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On 08.08.26 09:16, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-08 08:50, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
>>>>>> You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G
>>>>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.
>>>> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3.  3 ended on Dec
>>>> 31 where I'm going.  I will check about 2
>>>
>>> Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote
>>> controllers.
>>
>> Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
>> -  mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.
> 
> 
> You still have to go out and replace all the client hardware out there,
> in the millions. Old cars with eCall systems, for instance.
> 
> 
> 
> 🇩🇪 Germany: 2G is still operating. Deutsche Telekom plans to shut it
> down by June 2028, Vodafone by September 2028, and Telefónica by the end
> of 2028.
> 🇨🇿 Czech Republic: 2G GSM remains available, with shutdown plans
> around 2028 according to current operator information/community reporting.
> 🇱🇹 Lithuania: 2G is expected to remain available until at least 2030.
> 
> 🇵🇱 Poland: some operators are planning to retain 2G into roughly 2030.
> 
> 🇫🇷 France: the opposite example—Orange is shutting down 2G
> progressively, with nationwide mainland shutdown planned by September 2026.

This is very cheapish and sloppy AI-crap.

Would you mind to present independent evidence?
My BEV has already eCall with 4G.

https://www.bakom.admin.ch/en/3g-and-2g-shutdown

Mistral generates this:

As of August 2026, the status of 2G and 3G networks in Europe is as follows:

3G is being phased out before 2G in most European countries. Many 
operators have already shut down their 3G networks, with around 19 
operators planning to do so by 2025, and more following in the coming 
years. For example, in Germany, Vodafone and Deutsche Telekom shut down 
their 3G networks as early as 2021.

2G is expected to remain operational longer, primarily due to its 
continued use in machine-to-machine (M2M) and IoT applications, such as 
emergency communication systems in elevators and older vehicles. The 
European Commission has even requested that 2G/3G be preserved until at 
least 2030 for eCall in some 64 million vehiclesiot.cards.

France is phasing out 2G by the end of 2026, with Orange, SFR, and 
Bouygues Telecom all planning to discontinue 2G by this time. 3G 
shutdowns in France are expected by 2028 or 2029whereversim.com+3.
Spain is also moving toward shutting down 2G by late 2026 or early 2027, 
with 3G shutdowns planned for 2028–2029whereversim.com+1.
Other countries like Slovakia and Montenegro have already closed or plan 
to close their 2G/3G networks by the end of 2026thingsdata.com.
In summary, while 3G is largely being retired across Europe, 2G is being 
kept alive longer due to its critical role in IoT and legacy systems, 
with many shutdowns planned between 2026 and 2030.

In the Scandinavian countries (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Finland), 
the phase-out of 2G and 3G networks has been particularly rapid:

Sweden: Tele2 and Telia have already switched off both 2G and 3G 
networks between 2024 and 2025.

Finland: The country has been undergoing a progressive shutdown of 2G 
and 3G networks from 2024 to 2026.

Norway and Denmark: These countries are also among the leaders in Europe 
for shutting down legacy networks, with users spending almost no time on 
2G/3G networks. The focus has been on transitioning to 4G and 5G, with 
3G being phased out before 2G in most cases.

In these countries, the transition away from 2G and 3G is largely 
complete or nearing completion, as operators prioritize modernizing 
their networks for 4G and 5G.


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OT  will old phone work  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-06 13:42 -0400
  Re: OT will old phone work sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2026-08-06 15:40 -0700
  Re: OT  will old phone work "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-07 16:37 +0200
    Re: OT will old phone work Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-07 17:35 +0200
      Re: OT will old phone work micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-07 17:07 -0400
        Re: OT will old phone work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-07 23:20 +0200
          Re: OT will old phone work Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-08 08:50 +0200
            Re: OT will old phone work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-08 09:16 +0200
              Re: OT will old phone work Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-08 11:44 +0200
                Re: OT will old phone work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-08 14:06 +0200
                Re: OT will old phone work Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-08 15:00 +0200
                Re: OT will old phone work Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-08 14:14 +0000
            Re: OT will old phone work Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-08 12:48 +0000
              Re: OT will old phone work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-08 19:17 +0200
            Re: OT will old phone work micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-08 12:54 -0400
              Re: OT will old phone work "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-08 19:21 +0200
            Re: OT will old phone work "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-08-08 19:01 +0200
        Re: OT will old phone work Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-08 08:48 +0200
          Re: OT will old phone work micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-08 13:05 -0400
            Re: OT will old phone work Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-08-08 22:53 +0200
        Re: OT will old phone work Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-09 01:33 +0100
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