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| Date | 2026-06-15 19:58 -0400 |
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| Subject | Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming |
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
| Message-ID | <6a3091ad$3$28$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> (permalink) |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 2026-06-15 6:25 p.m., chrisv wrote: > Alan wrote: > >> And how DOES linux run the Windows versions of games, exactly? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(software) I'll bet that Anal will make claims that it doesn't do as good of a job as Metal does, despite the fact that he's never tried it out. I won't get him out of the filter to find out because I somehow find him even more annoying than Michael Glasser, but here is what Brave Search has to say: "Proton is a compatibility layer developed by Valve that translates Windows DirectX and OpenGL instructions into Vulkan, allowing Windows games to run on Linux with near-native performance because the underlying x86 hardware remains unchanged. Metal is Apple’s proprietary graphics API, and while tools like D3DMetal or DXMT can translate DirectX to Metal for macOS, this approach suffers from significant performance penalties due to the need for x86-to-ARM CPU emulation (via Rosetta) and the translation overhead of Apple’s Tile-Based Deferred Rendering architecture compared to standard immediate-mode rendering. Linux/Proton: Benefits from mature DXVK and VKD3D translation layers, open-source driver support, and native x86 execution, resulting in 95%+ Windows game compatibility and performance often matching or exceeding Windows binaries. macOS/Metal: Lacks a unified, native Steam integration like Proton, relies on less mature translation tools, and incurs heavy CPU and GPU overhead, making it significantly less viable for high-performance 3A gaming compared to Linux." If you're a Windows user who even occasionally plays games and want to emigrate from the operating system, the smarter choice is Linux if you're willing to learn even a little bit about the new operating system. If you can't be bothered, go with the Mac and enjoy the excellent hardware, but you'll soon understand how restrictive the new operating system can be, especially with software signing. -- CrudeSausage M4 MacBook Air
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AMD Taunts Apple’s MacBook Neo Over Gaming Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-15 00:00 +0000
Re: AMD Taunts Apple’s MacBook Neo Over Gaming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-06-15 07:36 -0700
Re: AMD Taunts Apple�s MacBook Neo Over Gaming chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-15 17:25 -0500
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-15 19:58 -0400
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-06-15 17:09 -0700
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 06:08 -0500
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-16 07:15 -0400
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-06-16 08:10 -0700
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 14:25 -0500
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-06-16 16:16 -0700
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-06-16 23:40 +0000
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-17 06:21 -0500
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-17 08:24 -0400
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-06-18 13:44 -0400
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-06-19 07:03 -0400
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-06-20 07:17 +0000
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-06-17 11:40 -0700
And the coward runs! Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-06-17 13:23 -0700
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-17 15:07 -0500
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-06-17 13:14 -0700
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-17 18:04 -0500
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-06-17 16:16 -0700
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 19:48 -0400
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-18 06:35 -0500
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-18 08:42 -0400
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-18 15:33 -0500
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-06-18 09:23 -0700
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-17 20:00 -0400
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-06-17 18:39 -0700
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-18 06:42 -0500
Re: AMD Taunts Apples MacBook Neo Over Gaming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-06-18 09:24 -0700
Re: AMD Taunts Apple’s MacBook Neo Over Gaming "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 12:39 -0400
Re: AMD Taunts Apple’s MacBook Neo Over Gaming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-06-15 12:10 -0700
Re: AMD Taunts Apple’s MacBook Neo Over Gaming "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 15:22 -0400
Re: AMD Taunts Apple’s MacBook Neo Over Gaming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-06-15 15:15 -0700
Re: AMD Taunts Apple’s MacBook Neo Over Gaming "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 18:37 -0400
Re: AMD Taunts Apple’s MacBook Neo Over Gaming Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 13:29 -0400
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else (was: AMD Taunts Apple’sMacBook Neo Over Gaming) Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-06-16 18:57 +0000
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else (was: AMD Taunts Apple’sMacBook Neo Over Gaming) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 14:58 -0500
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-16 16:09 -0400
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-16 16:56 -0500
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-16 18:19 -0400
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-06-16 22:49 +0000
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-06-16 23:42 +0000
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-06-17 00:23 +0000
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-16 22:26 -0400
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-06-17 02:58 +0000
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-17 08:22 -0400
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-06-17 11:42 -0700
Re: AMD Taunts Apple’s MacBook Neo Over Gaming Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-17 02:52 +0000
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-06-17 06:03 +0000
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-06-17 07:32 -0400
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-16 19:55 -0400
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-06-17 00:40 +0000
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-16 22:31 -0400
Re: AMD Taunts Apple’s MacBook Neo Over Gaming Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-17 02:50 +0000
Re: AMD Taunts Apple’s MacBook Neo Over Gaming CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-17 08:12 -0400
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-17 06:35 -0500
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-06-17 08:29 -0400
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else Creon <creon@creon.earth> - 2026-06-20 09:06 +0000
Re: AMD is just as scared as everyone else "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 05:37 -0400
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