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| First post | 2024-12-29 03:32 +0000 |
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EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-29 03:32 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:43 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2024-12-29 10:05 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2024-12-29 11:32 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Harry S Robins <stanleyrobins@nothere.uk> - 2024-12-29 09:24 -0600
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:12 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:12 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2024-12-29 09:40 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2024-12-29 11:24 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2024-12-29 12:24 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Nick Cine <nickcine@is.invalid> - 2024-12-29 08:31 -0700
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 16:50 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-29 17:46 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:04 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 18:27 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:38 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 02:42 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 18:45 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-29 22:37 -0500
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 19:40 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 16:44 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2024-12-30 15:56 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 19:11 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:23 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 23:17 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-31 00:58 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:42 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:17 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:36 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:18 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:15 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 23:00 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-12-31 22:25 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-01 00:16 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 08:47 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2024-12-30 19:25 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:49 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-31 01:05 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 22:34 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2024-12-31 07:04 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 23:05 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:22 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 04:50 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 20:58 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-12-30 18:03 +1300
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 05:06 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 22:36 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2024-12-30 10:26 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Nick Charles - 2024-12-30 17:41 -0500
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-31 01:11 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:20 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 19:33 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:51 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 15:24 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:19 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:14 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:13 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 18:21 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-29 10:46 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:25 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-30 12:07 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-30 12:32 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 19:17 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:24 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2024-12-30 14:39 -0500
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:48 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-31 01:17 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-31 16:03 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 01:20 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-30 06:21 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-12-29 09:00 -0500
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> - 2024-12-29 16:18 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-12-29 12:25 -0500
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-29 17:39 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:03 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:02 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-12-31 08:39 -0500
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 15:58 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-31 10:01 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 21:41 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2025-01-01 00:18 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:20 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 18:21 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 02:50 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 18:53 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 16:36 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 12:10 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:26 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2024-12-31 14:42 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:28 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2024-12-31 17:00 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 19:00 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:15 +0100
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:19 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 21:47 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 22:22 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 01:36 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 01:41 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 16:32 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-01-02 00:18 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Ken <ken@birchanger.com> - 2025-01-02 09:53 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-01-02 10:34 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Ken <ken@birchanger.com> - 2025-01-04 11:18 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 21:43 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 14:45 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 15:37 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 01:47 +0000
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-31 22:55 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-01 12:56 -0800
Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-29 10:48 -0800
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 16:44 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bnra4lxk7p.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #145831 |
On 2024-12-30 04:40, Alan wrote: > On 2024-12-29 19:37, knuttle wrote: >> On 12/29/2024 9:45 PM, Alan wrote: >>> On 2024-12-29 18:42, Andrew wrote: >>>> Chris wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:27:04 -0000 (UTC) : ... >>> >> Please explain how to get an apple to work with a PC. Especially how >> do you get pictures from you Apple phone to your Windows 10 PC > > 'Import to your Windows PC > > You can import photos to your PC by connecting your device to your > computer and using the Apple Devices app: > > Install the Apple Devices app from the Microsoft Store. > Connect your iPhone or iPad to your PC with a USB cable. > If asked, unlock your iOS or iPadOS device using your passcode. > If you see a prompt on your iOS or iPadOS device asking you to Trust > This Computer, tap Trust or Allow to continue.' > > <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120267> > > Done! How about Linux? Just curious. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 15:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <34s*Wcl3z@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #145852 |
In comp.mobile.android Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2024-12-30 04:40, Alan wrote: > > On 2024-12-29 19:37, knuttle wrote: > >> On 12/29/2024 9:45 PM, Alan wrote: > >>> On 2024-12-29 18:42, Andrew wrote: > >>>> Chris wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:27:04 -0000 (UTC) : > > ... > > >>> > >> Please explain how to get an apple to work with a PC. Especially how > >> do you get pictures from you Apple phone to your Windows 10 PC > > > > 'Import to your Windows PC [...] > > > > Done! > > How about Linux? Just curious. https://libimobiledevice.org/ which is used by various file managers (Dolphin, Nautilus, etc), or ifuse makes it available as a FUSE filesystem that can be accessed from anywhere. (it's possible native MTP works for photo access without a driver - I've not tried that) Theo
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| From | Andrew <andys@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 19:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vkur8v$1bb1$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #145853 |
Theo wrote on 30 Dec 2024 15:56:51 +0000 (GMT) : >> How about Linux? Just curious. > > https://libimobiledevice.org/ > which is used by various file managers (Dolphin, Nautilus, etc), or ifuse > makes it available as a FUSE filesystem that can be accessed from anywhere. 1. Copying photos from iOS to Windows is easy 2. Going the other way is not Apple murdered interoperability. While it's trivial to copy an iOS DCIM image or video from the iOS device, one way only, to the Windows device, where Linux excels is two way file transfer of not only photos, but almost anything on the iOS device. You have to know a few tricks though - but once you know them - it works. <https://i.postimg.cc/s2x0f9Js/files14.jpg> Simultaneous Linux, win & iOS <https://i.postimg.cc/g269S8rT/files13.jpg> It's easy if you know how <https://i.postimg.cc/pVJf72fN/files12.jpg> iOS hacks very often will fail <https://i.postimg.cc/cChf8mx1/files11.jpg> idiot iOS hacks just to copy <https://i.postimg.cc/9MGdc2s7/files10.jpg> Android is 2-way fast over USB <https://i.postimg.cc/mDx3xkp4/files09.jpg> iOS only DCIM & only 1-way <https://i.postimg.cc/3xcCBngd/files08.jpg> iOS is just a dumb brick <https://i.postimg.cc/KjK4nHwf/files07.jpg> Ubuntu is two-way, everything <https://i.postimg.cc/Jhmy9KH7/files06.jpg> Ubuntu uses iFuse for magic <https://i.postimg.cc/qqg61Rh8/files05.jpg> Ubuntu, movies _to_ iOS on USB <https://i.postimg.cc/QMk7tvZW/files04.jpg> Ubuntu is two way, everything <https://i.postimg.cc/d3SGkdgr/files03.jpg> Android is two way, everything <https://i.postimg.cc/L8b18Zmx/files02.jpg> iOS "Files" is not useful <https://i.postimg.cc/NFkXsJ0X/files01.jpg> iOS/Win is 1-way & DCIM only > (it's possible native MTP works for photo access without a driver - I've not > tried that) A driver is automatically installed on Windows when you plug in an iOS device over USB - but without adding bloatware, you can't copy TO the iOS device. Worse, the bloatware requires the Apple ID of every device you wish to connect to - and each and ever iOS users' password too. Fancy that. Nothing works in the walled garden when it comes to the real world. By way of contrast, you can connect any Android device to any Windows PC to then copy bidirectionally to almost anywhere on that Android device.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 11:23 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vkus0e$1p0i4$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #145874 |
On 2024-12-30 11:11, Andrew wrote: > Theo wrote on 30 Dec 2024 15:56:51 +0000 (GMT) : > >>> How about Linux? Just curious. >> >> https://libimobiledevice.org/ >> which is used by various file managers (Dolphin, Nautilus, etc), or ifuse >> makes it available as a FUSE filesystem that can be accessed from >> anywhere. > > 1. Copying photos from iOS to Windows is easy > 2. Going the other way is not False. You not knowing how to do something doesn't make it difficult.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 23:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bpib4lxcj1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #145853 |
On 2024-12-30 16:56, Theo wrote: > In comp.mobile.android Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> On 2024-12-30 04:40, Alan wrote: >>> On 2024-12-29 19:37, knuttle wrote: >>>> On 12/29/2024 9:45 PM, Alan wrote: >>>>> On 2024-12-29 18:42, Andrew wrote: >>>>>> Chris wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:27:04 -0000 (UTC) : >> >> ... >> >>>>> >>>> Please explain how to get an apple to work with a PC. Especially how >>>> do you get pictures from you Apple phone to your Windows 10 PC >>> >>> 'Import to your Windows PC > [...] >>> >>> Done! >> >> How about Linux? Just curious. > > https://libimobiledevice.org/ > which is used by various file managers (Dolphin, Nautilus, etc), or ifuse > makes it available as a FUSE filesystem that can be accessed from anywhere. > > (it's possible native MTP works for photo access without a driver - I've not > tried that) MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) as present in Android, works perfectly in Linux, on several file browsers. I don't have an iPhone nor my friends, so I haven't tried there. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Andrew <andys@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 00:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vkvfkj$rpd$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #145896 |
Carlos E.R. wrote on Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:17:47 +0100 : >> (it's possible native MTP works for photo access without a driver - I've not >> tried that) > > MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) as present in Android, works perfectly in > Linux, on several file browsers. I don't have an iPhone nor my friends, > so I haven't tried there. iFuse on Linux is what does all the read/write magic of turning the entire iOS device into, essentially, a dumb USB stick. I wish iFuse were ported to Windows; but it's not. Dunno why though. Would love to know why if someone here knows more than I.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 11:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vl0orq.r4o.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #145896 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2024-12-30 16:56, Theo wrote:
> > In comp.mobile.android Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 2024-12-30 04:40, Alan wrote:
> >>> On 2024-12-29 19:37, knuttle wrote:
> >>>> On 12/29/2024 9:45 PM, Alan wrote:
> >>>>> On 2024-12-29 18:42, Andrew wrote:
> >>>>>> Chris wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:27:04 -0000 (UTC) :
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Please explain how to get an apple to work with a PC. Especially how
> >>>> do you get pictures from you Apple phone to your Windows 10 PC
> >>>
> >>> 'Import to your Windows PC
> > [...]
> >>>
> >>> Done!
> >>
> >> How about Linux? Just curious.
> >
> > https://libimobiledevice.org/
> > which is used by various file managers (Dolphin, Nautilus, etc), or ifuse
> > makes it available as a FUSE filesystem that can be accessed from anywhere.
> >
> > (it's possible native MTP works for photo access without a driver - I've not
> > tried that)
>
> MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) as present in Android, works perfectly in
> Linux, on several file browsers. I don't have an iPhone nor my friends,
> so I haven't tried there.
AFAIK, the easiest method with iPhone/iPad devices is to use PTP
(Picture Transfer Protocol), not MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) to access
the photo storage of the device, i.e. what is DCIM\Camera on Android. On
Windows, that will show the device as a camera, not a phone. If Linux
can - automatically - use PTP, then that should also work on Linux.
Note however that the PTP protocol is only for pictures ('photos'), so
videos are probably not accessible.
BTW, AFAIK, iOS does not support/offer MTP. If it did, there would be
no problem to connect an iPhone/iPad to Windows and all this iTunes c.q.
Apple Devices app hoopla would be unneeded for a simple USB connection.
would be unneeded.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 15:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <h0bd4lxg3t.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #145922 |
On 2024-12-31 12:42, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2024-12-30 16:56, Theo wrote:
>>> In comp.mobile.android Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-12-30 04:40, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-12-29 19:37, knuttle wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/29/2024 9:45 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 18:42, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>> Chris wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:27:04 -0000 (UTC) :
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please explain how to get an apple to work with a PC. Especially how
>>>>>> do you get pictures from you Apple phone to your Windows 10 PC
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Import to your Windows PC
>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Done!
>>>>
>>>> How about Linux? Just curious.
>>>
>>> https://libimobiledevice.org/
>>> which is used by various file managers (Dolphin, Nautilus, etc), or ifuse
>>> makes it available as a FUSE filesystem that can be accessed from anywhere.
>>>
>>> (it's possible native MTP works for photo access without a driver - I've not
>>> tried that)
>>
>> MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) as present in Android, works perfectly in
>> Linux, on several file browsers. I don't have an iPhone nor my friends,
>> so I haven't tried there.
>
> AFAIK, the easiest method with iPhone/iPad devices is to use PTP
> (Picture Transfer Protocol), not MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) to access
> the photo storage of the device, i.e. what is DCIM\Camera on Android. On
> Windows, that will show the device as a camera, not a phone. If Linux
> can - automatically - use PTP, then that should also work on Linux.
AFAIK, Linux uses PTP if the phone (Android) decides to activate only PTP.
>
> Note however that the PTP protocol is only for pictures ('photos'), so
> videos are probably not accessible.
>
> BTW, AFAIK, iOS does not support/offer MTP. If it did, there would be
> no problem to connect an iPhone/iPad to Windows and all this iTunes c.q.
> Apple Devices app hoopla would be unneeded for a simple USB connection.
> would be unneeded.
Ah.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-31 15:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vl16i2.ou4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #145935 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2024-12-31 12:42, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 2024-12-30 16:56, Theo wrote:
> >>> In comp.mobile.android Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> >>>> On 2024-12-30 04:40, Alan wrote:
> >>>>> On 2024-12-29 19:37, knuttle wrote:
> >>>>>> On 12/29/2024 9:45 PM, Alan wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 18:42, Andrew wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Chris wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:27:04 -0000 (UTC) :
> >>>>
> >>>> ...
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please explain how to get an apple to work with a PC.
> >>>>>> Especially how do you get pictures from you Apple phone to your
> >>>>>> Windows 10 PC
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 'Import to your Windows PC
> >>> [...]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Done!
> >>>>
> >>>> How about Linux? Just curious.
> >>>
> >>> https://libimobiledevice.org/
> >>> which is used by various file managers (Dolphin, Nautilus, etc),
> >>> or ifuse makes it available as a FUSE filesystem that can be
> >>> accessed from anywhere.
> >>>
> >>> (it's possible native MTP works for photo access without a driver
> >>> - I've not tried that)
> >>
> >> MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) as present in Android, works
> >> perfectly in Linux, on several file browsers. I don't have an
> >> iPhone nor my friends, so I haven't tried there.
> >
> > AFAIK, the easiest method with iPhone/iPad devices is to use PTP
> > (Picture Transfer Protocol), not MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) to
> > access the photo storage of the device, i.e. what is DCIM\Camera on
> > Android. On Windows, that will show the device as a camera, not a
> > phone. If Linux can - automatically - use PTP, then that should also
> > work on Linux.
>
> AFAIK, Linux uses PTP if the phone (Android) decides to activate only
> PTP.
That means that you *could* test if an iPhone is likely to work in
PTP mode: Just connect your Android phone to your Linux system and in
the 'USB settings' of the phone select 'Transferring images' (is PTP
mode) instead of 'Transferring files / Auto Auto' (is MTP mode).
If your Linux system can then access the photos in DCIM\Camera of the
phone, it's likely that it can also can access an iPhone as a camera.
> > Note however that the PTP protocol is only for pictures
> > ('photos'), so videos are probably not accessible.
> >
> > BTW, AFAIK, iOS does not support/offer MTP. If it did, there
> > would be no problem to connect an iPhone/iPad to Windows and all
> > this iTunes c.q. Apple Devices app hoopla would be unneeded for a
> > simple USB connection. would be unneeded.
>
> Ah.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-31 20:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bksd4lxvh1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #145941 |
On 2024-12-31 16:36, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> On 2024-12-31 12:42, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 2024-12-30 16:56, Theo wrote: >>>>> In comp.mobile.android Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> On 2024-12-30 04:40, Alan wrote: >>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 19:37, knuttle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/29/2024 9:45 PM, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 18:42, Andrew wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:27:04 -0000 (UTC) : >>>>>> >>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please explain how to get an apple to work with a PC. >>>>>>>> Especially how do you get pictures from you Apple phone to your >>>>>>>> Windows 10 PC >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Import to your Windows PC >>>>> [...] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Done! >>>>>> >>>>>> How about Linux? Just curious. >>>>> >>>>> https://libimobiledevice.org/ >>>>> which is used by various file managers (Dolphin, Nautilus, etc), >>>>> or ifuse makes it available as a FUSE filesystem that can be >>>>> accessed from anywhere. >>>>> >>>>> (it's possible native MTP works for photo access without a driver >>>>> - I've not tried that) >>>> >>>> MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) as present in Android, works >>>> perfectly in Linux, on several file browsers. I don't have an >>>> iPhone nor my friends, so I haven't tried there. >>> >>> AFAIK, the easiest method with iPhone/iPad devices is to use PTP >>> (Picture Transfer Protocol), not MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) to >>> access the photo storage of the device, i.e. what is DCIM\Camera on >>> Android. On Windows, that will show the device as a camera, not a >>> phone. If Linux can - automatically - use PTP, then that should also >>> work on Linux. >> >> AFAIK, Linux uses PTP if the phone (Android) decides to activate only >> PTP. > > That means that you *could* test if an iPhone is likely to work in > PTP mode: Just connect your Android phone to your Linux system and in > the 'USB settings' of the phone select 'Transferring images' (is PTP > mode) instead of 'Transferring files / Auto Auto' (is MTP mode). Oh, yes, my Android phone certainly works in this mode, but I almost never do. ... -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-31 21:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vl1qcr.7ro.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #145949 |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2024-12-31 16:36, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2024-12-31 12:42, Frank Slootweg wrote: > >>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >>>> On 2024-12-30 16:56, Theo wrote: > >>>>> In comp.mobile.android Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >>>>>> On 2024-12-30 04:40, Alan wrote: > >>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 19:37, knuttle wrote: > >>>>>>>> On 12/29/2024 9:45 PM, Alan wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 18:42, Andrew wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:27:04 -0000 (UTC) : > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ... > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Please explain how to get an apple to work with a PC. > >>>>>>>> Especially how do you get pictures from you Apple phone to your > >>>>>>>> Windows 10 PC > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 'Import to your Windows PC > >>>>> [...] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Done! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> How about Linux? Just curious. > >>>>> > >>>>> https://libimobiledevice.org/ > >>>>> which is used by various file managers (Dolphin, Nautilus, etc), > >>>>> or ifuse makes it available as a FUSE filesystem that can be > >>>>> accessed from anywhere. > >>>>> > >>>>> (it's possible native MTP works for photo access without a driver > >>>>> - I've not tried that) > >>>> > >>>> MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) as present in Android, works > >>>> perfectly in Linux, on several file browsers. I don't have an > >>>> iPhone nor my friends, so I haven't tried there. > >>> > >>> AFAIK, the easiest method with iPhone/iPad devices is to use PTP > >>> (Picture Transfer Protocol), not MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) to > >>> access the photo storage of the device, i.e. what is DCIM\Camera on > >>> Android. On Windows, that will show the device as a camera, not a > >>> phone. If Linux can - automatically - use PTP, then that should also > >>> work on Linux. > >> > >> AFAIK, Linux uses PTP if the phone (Android) decides to activate only > >> PTP. > > > > That means that you *could* test if an iPhone is likely to work in > > PTP mode: Just connect your Android phone to your Linux system and in > > the 'USB settings' of the phone select 'Transferring images' (is PTP > > mode) instead of 'Transferring files / Auto Auto' (is MTP mode). > > Oh, yes, my Android phone certainly works in this mode, but I almost > never do. Of course you don't use it in that mode, I don't either. It's just a *test* to determine if an *iPhone* is likely to work in the same way. From your positive test result, it's likely that an iPhone will work as well.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-31 23:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <356e4lxn89.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #145951 |
On 2024-12-31 22:15, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> On 2024-12-31 16:36, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 2024-12-31 12:42, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> On 2024-12-30 16:56, Theo wrote: >>>>>>> In comp.mobile.android Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2024-12-30 04:40, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 19:37, knuttle wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 12/29/2024 9:45 PM, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 18:42, Andrew wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:27:04 -0000 (UTC) : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please explain how to get an apple to work with a PC. >>>>>>>>>> Especially how do you get pictures from you Apple phone to your >>>>>>>>>> Windows 10 PC >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 'Import to your Windows PC >>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Done! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How about Linux? Just curious. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://libimobiledevice.org/ >>>>>>> which is used by various file managers (Dolphin, Nautilus, etc), >>>>>>> or ifuse makes it available as a FUSE filesystem that can be >>>>>>> accessed from anywhere. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (it's possible native MTP works for photo access without a driver >>>>>>> - I've not tried that) >>>>>> >>>>>> MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) as present in Android, works >>>>>> perfectly in Linux, on several file browsers. I don't have an >>>>>> iPhone nor my friends, so I haven't tried there. >>>>> >>>>> AFAIK, the easiest method with iPhone/iPad devices is to use PTP >>>>> (Picture Transfer Protocol), not MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) to >>>>> access the photo storage of the device, i.e. what is DCIM\Camera on >>>>> Android. On Windows, that will show the device as a camera, not a >>>>> phone. If Linux can - automatically - use PTP, then that should also >>>>> work on Linux. >>>> >>>> AFAIK, Linux uses PTP if the phone (Android) decides to activate only >>>> PTP. >>> >>> That means that you *could* test if an iPhone is likely to work in >>> PTP mode: Just connect your Android phone to your Linux system and in >>> the 'USB settings' of the phone select 'Transferring images' (is PTP >>> mode) instead of 'Transferring files / Auto Auto' (is MTP mode). >> >> Oh, yes, my Android phone certainly works in this mode, but I almost >> never do. > > Of course you don't use it in that mode, I don't either. It's just a > *test* to determine if an *iPhone* is likely to work in the same way. > From your positive test result, it's likely that an iPhone will work as > well. I just by chance tried it minutes ago, and of course it worked. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-31 22:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vl1r0o$2dvd7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #145956 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message: > On 2024-12-31 22:15, Frank Slootweg wrote: >> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> On 2024-12-31 16:36, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>> On 2024-12-31 12:42, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2024-12-30 16:56, Theo wrote: >>>>>>>> In comp.mobile.android Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-30 04:40, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 19:37, knuttle wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 12/29/2024 9:45 PM, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 18:42, Andrew wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:27:04 -0000 (UTC) : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please explain how to get an apple to work with a PC. >>>>>>>>>>> Especially how do you get pictures from you Apple phone to your >>>>>>>>>>> Windows 10 PC >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 'Import to your Windows PC >>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Done! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How about Linux? Just curious. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://libimobiledevice.org/ >>>>>>>> which is used by various file managers (Dolphin, Nautilus, etc), >>>>>>>> or ifuse makes it available as a FUSE filesystem that can be >>>>>>>> accessed from anywhere. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (it's possible native MTP works for photo access without a driver >>>>>>>> - I've not tried that) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) as present in Android, works >>>>>>> perfectly in Linux, on several file browsers. I don't have an >>>>>>> iPhone nor my friends, so I haven't tried there. >>>>>> >>>>>> AFAIK, the easiest method with iPhone/iPad devices is to use PTP >>>>>> (Picture Transfer Protocol), not MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) to >>>>>> access the photo storage of the device, i.e. what is DCIM\Camera on >>>>>> Android. On Windows, that will show the device as a camera, not a >>>>>> phone. If Linux can - automatically - use PTP, then that should also >>>>>> work on Linux. >>>>> >>>>> AFAIK, Linux uses PTP if the phone (Android) decides to activate only >>>>> PTP. >>>> >>>> That means that you *could* test if an iPhone is likely to work in >>>> PTP mode: Just connect your Android phone to your Linux system and in >>>> the 'USB settings' of the phone select 'Transferring images' (is PTP >>>> mode) instead of 'Transferring files / Auto Auto' (is MTP mode). >>> >>> Oh, yes, my Android phone certainly works in this mode, but I almost >>> never do. >> >> Of course you don't use it in that mode, I don't either. It's just a >> *test* to determine if an *iPhone* is likely to work in the same way. >> From your positive test result, it's likely that an iPhone will work as >> well. > > I just by chance tried it minutes ago, and of course it worked. > FWIW if I connect my iPhone (8) to Linux (SuSE) it mounts DCIM as a gvfs filesystem under gvfsd-fuse. In thunar it appears as a gphoto2: URL. So I see images and videos taken by the camera. Unlike with Android, that's all I can access. -- Remove numerics from my email address.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-01 00:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ujae4lxvsr.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #145959 |
On 2024-12-31 23:25, Dave Royal wrote: > "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message: >> On 2024-12-31 22:15, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 2024-12-31 16:36, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> On 2024-12-31 12:42, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>>>>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2024-12-30 16:56, Theo wrote: >>>>>>>>> In comp.mobile.android Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-30 04:40, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 19:37, knuttle wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/29/2024 9:45 PM, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-29 18:42, Andrew wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:27:04 -0000 (UTC) : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please explain how to get an apple to work with a PC. >>>>>>>>>>>> Especially how do you get pictures from you Apple phone to your >>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 10 PC >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 'Import to your Windows PC >>>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Done! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How about Linux? Just curious. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://libimobiledevice.org/ >>>>>>>>> which is used by various file managers (Dolphin, Nautilus, etc), >>>>>>>>> or ifuse makes it available as a FUSE filesystem that can be >>>>>>>>> accessed from anywhere. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (it's possible native MTP works for photo access without a driver >>>>>>>>> - I've not tried that) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) as present in Android, works >>>>>>>> perfectly in Linux, on several file browsers. I don't have an >>>>>>>> iPhone nor my friends, so I haven't tried there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AFAIK, the easiest method with iPhone/iPad devices is to use PTP >>>>>>> (Picture Transfer Protocol), not MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) to >>>>>>> access the photo storage of the device, i.e. what is DCIM\Camera on >>>>>>> Android. On Windows, that will show the device as a camera, not a >>>>>>> phone. If Linux can - automatically - use PTP, then that should also >>>>>>> work on Linux. >>>>>> >>>>>> AFAIK, Linux uses PTP if the phone (Android) decides to activate only >>>>>> PTP. >>>>> >>>>> That means that you *could* test if an iPhone is likely to work in >>>>> PTP mode: Just connect your Android phone to your Linux system and in >>>>> the 'USB settings' of the phone select 'Transferring images' (is PTP >>>>> mode) instead of 'Transferring files / Auto Auto' (is MTP mode). >>>> >>>> Oh, yes, my Android phone certainly works in this mode, but I almost >>>> never do. >>> >>> Of course you don't use it in that mode, I don't either. It's just a >>> *test* to determine if an *iPhone* is likely to work in the same way. >>> From your positive test result, it's likely that an iPhone will work as >>> well. >> >> I just by chance tried it minutes ago, and of course it worked. >> > > FWIW if I connect my iPhone (8) to Linux (SuSE) it mounts DCIM > as a gvfs filesystem under gvfsd-fuse. In thunar it appears as a > gphoto2: URL. So I see images and videos taken by the camera. > Unlike with Android, that's all I can access. Ah. Thanks, that's the information that was missing. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-30 08:47 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vkuirm$1na69$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #145852 |
On 2024-12-30 07:44, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2024-12-30 04:40, Alan wrote: >> On 2024-12-29 19:37, knuttle wrote: >>> On 12/29/2024 9:45 PM, Alan wrote: >>>> On 2024-12-29 18:42, Andrew wrote: >>>>> Chris wrote on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:27:04 -0000 (UTC) : > > ... > >>>> >>> Please explain how to get an apple to work with a PC. Especially how >>> do you get pictures from you Apple phone to your Windows 10 PC >> >> 'Import to your Windows PC >> >> You can import photos to your PC by connecting your device to your >> computer and using the Apple Devices app: >> >> Install the Apple Devices app from the Microsoft Store. >> Connect your iPhone or iPad to your PC with a USB cable. >> If asked, unlock your iOS or iPadOS device using your passcode. >> If you see a prompt on your iOS or iPadOS device asking you to Trust >> This Computer, tap Trust or Allow to continue.' >> >> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120267> >> >> Done! > > How about Linux? Just curious. > I don't know about Linux, sorry. I do computer support for a living and I've had precisely one client in more than 25 years of doing this who had a Linux system.
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| From | David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-30 19:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vkus3l$1ougu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #145870 |
On 30/12/2024 16:47, Alan wrote: > I do computer support for a living and I've had precisely one client in > more than 25 years of doing this who had a Linux system. So you don't serve companies that use Android phones? You will also find Linux embedded in many devices, such as TV set top boxes, routers, industrial control systems, etc.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-30 11:49 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vkutge$1p875$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #145879 |
On 2024-12-30 11:25, David Woolley wrote: > On 30/12/2024 16:47, Alan wrote: >> I do computer support for a living and I've had precisely one client >> in more than 25 years of doing this who had a Linux system. > > So you don't serve companies that use Android phones? You will also > find Linux embedded in many devices, such as TV set top boxes, routers, > industrial control systems, etc. I don't consider a device with an OS that one never interacts with directly to have an OS that I support.
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| From | Andrew <andys@nospam.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-31 01:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vkvg07$167h$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #145879 |
David Woolley wrote on Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:25:41 +0000 : >> I do computer support for a living and I've had precisely one client in >> more than 25 years of doing this who had a Linux system. > > So you don't serve companies that use Android phones? You will also > find Linux embedded in many devices, such as TV set top boxes, routers, > industrial control systems, etc. Just so you know whom you're dealing with, this Alan Baker Apple troll (who claims to "support" customers and yet has never even once used Windows or Linux or Android) had insisted for weeks on end that it's physically impossible to change any of the headers in a Usenet post - specifically he swore over & over that it's impossible to add a spoofed news client header. Who is *that* stupid? He's insisted that simply by owning a BMW he knows everything about it, and yet, he doesn't even know the difference between a bimmer & a beemer (which, I might add, originated in the UK racing circles). Who is *that* stupid? Speaking of racing circles, this Alan Baker moron claims to be an expert in racing such that he claims he "teaches" racing - and yet - he has no idea what curves are called. To him - all curves are exactly the same in all ways. His IQ, if it's even 40, would be overstating his ability to think. There's a reason he's one of fewer than ten people I've plonked in decades on Usenet. He simply disputes everything he doesn't have any knowledge of. Which is everything. Just watch.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-30 22:34 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vl0399$242k6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #145913 |
On 2024-12-30 17:05, Andrew wrote: > David Woolley wrote on Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:25:41 +0000 : > >>> I do computer support for a living and I've had precisely one client >>> in more than 25 years of doing this who had a Linux system. >> >> So you don't serve companies that use Android phones? You will also >> find Linux embedded in many devices, such as TV set top boxes, >> routers, industrial control systems, etc. > > Just so you know whom you're dealing with, this Alan Baker Apple troll > (who claims to "support" customers and yet has never even once used Windows > or Linux or Android) Why must you lie about me? > had insisted for weeks on end that it's physically > impossible to change any of the headers in a Usenet post - specifically he > swore over & over that it's impossible to add a spoofed news client header. > > Who is *that* stupid? > > He's insisted that simply by owning a BMW he knows everything about it, and > yet, he doesn't even know the difference between a bimmer & a beemer > (which, I might add, originated in the UK racing circles). I've never insisted anythign of the kind. > > Who is *that* stupid? > > Speaking of racing circles, this Alan Baker moron claims to be an expert in > racing such that he claims he "teaches" racing - and yet - he has no idea > what curves are called. To him - all curves are exactly the same in all > ways. 1. I claim I teach racing...because I teach racing. Last year I was chairman of the Race Drivers Committee of the Sports Car Club of BC. <https://web.archive.org/web/20230422005048/https://www.sccbc.net/about-sccbc/race-drivers/> "Alan Baker" there? That's me. 'The Race Drivers Committee organizes and operates the SCCBC Race Driver Training Program. The driver training program is an important part of preparing to enter the sport of racing at Mission and is a prerequisite to acquiring a Novice race license. The twice annual Race Driver Training program provides unparalleled instruction on handling vehicles under extreme conditions. For more information, visit the Race Drivers Training Program page. Membership on the Race Drivers Committee is by invitation only. The committee is comprised of some of the best racers in British Columbia. Most committee members have won championships in their class while others have done consistently well over the years and have proven themselves capable of excelling in all race conditions. 2. I've never claimed "all curves are exactly the same in all ways."
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| From | Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 07:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lthjc8FqhtaU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #145870 |
On 30 Dec 2024 at 16:47:50, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > > I do computer support for a living and I've had precisely one client in > more than 25 years of doing this who had a Linux system. > Linux users don't need constant hand-holding.
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