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  Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-04 19:29 -0700
    Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-05 09:28 -0400
      Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-05 07:29 -0700
        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-05 10:33 -0400
          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-05 10:58 -0400
            Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-05 11:33 -0400
          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-05 08:21 -0700
            Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-05 11:38 -0400
              Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Evilheart <up@yourfat.ass> - 2016-04-05 18:29 -0400
              Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-06 03:33 -0700
    re: Another Linux company - - product bricking "1 eyed chicken" <chicken@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 20:54 +0200
      Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-06 15:26 -0400
      Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-06 14:15 -0700
        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-06 17:37 -0400
          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking "Henry" <henry@alpha.org> - 2016-04-08 13:53 +0200
    Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2016-04-08 18:59 +0100
      Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-08 11:14 -0700
      Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-08 14:48 -0400
        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-08 15:23 -0400
        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-08 13:46 -0700
        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-11 07:18 -0500
          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-11 13:33 +0100
            Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-11 09:49 -0400
              Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-11 10:43 -0400
                Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-11 09:59 -0700
                  Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-11 13:06 -0400
                    Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-11 11:20 -0700
                      Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-11 14:22 -0400
                        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-12 04:58 -0700
                          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-12 05:51 -0700
                          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-12 15:43 +0000
                            Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-12 13:48 -0400
                          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-12 12:36 -0400
                Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Silver Slimer <fat.linux.loser@linux.is.sh.it> - 2016-04-11 19:31 -0400
      Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-08 13:14 -0700
        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-08 16:15 -0400
          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-08 13:54 -0700
            Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-08 20:14 -0400
              Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-08 20:22 -0400
        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2016-04-10 01:28 +0100
          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-09 20:33 -0400
            Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-04-12 12:50 -0500
          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-04-12 12:49 -0500

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#349310

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Homer wrote:
>>
>> lying asshole "-hh" wrote:
>>>
>>> An interesting read on one of those Linux IoT's:
>>> 
>>> <https://medium.com/@arlogilbert/the-time-that-tony-fadell-sold-me-a-container-of-hummus-cb0941c762c1#.oleyuakbe>
>>
>> Blaming "Linux" for a company ending its service, is like blaming the
>> steel industry because your car manufacturer no longer provides
>> replacement parts.
>
>"Linux" doesn't appear anywhere in that article.
>
>Chrisv is absolutely right about -hh.

In addition to being a liar and an asshole, -highhorse is rather
stupid.

-- 
"All that you're illustrating is that you want to have your cake and
eat it too."  -  lying asshole "-hh", attacking a Linux advocate for
not being "pure"

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#349314

It was reported that chrisv posted:

> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Homer wrote:
>>>
>>> lying asshole "-hh" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> An interesting read on one of those Linux IoT's:
>>>> 
>>>> <https://medium.com/@arlogilbert/the-time-that-tony-fadell-sold-me-a-container-of-hummus-cb0941c762c1#.oleyuakbe>
>>>
>>> Blaming "Linux" for a company ending its service, is like blaming the
>>> steel industry because your car manufacturer no longer provides
>>> replacement parts.
>>
>>"Linux" doesn't appear anywhere in that article.
>>
>>Chrisv is absolutely right about -hh.
>
> In addition to being a liar and an asshole, -highhorse is rather
> stupid.

In short; a lying, stupid asshole. HTH :-)

-- 
openSUSE 13.2 64-bit
KDE 4.14.9
Kernel: 4.2.2-1.gb3ecf72-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT 
Tue Sep 29 18:51:15 UTC 2015 (b3ecf72) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

This message is virus free, as absolutely 
NO Micro$oft products were used in its preparation. 

"If you do want to clean your computer of malware, the first software to
delete is Windows."
http://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

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#349340

On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 13:33:45 +0100, William Poaster wrote:

> It was reported that chrisv posted:
> 
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Homer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> lying asshole "-hh" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> An interesting read on one of those Linux IoT's:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <https://medium.com/@arlogilbert/the-time-that-tony-fadell-sold-me-a-container-of-hummus-cb0941c762c1#.oleyuakbe>
>>>>
>>>> Blaming "Linux" for a company ending its service, is like blaming the
>>>> steel industry because your car manufacturer no longer provides
>>>> replacement parts.
>>>
>>>"Linux" doesn't appear anywhere in that article.
>>>
>>>Chrisv is absolutely right about -hh.
>>
>> In addition to being a liar and an asshole, -highhorse is rather
>> stupid.
> 
> In short; a lying, stupid asshole. HTH :-)

More talk about people in your kill file.
You seem to have a one track mind Mr. Poaster.

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#349355

On 4/11/2016 9:49 AM, Omar wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 13:33:45 +0100, William Poaster wrote:
>
>> It was reported that chrisv posted:
>>
>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> Homer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> lying asshole "-hh" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An interesting read on one of those Linux IoT's:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://medium.com/@arlogilbert/the-time-that-tony-fadell-sold-me-a-container-of-hummus-cb0941c762c1#.oleyuakbe>
>>>>>
>>>>> Blaming "Linux" for a company ending its service, is like blaming the
>>>>> steel industry because your car manufacturer no longer provides
>>>>> replacement parts.
>>>>
>>>> "Linux" doesn't appear anywhere in that article.
>>>>
>>>> Chrisv is absolutely right about -hh.
>>>
>>> In addition to being a liar and an asshole, -highhorse is rather
>>> stupid.
>>
>> In short; a lying, stupid asshole. HTH :-)
>
> More talk about people in your kill file.
> You seem to have a one track mind Mr. Poaster.


A short, dead-end track:

"+1, me too, I agree, he's in my killfile"

Virtually nothing else from Dumb Willie for 10 goddamn years?

Take yourself out back and do the right thing, Dumb Willie.

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#349374

DFS wrote:
> Omar wrote:
> > William Poaster wrote:
> >> It was reported that chrisv posted:
> >>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >>>> Homer wrote:
> >>>>> lying asshole "-hh" wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> An interesting read on one of those Linux IoT's:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <https://medium.com/@arlogilbert/the-time-that-tony-fadell-sold-me-a-container-of-hummus-cb0941c762c1#.oleyuakbe>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Blaming "Linux" for a company ending its service, is like blaming 
> >>>>> the steel industry because your car manufacturer no longer provides
> >>>>> replacement parts.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Linux" doesn't appear anywhere in that article.
> >>>>
> >>>> Chrisv is absolutely right about -hh.
> >>>
> >>> In addition to being a liar and an asshole, -highhorse is rather
> >>> stupid.
> >>
> >> In short; a lying, stupid asshole. HTH :-)
> >
> > More talk about people in your kill file.
> > You seem to have a one track mind Mr. Poaster.
> 
> A short, dead-end track:
> 
> "+1, me too, I agree, he's in my killfile"
> 
> Virtually nothing else from Dumb Willie for 10 goddamn years?
> Take yourself out back and do the right thing, Dumb Willie.

All they're doing is re-affirming that they've lost once again,
and just how thoroughly they remain pwned.  

Here, the boys are trying to use how the article didn't bother 
to explicitly note that Nest is a Linux company to try to claim
that they're not:  that's the logical flaw known as "Argument 
from Ignorance":

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance#Absence_of_evidence>

Since it has already been determined from other sources that
Nest is a Linux company, each time that they whine like this 
just gives the readership audience a good deep laugh at their 
expense, as they so dearly try to cling to remaining ignorant.


-hh

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#349376

On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 09:59:46 -0700 (PDT), -hh wrote:

> DFS wrote:
>> Omar wrote:
>>> William Poaster wrote:
>>>> It was reported that chrisv posted:
>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>> Homer wrote:
>>>>>>> lying asshole "-hh" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An interesting read on one of those Linux IoT's:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://medium.com/@arlogilbert/the-time-that-tony-fadell-sold-me-a-container-of-hummus-cb0941c762c1#.oleyuakbe>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blaming "Linux" for a company ending its service, is like blaming 
>>>>>>> the steel industry because your car manufacturer no longer provides
>>>>>>> replacement parts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Linux" doesn't appear anywhere in that article.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chrisv is absolutely right about -hh.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to being a liar and an asshole, -highhorse is rather
>>>>> stupid.
>>>>
>>>> In short; a lying, stupid asshole. HTH :-)
>>>
>>> More talk about people in your kill file.
>>> You seem to have a one track mind Mr. Poaster.
>> 
>> A short, dead-end track:
>> 
>> "+1, me too, I agree, he's in my killfile"
>> 
>> Virtually nothing else from Dumb Willie for 10 goddamn years?
>> Take yourself out back and do the right thing, Dumb Willie.
> 
> All they're doing is re-affirming that they've lost once again,
> and just how thoroughly they remain pwned.  
> 
> Here, the boys are trying to use how the article didn't bother 
> to explicitly note that Nest is a Linux company to try to claim
> that they're not:  that's the logical flaw known as "Argument 
> from Ignorance":
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance#Absence_of_evidence>
> 
> Since it has already been determined from other sources that
> Nest is a Linux company, each time that they whine like this 
> just gives the readership audience a good deep laugh at their 
> expense, as they so dearly try to cling to remaining ignorant.
> 
> 
> -hh

Logic and Linux losers used in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
Once again, can you imagine the uproar they would be causing if that
was Microsoft or Apple?
It would be going 24x7 nonstop.
Shit, these losers are still whining about The Halloween Docs which if
memory serves me correctly were leaked in the late 1990's.

These so called Linux advocates are mentally ill.
They really are.

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#349385

Omar wrote:
>  -hh wrote:
> > > [...]
> >
> > All they're doing is re-affirming that they've lost once again,
> > and just how thoroughly they remain pwned.  
> > 
> > Here, the boys are trying to use how the article didn't bother 
> > to explicitly note that Nest is a Linux company to try to claim
> > that they're not:  that's the logical flaw known as "Argument 
> > from Ignorance":
> > 
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance#Absence_of_evidence>
> > 
> > Since it has already been determined from other sources that
> > Nest is a Linux company, each time that they whine like this 
> > just gives the readership audience a good deep laugh at their 
> > expense, as they so dearly try to cling to remaining ignorant.
> 
> Logic and Linux losers used in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
> ...
> 
> These so called Linux advocates are mentally ill.
> They really are.

It is more that they wear their "envy of success" on their sleeve,
and try to blame others for their own personal shortcomings in life.

For example, one of my car pics here it will invariably attract some
lame put-down attempts, but the irony is that their "Debbie Downer" 
routine is but a mirror into their own ugliness.  Case in point:

<http://www.huntzinger.com/gallery/index.php/Cars/Parking_1299>



-hh

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#349387

On 4/11/2016 2:20 PM, -hh wrote:
> Omar wrote:
>>   -hh wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>
>>> All they're doing is re-affirming that they've lost once again,
>>> and just how thoroughly they remain pwned.
>>>
>>> Here, the boys are trying to use how the article didn't bother
>>> to explicitly note that Nest is a Linux company to try to claim
>>> that they're not:  that's the logical flaw known as "Argument
>>> from Ignorance":
>>>
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance#Absence_of_evidence>
>>>
>>> Since it has already been determined from other sources that
>>> Nest is a Linux company, each time that they whine like this
>>> just gives the readership audience a good deep laugh at their
>>> expense, as they so dearly try to cling to remaining ignorant.
>>
>> Logic and Linux losers used in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
>> ...
>>
>> These so called Linux advocates are mentally ill.
>> They really are.
>
> It is more that they wear their "envy of success" on their sleeve,
> and try to blame others for their own personal shortcomings in life.


chrisv Feb 2013

  "it is impossible to become a billionaire while competing
   fairly with others. No one is that fscking great.  Some unfair
   advantage(s) must be obtained."



> For example, one of my car pics here it will invariably attract some
> lame put-down attempts, but the irony is that their "Debbie Downer"
> routine is but a mirror into their own ugliness.  Case in point:
>
> <http://www.huntzinger.com/gallery/index.php/Cars/Parking_1299>


Macan?

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#349504

On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 2:22:41 PM UTC-4, DFS wrote:
> On 4/11/2016 2:20 PM, -hh wrote:
> > Omar wrote:
> >>   -hh wrote:
> >>>> [...]
> >>>
> >>> All they're doing is re-affirming that they've lost once again,
> >>> and just how thoroughly they remain pwned.
> >>>
> >>> Here, the boys are trying to use how the article didn't bother
> >>> to explicitly note that Nest is a Linux company to try to claim
> >>> that they're not:  that's the logical flaw known as "Argument
> >>> from Ignorance":
> >>>
> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance#Absence_of_evidence>
> >>>
> >>> Since it has already been determined from other sources that
> >>> Nest is a Linux company, each time that they whine like this
> >>> just gives the readership audience a good deep laugh at their
> >>> expense, as they so dearly try to cling to remaining ignorant.
> >>
> >> Logic and Linux losers used in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
> >> ...
> >>
> >> These so called Linux advocates are mentally ill.
> >> They really are.
> >
> > It is more that they wear their "envy of success" on their sleeve,
> > and try to blame others for their own personal shortcomings in life.
> 
> 
> chrisv Feb 2013
> 
>   "it is impossible to become a billionaire while competing
>    fairly with others. No one is that fscking great.  Some unfair
>    advantage(s) must be obtained."

Obviously, chrisv considers intelligence and being a hard worker to 
both be "unfair advantages".
 
> > For example, one of my car pics here it will invariably attract some
> > lame put-down attempts, but the irony is that their "Debbie Downer"
> > routine is but a mirror into their own ugliness.  Case in point:
> >
> > <http://www.huntzinger.com/gallery/index.php/Cars/Parking_1299>
> 
> 
> Macan?

If I say yes, I'll then be expected to also disclose if its the S, GTS, or Turbo...
...so let's just instead say that its a misbadged Ford Focus  ;-)


-hh

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#349509

On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 6:58:08 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> Obviously, chrisv considers intelligence and being a hard worker to 
> both be "unfair advantages".

What little money he does get is promptly consumed by his wife.

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#349523

-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 2:22:41 PM UTC-4, DFS wrote:
>> On 4/11/2016 2:20 PM, -hh wrote:
>> > Omar wrote:
>> >>   -hh wrote:
>> >>>> [...]
>> >>>
>> >>> All they're doing is re-affirming that they've lost once again,
>> >>> and just how thoroughly they remain pwned.
>> >>>
>> >>> Here, the boys are trying to use how the article didn't bother
>> >>> to explicitly note that Nest is a Linux company to try to claim
>> >>> that they're not:  that's the logical flaw known as "Argument
>> >>> from Ignorance":
>> >>>
>> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance#Absence_of_evidence>
>> >>>
>> >>> Since it has already been determined from other sources that
>> >>> Nest is a Linux company, each time that they whine like this
>> >>> just gives the readership audience a good deep laugh at their
>> >>> expense, as they so dearly try to cling to remaining ignorant.
>> >>
>> >> Logic and Linux losers used in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >> These so called Linux advocates are mentally ill.
>> >> They really are.
>> >
>> > It is more that they wear their "envy of success" on their sleeve,
>> > and try to blame others for their own personal shortcomings in life.
>> 
>> 
>> chrisv Feb 2013
>> 
>>   "it is impossible to become a billionaire while competing
>>    fairly with others. No one is that fscking great.  Some unfair
>>    advantage(s) must be obtained."
> 
> Obviously, chrisv considers intelligence and being a hard worker to 
> both be "unfair advantages".
>  
>> > For example, one of my car pics here it will invariably attract some
>> > lame put-down attempts, but the irony is that their "Debbie Downer"
>> > routine is but a mirror into their own ugliness.  Case in point:
>> >
>> > <http://www.huntzinger.com/gallery/index.php/Cars/Parking_1299>
>> 
>> 
>> Macan?
> 
> If I say yes, I'll then be expected to also disclose if its the S, GTS, or Turbo...
> ...so let's just instead say that its a misbadged Ford Focus  ;-)
> 

Here's what you need.
If you're going ugly, you might as well go all the way...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mFmk5uwiA0
 

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#349554

On 4/12/2016 11:43 AM, owl wrote:

> Here's what you need.
> If you're going ugly, you might as well go all the way...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mFmk5uwiA0

Only in AmeriKKKA...

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#349531

On 4/12/2016 7:58 AM, -hh wrote:
> On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 2:22:41 PM UTC-4, DFS wrote:
>> On 4/11/2016 2:20 PM, -hh wrote:
>>> Omar wrote:
>>>>    -hh wrote:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> All they're doing is re-affirming that they've lost once again,
>>>>> and just how thoroughly they remain pwned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here, the boys are trying to use how the article didn't bother
>>>>> to explicitly note that Nest is a Linux company to try to claim
>>>>> that they're not:  that's the logical flaw known as "Argument
>>>>> from Ignorance":
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance#Absence_of_evidence>
>>>>>
>>>>> Since it has already been determined from other sources that
>>>>> Nest is a Linux company, each time that they whine like this
>>>>> just gives the readership audience a good deep laugh at their
>>>>> expense, as they so dearly try to cling to remaining ignorant.
>>>>
>>>> Logic and Linux losers used in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> These so called Linux advocates are mentally ill.
>>>> They really are.
>>>
>>> It is more that they wear their "envy of success" on their sleeve,
>>> and try to blame others for their own personal shortcomings in life.
>>
>>
>> chrisv Feb 2013
>>
>>    "it is impossible to become a billionaire while competing
>>     fairly with others. No one is that fscking great.  Some unfair
>>     advantage(s) must be obtained."
>
> Obviously, chrisv considers intelligence and being a hard worker to
> both be "unfair advantages".
>
>>> For example, one of my car pics here it will invariably attract some
>>> lame put-down attempts, but the irony is that their "Debbie Downer"
>>> routine is but a mirror into their own ugliness.  Case in point:
>>>
>>> <http://www.huntzinger.com/gallery/index.php/Cars/Parking_1299>
>>
>>
>> Macan?
>
> If I say yes, I'll then be expected to also disclose if its the S, GTS, or Turbo...
> ...so let's just instead say that its a misbadged Ford Focus  ;-)


Best looking Focus I've ever seen!

(we have a guy in my neighborhood who works for Porsche NA.  He always 
has 1 or 2 late models on display in his driveway)

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#349427

On 2016-04-11 10:43 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 4/11/2016 9:49 AM, Omar wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 13:33:45 +0100, William Poaster wrote:
>>
>>> It was reported that chrisv posted:
>>>
>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Homer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lying asshole "-hh" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An interesting read on one of those Linux IoT's:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://medium.com/@arlogilbert/the-time-that-tony-fadell-sold-me-a-container-of-hummus-cb0941c762c1#.oleyuakbe>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blaming "Linux" for a company ending its service, is like blaming the
>>>>>> steel industry because your car manufacturer no longer provides
>>>>>> replacement parts.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Linux" doesn't appear anywhere in that article.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chrisv is absolutely right about -hh.
>>>>
>>>> In addition to being a liar and an asshole, -highhorse is rather
>>>> stupid.
>>>
>>> In short; a lying, stupid asshole. HTH :-)
>>
>> More talk about people in your kill file.
>> You seem to have a one track mind Mr. Poaster.
>
>
> A short, dead-end track:
>
> "+1, me too, I agree, he's in my killfile"
>
> Virtually nothing else from Dumb Willie for 10 goddamn years?
>
> Take yourself out back and do the right thing, Dumb Willie.

ROFL.

-- 
Silver Slimer

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#349051

On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 1:59:10 PM UTC-4, Homer wrote:
> On Tuesday 05/04/2016 3:29 AM, -hh wrote:
> > An interesting read on one of those Linux IoT's:
> > 
> > 
> > <https://medium.com/@arlogilbert/the-time-that-tony-fadell-sold-me-a-container-of-hummus-cb0941c762c1#.oleyuakbe>
> 
> Blaming "Linux" for a company ending its service, is like
> blaming the steel industry because your car manufacturer no
> longer provides replacement parts.

Reading comprehension fail, "Homer".  

Particularly since I then went on to specifically emphasize, stating:

"Now the classical COLA fanboy defender of FOSS will point out 
that the "EOL'ed" customer is 'free' to go grab the source code 
and update it to avoid being stranded ... good in theory, but 
here's a real world test - - watch, wait and see if that actually 
happens."


> The moral of this story is, if you want to guarantee unrestricted
> utilisation of your own property, do not hand power of attorney for that
> property over to some profit-oriented service provider, who can and will
> terminate service when it no longer suits his financial objective. Use
> self-hosted solutions instead.


A fair enough statement in theory ... but here is a real world test
of the supposed superiority of FOSS to be able to exert said control
over your own fate, rather than to be held hostage.  

As of this morning, no COLA fanboy advocate has stepped up yet to
claim the cash reward I offered ... and the clock is ticking.  


-hh

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#349052

On 4/8/2016 4:14 PM, -hh wrote:


> As of this morning, no COLA fanboy advocate has stepped up yet to
> claim the cash reward I offered ... and the clock is ticking.


I missed this 'cash reward offer'.  What is it?

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#349056

On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 4:15:53 PM UTC-4, DFS wrote:
> On 4/8/2016 4:14 PM, -hh wrote:
> 
> 
> > As of this morning, no COLA fanboy advocate has stepped up yet to
> > claim the cash reward I offered ... and the clock is ticking.
> 
> 
> I missed this 'cash reward offer'.  What is it?

It was posted on 6 April (two days ago) in this same thread.

Repeating:

"FWIW, I'll offer a $100 commission for any COLA boy who wants to 
volunteer to write & deliver a equal to current fully functional 
FOSS re-installer for these fucked-over Revolv customers.  Deadline 
is 15 May 2016 to claim, and payout is subject to customer confirmation 
testing to be conducted after the Revolv system has been shut down. 
I'd consider offering more, but (a) I don't have a Revolv, and (b) 
there's been too many arrogant claims about how trivially easy all 
of this FOSS coding is, so this shouldn't take any of the braggarts 
here more than a half day to fully complete."

In other words, "Earn $100 if you show me that I'm wrong".  


-hh

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#349083

On 4/8/2016 4:54 PM, -hh wrote:
> On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 4:15:53 PM UTC-4, DFS wrote:
>> On 4/8/2016 4:14 PM, -hh wrote:
>>
>>
>>> As of this morning, no COLA fanboy advocate has stepped up yet to
>>> claim the cash reward I offered ... and the clock is ticking.
>>
>>
>> I missed this 'cash reward offer'.  What is it?
>
> It was posted on 6 April (two days ago) in this same thread.
>
> Repeating:
>
> "FWIW, I'll offer a $100 commission for any COLA boy who wants to
> volunteer to write & deliver a equal to current fully functional
> FOSS re-installer for these fucked-over Revolv customers.  Deadline
> is 15 May 2016 to claim, and payout is subject to customer confirmation
> testing to be conducted after the Revolv system has been shut down.
> I'd consider offering more, but (a) I don't have a Revolv, and (b)
> there's been too many arrogant claims about how trivially easy all
> of this FOSS coding is, so this shouldn't take any of the braggarts
> here more than a half day to fully complete."
>
> In other words, "Earn $100 if you show me that I'm wrong".

Gotcha.  Don't hold your breath.


The company looks to be doing the right thing:

"If you're a current Revolv customer, please email us at help@revolv.com 
so we can help you out during this transition and provide you with a 
refund for the purchase price of your Revolv hub."

http://support.revolv.com

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#349087

On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 20:14:23 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 4/8/2016 4:54 PM, -hh wrote:
>> On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 4:15:53 PM UTC-4, DFS wrote:
>>> On 4/8/2016 4:14 PM, -hh wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> As of this morning, no COLA fanboy advocate has stepped up yet to
>>>> claim the cash reward I offered ... and the clock is ticking.
>>>
>>>
>>> I missed this 'cash reward offer'.  What is it?
>>
>> It was posted on 6 April (two days ago) in this same thread.
>>
>> Repeating:
>>
>> "FWIW, I'll offer a $100 commission for any COLA boy who wants to
>> volunteer to write & deliver a equal to current fully functional
>> FOSS re-installer for these fucked-over Revolv customers.  Deadline
>> is 15 May 2016 to claim, and payout is subject to customer confirmation
>> testing to be conducted after the Revolv system has been shut down.
>> I'd consider offering more, but (a) I don't have a Revolv, and (b)
>> there's been too many arrogant claims about how trivially easy all
>> of this FOSS coding is, so this shouldn't take any of the braggarts
>> here more than a half day to fully complete."
>>
>> In other words, "Earn $100 if you show me that I'm wrong".
> 
> Gotcha.  Don't hold your breath.
> 
> 
> The company looks to be doing the right thing:
> 
> "If you're a current Revolv customer, please email us at help@revolv.com 
> so we can help you out during this transition and provide you with a 
> refund for the purchase price of your Revolv hub."
> 
> http://support.revolv.com

Just saw that.
They had a huge backlash so they succumbed to the pressure of the
consumer.
Still, kudos to them for doing the right thing.

Is this Nest thing that popular?
I've never heard of it.

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#349190

On Friday 08/04/2016 9:14 PM, -hh wrote:
> 
> "Now the classical COLA fanboy defender of FOSS will point out 
> that the "EOL'ed" customer is 'free' to go grab the source code 
> and update it to avoid being stranded ... good in theory, but 
> here's a real world test - - watch, wait and see if that actually 
> happens."

The flaw in your expectation is that you assume a) the sources are in
fact available (where are they?), b) the firmware has not been
"Tivoized" (locked to digitally signed binaries), and c) the now
"bricked" functionality of the device was actually provided by locally
installed software, rather than remotely in a now deactivated Cloud service.

The fact is that if this device really is powered by Free Software,
rather than some proprietary bastardisation of Free Software or a remote
service, then there is in fact nothing preventing you from continuing to
use it as before.

So please show me the exact copy of the Free Software powering this
device, and its exact corresponding sources, then explain to me exactly
how this Free Software is somehow responsible for "bricking" it.

-- 
K.
http://slated.org

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