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Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit

From	owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit
Date	2015-04-26 04:29 +0000
Organization	ok by me, so long as it doesn't get out of hand
Message-ID	<bbvhu93.fp3w@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/25/15, 8:23 PM, in article nvbhf93.gjjoe@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> ...
>  
>>>>> I sure can't find a single one.
>>>> 
>>>> My challenge has been to show a task that is handled better on desktop Linux
>>>> - pick your distro - better than the competition.
>> 
>>> Maybe free development tools but other than that and highly
>>> specialized applications like super computers, Linux is a huge step
>>> backwards.
>> 
>>> And they know this.
>>> This is the reason they run from challenges like yours.
>>> The herd prefers to spout on and on about how Linux is superior but
>>> they run like hell when asked to back up their claims.
>> 
>> For me, the desktop is one of the major *draws* of Linux (or *BSD).
>> Not for available commercial apps, or for some newfangled way of arranging
>> pretty icons, or whatever the hell MS has on their mind at the moment; but
>> the way the X desktop suits my workflow much better than windows or mack.

> Mack makes trucks... not computers.

> But seriously, I would love to see some of these things desktop Linux does
> so well.

Well, it's not all just about Linux.  I use vi as my editor.  That's
not so much a linux thing as a unix thing, but vi is available for
Win and Mac too, so it's not just Linux.  But it's just always there
under Linux; if it's not there for whatever reason, all hell breaks
loose on the internet and pretty soon it's there again :) But anyway,
vi navigation is fantastic.  And that carries over to my newsreader (tin),
which has similar vi navigation by default, and integrates vi itself
as the newsreader's editor. 

>> I would not want to do without virtual desktops or X copy/paste or the
>> availability of a wide assortment of window managers.

> Why not show the advantage of this as you use it. I use full screen on OS X
> which is tied to virtual desktops.  That integration works well. I do not
> think it exists on any Linux system.

I can full-screen an app and still use ctrl + left/right arrow to switch
virtual desktops, if that's what you mean.

> One thing I do like from many of the Window managers on Linux is the ability
> to have windows "snap" to each other. Wish OS X had that.
>  
>> Seriously, every time I have to go into windows for whatever reason, I
>> feel like I'm wearing leg irons.  What?  I have to paint, right-click,
>> select copy, right-click, select paste?  That SUCKS!  I painted it.

> You can get this ability on OS X... though certainly not what I would want.
> And do not want my middle-click functionality taken over by paste. Yuck. But
> to each their own.

What functionality would be taken over?  I have a crap wheel mouse, since
you can't really find simple 3-button mice any more.  The wheel still works
for scrolling.

>> Obviously I want to do something with it, so buffer it already.

> Again, to each their own, but why put something I want to drag and drop or
> change the font of or otherwise modify in my clipboard? Seems absurd to me.

You don't lose that ability.  The select==copy is just for text.  But you
don't lose the ability to right-click selected text and change its font
or whatever, while still being able to paste the same selected (and
reformatted) text somewhere with a middle click. 

>> So yeah, middle-click paste.

> Taking away my middle-click functionality would be nasty...

Explain.

>> I don't need some super middle wheel with knobby
>> tires and a gyro.  Just a plain old button will do thank you very much.

> Right... to open links in new tabs, for example.

Middle click still works fine for opening links in new tabs, while also
working for pasting when in an input context such as a form field or an
editor window or command line.  Some apps are broken of course, and don't
make use of it, but most seem to work ok.

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Linux 30% slower bullshit DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-24 00:51 -0400
  Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit taka0038@gmail.com - 2015-04-24 01:47 -0700
    Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-04-24 10:41 +0100
    DFS 30% slower bullshit Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-24 06:28 -0400
      Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-04-24 03:41 -0700
        Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-24 13:16 +0200
          Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-04-24 04:22 -0700
            Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-24 13:38 +0200
              Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-24 08:55 -0400
                Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-04-24 06:29 -0700
              Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-04-24 15:01 +0200
              Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-04-24 06:27 -0700
              Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-24 09:35 -0400
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-24 10:11 -0400
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-24 08:53 -0700
            Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-24 09:26 -0400
          Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-24 08:59 -0400
            Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-04-24 06:33 -0700
      Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-24 13:14 +0200
      Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-24 12:29 -0400
        Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-24 12:33 -0400
          Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-24 17:33 -0400
        Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-24 14:53 -0400
        Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-24 21:34 +0000
          Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-28 07:28 -0400
      Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-04-26 18:52 -0500
        Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-27 07:39 -0500
          Re: DFS 30% slower bullshit DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-27 08:46 -0400
    Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-04-24 14:53 +0200
      Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 08:08 -0500
        Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-04-24 15:09 +0200
          Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-04-24 06:35 -0700
          Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-24 11:54 -0600
            Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-24 17:39 -0400
              Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-24 15:50 -0600
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-24 18:18 -0400
            Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-25 09:18 -0400
              Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-25 11:12 -0400
              Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-25 11:54 -0600
  Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit taka0038@gmail.com - 2015-04-24 06:44 -0700
    Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-24 10:07 -0400
      Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-24 07:52 -0700
        Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-04-24 16:58 +0200
        Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-24 11:03 -0400
          Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-04-24 17:14 +0200
            Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit taka0038@gmail.com - 2015-04-24 08:55 -0700
              Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-24 18:07 +0200
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit taka0038@gmail.com - 2015-04-24 09:34 -0700
              Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-24 12:26 -0400
            Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-24 12:11 -0400
        Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-24 12:18 -0400
          Who cares what you have to say, troll. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-24 11:50 -0600
        Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-04-24 17:39 +0100
          Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-24 10:04 -0700
            Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-24 11:50 -0600
              Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-24 23:08 +0000
    Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-24 10:18 -0400
      Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-04-24 17:42 +0100
        Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-24 17:35 -0400
          Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-25 00:00 +0200
            Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-24 15:44 -0700
              Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-24 20:57 -0400
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-24 18:50 -0700
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-25 10:51 -0400
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-25 10:02 -0700
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-25 14:34 -0400
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-25 15:14 -0700
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-25 20:53 -0400
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-25 21:37 -0400
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-25 21:55 -0400
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-25 19:37 -0700
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-25 22:42 -0400
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-25 19:51 -0700
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 03:23 +0000
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-25 20:39 -0700
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 04:29 +0000
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-25 22:55 -0700
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 10:14 -0700
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-26 23:12 -0400
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 03:28 +0000
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-26 00:00 -0400
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-25 21:18 -0700
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 04:48 +0000
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-26 12:39 -0400
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 10:33 -0700
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 11:45 -0700
                Re: Linux 30% slower bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-25 19:39 -0700
  One of the stupidest comments on COLA that Moi has ever seen. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 07:22 -0700

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