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64-bit Linux ... What a Joke!

Started byJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
First post2015-10-28 04:17 -0700
Last post2015-10-29 10:31 -0700
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  64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 04:17 -0700
    Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-10-28 19:30 +0000
      Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-28 20:49 +0100
        Köhlmann, try removing that bug that crawled up your arse some 20-years ago. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 14:11 -0700
          Re: Köhlmann, try removing that bug that crawled up your arse some 20-years ago. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-28 17:25 -0400
        Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-10-28 22:02 +0000
          Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-29 07:05 -0500
            Re: Another Idiot Troll ... What a Joke! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 15:28 +0000
              Re: Another Idiot Troll ... What a Joke! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-29 08:51 -0700
            Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-29 19:00 -0500
              Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-29 20:24 -0400
                Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-30 01:26 +0100
                  Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-29 20:31 -0400
                    Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-30 01:39 +0100
                      Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-29 21:18 -0400
                    Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-29 20:46 -0400
                      The mind/body weakens with age. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-10-30 01:20 -0700
                  Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-29 20:41 -0400
                    Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-29 21:22 -0400
                      Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-29 21:42 -0400
                      Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-30 15:52 -0600
                    Old&Ugly. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-10-30 00:52 -0700
                      Re: Old&Ugly. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 06:11 -0700
                      Re: Old&Ugly. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-30 09:32 -0400
                  Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-29 20:13 -0500
                    Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-29 21:26 -0400
      Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 14:08 -0700
      Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-28 20:13 -0500
        Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 19:11 -0700
          Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-29 10:05 +0100
        Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-29 06:14 -0400
    Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 20:56 -0700
      Re: 64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 22:36 -0700
        Takuya Saitoh, as previously exposed by Moi, is a Linux Fraud.  Where is your Linux Distro, Putz? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 06:25 -0700
          Re: Takuya Saitoh, as previously exposed by Moi, is a Linux Fraud.  Where is your Linux Distro, Putz? Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 08:37 -0700
      Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 06:23 -0700
        Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-29 10:46 -0400
        Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 13:06 -0700
          Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 14:02 -0700
            Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-10-30 21:49 +0000
              Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 15:21 -0700
                Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-10-31 08:12 +0000
                  Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 03:38 -0700
            Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 15:08 -0700
              Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 15:12 -0700
            Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 15:22 -0700
              Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-30 19:27 -0400
                Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 17:59 -0700
              Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 17:31 -0700
              Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 10:31 -0600
                Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 12:06 -0800
                  Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-02 17:38 -0500
                    Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 16:09 -0800
                Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 22:51 -0800
                  Why do Fucking Morons like you always manage to congregate in Linux circles? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 05:26 -0800
      Re: Another Idiot Troll ... What a Joke! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 15:26 +0000
    64-bit Linux ... What a Joke! John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 10:31 -0700

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#329870 — Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-30 15:21 -0700
SubjectRe: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.
Message-ID<da44b8d7-1738-4ffd-8e5f-4a2e2fbce267@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#329863
On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 5:49:08 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
> John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 4:08:09 PM UTC-4, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 06:23:40 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 12:08:11 AM UTC-4, Kelsey Bjarnason
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 04:17:10 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > Moi found out that most of the Linux Applets do NOT work in 64-bit
> >> >> > Cinnamon Mint, on day one.
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> No idea what you're calling an "applet" in this context, but
> >> >> Applications work just fine in 64-bit mode.
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Are you shitting me?
> >> 
> >> Yes, except you have the pronouns reversed.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > Applets are a feature that clearly makes the Linux Desktop extremely
> >> > distinctive. 
> >> 
> >> Every application I use makes my desktop distinctive.  Sometimes I even 
> >> run desktop widgets for the purpose.  The fact you choose to use a term 
> >> such as "applet" which could mean any of a dozen different things doesn't 
> >> show you are communicating meaningfully, it means you're being needlessly 
> >> opaque.  Not surprising.
> > 
> > 
> > What a joke!  Thank you for vindicating my position. :)
> > 
> > First, your long delay before responding clearly marks you as a basket case.
> > 
> > Thanks for confirming your inability to recognize what an Applet is in Linux.  That fact is truly astounding.  Applets, of course, are the most distinguishing feature of the Linux Desktop.
> > 
> > http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/
> > How about this, "Applets (which are little apps you can place in the panels)."
> > 
> > Then ...
> > http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets
> > 
> > Notice, the clear separation of 32-bit ONLY Applets from 64-bit Applets - NOT.
> > 
> > In Linux Mint Cinnamon Edition, at least, their Applets are all jumbled together and NOT properly segregated in the least.
> > 
> > Now, you may return to your coma.
> > 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EQ6eHeBrhM


Easy ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR03cfIsEts

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#329906 — Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-10-31 08:12 +0000
SubjectRe: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.
Message-ID<asdfnv83.a8a@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#329870
John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 5:49:08 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
>> John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 4:08:09 PM UTC-4, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 06:23:40 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 12:08:11 AM UTC-4, Kelsey Bjarnason
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 04:17:10 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > Moi found out that most of the Linux Applets do NOT work in 64-bit
>> >> >> > Cinnamon Mint, on day one.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> No idea what you're calling an "applet" in this context, but
>> >> >> Applications work just fine in 64-bit mode.
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > Are you shitting me?
>> >> 
>> >> Yes, except you have the pronouns reversed.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> > Applets are a feature that clearly makes the Linux Desktop extremely
>> >> > distinctive. 
>> >> 
>> >> Every application I use makes my desktop distinctive.  Sometimes I even 
>> >> run desktop widgets for the purpose.  The fact you choose to use a term 
>> >> such as "applet" which could mean any of a dozen different things doesn't 
>> >> show you are communicating meaningfully, it means you're being needlessly 
>> >> opaque.  Not surprising.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > What a joke!  Thank you for vindicating my position. :)
>> > 
>> > First, your long delay before responding clearly marks you as a basket case.
>> > 
>> > Thanks for confirming your inability to recognize what an Applet is in Linux.  That fact is truly astounding.  Applets, of course, are the most distinguishing feature of the Linux Desktop.
>> > 
>> > http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/
>> > How about this, "Applets (which are little apps you can place in the panels)."
>> > 
>> > Then ...
>> > http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets
>> > 
>> > Notice, the clear separation of 32-bit ONLY Applets from 64-bit Applets - NOT.
>> > 
>> > In Linux Mint Cinnamon Edition, at least, their Applets are all jumbled together and NOT properly segregated in the least.
>> > 
>> > Now, you may return to your coma.
>> > 
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EQ6eHeBrhM
> 
> 
> Easy ...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR03cfIsEts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpnIrE7_1YA

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#329908 — Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-31 03:38 -0700
SubjectRe: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.
Message-ID<d17268c1-46ac-4123-85a0-c3f99aceb942@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#329906
On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 4:12:38 AM UTC-4, owl wrote:
> John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 5:49:08 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
> >> John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 4:08:09 PM UTC-4, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 06:23:40 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 12:08:11 AM UTC-4, Kelsey Bjarnason
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 04:17:10 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > Moi found out that most of the Linux Applets do NOT work in 64-bit
> >> >> >> > Cinnamon Mint, on day one.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> No idea what you're calling an "applet" in this context, but
> >> >> >> Applications work just fine in 64-bit mode.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Are you shitting me?
> >> >> 
> >> >> Yes, except you have the pronouns reversed.
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> > Applets are a feature that clearly makes the Linux Desktop extremely
> >> >> > distinctive. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Every application I use makes my desktop distinctive.  Sometimes I even 
> >> >> run desktop widgets for the purpose.  The fact you choose to use a term 
> >> >> such as "applet" which could mean any of a dozen different things doesn't 
> >> >> show you are communicating meaningfully, it means you're being needlessly 
> >> >> opaque.  Not surprising.
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > What a joke!  Thank you for vindicating my position. :)
> >> > 
> >> > First, your long delay before responding clearly marks you as a basket case.
> >> > 
> >> > Thanks for confirming your inability to recognize what an Applet is in Linux.  That fact is truly astounding.  Applets, of course, are the most distinguishing feature of the Linux Desktop.
> >> > 
> >> > http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/
> >> > How about this, "Applets (which are little apps you can place in the panels)."
> >> > 
> >> > Then ...
> >> > http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets
> >> > 
> >> > Notice, the clear separation of 32-bit ONLY Applets from 64-bit Applets - NOT.
> >> > 
> >> > In Linux Mint Cinnamon Edition, at least, their Applets are all jumbled together and NOT properly segregated in the least.
> >> > 
> >> > Now, you may return to your coma.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EQ6eHeBrhM
> > 
> > 
> > Easy ...
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR03cfIsEts
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpnIrE7_1YA


I bet Gwen Stefani makes more money than she does. :)

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#329868 — Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.

FromKelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-30 15:08 -0700
SubjectRe: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.
Message-ID<1b6dgc-6s2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>
In reply to#329840
[snips]

On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:02:02 -0700, John Gohde wrote:

>> Every application I use makes my desktop distinctive.  Sometimes I even
>> run desktop widgets for the purpose.  The fact you choose to use a term
>> such as "applet" which could mean any of a dozen different things
>> doesn't show you are communicating meaningfully, it means you're being
>> needlessly opaque.  Not surprising.
> 
> 
> What a joke!  Thank you for vindicating my position. :)
> 
> First, your long delay before responding clearly marks you as a basket
> case.

Actually, it indicates I have a life beyond usenet.  You might want to 
consider trying to have one yourself.

> Thanks for confirming your inability to recognize what an Applet is in
> Linux.

Incorrect.  I said "applet *in this context*".


Again, learn to fucking read, you insensate moron.

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#329869 — Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-30 15:12 -0700
SubjectRe: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.
Message-ID<0ec19653-bf94-43da-957d-8b6145607055@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#329868
On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 6:08:08 PM UTC-4, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> [snips]
> 
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:02:02 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
> 
> >> Every application I use makes my desktop distinctive.  Sometimes I even
> >> run desktop widgets for the purpose.  The fact you choose to use a term
> >> such as "applet" which could mean any of a dozen different things
> >> doesn't show you are communicating meaningfully, it means you're being
> >> needlessly opaque.  Not surprising.
> > 
> > 
> > What a joke!  Thank you for vindicating my position. :)
> > 
> > First, your long delay before responding clearly marks you as a basket
> > case.
> 
> Actually, it indicates I have a life beyond usenet.  You might want to 
> consider trying to have one yourself.
> 
> > Thanks for confirming your inability to recognize what an Applet is in
> > Linux.
> 
> Incorrect.  I said "applet *in this context*".
> 
> 
> Again, learn to fucking read, you insensate moron.


Have it YOUR way, tard!

.Thank you for vindicating my position. :)

.Thanks for confirming your inability to recognize what an applet is in Linux.  That fact is truly astounding.  Applets, of course, are the most distinguishing feature of the Linux Desktop.

http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/
.How about this, "Applets (which are little apps you can place in the panels)."

.Then ...
http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets

.Notice, the clear separation of 32-bit ONLY applets from 64-bit applets - NOT.

.In Linux Mint Cinnamon Edition, at least, their applets are all jumbled together and NOT properly segregated in the least.

.Now, you may return to your coma. 

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#329873 — Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.

FromKelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-30 15:22 -0700
SubjectRe: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.
Message-ID<d57dgc-6s2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>
In reply to#329840
[snips]

On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:02:02 -0700, John Gohde wrote:

> Then ...
> http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets
> 
> Notice, the clear separation of 32-bit ONLY Applets from 64-bit Applets
> - NOT.

This "applet" thingy looks like a mint+cinnamon specific thing.  I do use 
mint, don't use cinnamon, don't encounter this "issue" and frankly don't 
really care.

It's pretty simple: if you don't like the way Mint+Cinnamon does things, 
then you have two choices: 1) fix it, 2) don't use it.

You prefer option 3, "whine like a toddler who dropped his lollipop."

Pathetic.  Fix it or forget it, but man, you are in *sore* need of a life.

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#329874 — Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.

FromBig Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com>
Date2015-10-30 19:27 -0400
SubjectRe: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.
Message-ID<wv4mlzyehkju.1se68fbxedm6r$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#329873
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:22:05 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:

> [snips]
> 
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:02:02 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
> 
>> Then ...
>> http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets
>> 
>> Notice, the clear separation of 32-bit ONLY Applets from 64-bit Applets
>> - NOT.
> 
> This "applet" thingy looks like a mint+cinnamon specific thing.  I do use 
> mint, don't use cinnamon, don't encounter this "issue" and frankly don't 
> really care.
> 
> It's pretty simple: if you don't like the way Mint+Cinnamon does things, 
> then you have two choices: 1) fix it, 2) don't use it.
> 
> You prefer option 3, "whine like a toddler who dropped his lollipop."
> 
> Pathetic.  Fix it or forget it, but man, you are in *sore* need of a life.

I have no problems with LinuxMint 64 bit.
It's actually one of the better versions of Linux.

-- 
You Ain't The Biggest Fish In The Crotch.

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#329888 — Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.

FromKelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-30 17:59 -0700
SubjectRe: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.
Message-ID<7dgdgc-6s2.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>
In reply to#329874
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 19:27:25 -0400, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:22:05 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> 
>> [snips]
>> 
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:02:02 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
>> 
>>> Then ...
>>> http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets
>>> 
>>> Notice, the clear separation of 32-bit ONLY Applets from 64-bit
>>> Applets - NOT.
>> 
>> This "applet" thingy looks like a mint+cinnamon specific thing.  I do
>> use mint, don't use cinnamon, don't encounter this "issue" and frankly
>> don't really care.
>> 
>> It's pretty simple: if you don't like the way Mint+Cinnamon does
>> things, then you have two choices: 1) fix it, 2) don't use it.
>> 
>> You prefer option 3, "whine like a toddler who dropped his lollipop."
>> 
>> Pathetic.  Fix it or forget it, but man, you are in *sore* need of a
>> life.
> 
> I have no problems with LinuxMint 64 bit.
> It's actually one of the better versions of Linux.

Like anything in life - Windows, LGX or otherwise - it ain't perfect, but 
it's reasonably good.

I was going to say "it does most of what I need an OS to do", but a 
moments' reflection suggests this is the wrong way to look at it.  
Mostly, an OS's job is to be invisible, a black box between interface, 
application and information.  Meaning, as a trivial example, the user 
shouldn't even be aware of whether he's running LGX, Windows, OSX or 
something else, if his goal is to simply open and edit a document or 
check his email.

What LGX does for me that the others don't is it leaves me more or less 
the fuck alone.

Case in point.  Many moons ago, I was doing some web development.  I had 
an XP box to work on.  No worries, runs MS's server offering.  Except 
that it doesn't; it runs a crippled, stripped-down version of the server, 
which supports few sites and fewer connections (or the other way around).

Why?  The hardware is capable of handling 100 sites and 1,000 
connections, so why can't you use what you need?  Oh, right, because the 
OS is *designed* to be crippled, to get in the way, to stop you doing 
your job.

Well, fine, move to a server edition.  Now the web server works, but the 
AV tools stopped working, insisting that if you're running a server, you 
must be made out of money, so buy the corporate edition.

This sort of "fuck the user, give us money" mentality is great if you're 
the one getting paid, not so great if you're the one trying to get things 
done.

LGX, by contrast, rarely if ever applies such arbitrary limits.  You want 
to run a web server?  Go ahead.  Want it to host 1,000 sites?  No prob.  
Need 10,000 connections?  If your hardware will keep up, go for it.

In short the OS, to all intents and purposes, simply ceases to exist as 
an entity of concern; it is over there, in the background, out of the 
way, simply letting you get on with your task.

Are there cases where Windows is a better alternative?  Not really, but 
there are cases where it is the only viable option.

Case in point: DVD ripping.  Want to back up your DVDs to streamable 
files, then tuck the disks away for safe keeping?  LGX's offerings in 
this are improving steadily, but aren't quite on a part with the 
commercial offerings... which are more or less Windows-centric.

Again, though, it's that whole mentality of "fuck the user, give us 
money".  First from the media houses, trying to make things copy proof,so 
even legitimate users can't make backup copies; second from the OS vendor 
who thinks fucking the users over this way is a *Good Thing* (tm).  You 
know, the guys who built all that DRM shit into their OS from the drivers 
on up.

I don't mind Windows being good or bad, or better than LGX or worse, or 
even cheaper or more expensive.  I *do* mind being expected to pay for 
it, only to have some corporate jackass inform me that no, sorry, my own 
legitimately-purchased media is not something I am allowed to make copies 
of for my own purposes, or that my hardware should have completely 
pointless, arbitrary limits imposed upon it, all to feed someone else's 
pocketbook.

It's not Windows *per se* which is the problem; it is the culture of 
unlimited greed which it represents that is the problem.  Windows is just 
a particularly in-your-face example of Greed Gone Wild.

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#329882 — Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-30 17:31 -0700
SubjectRe: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.
Message-ID<13109d07-8485-4e40-bdc5-3b8efca8b75f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#329873
On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 7:08:10 PM UTC-4, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> [snips]
> 
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:02:02 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
> 
> > Then ...
> > http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets
> > 
> > Notice, the clear separation of 32-bit ONLY Applets from 64-bit Applets
> > - NOT.
> 
> This "applet" thingy looks like a mint+cinnamon specific thing.  I do use 
> mint, don't use cinnamon, don't encounter this "issue" and frankly don't 
> really care.
> 
> It's pretty simple: if you don't like the way Mint+Cinnamon does things, 
> then you have two choices: 1) fix it, 2) don't use it.
> 
> You prefer option 3, "whine like a toddler who dropped his lollipop."
> 
> Pathetic.  Fix it or forget it, but man, you are in *sore* need of a life.


Sadly, YOU cannot read worth a fuck!

Je suis Moi, posted from Mint.
Created his 1st pet Linux distribution, so that it looked and behaved *exactly* the way that he wanted it to, in October 2014, but was wise enough to move on. Sadly, you cannot believe what ANY Linux person is claiming at face value most of the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bVDQ4rVrM4

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#330370 — Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2015-11-02 10:31 -0600
SubjectRe: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.
Message-ID<slrnn3f3vs.848.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#329873
On 2015-10-30, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
> [snips]
>
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:02:02 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
>
>> Then ...
>> http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets
>> 
>> Notice, the clear separation of 32-bit ONLY Applets from 64-bit Applets
>> - NOT.
>
> This "applet" thingy looks like a mint+cinnamon specific thing.  I do use 

    Sounds like panel applets. I can't comment on MATE but I would expect
anything but the most obscure project to be built for both architectures.
So it sounds like a non-problem really.

    Another twerp trying to take a web link and turn it into something
it really isn't and blow it all out of proportion.

> mint, don't use cinnamon, don't encounter this "issue" and frankly don't 
> really care.

    I wonder what the big tragedy is supposed to be.

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#330436 — Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-02 12:06 -0800
SubjectRe: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.
Message-ID<9bd76683-0b76-4e92-9a2c-93f35a872c20@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#330370
On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 12:00:11 PM UTC-5, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2015-10-30, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
> > [snips]
> >
> > On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:02:02 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
> >
> >> Then ...
> >> http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets
> >> 
> >> Notice, the clear separation of 32-bit ONLY Applets from 64-bit Applets
> >> - NOT.
> >
> > This "applet" thingy looks like a mint+cinnamon specific thing.  I do use 
> 
>     Sounds like panel applets. I can't comment on MATE but I would expect
> anything but the most obscure project to be built for both architectures.
> So it sounds like a non-problem really.
> 
>     Another twerp trying to take a web link and turn it into something
> it really isn't and blow it all out of proportion.
> 
> > mint, don't use cinnamon, don't encounter this "issue" and frankly don't 
> > really care.
> 
>     I wonder what the big tragedy is supposed to be.


Where do these COLA trolls come from? I bet that it is from under a big, slimy, green covered rock.

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#330488 — Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.

FromCharmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-02 17:38 -0500
SubjectRe: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.
Message-ID<n18oh9$582$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#330436
On 2015-11-02 3:06 PM, John Gohde wrote:
> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 12:00:11 PM UTC-5, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> On 2015-10-30, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> [snips]
>>>
>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:02:02 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then ...
>>>> http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets
>>>>
>>>> Notice, the clear separation of 32-bit ONLY Applets from 64-bit Applets
>>>> - NOT.
>>>
>>> This "applet" thingy looks like a mint+cinnamon specific thing.  I do use 
>>
>>     Sounds like panel applets. I can't comment on MATE but I would expect
>> anything but the most obscure project to be built for both architectures.
>> So it sounds like a non-problem really.
>>
>>     Another twerp trying to take a web link and turn it into something
>> it really isn't and blow it all out of proportion.
>>
>>> mint, don't use cinnamon, don't encounter this "issue" and frankly don't 
>>> really care.
>>
>>     I wonder what the big tragedy is supposed to be.
> 
> 
> Where do these COLA trolls come from? I bet that it is from under a big, slimy, green covered rock.

No, we don't come from your penis.
-- 
Charmed Tuna

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#330532 — Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-02 16:09 -0800
SubjectRe: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.
Message-ID<9ab46879-c686-4725-b6cd-f88fd7a2d13e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#330488
On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 5:38:40 PM UTC-5, Charmed Tuna wrote:
> On 2015-11-02 3:06 PM, John Gohde wrote:
> > On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 12:00:11 PM UTC-5, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> >> On 2015-10-30, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> [snips]
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:02:02 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Then ...
> >>>> http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets
> >>>>
> >>>> Notice, the clear separation of 32-bit ONLY Applets from 64-bit Applets
> >>>> - NOT.
> >>>
> >>> This "applet" thingy looks like a mint+cinnamon specific thing.  I do use 
> >>
> >>     Sounds like panel applets. I can't comment on MATE but I would expect
> >> anything but the most obscure project to be built for both architectures.
> >> So it sounds like a non-problem really.
> >>
> >>     Another twerp trying to take a web link and turn it into something
> >> it really isn't and blow it all out of proportion.
> >>
> >>> mint, don't use cinnamon, don't encounter this "issue" and frankly don't 
> >>> really care.
> >>
> >>     I wonder what the big tragedy is supposed to be.
> > 
> > 
> > Where do these COLA trolls come from? I bet that it is from under a big, slimy, green covered rock.
> 
> No, we don't come from your penis.


"Christ people. This is just sh*t."--Linus

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#330597 — Re: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.

FromKelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-02 22:51 -0800
SubjectRe: Kelsey Bjarnason is just another COLA ass hole.
Message-ID<052mgc-0ll.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>
In reply to#330370
On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:31:56 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:

> On 2015-10-30, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
>> [snips]
>>
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:02:02 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
>>
>>> Then ...
>>> http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets
>>> 
>>> Notice, the clear separation of 32-bit ONLY Applets from 64-bit
>>> Applets - NOT.
>>
>> This "applet" thingy looks like a mint+cinnamon specific thing.  I do
>> use
> 
>     Sounds like panel applets.

Could be.  However, since he persists in using it in a very non-specific 
manner, it could have meant damn near anything.


Once you pin him down, as you noticed, it turns out to be a very trivial 
issue with one particular DM on one particular distro... even, 
presumably, one particular *version* of said DM and/or distro... making 
the fix, even on the system in question, pretty much a trivial thing.

Oh my, LGX is about to come crumbling down.  Hee hee.

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#330629 — Why do Fucking Morons like you always manage to congregate in Linux circles?

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-03 05:26 -0800
SubjectWhy do Fucking Morons like you always manage to congregate in Linux circles?
Message-ID<94bc6f2a-714a-4350-96de-38a831aac48e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#330597
On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 2:00:06 AM UTC-5, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:31:56 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> 
> > On 2015-10-30, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> [snips]
> >>
> >> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:02:02 -0700, John Gohde wrote:
> >>
> >>> Then ...
> >>> http://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/applets
> >>> 
> >>> Notice, the clear separation of 32-bit ONLY Applets from 64-bit
> >>> Applets - NOT.
> >>
> >> This "applet" thingy looks like a mint+cinnamon specific thing.  I do
> >> use
> > 
> >     Sounds like panel applets.
> 
> Could be.  However, since he persists in using it in a very non-specific 
> manner, it could have meant damn near anything.
> 
> 
> Once you pin him down, as you noticed, it turns out to be a very trivial 
> issue with one particular DM on one particular distro... even, 
> presumably, one particular *version* of said DM and/or distro... making 
> the fix, even on the system in question, pretty much a trivial thing.
> 
> Oh my, LGX is about to come crumbling down.  Hee hee.


"Christ people. This is just sh*t."--Linus, the great one

Tell me Putz!  Why do Fucking Morons like you always manage to congregate in Linux circles?

You lost the argument long ago. It is high time for the Ass Holes of this world to give it up, roll over and die. :)

"Get rid of [your pollution]. And I don't *ever* want to see that shit again."

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#329426 — Re: Another Idiot Troll ... What a Joke!

Fromronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-29 15:26 +0000
SubjectRe: Another Idiot Troll ... What a Joke!
Message-ID<n0tdrp$ep8$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#329351
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 20:56:40 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:

> No idea what you're calling an "applet" in this context, but
> Applications work just fine in 64-bit mode.

Yep.

Subject Line corrected to reflect reality.

-- 
Zero tolerance for WinDrones and iCultists

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#329507

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-29 10:31 -0700
Message-ID<0e5a75e2-0fef-403e-b415-096a7680aed6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#329096
.Any body using a 64-bit Linux desktop is lying about how great it is.  Why is Moi NOT surprised?

.Moi found out that most of the Linux Applets do NOT work in 64-bit Cinnamon Mint, on day one.

.In other words, using 64-bit Linux is a joke since far too many of the Linux APPs don't work in it.  Furthermore, the 32-bit ONLY Applets are not properly segregated from 64-bit Applets in any Linux Desktop distro. Moi would not be surprised at all if the same problems exists in the Desklets, Extensions, and even some APPs.

.Yeah, these Linux clowns can barely produce 32-bit APPs that update properly, let alone fool with 64-bit versions.  Maybe in another 20-years - LOL?

.Je suis Moi, posted from Mint.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bVDQ4rVrM4

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