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OT will old phone work

Started bymicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
First post2026-08-06 13:42 -0400
Last post2026-08-09 11:05 +0200
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  OT  will old phone work  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-06 13:42 -0400
    Re: OT will old phone work sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2026-08-06 15:40 -0700
    Re: OT  will old phone work "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-07 16:37 +0200
      Re: OT will old phone work Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:35 +0200
        Re: OT will old phone work micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-07 17:07 -0400
          Re: OT will old phone work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-07 23:20 +0200
            Re: OT will old phone work Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-08 08:50 +0200
              Re: OT will old phone work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-08 09:16 +0200
                Re: OT will old phone work Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-08 11:44 +0200
                  Re: OT will old phone work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-08 14:06 +0200
                    Re: OT will old phone work Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-08 15:00 +0200
                      Re: OT will old phone work Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-08 14:14 +0000
              Re: OT will old phone work Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-08 12:48 +0000
                Re: OT will old phone work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-08 19:17 +0200
              Re: OT will old phone work micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-08 12:54 -0400
                Re: OT will old phone work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-08 19:21 +0200
              Re: OT will old phone work "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-08 19:01 +0200
          Re: OT will old phone work Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-08 08:48 +0200
            Re: OT will old phone work micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-08 13:05 -0400
              Re: OT will old phone work Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-08 22:53 +0200
          Re: OT will old phone work Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-09 01:33 +0100
            Re: OT will old phone work Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-09 11:05 +0200

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#154723 — OT will old phone work

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2026-08-06 13:42 -0400
SubjectOT will old phone work
Message-ID<8mg97l9mba11442qvunqpc1k404ad38cn0@4ax.com>
Is there any reason a phone from 2012 that uses a sim would not
currently work?  To make phone calls and send and receive texts  It's a
Huawei U8652, about the size of a bar of soap, but alsmost as thin as a
current smart phone.   Android 2.3.3
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_fusion_u8652-4656.php

Aha, this coud be a reason: 
    3G bands 	HSDPA 850 / 2100 / 1800
    Speed 	HSPA

I could put my current sim into it and see if it works but to get the
old obsolete sim out I had to remove 6 screws and loosen a full-length
plate. Plus the button for the volume up and down fell out, and I almost
lost it.  I don't want to do this all again if I don't have to. 

(It had a nano sim in a frame, and the hole in the frame had a thin
sheet of vinyl covering it, that pushed it up so that the edge caught on
something so it would not come out  If I iddn't have a epecial verrrry
small phillips screwdriver suitable for smartphones, it would have been
stuck there forever. -------------  Are there not frames that have no
backing but still hold the nano-sim enough to get it in and out, and
that don't get stuck inside? 


I just want to have it as a backup on an upcoming trip, bearing in mind
that on a previous trip, my phone was stolen, and Tuesday I realized the
battery was swelling on my current phone. Oh, yeah, an earlier phone
failed when I was 10 minutes from the airport about to go home from a
foreign trip.   At the airport, to call my friend and say good-bye, I
had stick something in the hole where the on-off button used to be, but
even that stopped working about the time the plane left, So I have good
reason to want a backup**.


**My immediately preceding phone, a full-sized smart phone, Samsung
maybe, I took with me into the spare bedroom, where I thought I would
sleep that night, and use the sim-less phone to read things and as a
clock and alarm clock.  I put it on a box and it slipped off, landing on
the floor I assumed, but I've looked for it 5 times over the last year
and I can't find it. 

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#154739 — Re: OT will old phone work

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2026-08-06 15:40 -0700
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<11532h0$7dn3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154723
On 8/6/2026 10:42 AM, micky wrote:
> Is there any reason a phone from 2012 that uses a sim would not
> currently work?  

It will not work.

-- 
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it 
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not 
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as 
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

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#154751

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-08-07 16:37 +0200
Message-ID<ndm8s7Fq1m9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#154723
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 13:42:39 -0400, micky wrote:

> Is there any reason a phone from 2012 that uses a sim would not
> currently work?  To make phone calls and send and receive texts  It's a
> Huawei U8652, about the size of a bar of soap, but alsmost as thin as a
> current smart phone.   Android 2.3.3
> https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_fusion_u8652-4656.php
> 
> Aha, this coud be a reason: 
>     3G bands 	HSDPA 850 / 2100 / 1800
>     Speed 	HSPA

You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G
was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.

-- 
s|b

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#154762 — Re: OT will old phone work

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2026-08-07 17:35 +0200
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<1154u0m$2h4s$1@solani.org>
In reply to#154751
On 07.08.26 16:37, s|b wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 13:42:39 -0400, micky wrote:
> 
>> Is there any reason a phone from 2012 that uses a sim would not
>> currently work?  To make phone calls and send and receive texts  It's a
>> Huawei U8652, about the size of a bar of soap, but alsmost as thin as a
>> current smart phone.   Android 2.3.3
>> https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_fusion_u8652-4656.php
>>
>> Aha, this coud be a reason: 
>>     3G bands 	HSDPA 850 / 2100 / 1800
>>     Speed 	HSPA
> 
> You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G
> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.

The US are very different ball game with older mobile standards.
The battery will be dead anyway.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#154783 — Re: OT will old phone work

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2026-08-07 17:07 -0400
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<v3ic7ll1s89l14c7v5vj1t5v1lpo7u1034@4ax.com>
In reply to#154762
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 7 Aug 2026 17:35:49 +0200, Jörg Lorenz
<hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

>On 07.08.26 16:37, s|b wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 13:42:39 -0400, micky wrote:
>> 
>>> Is there any reason a phone from 2012 that uses a sim would not
>>> currently work?  To make phone calls and send and receive texts  It's a
>>> Huawei U8652, about the size of a bar of soap, but alsmost as thin as a
>>> current smart phone.   Android 2.3.3
>>> https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_fusion_u8652-4656.php
>>>
>>> Aha, this coud be a reason: 
>>>     3G bands 	HSDPA 850 / 2100 / 1800
>>>     Speed 	HSPA
>> 
>> You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G
>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.

Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3.  3 ended on Dec
31 where I'm going.  I will check about 2 
>
>The US are very different ball game with older mobile standards.
>The battery will be dead anyway.

No, I charged the battery for a couple hours and the parts of the phone
that don't need a sim work fine.   It has about 12 apps. 

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#154785 — Re: OT will old phone work

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-08-07 23:20 +0200
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<kquhkmxhrf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#154783
On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
>>> You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G
>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.
> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3.  3 ended on Dec
> 31 where I'm going.  I will check about 2

Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote 
controllers.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#154791 — Re: OT will old phone work

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2026-08-08 08:50 +0200
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<1156jj0$3mo2$2@solani.org>
In reply to#154785
On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
>>>> You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G
>>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.
>> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3.  3 ended on Dec
>> 31 where I'm going.  I will check about 2
> 
> Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote 
> controllers.

Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
-  mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.


-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#154792 — Re: OT will old phone work

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-08-08 09:16 +0200
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<hn1jkmx3or.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#154791
On 2026-08-08 08:50, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
>>>>> You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G
>>>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.
>>> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3.  3 ended on Dec
>>> 31 where I'm going.  I will check about 2
>>
>> Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote
>> controllers.
> 
> Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
> -  mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.


You still have to go out and replace all the client hardware out there, 
in the millions. Old cars with eCall systems, for instance.



🇩🇪 Germany: 2G is still operating. Deutsche Telekom plans to shut it 
down by June 2028, Vodafone by September 2028, and Telefónica by the end 
of 2028.
🇨🇿 Czech Republic: 2G GSM remains available, with shutdown plans 
around 2028 according to current operator information/community reporting.
🇱🇹 Lithuania: 2G is expected to remain available until at least 2030.

🇵🇱 Poland: some operators are planning to retain 2G into roughly 2030.

🇫🇷 France: the opposite example—Orange is shutting down 2G 
progressively, with nationwide mainland shutdown planned by September 2026.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#154794 — Re: OT will old phone work

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2026-08-08 11:44 +0200
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<1156tqa$3vne$1@solani.org>
In reply to#154792
On 08.08.26 09:16, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-08 08:50, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
>>>>>> You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G
>>>>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.
>>>> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3.  3 ended on Dec
>>>> 31 where I'm going.  I will check about 2
>>>
>>> Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote
>>> controllers.
>>
>> Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
>> -  mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.
> 
> 
> You still have to go out and replace all the client hardware out there,
> in the millions. Old cars with eCall systems, for instance.
> 
> 
> 
> 🇩🇪 Germany: 2G is still operating. Deutsche Telekom plans to shut it
> down by June 2028, Vodafone by September 2028, and Telefónica by the end
> of 2028.
> 🇨🇿 Czech Republic: 2G GSM remains available, with shutdown plans
> around 2028 according to current operator information/community reporting.
> 🇱🇹 Lithuania: 2G is expected to remain available until at least 2030.
> 
> 🇵🇱 Poland: some operators are planning to retain 2G into roughly 2030.
> 
> 🇫🇷 France: the opposite example—Orange is shutting down 2G
> progressively, with nationwide mainland shutdown planned by September 2026.

This is very cheapish and sloppy AI-crap.

Would you mind to present independent evidence?
My BEV has already eCall with 4G.

https://www.bakom.admin.ch/en/3g-and-2g-shutdown

Mistral generates this:

As of August 2026, the status of 2G and 3G networks in Europe is as follows:

3G is being phased out before 2G in most European countries. Many 
operators have already shut down their 3G networks, with around 19 
operators planning to do so by 2025, and more following in the coming 
years. For example, in Germany, Vodafone and Deutsche Telekom shut down 
their 3G networks as early as 2021.

2G is expected to remain operational longer, primarily due to its 
continued use in machine-to-machine (M2M) and IoT applications, such as 
emergency communication systems in elevators and older vehicles. The 
European Commission has even requested that 2G/3G be preserved until at 
least 2030 for eCall in some 64 million vehiclesiot.cards.

France is phasing out 2G by the end of 2026, with Orange, SFR, and 
Bouygues Telecom all planning to discontinue 2G by this time. 3G 
shutdowns in France are expected by 2028 or 2029whereversim.com+3.
Spain is also moving toward shutting down 2G by late 2026 or early 2027, 
with 3G shutdowns planned for 2028–2029whereversim.com+1.
Other countries like Slovakia and Montenegro have already closed or plan 
to close their 2G/3G networks by the end of 2026thingsdata.com.
In summary, while 3G is largely being retired across Europe, 2G is being 
kept alive longer due to its critical role in IoT and legacy systems, 
with many shutdowns planned between 2026 and 2030.

In the Scandinavian countries (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Finland), 
the phase-out of 2G and 3G networks has been particularly rapid:

Sweden: Tele2 and Telia have already switched off both 2G and 3G 
networks between 2024 and 2025.

Finland: The country has been undergoing a progressive shutdown of 2G 
and 3G networks from 2024 to 2026.

Norway and Denmark: These countries are also among the leaders in Europe 
for shutting down legacy networks, with users spending almost no time on 
2G/3G networks. The focus has been on transitioning to 4G and 5G, with 
3G being phased out before 2G in most cases.

In these countries, the transition away from 2G and 3G is largely 
complete or nearing completion, as operators prioritize modernizing 
their networks for 4G and 5G.


-- 
"Ave! Morituri te salutant!"

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#154796 — Re: OT will old phone work

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-08-08 14:06 +0200
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<4nijkmxoej.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#154794
On 2026-08-08 11:44, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 08.08.26 09:16, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-08-08 08:50, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
>>>>>>> You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In 
>>>>>>> Belgium, 3G
>>>>>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last 
>>>>>>> either.
>>>>> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3.  3 ended on Dec
>>>>> 31 where I'm going.  I will check about 2
>>>>
>>>> Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote
>>>> controllers.
>>>
>>> Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
>>> -  mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.
>>
>>
>> You still have to go out and replace all the client hardware out there,
>> in the millions. Old cars with eCall systems, for instance.
>>
>>
>>
>> 🇩🇪 Germany: 2G is still operating. Deutsche Telekom plans to shut it
>> down by June 2028, Vodafone by September 2028, and Telefónica by the end
>> of 2028.
>> 🇨🇿 Czech Republic: 2G GSM remains available, with shutdown plans
>> around 2028 according to current operator information/community 
>> reporting.
>> 🇱🇹 Lithuania: 2G is expected to remain available until at least 2030.
>>
>> 🇵🇱 Poland: some operators are planning to retain 2G into roughly 2030.
>>
>> 🇫🇷 France: the opposite example—Orange is shutting down 2G
>> progressively, with nationwide mainland shutdown planned by September 
>> 2026.
> 
> This is very cheapish and sloppy AI-crap.
> 
> Would you mind to present independent evidence?

You can search for it yourself.

> My BEV has already eCall with 4G.
> 
> https://www.bakom.admin.ch/en/3g-and-2g-shutdown
> 
> Mistral generates this:
> 
> As of August 2026, the status of 2G and 3G networks in Europe is as 
> follows:
> 
> 3G is being phased out before 2G in most European countries. Many 
> operators have already shut down their 3G networks, with around 19 
> operators planning to do so by 2025, and more following in the coming 
> years. For example, in Germany, Vodafone and Deutsche Telekom shut down 
> their 3G networks as early as 2021.
> 
> 2G is expected to remain operational longer, primarily due to its 
> continued use in machine-to-machine (M2M) and IoT applications, such as 
> emergency communication systems in elevators and older vehicles. The 
> European Commission has even requested that 2G/3G be preserved until at 
> least 2030 for eCall in some 64 million vehiclesiot.cards.
> 
> France is phasing out 2G by the end of 2026, with Orange, SFR, and 
> Bouygues Telecom all planning to discontinue 2G by this time. 3G 
> shutdowns in France are expected by 2028 or 2029whereversim.com+3.
> Spain is also moving toward shutting down 2G by late 2026 or early 2027, 
> with 3G shutdowns planned for 2028–2029whereversim.com+1.
> Other countries like Slovakia and Montenegro have already closed or plan 
> to close their 2G/3G networks by the end of 2026thingsdata.com.
> In summary, while 3G is largely being retired across Europe, 2G is being 
> kept alive longer due to its critical role in IoT and legacy systems, 
> with many shutdowns planned between 2026 and 2030.
> 
> In the Scandinavian countries (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Finland), 
> the phase-out of 2G and 3G networks has been particularly rapid:
> 
> Sweden: Tele2 and Telia have already switched off both 2G and 3G 
> networks between 2024 and 2025.
> 
> Finland: The country has been undergoing a progressive shutdown of 2G 
> and 3G networks from 2024 to 2026.
> 
> Norway and Denmark: These countries are also among the leaders in Europe 
> for shutting down legacy networks, with users spending almost no time on 
> 2G/3G networks. The focus has been on transitioning to 4G and 5G, with 
> 3G being phased out before 2G in most cases.
> 
> In these countries, the transition away from 2G and 3G is largely 
> complete or nearing completion, as operators prioritize modernizing 
> their networks for 4G and 5G.
> 
> 

See? The information I posted is correct.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#154799 — Re: OT will old phone work

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2026-08-08 15:00 +0200
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<115799d$4853$1@solani.org>
In reply to#154796
On 08.08.26 14:06, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-08 11:44, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> In these countries, the transition away from 2G and 3G is largely
>> complete or nearing completion, as operators prioritize modernizing
>> their networks for 4G and 5G.
>>
>>
> 
> See? The information I posted is correct.

No. Because it is more than incomplete which makes them fake news. *My* 
claims are correct.


-- 
"Ave! Morituri te salutant!"

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#154800 — Re: OT will old phone work

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2026-08-08 14:14 +0000
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<1157kkm.1dvs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#154799
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 08.08.26 14:06, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> > On 2026-08-08 11:44, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> >> In these countries, the transition away from 2G and 3G is largely
> >> complete or nearing completion, as operators prioritize modernizing
> >> their networks for 4G and 5G.
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > See? The information I posted is correct.
> 
> No. Because it is more than incomplete which makes them fake news. *My* 
> claims are correct.

  <barf!>

  Carlos' examples are not "more than incomplete", they are examples.

  As to "*My* claims are correct":

  Your intial claim was:

"Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
 -  mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago."

  Your subsequent Mistral-generated material debunks your own claim. And
now you're backpedaling and trying to rewrite history. Not that that is
anything unusual, but still.

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#154797 — Re: OT will old phone work

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2026-08-08 12:48 +0000
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<1157fjj.1at0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#154791
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> > On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
> >>>> You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G
> >>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.
> >> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3.  3 ended on Dec
> >> 31 where I'm going.  I will check about 2
> > 
> > Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote 
> > controllers.
> 
> Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
> -  mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.

  Switzerland != "Most European countries"

  AFAIK, it isn't 2033 yet, but I could be wrong.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2G#Phase-out>

  In this list, Switzerland is about the only European country which
*is* completely shut down!

  As usual, so much for your 'facts'!

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#154810 — Re: OT will old phone work

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-08-08 19:17 +0200
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<pt4kkmx335.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#154797
On 2026-08-08 14:48, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>> On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
>>>>>> You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G
>>>>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.
>>>> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3.  3 ended on Dec
>>>> 31 where I'm going.  I will check about 2
>>>
>>> Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote
>>> controllers.
>>
>> Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
>> -  mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.
> 
>    Switzerland != "Most European countries"
> 
>    AFAIK, it isn't 2033 yet, but I could be wrong.
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2G#Phase-out>
> 
>    In this list, Switzerland is about the only European country which
> *is* completely shut down!

LOL! They tend to do this.

> 
>    As usual, so much for your 'facts'!


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#154805 — Re: OT will old phone work

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2026-08-08 12:54 -0400
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<gfne7l5rk5d2tbdsuaqggl2itijvf0oke5@4ax.com>
In reply to#154791
In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 8 Aug 2026 08:50:08 +0200, Jörg Lorenz
<hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

>On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
>>>>> You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G
>>>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.
>>> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3.  3 ended on Dec
>>> 31 where I'm going.  I will check about 2

I checked.  No more 2 where I'm going.  I will buy another phone and
manage without a backup phone. 

>> Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote 
>> controllers.
>
>Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
>-  mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.

If you yourself can only manage to say "most", than clearly, Carlos's
sentence is not nonsense.   It's truly amazing that you don't get that. 

Later you post:  
> In these countries, the transition away from 2G and 3G is largely 
> complete or nearing completion, as operators prioritize modernizing 
> their networks for 4G and 5G.

Largely or nearing.   So you yourself have affirmed that 2G is still
active, as Carlos said.  I appreciate that. 

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#154811 — Re: OT will old phone work

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-08-08 19:21 +0200
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<155kkmx335.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#154805
On 2026-08-08 18:54, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 8 Aug 2026 08:50:08 +0200, Jörg Lorenz
> <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
>>>>>> You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G
>>>>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.
>>>> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3.  3 ended on Dec
>>>> 31 where I'm going.  I will check about 2
> 
> I checked.  No more 2 where I'm going.  I will buy another phone and
> manage without a backup phone.

Maybe you can buy a cheap second phone. The cheapest you can find that 
works for you.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#154806 — Re: OT will old phone work

From"s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
Date2026-08-08 19:01 +0200
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<ndp5n5F9hbuU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#154791
On Sat, 8 Aug 2026 08:50:08 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

8< snip - 2G >8
> > Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote 
> > controllers.

This.
 
> Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
> -  mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.

Not in Belgium. Not yet. We're still busy installing 5G.

-- 
s|b

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#154790 — Re: OT will old phone work

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2026-08-08 08:48 +0200
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<1156jfb$3mo2$1@solani.org>
In reply to#154783
On 07.08.26 23:07, micky wrote:
> No, I charged the battery for a couple hours and the parts of the phone
> that don't need a sim work fine.   It has about 12 apps. 

How long does it last?


-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#154807 — Re: OT will old phone work

Frommicky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
Date2026-08-08 13:05 -0400
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<m4oe7lt8dft1ie14jkhk3us7fr9cs0c95j@4ax.com>
In reply to#154790
In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 8 Aug 2026 08:48:11 +0200, Jörg Lorenz
<hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

>On 07.08.26 23:07, micky wrote:
>> No, I charged the battery for a couple hours and the parts of the phone
>> that don't need a sim work fine.   It has about 12 apps. 
>
>How long does it last?

Well I started it just now, 2 days after I charged it, no charging since
then, and it started right up, and the battery indicator shows full. 

I'm not going to leave it on for days just to prove it works and you're
wrong. 

I didn't see the whole list earlier.  It has 48 apps, including the
PlayStore. 

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#154823 — Re: OT will old phone work

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2026-08-08 22:53 +0200
SubjectRe: OT will old phone work
Message-ID<1158514$4s2c$1@solani.org>
In reply to#154807
On 08.08.26 19:05, micky wrote:
> I'm not going to leave it on for days just to prove it works and you're
> wrong. 

I can easily live with it, dear.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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