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Nobody gets cut anymore!

Started byDoomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s>
First post2018-05-08 17:30 -0400
Last post2018-05-10 10:06 -0700
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  Nobody gets cut anymore! Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-08 17:30 -0400
    Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-05-09 01:52 +0000
      Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-09 07:49 -0400
        Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-05-10 13:18 +0000
          Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-10 16:26 +0000
            Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-05-10 16:49 +0000
              Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-10 17:09 +0000
                Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-05-10 17:58 +0000
                  Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-10 18:21 +0000
                    Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-05-10 18:36 +0000
                      Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-10 19:02 +0000
                        Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-05-10 19:45 +0000
                          Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-10 20:49 +0000
                            I was like Mr Owl, 28 years ago. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-10 14:14 -0700
                      Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 12:27 -0700
                  Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 11:25 -0700
              Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-10 12:34 -0500
                Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-05-10 18:04 +0000
                  Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-10 13:35 -0500
                    Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-05-10 19:39 +0000
                      Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-10 14:54 -0500
                        Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 13:14 -0700
                        Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-05-10 20:39 +0000
                      Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 12:54 -0700
                        Steve needs Fabian and Michael. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-10 13:09 -0700
                          Re: Steve needs Fabian and Michael. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 13:14 -0700
                            Re: Steve needs Fabian and Michael. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 13:22 -0700
                              Re: Steve needs Fabian and Michael. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 14:01 -0700
                              Maurice Clemmons isn't a 90 year old Japanese lady. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-10 14:03 -0700
                                Re: Maurice Clemmons isn't a 90 year old Japanese lady. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 14:18 -0700
                                  Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-10 14:51 -0700
                                    Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 15:02 -0700
                                      Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 08:00 -0700
                                        Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-11 08:40 -0700
                                          Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 08:46 -0700
                                            Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-11 08:49 -0700
                                              Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 10:09 -0700
                                                Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 11:15 -0700
                                                  Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 11:24 -0700
                                                    Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 18:28 +0000
                                                      Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 11:30 -0700
                                                        Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 18:33 +0000
                                                          Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 11:38 -0700
                                                            Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 11:49 -0700
                                                              Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 12:28 -0700
                                                                Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 14:41 -0700
                                                                  Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 14:52 -0700
                                                                    Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 15:18 -0700
                                                                    Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 21:51 -0700
                                                                  Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 18:14 -0700
                                            Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 08:52 -0700
                          Re: Steve needs Fabian and Michael. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 13:18 -0700
                        Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 13:10 -0700
                        Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-05-10 20:47 +0000
                          Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-10 20:55 +0000
                            Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-05-10 21:15 +0000
                              Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-10 21:24 +0000
                          Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 14:07 -0700
                            Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 14:19 -0700
                      Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-10 20:43 +0000
            Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 10:06 -0700

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#451084

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-05-10 14:54 -0500
Message-ID<4e89fd1jovt48algr2hhujsdl81u282lvl@4ax.com>
In reply to#451082
F. Russell wrote:

>Traveling to a fucking gym or even getting properly dressed
>to go outdoors would be a HORRENDOUS WASTE of time.

Do you not change clothes to exersize on your machines?  

Do you shower, afterwards, or is that also a "horrendous waste of
time"?

>Exercise machines are the ONLY sensible way to do it.
>
>Period.
>
>Case closed.

I see, at races, these people who usually train on machines.  Probably
dicking-around with their phones, while they're at it.  They're not as
strong as the real runners.

-- 
'When China dumps textiles below cost people get all upset over it
saying it hurts US companies. Fundementally this is no different then
dumping free software "below cost"' -  Larry "message ID" Qualig

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#451088

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-10 13:14 -0700
Message-ID<d83dc07c-aa07-4acd-8d72-fb867387a65e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#451084
On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 12:54:12 PM UTC-7, chrisv wrote:
> F. Russell wrote:
> 
> >Traveling to a fucking gym or even getting properly dressed
> >to go outdoors would be a HORRENDOUS WASTE of time.
> 
> Do you not change clothes to exersize on your machines?  
> 
> Do you shower, afterwards, or is that also a "horrendous waste of
> time"?
> 
> >Exercise machines are the ONLY sensible way to do it.
> >
> >Period.
> >
> >Case closed.
> 
> I see, at races, these people who usually train on machines.  Probably
> dicking-around with their phones, while they're at it.  They're not as
> strong as the real runners.
> 
> -- 
> 'When China dumps textiles below cost people get all upset over it
> saying it hurts US companies. Fundementally this is no different then
> dumping free software "below cost"' -  Larry "message ID" Qualig



It was William Unruh who flooded Alan Baker's site thousands of times and refused to admit it. 

You've proven that it is William Unruh. 

I have a custom setup I use as well, but it's a bit different. 

I'm not irked, in fact I am busting a gut because William Unruh's lying is so transparent. He actively did not mention all the tasks that he would quickly focus on... and we all know why, William Unruh made that much clear. At least he has other trolls rushing to his rescue ;) 

-- 
E-commerce Simplified
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhOfBmWwCVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AglvCo3dJ38&feature=youtu.be
Jonas Eklundh Communication

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#451103

From"F. Russell" <fr@random.info>
Date2018-05-10 20:39 +0000
Message-ID<pd2ami02e6u@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#451084
On Thu, 10 May 2018 14:54:09 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> 
> Do you shower, afterwards, or is that also a "horrendous waste of
> time"?
> 

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  What an absurd question -- and it is also
non sequitur.

Let's see if you can answer this one:  Is it quicker to drive
20 miles to the health club and have a shower than walking
20 feet to do the same?

But I employ a large fan to blow high velocity currents of air
across me when I use my machines.  It helps to reduce the
sweating.

Now stop attempting to overturn my arguments.  It cannot be done.

Exercise machine are the BEST solution.

Period.

Case closed.

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#451085

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-10 12:54 -0700
Message-ID<7603eb27-f2ad-4c81-96f9-aed7e8a0bb8a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#451082
On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 1:39:53 PM UTC-6, F. Russell wrote:
> On Thu, 10 May 2018 13:35:44 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Your claim, that machines are required for fitness,
> > 
> 
> Hey idiot.  Hey retard.  Are you hallucinating again?
> That was NEVER my claim.

LOL!

"To improve FITNESS one requires the machines that I mentioned." - Feeb
Message-ID: <pd1t5s0ku4@news1.newsguy.com>

Trying to mimic Crackhead's more bizarre behavior still won't
make you as 'famous' as he is.

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#451086 — Steve needs Fabian and Michael.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-05-10 13:09 -0700
SubjectSteve needs Fabian and Michael.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--1.09pm.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#451085
> > > Your claim, that machines are required for fitness,
> > 
> > Hey idiot.  Hey retard.  Are you hallucinating again?
> > That was NEVER my claim.
> 
> "To improve FITNESS one requires the machines that I mentioned." 
> - Feeb  <pd1t5s0ku4@news1.newsguy.com>
> 
> Trying to mimic Crackhead's more bizarre behavior 
> still won't make you as 'famous' as he is.

You ( Steve ) need Fabian and Michael; nothing could be more obvious.

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#451089 — Re: Steve needs Fabian and Michael.

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-10 13:14 -0700
SubjectRe: Steve needs Fabian and Michael.
Message-ID<fa2e7c89-7971-4385-b68c-d5ad21d42a05@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#451086
On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 2:09:47 PM UTC-6, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > > Your claim, that machines are required for fitness,
> > > 
> > > Hey idiot.  Hey retard.  Are you hallucinating again?
> > > That was NEVER my claim.
> > 
> > "To improve FITNESS one requires the machines that I mentioned." 
> > - Feeb  <pd1t5s0ku4@news1.newsguy.com>
> > 
> > Trying to mimic Crackhead's more bizarre behavior 
> > still won't make you as 'famous' as he is.
> 
> You ( Steve ) need Fabian and Michael; nothing could be more obvious.

??? I've never denied that *the* reason I come here is to smack trolls around.

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#451095 — Re: Steve needs Fabian and Michael.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-05-10 13:22 -0700
SubjectRe: Steve needs Fabian and Michael.
Message-ID<fljo0aFo6o9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#451089
On 5/10/18 1:14 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 2:09:47 PM UTC-6, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>>> Your claim, that machines are required for fitness,
>>>>
>>>> Hey idiot.  Hey retard.  Are you hallucinating again?
>>>> That was NEVER my claim.
>>>
>>> "To improve FITNESS one requires the machines that I mentioned."
>>> - Feeb  <pd1t5s0ku4@news1.newsguy.com>
>>>
>>> Trying to mimic Crackhead's more bizarre behavior
>>> still won't make you as 'famous' as he is.
>>
>> You ( Steve ) need Fabian and Michael; nothing could be more obvious.
> 
> ??? I've never denied that *the* reason I come here is to smack trolls around.
> 
You are again blaming others for YOUR behavior.

Look at what you recently have done:

* You whined about a black man being shown as an example of healthy 
masculinity.

* You lied about me equating things I did not, and otherwise lied about 
and twisted what I said.

* In the context of police shootings, you said it made sense to you for 
them to have a bias against blacks.

* You showed deep ignorance about the weaknesses of using a single test 
to judge the qualifications of an individual.

* You projected your reading comprehension and drug addiction issues 
onto me.

* When you backed yourself into a corner you reacted with anger -- name 
calling, insults, lies, and more.

* you insisted Politfact has a bias but failed to show any rating they 
have which you can show a bias

* You pushed absurd nonsense about Politifact picking what comments to 
rate as if someone suggested otherwise or as if it would be possible to 
rate EVERY comment someone said!

* Nit picked some wording of mine only to have me agree and offer better 
wording, but then you went back to it picking the SAME wording!

On and on and on... trolling and lashing out. But you blame others for it.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#451110 — Re: Steve needs Fabian and Michael.

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-10 14:01 -0700
SubjectRe: Steve needs Fabian and Michael.
Message-ID<4ea00b41-aff1-4612-bc32-e0296ce8c4be@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#451095
On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 1:22:37 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 5/10/18 1:14 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 2:09:47 PM UTC-6, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >>>>> Your claim, that machines are required for fitness,
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey idiot.  Hey retard.  Are you hallucinating again?
> >>>> That was NEVER my claim.
> >>>
> >>> "To improve FITNESS one requires the machines that I mentioned."
> >>> - Feeb  <pd1t5s0ku4@news1.newsguy.com>
> >>>
> >>> Trying to mimic Crackhead's more bizarre behavior
> >>> still won't make you as 'famous' as he is.
> >>
> >> You ( Steve ) need Fabian and Michael; nothing could be more obvious.
> > 
> > ??? I've never denied that *the* reason I come here is to smack trolls around.
> > 
> You are again blaming others for YOUR behavior.
> 
> Look at what you recently have done:
> 
> * You whined about a black man being shown as an example of healthy 
> masculinity.
> 
> * You lied about me equating things I did not, and otherwise lied about 
> and twisted what I said.
> 
> * In the context of police shootings, you said it made sense to you for 
> them to have a bias against blacks.
> 
> * You showed deep ignorance about the weaknesses of using a single test 
> to judge the qualifications of an individual.
> 
> * You projected your reading comprehension and drug addiction issues 
> onto me.
> 
> * When you backed yourself into a corner you reacted with anger -- name 
> calling, insults, lies, and more.
> 
> * you insisted Politfact has a bias but failed to show any rating they 
> have which you can show a bias
> 
> * You pushed absurd nonsense about Politifact picking what comments to 
> rate as if someone suggested otherwise or as if it would be possible to 
> rate EVERY comment someone said!
> 
> * Nit picked some wording of mine only to have me agree and offer better 
> wording, but then you went back to it picking the SAME wording!
> 
> On and on and on... trolling and lashing out. But you blame others for it.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> 
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>



I am working on code which will show off how weak Linux is. Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis has yet to show how Scrivener does anything above the lowest common denominator on Linux. 

Unity is clearly my second favorite DE and the only one I recommend to Windows morons. Primary interface is Trinity, though. A large number of core applications is all you require after all. 

It is easy to pick by bragging about a small number of outliers differing from what is typical. What is more important from an honest advocates outlook are the ordinary operations. 

Hope Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis likes the tranquility in the teeming shit hole of my rubbish bin. I shan't ask Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis how any part of DFS's rear tastes no matter how often Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis kisses it. 

All joking aside, what lie? If Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis calls having his lies quoted day in and day out by dozens of people 'trolling', then fine... he is a magnificent troll. I can not personally go along with that view, I use another term. I call him an utter fool. 



--
"You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about him. He clearly wants the attention"
Steven Petruzzellis, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.

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#451111 — Maurice Clemmons isn't a 90 year old Japanese lady.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-05-10 14:03 -0700
SubjectMaurice Clemmons isn't a 90 year old Japanese lady.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--2.03pm.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#451095
Michael Glasser told Steve Carroll:
> * In the context of police shootings, you said it made sense 
> to you for them to have a bias against blacks.

It's not just blacks, it's males too, the poor and crazy.
Profiling is bad, just as giving away needles is bad,
but it's better than the alternative ( dead cops, dead junkies ).

We search for the LeastBad option, hold our noses, and go for it.

From WikiPedia:

  four police officers [...] were fatally shot at 
  the Forza ( now Blue Steele ) Coffee shop [...] near Tacoma.  

  A gunman, later identified as Maurice Clemmons,
  entered the coffee shop, shot the officers who were working
  on laptops to prepare for their shifts, and fled the scene.  

  Prior to his involvement in the shooting, Clemmons 
  had at least five felony convictions in Arkansas and 
  at least eight felony charges in Washington.

  His first incarceration began in 1989, at age 17. 

  Facing sentences totaling 108 years in prison, 
  the burglary sentences were reduced in 2000 by Governor of 
  Arkansas Mike Huckabee to 47 years, which made him 
  immediately eligible for parole. 

  The Arkansas Parole Board unanimously moved to release him in 2000. 

  Clemmons was subsequently arrested on other charges 
  and was jailed several times. In the months prior to 
  the Parkland shooting, he was in jail on charges of
 
  ASSAULTING A POLICE OFFICER  AND  RAPING A CHILD . 

  One week prior to the Parkland shooting, he was released 
  from jail after posting a $150,000 bail bond.    

Note: Maurice Clemmons isn't a 90 year old Japanese lady.
      Google.COM/search?tbm=isch&q=Maurice+Clemmons

> * You showed deep ignorance about the weaknesses of using 
> a single test to judge the qualifications of an individual.

Again, it's the LeastBad option.
Hold your nose, Go for it.

> * You projected your reading comprehension 
> and drug addiction issues onto me.

Steve is a musician, maybe he likes to party.

> * When you backed yourself into a corner you reacted with anger 
> -- name calling, insults, lies, and more.

No need for that, I think.

> * you insisted Politfact has a bias    but failed to show it

They promote premises that are useful to their tribe;
compared to this, truthiness simply doesn't matter. 

> * Nit picked some wording of mine only to have me agree and offer better 
> wording, but then you went back to it picking the SAME wording!

Steve looks for humility in you two, Michael and Fabian,
knowing he won't find it; he gets off on it, somehow.

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#451116 — Re: Maurice Clemmons isn't a 90 year old Japanese lady.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-05-10 14:18 -0700
SubjectRe: Maurice Clemmons isn't a 90 year old Japanese lady.
Message-ID<fljr96Fos46U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#451111
On 5/10/18 2:03 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Michael Glasser told Steve Carroll:
>> * In the context of police shootings, you said it made sense
>> to you for them to have a bias against blacks.
> 
> It's not just blacks, it's males too, the poor and crazy.
> Profiling is bad, just as giving away needles is bad,
> but it's better than the alternative ( dead cops, dead junkies ).

If we are going to do that, will you at least be consistent and accept 
profiling in affirmative action? If you are going to assume color 
represents danger the it also represents lack of opportunity and we 
should balance that with quotas.

Personally I reject both.

> We search for the LeastBad option, hold our noses, and go for it.
> 
>  From WikiPedia:
> 
>    four police officers [...] were fatally shot at
>    the Forza ( now Blue Steele ) Coffee shop [...] near Tacoma.
> 
>    A gunman, later identified as Maurice Clemmons,
>    entered the coffee shop, shot the officers who were working
>    on laptops to prepare for their shifts, and fled the scene.
> 
>    Prior to his involvement in the shooting, Clemmons
>    had at least five felony convictions in Arkansas and
>    at least eight felony charges in Washington.
> 
>    His first incarceration began in 1989, at age 17.
> 
>    Facing sentences totaling 108 years in prison,
>    the burglary sentences were reduced in 2000 by Governor of
>    Arkansas Mike Huckabee to 47 years, which made him
>    immediately eligible for parole.
> 
>    The Arkansas Parole Board unanimously moved to release him in 2000.
> 
>    Clemmons was subsequently arrested on other charges
>    and was jailed several times. In the months prior to
>    the Parkland shooting, he was in jail on charges of
>   
>    ASSAULTING A POLICE OFFICER  AND  RAPING A CHILD .
> 
>    One week prior to the Parkland shooting, he was released
>    from jail after posting a $150,000 bail bond.
> 
> Note: Maurice Clemmons isn't a 90 year old Japanese lady.
>        Google.COM/search?tbm=isch&q=Maurice+Clemmons
> 
>> * You showed deep ignorance about the weaknesses of using
>> a single test to judge the qualifications of an individual.
> 
> Again, it's the LeastBad option.
> Hold your nose, Go for it.

Why is it the least bad option?

>> * You projected your reading comprehension
>> and drug addiction issues onto me.
> 
> Steve is a musician, maybe he likes to party.

LOL! Could be.

>> * When you backed yourself into a corner you reacted with anger
>> -- name calling, insults, lies, and more.
> 
> No need for that, I think.

Agreed.

>> * you insisted Politfact has a bias    but failed to show it
> 
> They promote premises that are useful to their tribe;
> compared to this, truthiness simply doesn't matter.

They may be biased... but he has yet to show it. He did ask me to help 
him show it, though, as he spewed his insults and accusations.

>> * Nit picked some wording of mine only to have me agree and offer better
>> wording, but then you went back to it picking the SAME wording!
> 
> Steve looks for humility in you two, Michael and Fabian,
> knowing he won't find it; he gets off on it, somehow.
> 
Carroll seeks to demonize me and blame me for all of his troubles, 
including his divorce.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#451121 — Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-05-10 14:51 -0700
SubjectPerfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@May.10--2.51pm.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#451116
Michael replied ( to me ):
> > Steve looks for humility in you two, Michael and Fabian,
> > knowing he won't find it; he gets off on it, somehow.
> 
> Carroll seeks to demonize me and blame me for all of his troubles, 
> including his divorce.

You insult him to you absolve yourself, proving my point.

> > It's not just blacks, it's males too, the poor and crazy.
> > Profiling is bad, just as giving away needles is bad,
> > but it's better than the alternative ( dead cops, dead junkies ).
> 
> If we are going to do that, will you at least be consistent and accept 
> profiling in affirmative action?  If you are going to assume color 
> represents danger the it also represents lack of opportunity and we 
> should balance that with quotas.  Personally I reject both.

Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.
Dead Cops and Dead Junkies are one thing;
"equal outcomes", regardless of talent, Soviet style, is another.

When the BrownEyed do it, in North Korea and Nepal, SovietTards say it's wrong;
when BlueEyed Norway does it, SovietTards say it's the greatest.

> > > * You showed deep ignorance about the weaknesses of using
> > > a single test to judge the qualifications of an individual.
> > 
> > Again, it's the LeastBad option.
> > Hold your nose, Go for it.
> 
> Why is it the least bad option?

Because neither "they" ( the best schools ) nor you,
have come up with anything less bad ( e.g. CryptoCurrency grading ).

> > > * you insisted Politfact has a bias    but failed to show it
> > 
> > They promote premises that are useful to their tribe;
> > compared to this, truthiness simply doesn't matter.
> 
> They may be biased... but he has yet to show it.

They're BlueEyed SovietTards, no BrownEyes need apply;
they project their (subconscious) racism onto others.

Like Steve, I feel no need to prove this to anyone;
likewise, I feel no need to debate FlatEarthers.

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#451122 — Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-05-10 15:02 -0700
SubjectRe: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.
Message-ID<fljtshFpg05U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#451121
On 5/10/18 2:51 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Michael replied ( to me ):
>>> Steve looks for humility in you two, Michael and Fabian,
>>> knowing he won't find it; he gets off on it, somehow.
>>
>> Carroll seeks to demonize me and blame me for all of his troubles,
>> including his divorce.
> 
> You insult him to you absolve yourself, proving my point.

I noted facts about him. I also own my mistakes. When he nit picked some 
wording of mine, for example, I owned my error.

>>> It's not just blacks, it's males too, the poor and crazy.
>>> Profiling is bad, just as giving away needles is bad,
>>> but it's better than the alternative ( dead cops, dead junkies ).
>>
>> If we are going to do that, will you at least be consistent and accept
>> profiling in affirmative action?  If you are going to assume color
>> represents danger the it also represents lack of opportunity and we
>> should balance that with quotas.  Personally I reject both.
> 
> Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.
> Dead Cops and Dead Junkies are one thing;
> "equal outcomes", regardless of talent, Soviet style, is another.
> 
> When the BrownEyed do it, in North Korea and Nepal, SovietTards say it's wrong;
> when BlueEyed Norway does it, SovietTards say it's the greatest.

To me they are the same: if you are going to judge by color than be 
consistent. I reject doing so.

>>>> * You showed deep ignorance about the weaknesses of using
>>>> a single test to judge the qualifications of an individual.
>>>
>>> Again, it's the LeastBad option.
>>> Hold your nose, Go for it.
>>
>> Why is it the least bad option?
> 
> Because neither "they" ( the best schools ) nor you,
> have come up with anything less bad ( e.g. CryptoCurrency grading ).

I mean merely what Carroll quoted: using grades and the like. Anyone can 
have a bad day, and a great student can be a poor tester (and a poor 
student a great tester).

I happen to be a very good tester... but I know that does not mean I am 
better qualified than some poor testers.

>>>> * you insisted Politfact has a bias    but failed to show it
>>>
>>> They promote premises that are useful to their tribe;
>>> compared to this, truthiness simply doesn't matter.
>>
>> They may be biased... but he has yet to show it.
> 
> They're BlueEyed SovietTards, no BrownEyes need apply;
> they project their (subconscious) racism onto others.
> 
> Like Steve, I feel no need to prove this to anyone;
> likewise, I feel no need to debate FlatEarthers.

I have no issue with you not supporting your views... just do not expect 
me to agree with unsupported views. I am very much tied to evidence and 
support, science and data.



-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#451163 — Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-11 08:00 -0700
SubjectRe: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.
Message-ID<da073e70-db49-4849-8487-1126715ff08d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#451122
On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:03:00 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 5/10/18 2:51 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> > Michael replied ( to me ):
> >>> Steve looks for humility in you two, Michael and Fabian,
> >>> knowing he won't find it; he gets off on it, somehow.
> >>
> >> Carroll seeks to demonize me and blame me for all of his troubles,
> >> including his divorce.
> > 
> > You insult him to you absolve yourself, proving my point.
> 
> I noted facts about him.

Delusions aren’t “facts”.

> > Like Steve, I feel no need to prove this to anyone;
> > likewise, I feel no need to debate FlatEarthers.
 
Even they appear less delusional than Snit often does.

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#451167 — Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-05-11 08:40 -0700
SubjectRe: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.
Message-ID<fllrrvF7u5pU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#451163
On 5/11/18 8:00 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:03:00 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 5/10/18 2:51 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>> Michael replied ( to me ):
>>>>> Steve looks for humility in you two, Michael and Fabian,
>>>>> knowing he won't find it; he gets off on it, somehow.
>>>>
>>>> Carroll seeks to demonize me and blame me for all of his troubles,
>>>> including his divorce.
>>>
>>> You insult him to you absolve yourself, proving my point.
>>
>> I noted facts about him.
> 
> Delusions aren’t “facts”.
> 
>>> Like Steve, I feel no need to prove this to anyone;
>>> likewise, I feel no need to debate FlatEarthers.
>   
> Even they appear less delusional than Snit often does.
> 
To Carroll's family: this is an example of what you asked about.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#451168 — Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-11 08:46 -0700
SubjectRe: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.
Message-ID<8c04939e-de2b-420a-96e0-e4c4e81cbc7a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#451167
On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 9:40:51 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 5/11/18 8:00 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:03:00 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >> On 5/10/18 2:51 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> >>> Michael replied ( to me ):
> >>>>> Steve looks for humility in you two, Michael and Fabian,
> >>>>> knowing he won't find it; he gets off on it, somehow.
> >>>>
> >>>> Carroll seeks to demonize me and blame me for all of his troubles,
> >>>> including his divorce.
> >>>
> >>> You insult him to you absolve yourself, proving my point.
> >>
> >> I noted facts about him.
> > 
> > Delusions aren’t “facts”.
> > 
> >>> Like Steve, I feel no need to prove this to anyone;
> >>> likewise, I feel no need to debate FlatEarthers.
> >   
> > Even they appear less delusional than Snit often does.
> > 
> To Carroll's family: this is an example of what you asked about.

LOL! I thought you were in “contact” with them? Oops!

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#451169 — Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-05-11 08:49 -0700
SubjectRe: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.
Message-ID<fllsc6F825uU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#451168
On 5/11/18 8:46 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 9:40:51 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 5/11/18 8:00 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:03:00 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 5/10/18 2:51 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>> Michael replied ( to me ):
>>>>>>> Steve looks for humility in you two, Michael and Fabian,
>>>>>>> knowing he won't find it; he gets off on it, somehow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carroll seeks to demonize me and blame me for all of his troubles,
>>>>>> including his divorce.
>>>>>
>>>>> You insult him to you absolve yourself, proving my point.
>>>>
>>>> I noted facts about him.
>>>
>>> Delusions aren’t “facts”.
>>>
>>>>> Like Steve, I feel no need to prove this to anyone;
>>>>> likewise, I feel no need to debate FlatEarthers.
>>>    
>>> Even they appear less delusional than Snit often does.
>>>
>> To Carroll's family: this is an example of what you asked about.
> 
> LOL! I thought you were in “contact” with them? Oops!
> 
Another example of his work to put others on the defensive.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#451353 — Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-14 10:09 -0700
SubjectRe: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.
Message-ID<7ee98536-aa4f-4c97-b24d-5386f1f42028@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#451169
On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 9:49:29 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 5/11/18 8:46 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 9:40:51 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >> On 5/11/18 8:00 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:03:00 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >>>> On 5/10/18 2:51 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> >>>>> Michael replied ( to me ):
> >>>>>>> Steve looks for humility in you two, Michael and Fabian,
> >>>>>>> knowing he won't find it; he gets off on it, somehow.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Carroll seeks to demonize me and blame me for all of his troubles,
> >>>>>> including his divorce.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You insult him to you absolve yourself, proving my point.
> >>>>
> >>>> I noted facts about him.
> >>>
> >>> Delusions aren’t “facts”.
> >>>
> >>>>> Like Steve, I feel no need to prove this to anyone;
> >>>>> likewise, I feel no need to debate FlatEarthers.
> >>>    
> >>> Even they appear less delusional than Snit often does.
> >>>
> >> To Carroll's family: this is an example of what you asked about.
> > 
> > LOL! I thought you were in “contact” with them? Oops!
> > 
> Another example of his work to put others on the defensive.

LOL! I guess it's not obvious enough for you: If you are in contact,
why are you alerting them in posts? Why not just provide them with
direct links to the posts and give your explanations in these alleged
"contact" episodes, as well? I'm sure you have a great reason ;)

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#451359 — Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-05-14 11:15 -0700
SubjectRe: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.
Message-ID<flu21mF2dt2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#451353
On 5/14/18 10:09 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 9:49:29 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 5/11/18 8:46 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 9:40:51 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 5/11/18 8:00 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:03:00 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/10/18 2:51 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>>>> Michael replied ( to me ):
>>>>>>>>> Steve looks for humility in you two, Michael and Fabian,
>>>>>>>>> knowing he won't find it; he gets off on it, somehow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carroll seeks to demonize me and blame me for all of his troubles,
>>>>>>>> including his divorce.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You insult him to you absolve yourself, proving my point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I noted facts about him.
>>>>>
>>>>> Delusions aren’t “facts”.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like Steve, I feel no need to prove this to anyone;
>>>>>>> likewise, I feel no need to debate FlatEarthers.
>>>>>     
>>>>> Even they appear less delusional than Snit often does.
>>>>>
>>>> To Carroll's family: this is an example of what you asked about.
>>>
>>> LOL! I thought you were in “contact” with them? Oops!
>>>
>> Another example of his work to put others on the defensive.
> 
> LOL! I guess it's not obvious enough for you: If you are in contact,
> why are you alerting them in posts? Why not just provide them with
> direct links to the posts and give your explanations in these alleged
> "contact" episodes, as well? I'm sure you have a great reason ;)
> 
Gee, let me tell you ALL about their contacting me. Yeah, that is gonna 
happen.

LOL!

I will say I have initiated NOTHING and only respond to their messages. 
And when I say "they" I may mean one person or more.

If you want to know more, talk to your family about their concerns. They 
fact you focus on ME about EVERYTHING in your life is a big part of your 
problem. Your family should be more important to you than I am.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#451361 — Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-14 11:24 -0700
SubjectRe: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.
Message-ID<0fbc528f-854a-4aa9-8526-984b18730500@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#451359
On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 12:15:21 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 5/14/18 10:09 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 9:49:29 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >> On 5/11/18 8:46 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>> On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 9:40:51 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >>>> On 5/11/18 8:00 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:03:00 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>> On 5/10/18 2:51 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> >>>>>>> Michael replied ( to me ):
> >>>>>>>>> Steve looks for humility in you two, Michael and Fabian,
> >>>>>>>>> knowing he won't find it; he gets off on it, somehow.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Carroll seeks to demonize me and blame me for all of his troubles,
> >>>>>>>> including his divorce.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You insult him to you absolve yourself, proving my point.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I noted facts about him.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Delusions aren’t “facts”.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Like Steve, I feel no need to prove this to anyone;
> >>>>>>> likewise, I feel no need to debate FlatEarthers.
> >>>>>     
> >>>>> Even they appear less delusional than Snit often does.
> >>>>>
> >>>> To Carroll's family: this is an example of what you asked about.
> >>>
> >>> LOL! I thought you were in “contact” with them? Oops!
> >>>
> >> Another example of his work to put others on the defensive.
> > 
> > LOL! I guess it's not obvious enough for you: If you are in contact,
> > why are you alerting them in posts? Why not just provide them with
> > direct links to the posts and give your explanations in these alleged
> > "contact" episodes, as well? I'm sure you have a great reason ;)
> > 
> Gee, let me tell you ALL about their contacting me.

What does the method matter? You're either in contact, or not.
Were you, it'd make no sense to have anyone play scavenger 
hunt for posts you're allegedly trying to alert anyone to read.
Even the dumbest of the dumb would simply provide a link. See... 
this is called common sense and it's *the* reason no one ever 
falls for any of your silly BS ;)

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#451363 — Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-05-14 18:28 +0000
SubjectRe: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad.
Message-ID<flu2qnF2j8oU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#451361
Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 12:15:21 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 5/14/18 10:09 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 9:49:29 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 5/11/18 8:46 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 9:40:51 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/11/18 8:00 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:03:00 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/10/18 2:51 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Michael replied ( to me ):
>>>>>>>>>>> Steve looks for humility in you two, Michael and Fabian,
>>>>>>>>>>> knowing he won't find it; he gets off on it, somehow.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Carroll seeks to demonize me and blame me for all of his troubles,
>>>>>>>>>> including his divorce.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You insult him to you absolve yourself, proving my point.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I noted facts about him.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Delusions aren’t “facts”.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Like Steve, I feel no need to prove this to anyone;
>>>>>>>>> likewise, I feel no need to debate FlatEarthers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Even they appear less delusional than Snit often does.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To Carroll's family: this is an example of what you asked about.
>>>>> 
>>>>> LOL! I thought you were in “contact” with them? Oops!
>>>>> 
>>>> Another example of his work to put others on the defensive.
>>> 
>>> LOL! I guess it's not obvious enough for you: If you are in contact,
>>> why are you alerting them in posts? Why not just provide them with
>>> direct links to the posts and give your explanations in these alleged
>>> "contact" episodes, as well? I'm sure you have a great reason ;)
>>> 
>> Gee, let me tell you ALL about their contacting me.
> 
> What does the method matter? You're either in contact, or not.
> Were you, it'd make no sense to have anyone play scavenger 
> hunt for posts you're allegedly trying to alert anyone to read.
> Even the dumbest of the dumb would simply provide a link. See... 
> this is called common sense and it's *the* reason no one ever 
> falls for any of your silly BS ;)
> 
> 

To Carroll’s family: excellent example. 

LOL!


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