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Re: Maurice Clemmons isn't a 90 year old Japanese lady.

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On 5/10/18 2:03 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Michael Glasser told Steve Carroll:
>> * In the context of police shootings, you said it made sense
>> to you for them to have a bias against blacks.
> 
> It's not just blacks, it's males too, the poor and crazy.
> Profiling is bad, just as giving away needles is bad,
> but it's better than the alternative ( dead cops, dead junkies ).

If we are going to do that, will you at least be consistent and accept 
profiling in affirmative action? If you are going to assume color 
represents danger the it also represents lack of opportunity and we 
should balance that with quotas.

Personally I reject both.

> We search for the LeastBad option, hold our noses, and go for it.
> 
>  From WikiPedia:
> 
>    four police officers [...] were fatally shot at
>    the Forza ( now Blue Steele ) Coffee shop [...] near Tacoma.
> 
>    A gunman, later identified as Maurice Clemmons,
>    entered the coffee shop, shot the officers who were working
>    on laptops to prepare for their shifts, and fled the scene.
> 
>    Prior to his involvement in the shooting, Clemmons
>    had at least five felony convictions in Arkansas and
>    at least eight felony charges in Washington.
> 
>    His first incarceration began in 1989, at age 17.
> 
>    Facing sentences totaling 108 years in prison,
>    the burglary sentences were reduced in 2000 by Governor of
>    Arkansas Mike Huckabee to 47 years, which made him
>    immediately eligible for parole.
> 
>    The Arkansas Parole Board unanimously moved to release him in 2000.
> 
>    Clemmons was subsequently arrested on other charges
>    and was jailed several times. In the months prior to
>    the Parkland shooting, he was in jail on charges of
>   
>    ASSAULTING A POLICE OFFICER  AND  RAPING A CHILD .
> 
>    One week prior to the Parkland shooting, he was released
>    from jail after posting a $150,000 bail bond.
> 
> Note: Maurice Clemmons isn't a 90 year old Japanese lady.
>        Google.COM/search?tbm=isch&q=Maurice+Clemmons
> 
>> * You showed deep ignorance about the weaknesses of using
>> a single test to judge the qualifications of an individual.
> 
> Again, it's the LeastBad option.
> Hold your nose, Go for it.

Why is it the least bad option?

>> * You projected your reading comprehension
>> and drug addiction issues onto me.
> 
> Steve is a musician, maybe he likes to party.

LOL! Could be.

>> * When you backed yourself into a corner you reacted with anger
>> -- name calling, insults, lies, and more.
> 
> No need for that, I think.

Agreed.

>> * you insisted Politfact has a bias    but failed to show it
> 
> They promote premises that are useful to their tribe;
> compared to this, truthiness simply doesn't matter.

They may be biased... but he has yet to show it. He did ask me to help 
him show it, though, as he spewed his insults and accusations.

>> * Nit picked some wording of mine only to have me agree and offer better
>> wording, but then you went back to it picking the SAME wording!
> 
> Steve looks for humility in you two, Michael and Fabian,
> knowing he won't find it; he gets off on it, somehow.
> 
Carroll seeks to demonize me and blame me for all of his troubles, 
including his divorce.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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                Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 13:14 -0700
                Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-05-10 20:39 +0000
                Re: Nobody gets cut anymore! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 12:54 -0700
                Steve needs Fabian and Michael. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-10 13:09 -0700
                Re: Steve needs Fabian and Michael. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-10 13:14 -0700
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                Maurice Clemmons isn't a 90 year old Japanese lady. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-10 14:03 -0700
                Re: Maurice Clemmons isn't a 90 year old Japanese lady. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-10 14:18 -0700
                Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-10 14:51 -0700
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                Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 11:24 -0700
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                Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 11:30 -0700
                Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 18:33 +0000
                Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 11:38 -0700
                Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 11:49 -0700
                Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 12:28 -0700
                Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 14:41 -0700
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                Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-14 15:18 -0700
                Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 21:51 -0700
                Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-14 18:14 -0700
                Re: Perfection is the enemy of the LeastBad. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-11 08:52 -0700
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