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| Started by | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2026-08-27 07:22 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-08-27 23:59 +0100 |
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Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-08-27 07:22 +0000
Re: Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-27 09:34 +0200
Re: Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-27 10:07 +0200
Re: Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-27 10:22 +0200
Re: Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-27 10:40 +0200
Re: Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-08-27 19:34 +0000
Re: Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-08-27 21:24 +0100
Re: Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-27 22:56 +0200
Re: Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-27 22:55 +0200
Re: Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-27 18:47 +0200
Re: Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-31 09:05 -0400
Re: Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-09-02 17:45 +0200
Re: Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-08-27 16:54 -0500
Re: Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 23:59 +0100
| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 07:22 +0000 |
| Subject | Is ASUS the first casualty of the EU battery regs? |
| Message-ID | <116ooip$18uei$1@dont-email.me> |
I am updating my EU battery review from earlier in the year, and I notice that ASUS phones dropped out of the database in May or so. Checking the ASUS website today in a variety of EU countries I see that their phones are either unavailable or quietly dropped. Is anyone local seeing them in shops? I did note in March that their EU battery data was weird (together with OnePlus); their rated battery capacity was less than half (2790 mAh) the capacity of what was reported on their website (5800 mAh). Obviously, this made the battery efficiency look very good compared to competitors. https://rpubs.com/ithinkiam/1415197 Have ASUS decided to pull out of the EU? I can't see any official announcement. And if they have, could it be because of the battery regs?
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 09:34 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <116opb3$16i5a$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #155341 |
On 27.08.26 09:22, Chris wrote: > > I am updating my EU battery review from earlier in the year, and I notice > that ASUS phones dropped out of the database in May or so. > > Checking the ASUS website today in a variety of EU countries I see that > their phones are either unavailable or quietly dropped. Is anyone local > seeing them in shops? > > I did note in March that their EU battery data was weird (together with > OnePlus); their rated battery capacity was less than half (2790 mAh) the > capacity of what was reported on their website (5800 mAh). Obviously, this > made the battery efficiency look very good compared to competitors. > https://rpubs.com/ithinkiam/1415197 > > Have ASUS decided to pull out of the EU? I can't see any official > announcement. And if they have, could it be because of the battery regs? That was already clear in January: https://www.nerdsheaven.de/asus-smartphones-2026/ I hope you understand German. -- "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 10:07 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tr75mmx3pu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #155343 |
On 2026-08-27 09:34, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > On 27.08.26 09:22, Chris wrote: >> >> I am updating my EU battery review from earlier in the year, and I notice >> that ASUS phones dropped out of the database in May or so. >> >> Checking the ASUS website today in a variety of EU countries I see that >> their phones are either unavailable or quietly dropped. Is anyone local >> seeing them in shops? >> >> I did note in March that their EU battery data was weird (together with >> OnePlus); their rated battery capacity was less than half (2790 mAh) the >> capacity of what was reported on their website (5800 mAh). Obviously, this >> made the battery efficiency look very good compared to competitors. >> https://rpubs.com/ithinkiam/1415197 >> >> Have ASUS decided to pull out of the EU? I can't see any official >> announcement. And if they have, could it be because of the battery regs? > > That was already clear in January: > > https://www.nerdsheaven.de/asus-smartphones-2026/ > > I hope you understand German. Haven't you heard of automated translation? Works fine. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 10:22 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <116os3m$16k7d$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #155344 |
On 27.08.26 10:07, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-08-27 09:34, Jörg Lorenz wrote: >> On 27.08.26 09:22, Chris wrote: >>> >>> I am updating my EU battery review from earlier in the year, and I notice >>> that ASUS phones dropped out of the database in May or so. >>> >>> Checking the ASUS website today in a variety of EU countries I see that >>> their phones are either unavailable or quietly dropped. Is anyone local >>> seeing them in shops? >>> >>> I did note in March that their EU battery data was weird (together with >>> OnePlus); their rated battery capacity was less than half (2790 mAh) the >>> capacity of what was reported on their website (5800 mAh). Obviously, this >>> made the battery efficiency look very good compared to competitors. >>> https://rpubs.com/ithinkiam/1415197 >>> >>> Have ASUS decided to pull out of the EU? I can't see any official >>> announcement. And if they have, could it be because of the battery regs? >> >> That was already clear in January: >> >> https://www.nerdsheaven.de/asus-smartphones-2026/ >> >> I hope you understand German. > > Haven't you heard of automated translation? Works fine. You can do that yourself. I do not need it. -- "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 10:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <vo95mmxbv5.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #155345 |
On 2026-08-27 10:22, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > On 27.08.26 10:07, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-08-27 09:34, Jörg Lorenz wrote: >>> On 27.08.26 09:22, Chris wrote: >>>> >>>> I am updating my EU battery review from earlier in the year, and I notice >>>> that ASUS phones dropped out of the database in May or so. >>>> >>>> Checking the ASUS website today in a variety of EU countries I see that >>>> their phones are either unavailable or quietly dropped. Is anyone local >>>> seeing them in shops? >>>> >>>> I did note in March that their EU battery data was weird (together with >>>> OnePlus); their rated battery capacity was less than half (2790 mAh) the >>>> capacity of what was reported on their website (5800 mAh). Obviously, this >>>> made the battery efficiency look very good compared to competitors. >>>> https://rpubs.com/ithinkiam/1415197 >>>> >>>> Have ASUS decided to pull out of the EU? I can't see any official >>>> announcement. And if they have, could it be because of the battery regs? >>> >>> That was already clear in January: >>> >>> https://www.nerdsheaven.de/asus-smartphones-2026/ >>> >>> I hope you understand German. >> >> Haven't you heard of automated translation? Works fine. > > You can do that yourself. I do not need it. I know. But Chris and me do not need to understand German to read that link. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 19:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <116q3gv$1oq0u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #155347 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2026-08-27 10:22, Jörg Lorenz wrote: >> On 27.08.26 10:07, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2026-08-27 09:34, Jörg Lorenz wrote: >>>> On 27.08.26 09:22, Chris wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am updating my EU battery review from earlier in the year, and I notice >>>>> that ASUS phones dropped out of the database in May or so. >>>>> >>>>> Checking the ASUS website today in a variety of EU countries I see that >>>>> their phones are either unavailable or quietly dropped. Is anyone local >>>>> seeing them in shops? >>>>> >>>>> I did note in March that their EU battery data was weird (together with >>>>> OnePlus); their rated battery capacity was less than half (2790 mAh) the >>>>> capacity of what was reported on their website (5800 mAh). Obviously, this >>>>> made the battery efficiency look very good compared to competitors. >>>>> https://rpubs.com/ithinkiam/1415197 >>>>> >>>>> Have ASUS decided to pull out of the EU? I can't see any official >>>>> announcement. And if they have, could it be because of the battery regs? >>>> >>>> That was already clear in January: >>>> >>>> https://www.nerdsheaven.de/asus-smartphones-2026/ >>>> >>>> I hope you understand German. >>> >>> Haven't you heard of automated translation? Works fine. >> >> You can do that yourself. I do not need it. > > I know. But Chris and me do not need to understand German to read that link. > You forget that Joerge's role here is to not be helpful. He could have included a one-sentence summary together with the german link. I did do a search regarding asus mobile phone news and didn't see anything. Given they've chosen to completely remove their models from the EU database makes me think it's more than "temporary" departure from the phone market.
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| From | Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 21:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <37n*aDcPA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #155357 |
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > You forget that Joerge's role here is to not be helpful. He could have > included a one-sentence summary together with the german link. > > I did do a search regarding asus mobile phone news and didn't see anything. > > > Given they've chosen to completely remove their models from the EU database > makes me think it's more than "temporary" departure from the phone market. It's nothing to do with the EU. They are just stopping making phones worldwide, not temporarily: https://www.gsmarena.com/confirmed_asus_is_exiting_the_smartphone_market_-news-71158.php Theo
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 22:56 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <116q895$17aq5$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #155360 |
On 27.08.26 22:24, Theo wrote: > Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >> You forget that Joerge's role here is to not be helpful. He could have >> included a one-sentence summary together with the german link. >> >> I did do a search regarding asus mobile phone news and didn't see anything. >> >> >> Given they've chosen to completely remove their models from the EU database >> makes me think it's more than "temporary" departure from the phone market. > > It's nothing to do with the EU. They are just stopping making phones > worldwide, not temporarily: > https://www.gsmarena.com/confirmed_asus_is_exiting_the_smartphone_market_-news-71158.php +1 -- "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 22:55 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <116q888$17aq5$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #155357 |
On 27.08.26 21:34, Chris wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> >> I know. But Chris and me do not need to understand German to read that link. >> > > You forget that Joerge's role here is to not be helpful. He could have > included a one-sentence summary together with the german link. That shows me that you did not read the article. My summary that everybody knows since January says it all, stupid. -- "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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| From | "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 18:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nfb80pF88gpU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #155344 |
On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 10:07:57 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-08-27 09:34, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > > > That was already clear in January: > > > > https://www.nerdsheaven.de/asus-smartphones-2026/ > > > > I hope you understand German. > Haven't you heard of automated translation? Works fine. I wouldn't say 'fine', but most of the time it suffices. (I didn't even know ASUS made smartphones.) -- s|b
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-31 09:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <o0va9llpttqsedukagh9e41lile0iah6vs@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #155353 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 27 Aug 2026 18:47:31 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 10:07:57 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2026-08-27 09:34, Jörg Lorenz wrote: >> >> > That was already clear in January: >> > >> > https://www.nerdsheaven.de/asus-smartphones-2026/ >> > >> > I hope you understand German. > >> Haven't you heard of automated translation? Works fine. > >I wouldn't say 'fine', but most of the time it suffices. > >(I didn't even know ASUS made smartphones.) Neither did I!
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| From | Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> |
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| Date | 2026-09-02 17:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1179gat$2trnu$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #155421 |
micky, 2026-08-31 15:05: > In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 27 Aug 2026 18:47:31 +0200, "s|b" > <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: > >> On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 10:07:57 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> On 2026-08-27 09:34, Jörg Lorenz wrote: >>> >>>> That was already clear in January: >>>> >>>> https://www.nerdsheaven.de/asus-smartphones-2026/ >>>> >>>> I hope you understand German. >> >>> Haven't you heard of automated translation? Works fine. >> >> I wouldn't say 'fine', but most of the time it suffices. >> >> (I didn't even know ASUS made smartphones.) > > Neither did I! <https://www.asus.com/mobile-handhelds/phones/all-series/> -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 16:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <s93domri77kn$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #155341 |
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > I am updating my EU battery review from earlier in the year, and I notice > that ASUS phones dropped out of the database in May or so. > > Checking the ASUS website today in a variety of EU countries I see that > their phones are either unavailable or quietly dropped. Is anyone local > seeing them in shops? > > I did note in March that their EU battery data was weird (together with > OnePlus); their rated battery capacity was less than half (2790 mAh) the > capacity of what was reported on their website (5800 mAh). Obviously, this > made the battery efficiency look very good compared to competitors. > https://rpubs.com/ithinkiam/1415197 > > Have ASUS decided to pull out of the EU? I can't see any official > announcement. And if they have, could it be because of the battery regs? https://www.techradar.com/pro/asus-will-no-longer-add-new-mobile-phone-models-in-the-future-ceo-confirms-no-more-zenfone-or-rog-smartphones-are-coming-as-it-pivots-to-focus-on-ai-products Published January 23, 2026
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-27 23:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116qffq$1s6cu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #155363 |
On 2026-08-27, VanguardLH wrote:
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am updating my EU battery review from earlier in the year, and I notice
>> that ASUS phones dropped out of the database in May or so.
>>
>> Checking the ASUS website today in a variety of EU countries I see that
>> their phones are either unavailable or quietly dropped. Is anyone local
>> seeing them in shops?
>>
>> I did note in March that their EU battery data was weird (together with
>> OnePlus); their rated battery capacity was less than half (2790 mAh) the
>> capacity of what was reported on their website (5800 mAh). Obviously, this
>> made the battery efficiency look very good compared to competitors.
>> https://rpubs.com/ithinkiam/1415197
>>
>> Have ASUS decided to pull out of the EU? I can't see any official
>> announcement. And if they have, could it be because of the battery regs?
>
> https://www.techradar.com/pro/asus-will-no-longer-add-new-mobile-phone-models-in-the-future-ceo-confirms-no-more-zenfone-or-rog-smartphones-are-coming-as-it-pivots-to-focus-on-ai-products
> Published January 23, 2026
It says:
"'Asus will no longer add new mobile phone models in the future':
CEO confirms no more Zenfone or ROG smartphones are coming as it
pivots to focus on AI products"
But what I'm reading is this:
"'Asus will no longer add new mobile phone models in the future':
CEO confirms no more Zenfone or ROG smartphones are coming as it
pivots to focus on going bankrupt"
To be fair, that article seems to have a similarly unrealistic view of
the market, with comments on "brand visibility" and on some magic need
to design new models just to be on the market, but that's not really
necessary, and of course a manufacturer can opt to build a brand out of
e.g. reliability and durability.
--
Nuno Silva
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