway, idiot, how come you haven't tried Manjaro settings manager? -- press any key to continue or any other to quit
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| From | flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-11-27 19:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ea1bvsFto4qU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #382327 |
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 01:17:02 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:02:33 -0500 > DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: > >> On 11/27/2016 06:48 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:44:07 -0500 >>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/27/2016 05:16 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:45:02 -0500 >>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/27/2016 07:25 AM, Takuya Saitoh wrote: >>>>>>> Another update, another wasted day, another headache... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> After updating to Gnome 3.22 today, the system refused to logon >>>>>>> anyone more then once and switching users became impossible too. >>>>>>> So instead of logout yo got to do reboot each time and even >>>>>>> then, the sucker refused to log yo on at times despite of fresh >>>>>>> reboot. After wasting a day searching for clues for the >>>>>>> meaningless syslog messages like "Unrecoverable failure in >>>>>>> required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop" I finally arrived at >>>>>>> the solution: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=219576 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course, the f*ckers changed the default login so Wayland is >>>>>>> used without any clues or warning particularly to the NVIDIA >>>>>>> users... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NEVER update yo Linux system or get ready for big headache each >>>>>>> time yo do... Happy Appil and Windoze users, the money save >>>>>>> them lot of time and ruined nerves. Of course, the bored >>>>>>> pensionists and hobbists can always play with dozen of distros >>>>>>> to find one which will finally install and run on their >>>>>>> hardware. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo useradd user2 >>>>>> [sudo] password for dfs: >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo passwd user2 >>>>>> New password: >>>>>> Retype new password: >>>>>> passwd: password updated successfully >>>>>> >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ tail -2 /etc/passwd >>>>>> dfs:x:1000:1000:DFS,,,,:/home/dfs:/bin/bash >>>>>> user2:x:1001:1001::/home/user2:/bin/bash >>>>>> >>>>>> Using xfce. GUI logout from user dfs, and it won't allow me to >>>>>> switch to user2. Just stays in an endless login loop. I can log >>>>>> back in as dfs no problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami >>>>>> dfs >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ su - user2 >>>>>> Password: >>>>>> su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/user2: No such file >>>>>> or directory >>>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ whoami >>>>>> user2 >>>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ exit >>>>>> logout >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami >>>>>> dfs >>>>>> >>>>>> Turns out you have to have a 'CREATE_HOME yes' entry >>>>>> in /etc/login.defs before Linux useradd will automatically >>>>>> create a $HOME folder for new users. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's hobbyware in action: the password file says there's a >>>>>> $HOME folder, but there's not. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hm, I am using KDE on Manjaro, created user from GUI Manjaro >>>>> settings manager no problem... logged in another session as that >>>>> user, changed user details in KDE GUI Account details no >>>>> problem... useradd also works but if you read documentation you >>>>> have to add -m option if you want to create user home >>>>> directory... >>>> >>>> >>>> You don't have to use -m. If /etc/login.defs contains 'CREATE_HOME >>>> yes', -m isn't necessary. >>>> >>>> >>>> 1) after creating a new user via useradd I can't logout then login >>>> as the new user, even if the new user has a $HOME. It just goes >>>> into an endless login cycle. >>>> >>>> 2) useradd updates /etc/passwd to say the user has a home folder, >>>> even if it's not there. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Are you really that stupid? >> >> >> Can you not read, fool? It's 2 more hobbyware failures. >> >> > > No, dumbass, it is not failure but WAD... > Anyway, idiot, how come you haven't tried Manjaro settings manager? In the Linux world WAD (working as designed) means it's borked from the start and a losing battle. One thing about Linux is that it is consistent. Consistently defective. -- flatfish+++ mariana trench
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-11-27 19:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <o1fulq$l24$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382327 |
On 11/27/2016 07:17 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:02:33 -0500
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/27/2016 06:48 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:44:07 -0500
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/27/2016 05:16 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:45:02 -0500
>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/27/2016 07:25 AM, Takuya Saitoh wrote:
>>>>>>> Another update, another wasted day, another headache...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After updating to Gnome 3.22 today, the system refused to logon
>>>>>>> anyone more then once and switching users became impossible too.
>>>>>>> So instead of logout yo got to do reboot each time and even
>>>>>>> then, the sucker refused to log yo on at times despite of fresh
>>>>>>> reboot. After wasting a day searching for clues for the
>>>>>>> meaningless syslog messages like "Unrecoverable failure in
>>>>>>> required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop" I finally arrived at
>>>>>>> the solution:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=219576
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course, the f*ckers changed the default login so Wayland is
>>>>>>> used without any clues or warning particularly to the NVIDIA
>>>>>>> users...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NEVER update yo Linux system or get ready for big headache each
>>>>>>> time yo do... Happy Appil and Windoze users, the money save
>>>>>>> them lot of time and ruined nerves. Of course, the bored
>>>>>>> pensionists and hobbists can always play with dozen of distros
>>>>>>> to find one which will finally install and run on their
>>>>>>> hardware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo useradd user2
>>>>>> [sudo] password for dfs:
>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo passwd user2
>>>>>> New password:
>>>>>> Retype new password:
>>>>>> passwd: password updated successfully
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ tail -2 /etc/passwd
>>>>>> dfs:x:1000:1000:DFS,,,,:/home/dfs:/bin/bash
>>>>>> user2:x:1001:1001::/home/user2:/bin/bash
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using xfce. GUI logout from user dfs, and it won't allow me to
>>>>>> switch to user2. Just stays in an endless login loop. I can log
>>>>>> back in as dfs no problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami
>>>>>> dfs
>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ su - user2
>>>>>> Password:
>>>>>> su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/user2: No such file
>>>>>> or directory
>>>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ whoami
>>>>>> user2
>>>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ exit
>>>>>> logout
>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami
>>>>>> dfs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Turns out you have to have a 'CREATE_HOME yes' entry
>>>>>> in /etc/login.defs before Linux useradd will automatically
>>>>>> create a $HOME folder for new users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's hobbyware in action: the password file says there's a
>>>>>> $HOME folder, but there's not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hm, I am using KDE on Manjaro, created user from GUI Manjaro
>>>>> settings manager no problem... logged in another session as that
>>>>> user, changed user details in KDE GUI Account details no
>>>>> problem... useradd also works but if you read documentation you
>>>>> have to add -m option if you want to create user home
>>>>> directory...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You don't have to use -m. If /etc/login.defs contains 'CREATE_HOME
>>>> yes', -m isn't necessary.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1) after creating a new user via useradd I can't logout then login
>>>> as the new user, even if the new user has a $HOME. It just goes
>>>> into an endless login cycle.
>>>>
>>>> 2) useradd updates /etc/passwd to say the user has a home folder,
>>>> even if it's not there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you really that stupid?
>>
>>
>> Can you not read, fool? It's 2 more hobbyware failures.
>>
>>
>
> No, dumbass, it is not failure but WAD...
It is hobbyware failure. Two instances of it.
And speak English, not Linux-babble. What's WAD?
And why are you being such a prick?
> Anyway, idiot, how come you haven't tried Manjaro settings manager?
Why should I have to use a GUI, which calls useradd anyway?
https://github.com/manjaro/manjaro-settings-manager/archive/0.4.14.zip
dialogs/adduserdialog.cpp
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
// Add user
if (Global::runProcess("useradd",
QStringList() << "-m" << "-p" << "" << "-U"
<< "-G" << DEFAULT_USER_GROUPS << username,
QStringList(),
errorMessage) != 0)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
You seem to be taking Manjaro failure personally. Why?
You didn't really think Linux or GuhNoo or Manjaro was bulletproof, did you?
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| From | flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-11-27 19:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ea1dblFu15rU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #382336 |
On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:45:58 -0500, DFS wrote:
> On 11/27/2016 07:17 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:02:33 -0500
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/27/2016 06:48 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:44:07 -0500
>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/27/2016 05:16 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:45:02 -0500
>>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/27/2016 07:25 AM, Takuya Saitoh wrote:
>>>>>>>> Another update, another wasted day, another headache...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After updating to Gnome 3.22 today, the system refused to logon
>>>>>>>> anyone more then once and switching users became impossible too.
>>>>>>>> So instead of logout yo got to do reboot each time and even
>>>>>>>> then, the sucker refused to log yo on at times despite of fresh
>>>>>>>> reboot. After wasting a day searching for clues for the
>>>>>>>> meaningless syslog messages like "Unrecoverable failure in
>>>>>>>> required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop" I finally arrived at
>>>>>>>> the solution:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=219576
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course, the f*ckers changed the default login so Wayland is
>>>>>>>> used without any clues or warning particularly to the NVIDIA
>>>>>>>> users...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NEVER update yo Linux system or get ready for big headache each
>>>>>>>> time yo do... Happy Appil and Windoze users, the money save
>>>>>>>> them lot of time and ruined nerves. Of course, the bored
>>>>>>>> pensionists and hobbists can always play with dozen of distros
>>>>>>>> to find one which will finally install and run on their
>>>>>>>> hardware.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo useradd user2
>>>>>>> [sudo] password for dfs:
>>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo passwd user2
>>>>>>> New password:
>>>>>>> Retype new password:
>>>>>>> passwd: password updated successfully
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ tail -2 /etc/passwd
>>>>>>> dfs:x:1000:1000:DFS,,,,:/home/dfs:/bin/bash
>>>>>>> user2:x:1001:1001::/home/user2:/bin/bash
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using xfce. GUI logout from user dfs, and it won't allow me to
>>>>>>> switch to user2. Just stays in an endless login loop. I can log
>>>>>>> back in as dfs no problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami
>>>>>>> dfs
>>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ su - user2
>>>>>>> Password:
>>>>>>> su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/user2: No such file
>>>>>>> or directory
>>>>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ whoami
>>>>>>> user2
>>>>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ exit
>>>>>>> logout
>>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami
>>>>>>> dfs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Turns out you have to have a 'CREATE_HOME yes' entry
>>>>>>> in /etc/login.defs before Linux useradd will automatically
>>>>>>> create a $HOME folder for new users.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's hobbyware in action: the password file says there's a
>>>>>>> $HOME folder, but there's not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hm, I am using KDE on Manjaro, created user from GUI Manjaro
>>>>>> settings manager no problem... logged in another session as that
>>>>>> user, changed user details in KDE GUI Account details no
>>>>>> problem... useradd also works but if you read documentation you
>>>>>> have to add -m option if you want to create user home
>>>>>> directory...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't have to use -m. If /etc/login.defs contains 'CREATE_HOME
>>>>> yes', -m isn't necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) after creating a new user via useradd I can't logout then login
>>>>> as the new user, even if the new user has a $HOME. It just goes
>>>>> into an endless login cycle.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) useradd updates /etc/passwd to say the user has a home folder,
>>>>> even if it's not there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you really that stupid?
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you not read, fool? It's 2 more hobbyware failures.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No, dumbass, it is not failure but WAD...
>
>
> It is hobbyware failure. Two instances of it.
>
> And speak English, not Linux-babble. What's WAD?
>
> And why are you being such a prick?
>
>
>
>
>> Anyway, idiot, how come you haven't tried Manjaro settings manager?
>
>
> Why should I have to use a GUI, which calls useradd anyway?
>
> https://github.com/manjaro/manjaro-settings-manager/archive/0.4.14.zip
> dialogs/adduserdialog.cpp
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> // Add user
> if (Global::runProcess("useradd",
> QStringList() << "-m" << "-p" << "" << "-U"
> << "-G" << DEFAULT_USER_GROUPS << username,
> QStringList(),
> errorMessage) != 0)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> You seem to be taking Manjaro failure personally. Why?
>
> You didn't really think Linux or GuhNoo or Manjaro was bulletproof, did you?
Facts bother Linux loons.
There was a thread a couple of months ago where somebody posted
screenshots of Manjaro tripping all over itself trying to do a routine
upgrade.
Melzzzzz jumped all over it like his mother was being attacked and
accused the people in the thread of lying, faking screen shots and the
usual accusations the Linux loons toss around.
And of course Plunger Boy Willy Poaster and wannabe programmer
Ahlstrom among others joined in with the beating.
Turns out, Melzzzzz was wrong, found a documented bug and finally
admitted his mistake, to his credit. Of course the other spineless
Linux dweebs ran away.
Just another day in the bizarre world of Linux advocacy!
--
flatfish+++
mariana trench
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| From | Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-11-28 02:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20161128020002.3126a60f@maxa-pc> |
| In reply to | #382338 |
On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:51:00 -0500 flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: > Turns out, Melzzzzz was wrong, found a documented bug and finally > admitted his mistake, to his credit. Of course the other spineless > Linux dweebs ran away. Liar, that isn't documented bug. I admited that I was wrong regarding octopi... nothing else. But spindrift(you) lied anyway... as you lie now. -- press any key to continue or any other to quit
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| From | flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> |
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| Date | 2016-11-27 20:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ea1e23Fu4tvU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #382340 |
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:00:02 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:51:00 -0500 > flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: > >> Turns out, Melzzzzz was wrong, found a documented bug and finally >> admitted his mistake, to his credit. Of course the other spineless >> Linux dweebs ran away. > > Liar, that isn't documented bug. I admited that I was wrong regarding > octopi... nothing else. But spindrift(you) lied anyway... as you lie > now. Another lie.... In fact just a few posts ago you admitted that Xorg.conf had to be edited in order to make Manjaro work. You are not very good at lying are you? And again, I am neither of those nyms. That won't stop you from lying though. Not that it matters as both of them exposed you for what you are, a liar. Sorry but that's the way I see it. Your snipping only makes you look foolish. -- flatfish+++ mariana trench
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| From | Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-28 02:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20161128020550.60451b94@maxa-pc> |
| In reply to | #382343 |
On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 20:02:58 -0500 flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:00:02 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > > > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:51:00 -0500 > > flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: > > > >> Turns out, Melzzzzz was wrong, found a documented bug and finally > >> admitted his mistake, to his credit. Of course the other spineless > >> Linux dweebs ran away. > > > > Liar, that isn't documented bug. I admited that I was wrong > > regarding octopi... nothing else. But spindrift(you) lied anyway... > > as you lie now. > > Another lie.... > > In fact just a few posts ago you admitted that Xorg.conf had to be > edited in order to make Manjaro work. I told that to you before you ever started to install in VM... > You are not very good at lying are you? No. You think you are.... > -- press any key to continue or any other to quit
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| From | flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> |
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| Date | 2016-11-27 20:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ea1fbmFuev2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #382346 |
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:05:50 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 20:02:58 -0500 > flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: > >> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:00:02 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:51:00 -0500 >>> flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Turns out, Melzzzzz was wrong, found a documented bug and finally >>>> admitted his mistake, to his credit. Of course the other spineless >>>> Linux dweebs ran away. >>> >>> Liar, that isn't documented bug. I admited that I was wrong >>> regarding octopi... nothing else. But spindrift(you) lied anyway... >>> as you lie now. >> >> Another lie.... >> >> In fact just a few posts ago you admitted that Xorg.conf had to be >> edited in order to make Manjaro work. > > I told that to you before you ever started to install in VM... ?? I run Linux on bare metal. VM's suck. >> You are not very good at lying are you? > > No. Glad you agree. P.S you need to stop coming across as a Manjaro fanboy. Just some advice. -- flatfish+++ mariana trench
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| From | Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-28 02:34 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20161128023439.3da0adbe@maxa-pc> |
| In reply to | #382349 |
On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 20:25:08 -0500 flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:05:50 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > > > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 20:02:58 -0500 > > flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:00:02 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> > >>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:51:00 -0500 > >>> flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Turns out, Melzzzzz was wrong, found a documented bug and finally > >>>> admitted his mistake, to his credit. Of course the other > >>>> spineless Linux dweebs ran away. > >>> > >>> Liar, that isn't documented bug. I admited that I was wrong > >>> regarding octopi... nothing else. But spindrift(you) lied > >>> anyway... as you lie now. > >> > >> Another lie.... > >> > >> In fact just a few posts ago you admitted that Xorg.conf had to be > >> edited in order to make Manjaro work. > > > > I told that to you before you ever started to install in VM... > > ?? > I run Linux on bare metal. > VM's suck. Ahahahhahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahhahah > > >> You are not very good at lying are you? > > > > No. > > Glad you agree. > > P.S you need to stop coming across as a Manjaro fanboy. > Just some advice. > I am Manjaro fanboy because I am really satisfied with it. You hate Manjaro because you are Windroid unable to install it in VM... > > -- press any key to continue or any other to quit
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| From | flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> |
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| Date | 2016-11-27 20:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ea1h2rF9paU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #382353 |
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:34:39 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 20:25:08 -0500 > flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: > >> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:05:50 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 20:02:58 -0500 >>> flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:00:02 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:51:00 -0500 >>>>> flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Turns out, Melzzzzz was wrong, found a documented bug and finally >>>>>> admitted his mistake, to his credit. Of course the other >>>>>> spineless Linux dweebs ran away. >>>>> >>>>> Liar, that isn't documented bug. I admited that I was wrong >>>>> regarding octopi... nothing else. But spindrift(you) lied >>>>> anyway... as you lie now. >>>> >>>> Another lie.... >>>> >>>> In fact just a few posts ago you admitted that Xorg.conf had to be >>>> edited in order to make Manjaro work. >>> >>> I told that to you before you ever started to install in VM... >> >> ?? >> I run Linux on bare metal. >> VM's suck. > > Ahahahhahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahhahah Glad you agree. I have a 40G partition on /sda that I use to test Linux. I use EasyBCD as a boot manager to point to the Linux partition. Works great. Assuming the Linux distribution is up to the task of course. >> >>>> You are not very good at lying are you? >>> >>> No. >> >> Glad you agree. >> >> P.S you need to stop coming across as a Manjaro fanboy. >> Just some advice. >> > I am Manjaro fanboy because I am really satisfied with it. > You hate Manjaro because you are Windroid unable to install it in VM... I've never tried to install it in a VM. I tried it on bare metal and it sucks. Updates take forever for example. -- flatfish+++ mariana trench
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| From | Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-28 03:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20161128033855.078d5036@maxa-pc> |
| In reply to | #382357 |
On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 20:54:33 -0500 flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:34:39 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > > > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 20:25:08 -0500 > > flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: > >> > >> P.S you need to stop coming across as a Manjaro fanboy. > >> Just some advice. > >> > > I am Manjaro fanboy because I am really satisfied with it. > > You hate Manjaro because you are Windroid unable to install it in > > VM... > > I've never tried to install it in a VM. > I tried it on bare metal and it sucks. > Updates take forever for example. > Bullshit. -- press any key to continue or any other to quit
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| From | flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> |
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| Date | 2016-11-27 22:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ea1m3lF1a7gU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #382359 |
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 03:38:55 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 20:54:33 -0500 > flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: > >> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 02:34:39 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 20:25:08 -0500 >>> flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> P.S you need to stop coming across as a Manjaro fanboy. >>>> Just some advice. >>>> >>> I am Manjaro fanboy because I am really satisfied with it. >>> You hate Manjaro because you are Windroid unable to install it in >>> VM... >> >> I've never tried to install it in a VM. >> I tried it on bare metal and it sucks. >> Updates take forever for example. >> > > Bullshit. The same thing you said when others claimed octopi didn't work.... You later apologized that you were wrong. -- flatfish+++ mariana trench
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-11-28 08:49 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <lmgo3clds0l5t2ukgodo7i64q2plo5gtms@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #382359 |
Melzzzzz wrote: > mentally-ill troll wrote: >> >> I've never tried to install it in a VM. >> I tried it on bare metal and it sucks. >> Updates take forever for example. > > Bullshit. Does that pathological liar imagine that what he claims has *any* meaning at all? -- "We see all kinds of hits for Linux, felching, homosexuality, felching,pedophilia, gay, oddness and other deviant lifestyles. So why does Linux seem to attract this kind of freak person?" - "flatfish"
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