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Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking

From	Homer <usenet@slated.org>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking
Date	2016-04-10 01:28 +0100
Organization	Slated.org
Message-ID	<dmtl0rFcmd5U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On Friday 08/04/2016 9:14 PM, -hh wrote:
> 
> "Now the classical COLA fanboy defender of FOSS will point out 
> that the "EOL'ed" customer is 'free' to go grab the source code 
> and update it to avoid being stranded ... good in theory, but 
> here's a real world test - - watch, wait and see if that actually 
> happens."

The flaw in your expectation is that you assume a) the sources are in
fact available (where are they?), b) the firmware has not been
"Tivoized" (locked to digitally signed binaries), and c) the now
"bricked" functionality of the device was actually provided by locally
installed software, rather than remotely in a now deactivated Cloud service.

The fact is that if this device really is powered by Free Software,
rather than some proprietary bastardisation of Free Software or a remote
service, then there is in fact nothing preventing you from continuing to
use it as before.

So please show me the exact copy of the Free Software powering this
device, and its exact corresponding sources, then explain to me exactly
how this Free Software is somehow responsible for "bricking" it.

-- 
K.
http://slated.org

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Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-04 19:29 -0700
  Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-05 09:28 -0400
    Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-05 07:29 -0700
      Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-05 10:33 -0400
        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-05 10:58 -0400
          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-05 11:33 -0400
        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-05 08:21 -0700
          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-05 11:38 -0400
            Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Evilheart <up@yourfat.ass> - 2016-04-05 18:29 -0400
            Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-06 03:33 -0700
  re: Another Linux company - - product bricking "1 eyed chicken" <chicken@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 20:54 +0200
    Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-06 15:26 -0400
    Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-06 14:15 -0700
      Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-06 17:37 -0400
        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking "Henry" <henry@alpha.org> - 2016-04-08 13:53 +0200
  Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2016-04-08 18:59 +0100
    Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-08 11:14 -0700
    Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-08 14:48 -0400
      Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-08 15:23 -0400
      Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-08 13:46 -0700
      Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-11 07:18 -0500
        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-11 13:33 +0100
          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-11 09:49 -0400
            Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-11 10:43 -0400
              Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-11 09:59 -0700
                Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-11 13:06 -0400
                Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-11 11:20 -0700
                Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-11 14:22 -0400
                Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-12 04:58 -0700
                Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-12 05:51 -0700
                Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-12 15:43 +0000
                Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-12 13:48 -0400
                Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-12 12:36 -0400
              Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Silver Slimer <fat.linux.loser@linux.is.sh.it> - 2016-04-11 19:31 -0400
    Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-08 13:14 -0700
      Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-08 16:15 -0400
        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-08 13:54 -0700
          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-08 20:14 -0400
            Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-08 20:22 -0400
      Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2016-04-10 01:28 +0100
        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-09 20:33 -0400
          Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-04-12 12:50 -0500
        Re: Another Linux company - - product bricking JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-04-12 12:49 -0500

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