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Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force

From Andrew <andys@nospam.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android, uk.telecom.mobile
Subject Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force
Date 2024-12-30 19:11 +0000
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Theo wrote on 30 Dec 2024 15:56:51 +0000 (GMT) :

>> How about Linux? Just curious.
> 
> https://libimobiledevice.org/
> which is used by various file managers (Dolphin, Nautilus, etc), or ifuse
> makes it available as a FUSE filesystem that can be accessed from anywhere.

1. Copying photos from iOS to Windows is easy
2. Going the other way is not 

Apple murdered interoperability.

While it's trivial to copy an iOS DCIM image or video from the iOS device,
one way only, to the Windows device, where Linux excels is two way file
transfer of not only photos, but almost anything on the iOS device.

You have to know a few tricks though - but once you know them - it works.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/s2x0f9Js/files14.jpg> Simultaneous Linux, win & iOS
 <https://i.postimg.cc/g269S8rT/files13.jpg> It's easy if you know how
 <https://i.postimg.cc/pVJf72fN/files12.jpg> iOS hacks very often will fail
 <https://i.postimg.cc/cChf8mx1/files11.jpg> idiot iOS hacks just to copy
 <https://i.postimg.cc/9MGdc2s7/files10.jpg> Android is 2-way fast over USB
 <https://i.postimg.cc/mDx3xkp4/files09.jpg> iOS only DCIM & only 1-way 
 <https://i.postimg.cc/3xcCBngd/files08.jpg> iOS is just a dumb brick 
 <https://i.postimg.cc/KjK4nHwf/files07.jpg> Ubuntu is two-way, everything
 <https://i.postimg.cc/Jhmy9KH7/files06.jpg> Ubuntu uses iFuse for magic
 <https://i.postimg.cc/qqg61Rh8/files05.jpg> Ubuntu, movies _to_ iOS on USB
 <https://i.postimg.cc/QMk7tvZW/files04.jpg> Ubuntu is two way, everything
 <https://i.postimg.cc/d3SGkdgr/files03.jpg> Android is two way, everything
 <https://i.postimg.cc/L8b18Zmx/files02.jpg> iOS "Files" is not useful
 <https://i.postimg.cc/NFkXsJ0X/files01.jpg> iOS/Win is 1-way & DCIM only

> (it's possible native MTP works for photo access without a driver - I've not
> tried that)

A driver is automatically installed on Windows when you plug in an iOS
device over USB - but without adding bloatware, you can't copy TO the iOS
device.

Worse, the bloatware requires the Apple ID of every device you wish to
connect to - and each and ever iOS users' password too. 

Fancy that.
Nothing  works in the walled garden when it comes to the real world.

By way of contrast, you can connect any Android device to any Windows PC to
then copy bidirectionally to almost anywhere on that Android device.

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EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-29 03:32 +0000
  Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:43 -0800
    Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2024-12-29 10:05 +0000
      Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2024-12-29 11:32 +0100
        Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Harry S Robins <stanleyrobins@nothere.uk> - 2024-12-29 09:24 -0600
          Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:12 -0800
        Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:12 -0800
  Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2024-12-29 09:40 +0000
    Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2024-12-29 11:24 +0000
      Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2024-12-29 12:24 +0000
        Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Nick Cine <nickcine@is.invalid> - 2024-12-29 08:31 -0700
          Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-29 16:50 +0100
            Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-29 17:46 +0000
              Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:04 -0800
              Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 18:27 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:38 -0800
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 02:42 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 18:45 -0800
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-29 22:37 -0500
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 19:40 -0800
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 16:44 +0100
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2024-12-30 15:56 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 19:11 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:23 -0800
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 23:17 +0100
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-31 00:58 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 11:42 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:17 +0100
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:36 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:18 +0100
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:15 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 23:00 +0100
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-12-31 22:25 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-01 00:16 +0100
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 08:47 -0800
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2024-12-30 19:25 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:49 -0800
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-31 01:05 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 22:34 -0800
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 04:50 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 20:58 -0800
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-12-30 18:03 +1300
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 05:06 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 22:36 -0800
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2024-12-30 10:26 +0100
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Nick Charles - 2024-12-30 17:41 -0500
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-31 01:11 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:20 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 19:33 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:51 -0800
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 15:24 +0000
            Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:19 -0800
          Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:14 -0800
      Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:13 -0800
      Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 18:21 +0000
      Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-29 10:46 -0800
        Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:25 +0000
          Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-30 12:07 +0000
            Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-30 12:32 +0000
              Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 19:17 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:24 -0800
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2024-12-30 14:39 -0500
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:48 -0800
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-31 01:17 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-31 16:03 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 01:20 +0000
          Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-30 06:21 -0800
  Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-12-29 09:00 -0500
    Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> - 2024-12-29 16:18 +0100
      Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-12-29 12:25 -0500
        Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-29 17:39 +0000
          Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:03 -0800
        Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:02 -0800
          Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-12-31 08:39 -0500
          Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 15:58 +0000
            Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-31 10:01 -0800
              Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 21:41 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2025-01-01 00:18 +0000
      Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 10:20 -0800
      Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 18:21 +0000
        Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-30 02:50 +0000
          Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 18:53 -0800
        Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 16:36 +0100
          Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 12:10 +0000
            Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:26 +0100
            Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2024-12-31 14:42 +0000
              Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:28 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2024-12-31 17:00 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 19:00 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:15 +0100
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:19 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 21:47 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 22:22 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 01:36 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 01:41 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 16:32 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-01-02 00:18 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Ken <ken@birchanger.com> - 2025-01-02 09:53 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2025-01-02 10:34 +0000
                Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Ken <ken@birchanger.com> - 2025-01-04 11:18 +0000
            Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 21:43 +0000
              Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 14:45 +0000
          Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 15:37 +0000
            Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2025-01-01 01:47 +0000
              Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-31 22:55 -0800
              Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-01 12:56 -0800
      Re: EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-29 10:48 -0800

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