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Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.usenet.kooks
Subject Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal
Date 2016-04-16 03:41 +0000
Organization O.W.L.
Message-ID <ghjbnmvf9.a3@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
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In comp.os.linux.advocacy vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 03:12:05 +0000, owl wrote:
> 
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 03:01:49 +0000, owl wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 02:42:02 +0000, owl wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 02:19:48 +0000, owl wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> You know, this _is_ a "big 8" newsgroup.  Some news admins take
>>>>>>>>> big 8 group charters more seriously than an alt.* group charter.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What would happen if folks who wanted to clean up the group went
>>>>>>>>> full-on netcop on the troll's kkkreepy asses?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I suspect there is not the political will to commit to such a
>>>>>>>>> course of action, but thought I'd bring it up, if only to troll
>>>>>>>>> the trolls. Ha!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are you trying for kook of the month yourself?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't follow, please explain yourself.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, I haven't looked at AUK in about 15 years, but back then it
>>>>>> was always one netcop or another getting the awards.  Have things
>>>>>> changed?
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is some of that, but there also has to be an element of
>>>>> kookishness.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Like Wollmann.  He was always netkkkopping...and would get more and
>>>>> more frustrated when people didn't take him seriously.  Once was in
>>>>> regard to the famous "pantihed" banner ad, with him wearing a badly
>>>>> 'shopped pair of panties on his head.  Ah, memories.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But no, I don't think there's anything particularly kooky about
>>>>> opening a discussion of enforcing a big-8 group's charter.  A serious
>>>>> argument could be had one way or the other.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But if it were an alt.* group, that would probably be cuckoo.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finally, I'll point out that vv down there vv in the snubbery, you'll
>>>>> find one of the longest-standing trolls in the group responded with
>>>>> threats.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Must've put the fear of God in him -- and he wears his fear on his
>>>>> sleeve.
>>>>  
>>>> But seriously, in an advocacy group?  These are far more wild-west
>>>> that than any alt.* group.
>>> 
>>> An argument from incredulity?  I don't believe it.
>>> 
>>> 
>> JHC, are there more logical fallacies than disorders in Snit's DSM?
> 
> If I understand the question, then I'd say no.  (Snit's DSM?  You mean 
> _the_ DSM V?  Or Snit's diagnoses? Or...?)
> 

Snit's DSM:
http://i.imgur.com/zNTAFvL.png

> Old logic faq:
> 
> http://pastebin.com/yLTAMwP4
> 
> Newer faq:
> 
> http://infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html
> 
> 
> There's a lot of them, and that doesn't even identify them all.
> 
> A common place for the argument from incredulity is creationism, where 
> someone refuses to accept that evolution can make sense, no matter how 
> much evidence is given them.  They don't get a sense of the timescales 
> involved, so they don't believe it can happen.
> 

I took a logic class once, and the professor had a rule that if you made
an A on the exam you automatically got an A on the next exam, so I only
had to take the one.  I loved logic.  But that was then, and this is now.

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[Meta] Another modest proposal vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-16 01:41 +0000
  Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-15 21:47 -0400
    Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-16 18:27 -0400
  Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-15 19:03 -0700
  Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-16 02:19 +0000
    Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-16 02:37 +0000
      Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-16 02:42 +0000
        Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-16 02:54 +0000
          Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-16 03:01 +0000
            Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-15 23:05 -0400
              Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-04-15 23:06 -0400
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-15 23:07 -0400
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-04-15 23:18 -0400
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-16 03:15 +0000
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-04-15 23:20 -0400
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-16 03:32 +0000
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Rick Sabian's Allstar Canadian Assworm Zydeco Band <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-04-15 23:28 -0700
              Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Silver Slimer <ahlstrom's_manhood@void.ca> - 2016-04-16 11:05 -0400
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-04-19 21:46 +0000
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-19 17:05 -0700
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-19 20:42 -0400
            Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-16 03:06 +0000
              Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-16 03:12 +0000
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-16 03:32 +0000
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-16 03:41 +0000
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-16 10:33 -0700
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Rick Sabian's Allstar Canadian Assworm Zydeco Band <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-04-15 23:46 -0700
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Rick Sabian's Allstar Canadian Assworm Zydeco Band <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-04-15 23:36 -0700
          Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-15 23:03 -0400
            Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-04-15 23:06 -0400
              Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-15 23:08 -0400
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-04-15 23:19 -0400
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-15 23:24 -0400
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-16 03:43 +0000
            Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal buzzard <buzz@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 23:10 -0400
            Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-16 03:16 +0000
              Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-15 23:23 -0400
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-16 03:48 +0000
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-16 00:04 -0400
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-16 04:15 +0000
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Rick Sabian's Allstar Canadian Assworm Zydeco Band <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-04-15 23:48 -0700
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal buzzard <buzz@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 03:06 -0400
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Rick Sabian's Allstar Canadian Assworm Zydeco Band <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-04-16 00:19 -0700
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal buzzard <buzz@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 03:26 -0400
                Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-16 09:06 -0400
              Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-18 08:14 -0500
          Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-04-16 09:41 +0000
      Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-15 22:48 -0400
  Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> - 2016-04-16 15:35 +1000
    Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-16 15:26 +0000
      Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-16 11:35 -0400
  Re: [Meta] Another modest proposal John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 07:09 -0700

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