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| First post | 2024-11-24 17:44 -0800 |
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 17:44 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:03 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:17 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:37 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:42 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:58 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:59 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 22:19 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 19:32 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:48 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 19:52 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:20 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:46 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 06:18 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:29 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 17:51 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:12 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 18:26 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:59 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:55 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 11:31 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:16 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:26 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:55 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:47 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Pierre <pierrej@shaw.ca> - 2024-12-03 09:51 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:50 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:35 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:33 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-25 22:32 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:15 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:46 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 07:08 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 07:46 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:43 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 08:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 10:32 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 08:32 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-26 09:58 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 10:35 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 11:13 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:45 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 12:01 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 12:32 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 12:45 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 13:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 14:19 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 14:32 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:05 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 12:28 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:54 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 15:58 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:25 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:16 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:41 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 09:09 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:24 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-02 13:49 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:28 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-02 16:11 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 16:38 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:58 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 13:34 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 10:55 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 12:45 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-04 09:59 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 13:17 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 13:01 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 12:59 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-03 14:03 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 11:00 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 16:26 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 16:56 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:27 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:21 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:13 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:33 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:56 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:52 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 11:32 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:08 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 12:32 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 16:00 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 16:00 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:18 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:10 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:30 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:37 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-26 10:06 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-26 10:03 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:32 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 17:54 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:15 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-27 00:04 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:16 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Yon Wane <"yonwane-lol!"@pac2.com> - 2024-11-26 22:27 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 08:29 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:18 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting ppd382 <xyz@vote.com> - 2025-03-11 08:13 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Mai Keister <m.keister@altopia.net> - 2025-03-11 13:59 -0700
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "jubox@ovens.net" <jubox@ovens.net> - 2025-03-18 17:48 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting orangeneck <orangeneck@127.0.0.1> - 2025-03-29 22:06 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:42 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:31 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 17:53 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:13 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 18:28 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:38 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 18:58 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 16:16 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:42 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 17:33 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 20:48 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 06:25 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:17 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-06 19:28 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-07 13:18 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 17:03 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 14:17 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 17:39 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 15:40 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 18:53 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 16:01 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 19:19 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 16:45 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:14 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:31 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:43 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:48 -0800
Microsoft Linux Distro (was: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-08 01:53 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:58 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:00 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:59 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:56 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:48 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:38 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:36 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 09:48 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 12:55 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:01 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 13:13 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:24 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-09 13:56 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:57 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 08:56 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:02 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 11:21 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:29 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 11:33 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 09:02 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Wayne Kerr <waynek@msu.edu> - 2024-12-14 21:50 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 13:17 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 09:01 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Wayne Kerr <waynek@msu.edu> - 2024-12-14 21:14 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 13:17 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 16:21 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 13:34 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 17:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 14:25 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 17:32 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 14:41 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 17:51 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 15:04 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 05:56 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-15 09:24 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 13:30 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:38 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:05 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:26 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:58 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:10 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:07 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 19:56 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 10:39 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:30 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:16 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:20 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:33 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:43 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:51 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 14:52 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 12:35 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-17 15:39 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:53 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:52 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:52 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 15:42 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 15:48 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 16:47 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 17:01 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 22:34 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:25 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 11:40 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 12:02 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 12:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 12:54 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:08 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 14:13 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:31 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 14:36 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:47 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:22 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:37 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:13 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:18 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:25 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:39 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:45 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 14:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 12:35 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-17 15:45 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:02 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:14 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:01 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:56 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:55 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:54 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:54 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:53 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:50 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:48 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:46 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:13 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 14:35 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:45 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:20 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:37 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:10 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:14 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:20 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:25 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:41 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:46 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 14:51 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 12:36 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 16:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-17 16:34 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 19:19 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 16:22 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 20:26 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 09:03 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-18 09:24 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 13:01 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-18 10:36 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 14:03 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:41 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting will <willford@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-21 01:50 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:01 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:19 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:42 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:53 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 21:57 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 19:06 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 22:17 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 10:10 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:10 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:43 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-20 22:05 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 22:15 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 23:31 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-21 08:44 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 10:11 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:13 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Din004 <din004@oracle.com> - 2024-12-25 10:44 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-25 09:26 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-25 11:55 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-26 02:07 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-25 23:07 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting alex <alex_@pintrest.com> - 2024-12-26 00:44 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-26 09:39 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jon Ball <jon-ball@spectrum.com> - 2024-12-26 22:09 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-26 13:37 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting wasabi <lotso@jollyroger.com> - 2024-12-28 14:33 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 14:36 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 17:43 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 14:47 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 17:55 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 15:55 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 19:00 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 16:02 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 20:30 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:02 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 22:07 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:42 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 22:48 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:53 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 23:04 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 20:07 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 23:16 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 21:53 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 11:21 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:34 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 11:37 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:47 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:15 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 15:22 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:42 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 16:08 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 16:40 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 19:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 17:10 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2024-12-30 04:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Red Zone <redzone@trump.com> - 2024-12-30 19:45 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 14:57 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 12:05 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:27 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-30 21:25 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-12-31 00:54 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:38 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2024-12-30 16:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:36 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:52 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:56 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 16:13 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 16:42 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 20:00 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 17:10 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 21:46 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 18:52 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 22:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 19:22 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 22:27 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 19:39 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:57 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:56 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:54 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:51 -0500
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:47 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:45 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:44 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Petry F." <petry_f@hushmail.com> - 2024-12-29 04:25 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 21:54 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:42 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:41 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-28 21:52 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-30 18:23 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 10:30 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 13:42 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:23 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 14:55 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:58 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:25 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:01 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:07 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:19 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:41 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:43 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:30 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:28 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:27 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 12:04 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:26 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:13 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:23 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:40 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 19:14 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 23:04 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 11:52 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Byrd <byrd@someoem.com> - 2025-01-02 03:02 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 21:08 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-01 18:44 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 22:01 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 22:12 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Ball <rudyball@gmx.com> - 2025-01-03 19:02 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 11:20 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 15:19 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 14:54 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 18:40 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 16:18 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 19:28 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 17:11 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 20:24 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 17:40 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 20:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 19:39 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:29 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 12:36 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 20:53 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 18:19 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 21:29 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 18:32 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 21:47 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 19:03 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 22:14 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 19:39 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 22:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 23:32 -0800
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Clint <clintb@infiniti.net> - 2025-01-13 00:36 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-13 09:16 -0800
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Johnson <rudyj@google.com> - 2025-01-21 14:06 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-21 14:18 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Sadler <sadler@msn.com> - 2025-01-26 06:28 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> - 2025-01-22 03:46 -0500
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-01 07:31 -0500
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-12-29 01:30 +0100
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting wasabi <lotso@jollyroger.com> - 2024-12-28 15:57 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 16:03 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-26 08:39 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 19:24 -0500
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting ND beat Indy <choke@choke.choke> - 2024-12-20 21:37 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-21 09:35 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:17 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:18 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:30 -0500
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Gary M. Stewart <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2024-12-25 21:48 +0100
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 14:06 -0800
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:42 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:16 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:33 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:04 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:13 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:18 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:20 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 16:29 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 17:53 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 19:51 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 10:38 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:29 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:18 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:23 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:31 -0800
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:40 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:08 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:29 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:01 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:30 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:24 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 21:11 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:28 -0800
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting hank <none@invalid.org> - 2024-12-16 00:02 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 09:06 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-14 18:21 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting hank <none@invalid.org> - 2024-12-15 23:06 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-15 15:41 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Duc Nguyen <dnguyen@somecorp.org> - 2024-12-15 19:10 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 22:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-15 22:42 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 22:35 -0500
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-07 23:59 +0000
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Canoza <rc@thejollykone.con> - 2024-12-08 04:06 -0500
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting T. Walz <tampons4sale@dont-email.me> - 2024-12-08 12:41 +0100
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-09 13:46 -0500
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:41 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:13 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:47 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 06:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 07:44 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:18 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 08:35 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:58 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 09:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 10:40 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 08:35 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-26 09:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 10:44 -0500
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 16:16 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:46 -0500
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| Date | 2024-11-26 10:35 -0500 |
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-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >>>>> your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio >>>>> that you've tried to compare your system against, >>>> >>>> I wasn't trying to compare the benchmarks. I was comparing realized >>>> value. >>> >>> Fine, but why did you then compare your system to one that's known to be >>> vastly more capable? Your "Apples vs Oranges" has become deliberate. >> >> I was comparing to an Apple device currently available, that it is >> newer and faster didn't matter, because it was about initial price. > >You went upscale instead of choosing one comparable to your PC's i5. > >That's like bragging that a Toyota Yaris is cheaper than a Porsche 911 >while pretending that no other cars exist in the marketplace. I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs. >>>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running >>>> Linux, this has no meaning to me. It might as well still be brand >>>> new. Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new >>>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer. >>> >>> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it >>> is aging? >> >> I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no. > >What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows? >I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP. It's just heavier demands on hardware. M$ is not in the consumer's interest. Linux is. >>> So just how sure are you now that its going to last as many >>> years as you've been hoping it would without several more upgrades, even >>> with Linux? Keep in mind that you're already at over $1100 invested & >>> counting. >> >> Nothing to indicate I'll need further upgrades, and your figure for >> what I've put in seems higher than actual. > >But nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that >you've already paid for, especially RAM. Wrong, my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away. 32 GB is a very reasonable amount to have. >And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided >is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade. I estimated it was +$50 for >which you've protested but not provided its actual cost.... > >...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement >above, you have zero basis to complain: had my estimate for your RAM >upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150. It's something like $50, yeah, no biggie, much like the cheap video card. >> I liked the i5-10400 without regard to it >> containing basic video, that was something convenient for my old >> monitor, that I had to replace it with a card was no biggie. > >Which is you saying that you're not sensitive to a +10% cost increase. > >With the prior insensitivity to your $200 Windows license part, you're >at +$300 over, so you're not sensitive to +30% cost increases. > >You're not being a particularly value conscious consumer in IRL >practice: so remind us again about why OEM markups are so 'evil'? /s The problem is that to get what I have, you have to pay so much up front, with Apple. There's no question I got equally good components for less. >> I regularly use 16 GB for main usage *plus* more for cache, I even >> occasionally go slightly over the full 32 GB when both are factored >> in, slightly using swap. I *could* actually move to 48 or 64 GB, if I >> were obsessed. > >Merely allocating doesn't mean that it actually gets used: what was your >swap performance metric *before* you chose to drop money on a RAM >upgrade? Because without evidence of a performance degradation, you're >again gratuitously spending your money to solve a non-problem. I watch System Monitor, I see that my 32 GB approaches and even slightly surpasses getting maxed out, including cache, leading to minor use of swap. >>>>> It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the >>>>> OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s >>>> >>>> Not remotely. >>> >>> In your dreams, unfortunately. As I've already noted, you could have >>> bought a Mac Mini for less & had comparable/better performing hardware. >> >> But it'd be running macOS. :) > >Because no Mac ever has been able to run Linux? Pull my other leg. >Now granted, there are some reports that there's not a great version of >Linux for running on the M4 CPUs, but one can always run Linux in a VM >under MacOS ... I've found that Windows11 does fine this way. I wouldn't buy Apple hardware to run something other than macOS. That it can isn't really a material point. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| Date | 2024-11-26 11:13 -0500 |
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Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away I would clarify, it's actually not quite that when I first boot up and load everything, but approaching it. It's more when I additionally load LibreOffice Writer and GIMP, and the PDF viewer, yada yada, it hits and exceeds 16 GB main RAM use. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 10:45 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vi7ni2$45fk$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144497 |
"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message news:rosbkj196f9d8nf3krl56vbbamcgj02erh@4ax.com... > Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > >>my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away > > > I would clarify, it's actually not quite that when I first boot up and > load everything, but approaching it. It's more when I additionally > load LibreOffice Writer and GIMP, and the PDF viewer, yada yada, it > hits and exceeds 16 GB main RAM use. Really? LibreOffice Writer - 256MB GIMP - 4GB PDF viewer - about 400MB Win11 - 2GB-8GB However, I would expect a "high end" system to have adequate memory when setup. Because even if we take the high end for Win11, you still have lots of overhead for ordinary programs. I would think a well educated builder putting together a "high end" system in the habit of having a lot of programs active would have allowed for that in his build at the start. Now you've had to either replace your memory or fill up your remaining slots because you failed to properly determine your hardware needs at the start.
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 12:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vi7j8c$25k2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144495 |
On 11/26/24 10:35 AM, Joel wrote: > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > >>>>>> your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio >>>>>> that you've tried to compare your system against, >>>>> >>>>> I wasn't trying to compare the benchmarks. I was comparing realized >>>>> value. >>>> >>>> Fine, but why did you then compare your system to one that's known to be >>>> vastly more capable? Your "Apples vs Oranges" has become deliberate. >>> >>> I was comparing to an Apple device currently available, that it is >>> newer and faster didn't matter, because it was about initial price. >> >> You went upscale instead of choosing one comparable to your PC's i5. >> >> That's like bragging that a Toyota Yaris is cheaper than a Porsche 911 >> while pretending that no other cars exist in the marketplace. > > I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs. Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video, showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff: you bought marginal gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'. >>>>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running >>>>> Linux, this has no meaning to me. It might as well still be brand >>>>> new. Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new >>>>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer. >>>> >>>> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it >>>> is aging? >>> >>> I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no. >> >> What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows? >> I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP. > > It's just heavier demands on hardware. Which was more of doing what? Games? Computational Fluid Dynamics? > M$ is not in the consumer's interest. Linux is. With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice? >>>> So just how sure are you now that its going to last as many years >>>> as you've been hoping it would without several more upgrades, even >>>> with Linux? Keep in mind that you're already at over $1100 invested >>>> & counting. >>> >>> Nothing to indicate I'll need further upgrades, and your figure for >>> what I've put in seems higher than actual. >> >> But nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that >> you've already paid for, especially RAM. > > Wrong, my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away. 32 GB is > a very reasonable amount to have. You sure that it didn't hit 16GB because you set up the 16GB cache? Change to a 4GB cache and tell us what amount it says its usage hits. >> And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided >> is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade. I estimated it was +$50 for >> which you've protested but not provided its actual cost.... >> >> ...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement >> above, you have zero basis to complain: had my estimate for your RAM >> upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150. > > It's something like $50, yeah, no biggie, much like the cheap video > card. But it still all adds up. As has been already noted, you've overpaid by a good 30% while getting less capability overall. >>> I liked the i5-10400 without regard to it containing >>> basic video, that was something convenient for my old >>> monitor, that I had to replace it with a card was no biggie. >> >> Which is you saying that you're not sensitive to a +10% cost increase. >> >> With the prior insensitivity to your $200 Windows license part, you're >> at +$300 over, so you're not sensitive to +30% cost increases. >> >> You're not being a particularly value conscious consumer in IRL >> practice: so remind us again about why OEM markups are so 'evil'? /s > > The problem is that to get what I have, you have to pay so much up > front, with Apple. There's no question I got equally good components > for less. That claim has already been shown to be untrue, for your CPU & SSD bandwidths (& perhaps RAM too) are literally half, while you paid more. >>> I regularly use 16 GB for main usage *plus* more for cache, I even >>> occasionally go slightly over the full 32 GB when both are factored >>> in, slightly using swap. I *could* actually move to 48 or 64 GB, if I >>> were obsessed. >> >> Merely allocating doesn't mean that it actually gets used: what was your >> swap performance metric *before* you chose to drop money on a RAM >> upgrade? Because without evidence of a performance degradation, you're >> again gratuitously spending your money to solve a non-problem. > > > I watch System Monitor, I see that my 32 GB approaches and even > slightly surpasses getting maxed out, including cache, leading to > minor use of swap. Modern OSs are designed to use all of the available hardware RAM, which makes the old method of looking at just usage effectively obsolete. >>>>>> It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the >>>>>> OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s >>>>> >>>>> Not remotely. >>>> >>>> In your dreams, unfortunately. As I've already noted, you could have >>>> bought a Mac Mini for less & had comparable/better performing hardware. >>> >>> But it'd be running macOS. :) >> >> Because no Mac ever has been able to run Linux? Pull my other leg. >> Now granted, there are some reports that there's not a great version of >> Linux for running on the M4 CPUs, but one can always run Linux in a VM >> under MacOS ... I've found that Windows11 does fine this way. > > I wouldn't buy Apple hardware to run something other than macOS. That > it can isn't really a material point. Avoidance, which is even if you don't want to run MacOS, the opportunity that you spurned to get better hardware at a lower price. -hh
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 12:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <c6lekjpcdl81hef5f8lktrm56c5hna8tmm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #144559 |
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >> I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs. > >Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video, >showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff: you bought marginal >gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'. The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU. The NVIDIA card is an add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along. WTF are you harping on that for? >>>>>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running >>>>>> Linux, this has no meaning to me. It might as well still be brand >>>>>> new. Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new >>>>>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer. >>>>> >>>>> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it >>>>> is aging? >>>> >>>> I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no. >>> >>> What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows? >>> I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP. >> >> It's just heavier demands on hardware. > >Which was more of doing what? Games? Computational Fluid Dynamics? Just existing, M$ steals CPU cycles. >> M$ is not in the consumer's interest. Linux is. > >With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice? It goes to show how much they know. >>> nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that >>> you've already paid for, especially RAM. >> >> Wrong, my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away. 32 GB is >> a very reasonable amount to have. > >You sure that it didn't hit 16GB because you set up the 16GB cache? >Change to a 4GB cache and tell us what amount it says its usage hits. I didn't mess with anything of that nature, I just let the OS work. >>> And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided >>> is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade. I estimated it was +$50 for >>> which you've protested but not provided its actual cost.... >>> >>> ...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement >>> above, you have zero basis to complain: had my estimate for your RAM >>> upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150. >> >> It's something like $50, yeah, no biggie, much like the cheap video >> card. > >But it still all adds up. As has been already noted, you've overpaid by >a good 30% while getting less capability overall. Not in the least, I got good prices at the times I purchased the gear, it adds up to a great value, long-lasting with Linux, unlike Winblows 11. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 12:45 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vi7pcf$4gp5$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144562 |
"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message news:c6lekjpcdl81hef5f8lktrm56c5hna8tmm@4ax.com... > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > >>> I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs. >> >>Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video, >>showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff: you bought marginal >>gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'. > > > The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU. not when the video is integrated and you expect to use that integrated video. > The NVIDIA card is an > add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along. But apparently not enough to get one until the hardware you paid for in your "high end" system provided, or rather you claim, was inadequate. > WTF are you harping on that for? Shows your poor decisions. >>>>>>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running >>>>>>> Linux, this has no meaning to me. It might as well still be brand >>>>>>> new. Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new >>>>>>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that >>>>>> it >>>>>> is aging? >>>>> >>>>> I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no. >>>> >>>> What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows? >>>> I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP. >>> >>> It's just heavier demands on hardware. >> >>Which was more of doing what? Games? Computational Fluid Dynamics? > > > Just existing, M$ steals CPU cycles. Any operating system does. Otherwise, it won't work. You think Linux doesn't use CPU time? > >>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest. Linux is. >> >>With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice? > > > It goes to show how much they know. It certainly does.. while linux is, what, about 3%? >>>> nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that >>>> you've already paid for, especially RAM. >>> >>> Wrong, my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away. 32 GB is >>> a very reasonable amount to have. >> >>You sure that it didn't hit 16GB because you set up the 16GB cache? >>Change to a 4GB cache and tell us what amount it says its usage hits. > > > I didn't mess with anything of that nature, I just let the OS work. So you didn't actually set up such a cache, much less expand it, because you don't mess with anything of that nature. LOL.. So how did you know you needed more? >>>> And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided >>>> is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade. I estimated it was +$50 for >>>> which you've protested but not provided its actual cost.... >>>> >>>> ...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement >>>> above, you have zero basis to complain: had my estimate for your RAM >>>> upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150. >>> >>> It's something like $50, yeah, no biggie, much like the cheap video >>> card. >> >>But it still all adds up. As has been already noted, you've overpaid by >>a good 30% while getting less capability overall. > > > Not in the least, I got good prices at the times I purchased the gear, Apparently not when you paid more to get less capable hardware. > it adds up to a great value, long-lasting with Linux, unlike Winblows > 11. That's amusing given my hardware mostly predates Win11 and totally rocks under Win11.. and cost less than yours.
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 13:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vi7pm7$3slt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144562 |
On 11/27/24 12:32 PM, Joel wrote: > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > >>> I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs. >> >> Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video, >> showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff: you bought marginal >> gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'. > > The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU. The NVIDIA card is an > add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along. > WTF are you harping on that for? It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video. >>>>>>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running >>>>>>> Linux, this has no meaning to me. It might as well still be brand >>>>>>> new. Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new >>>>>>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it >>>>>> is aging? >>>>> >>>>> I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no. >>>> >>>> What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows? >>>> I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP. >>> >>> It's just heavier demands on hardware. >> >> Which was more of doing what? Games? Computational Fluid Dynamics? > > Just existing, M$ steals CPU cycles. If that were true, then why didn't you know enough to know that the system was inadequate on initial setup & returned it all for a refund? >>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest. Linux is. >> >> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice? > > It goes to show how much they know. The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know... >>>> nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that >>>> you've already paid for, especially RAM. >>> >>> Wrong, my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away. 32 GB is >>> a very reasonable amount to have. >> >> You sure that it didn't hit 16GB because you set up the 16GB cache? >> Change to a 4GB cache and tell us what amount it says its usage hits. > > I didn't mess with anything of that nature, I just let the OS work. Except for how that claim contradicts what you've previously said. >>>> And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided >>>> is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade. I estimated it was +$50 for >>>> which you've protested but not provided its actual cost.... >>>> >>>> ...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement >>>> above, you have zero basis to complain: had my estimate for your RAM >>>> upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150. >>> >>> It's something like $50, yeah, no biggie, much like the cheap video >>> card. >> >> But it still all adds up. As has been already noted, you've overpaid by >> a good 30% while getting less capability overall. > > Not in the least, I got good prices at the times I purchased the gear, > it adds up to a great value, long-lasting with Linux, unlike Winblows > 11. Because your costs to date of $1150 is less than a $600 mini before it may have been optioned-up? Nope. Nor even your initial spend of $1000 before your later upgrades. FWIW, a bare bones stripped M1 mini is a fine persona computer. And the current M4 generation is a pretty damn great one. -hh
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 14:19 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <k1sekjlmm1sjl9nk5hdfob5meh1hmpa3hm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #144585 |
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >>>> I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs. >>> >>> Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video, >>> showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff: you bought marginal >>> gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'. >> >> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU. The NVIDIA card is an >> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along. >> WTF are you harping on that for? > >It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video. Uh, I didn't. The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the lifetime of the machine. >>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest. Linux is. >>> >>> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice? >> >> It goes to show how much they know. > >The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know... Doubtful, I'm an expert, having used and observed the hardware and software in recent years. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 14:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vi7s3i$3slt$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144587 |
On 11/27/24 2:19 PM, Joel wrote: > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > >>>>> I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs. >>>> >>>> Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video, >>>> showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff: you bought marginal >>>> gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'. >>> >>> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU. The NVIDIA card is an >>> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along. >>> WTF are you harping on that for? >> >> It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video. > > > Uh, I didn't. The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the > lifetime of the machine. Incorrect: your first video controller was the one that came integrated into your i5 (the "F" version is cheaper & comes without) which you paid for. That makes the NVIDIA card you bought later the second one. >>>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest. Linux is. >>>> >>>> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice? >>> >>> It goes to show how much they know. >> >> The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know... > > > Doubtful, I'm an expert, having used and observed the hardware and > software in recent years. Not in this you're not, for you've shown us that you've spent 30% more (that we know of) than you had to for your capability. -hh
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 15:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <enuekj17nd4h75dqpejg8d5rbntjet1rrv@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #144590 |
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >>>> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU. The NVIDIA card is an >>>> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along. >>>> WTF are you harping on that for? >>> >>> It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video. >> >> Uh, I didn't. The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the >> lifetime of the machine. > >Incorrect: your first video controller was the one that came integrated >into your i5 (the "F" version is cheaper & comes without) which you paid >for. That makes the NVIDIA card you bought later the second one. ??? Are you on acid? I didn't even consider buying a different version of the CPU. Never even occurred to me in any respect. I had seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400, and began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even realizing there was a non-video-containing version. >>>>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest. Linux is. >>>>> >>>>> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice? >>>> >>>> It goes to show how much they know. >>> >>> The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know... >> >> Doubtful, I'm an expert, having used and observed the hardware and >> software in recent years. > >Not in this you're not, for you've shown us that you've spent 30% more >(that we know of) than you had to for your capability. I got a great deal, period. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 12:28 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vi7vdj$5eol$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144594 |
On 2024-11-27 12:05, Joel wrote: > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > >>>>> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU. The NVIDIA card is an >>>>> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along. >>>>> WTF are you harping on that for? >>>> >>>> It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video. >>> >>> Uh, I didn't. The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the >>> lifetime of the machine. >> >> Incorrect: your first video controller was the one that came integrated >> into your i5 (the "F" version is cheaper & comes without) which you paid >> for. That makes the NVIDIA card you bought later the second one. > > > ??? Are you on acid? I didn't even consider buying a different > version of the CPU. Never even occurred to me in any respect. I had > seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400, and > began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even > realizing there was a non-video-containing version. So you're not as expert as you claim...
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 15:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ok1fkjtk55jf6v555bch0rb0un87nps351@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #144600 |
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> I didn't even consider buying a different >> version of the [Intel i5-10400] CPU. Never even occurred to me in any respect. I had >> seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400, and >> began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even >> realizing there was a non-video-containing version. > >So you're not as expert as you claim... At the time, I was rusty. It'd been 10 years and counting, since my last build. I wasn't used to the idea of video being integrated in the CPU. But I liked the idea, since I could put off the possibility of investing in a discrete card. How is that a failure? By the time I bought the card I did, I got a great value. It all fell into place. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 15:58 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vi8bo2$7jug$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144608 |
On 2024-11-27 12:54, Joel wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>> I didn't even consider buying a different >>> version of the [Intel i5-10400] CPU. Never even occurred to me in any respect. I had >>> seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400, and >>> began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even >>> realizing there was a non-video-containing version. >> >> So you're not as expert as you claim... > > > At the time, I was rusty. It'd been 10 years and counting, since my > last build. I wasn't used to the idea of video being integrated in > the CPU. But I liked the idea, since I could put off the possibility > of investing in a discrete card. How is that a failure? By the time > I bought the card I did, I got a great value. It all fell into place. > Well, you do appear to be very expert... ...at excuses.
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-12-02 11:25 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <viktk5$3g7r2$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144625 |
"Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:vi8bo2$7jug$1@dont-email.me... > On 2024-11-27 12:54, Joel wrote: >> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> >>>> I didn't even consider buying a different >>>> version of the [Intel i5-10400] CPU. Never even occurred to me in any >>>> respect. I had >>>> seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400, and >>>> began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even >>>> realizing there was a non-video-containing version. >>> >>> So you're not as expert as you claim... >> >> >> At the time, I was rusty. It'd been 10 years and counting, since my >> last build. I wasn't used to the idea of video being integrated in >> the CPU. But I liked the idea, since I could put off the possibility >> of investing in a discrete card. How is that a failure? By the time >> I bought the card I did, I got a great value. It all fell into place. >> > > Well, you do appear to be very expert... > > ...at excuses. BOOM!
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-02 14:16 -0500 |
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| In reply to | #144748 |
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote: >"Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message >news:vi8bo2$7jug$1@dont-email.me... >> On 2024-11-27 12:54, Joel wrote: >> >> Well, you do appear to be very expert... >> >> ...at excuses. > >BOOM! What's your excuse for claiming elite status with Win7? -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-12-02 13:41 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vil2nb$3hi7c$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144757 |
"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message news:0r1skjpj9c2eu27cn59mefl02e3plkq6k4@4ax.com... > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote: >>"Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message >>news:vi8bo2$7jug$1@dont-email.me... >>> On 2024-11-27 12:54, Joel wrote: >>> >>> Well, you do appear to be very expert... >>> >>> ...at excuses. >> >>BOOM! > > > What's your excuse for claiming elite status with Win7? I never claimed to be elite. I use Win7 because it supports software which I already have purchased, which still totally fulfills my needs. While giving me far more performance using far less resources than Win11 or even current Linux. I mean you're claiming you need, what, 32GB of main memory? Meanwhile, you have claimed that status despite regularly posting your failures and poor decisions with both software and hardware. Of course, you have a long history of admitting to the bad choices you have made in your life.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-02 14:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <294skjt8nk20a3aol6nufs8ilnm20ak24u@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #144764 |
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote: >> What's your excuse for claiming elite status with Win7? > >I never claimed to be elite. I use Win7 because it supports software which I >already have purchased, which still totally fulfills my needs. While giving >me far more performance using far less resources than Win11 or even current >Linux. I mean you're claiming you need, what, 32GB of main memory? > >Meanwhile, you have claimed that status despite regularly posting your >failures and poor decisions with both software and hardware. > >Of course, you have a long history of admitting to the bad choices you have >made in your life. 32 GB is hardly excessive today. Maybe if you didn't cling to Win7 you'd realize that. If you were still using a Vista/XP computer or even one originally running 7 I'd get it, but 8.x was a legit upgrade, install Classic Shell and it was fine, and 10 started out as one, it isn't anymore. But you could run supported Linux that'd be far more advanced than Win7. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-12-03 09:09 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vin87p$55a0$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144767 |
"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message news:294skjt8nk20a3aol6nufs8ilnm20ak24u@4ax.com... > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote: > >>> What's your excuse for claiming elite status with Win7? >> >>I never claimed to be elite. I use Win7 because it supports software which >>I >>already have purchased, which still totally fulfills my needs. While >>giving >>me far more performance using far less resources than Win11 or even >>current >>Linux. I mean you're claiming you need, what, 32GB of main memory? >> >>Meanwhile, you have claimed that status despite regularly posting your >>failures and poor decisions with both software and hardware. >> >>Of course, you have a long history of admitting to the bad choices you >>have >>made in your life. > > > 32 GB is hardly excessive today. It is when you have all but admitted you increased it to 32GB without any sound reason to do so. > Maybe if you didn't cling to Win7 > you'd realize that. Well, since it would take a hell of a lot for Win7 to even need 32GB of memory, and Win7 does all I need of it, you have yet to explain what benefit an upgrade would provide me other than the number on the box. > If you were still using a Vista/XP computer or > even one originally running 7 I'd get it, but 8.x was a legit upgrade, Yea.. if you wanted to upgrade to a shitty version.. but then you're 'elite' you prefer new over better. > install Classic Shell and it was fine, Like putting lipstick on a pig.... >and 10 started out as one, it > isn't anymore. Still inferior to Win7 > But you could run supported Linux that'd be far more > advanced than Win7. Advanced? In what manner? What would Linux and all the need for additional software, compatibility issues and of course, according to you a massive amount of main memory give me which I do not already have with my existing software and hardware? Oh, gee, I get to have the 'adventure' of being trendy.. whereas all I need is something that works. So please, tell me what this investment of time & money into hardware, software, learning, and compatibility issues would make it worth it. (insert Jeopardy.wav)
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-12-02 11:24 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <viktk4$3g7r2$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144608 |
"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ok1fkjtk55jf6v555bch0rb0un87nps351@4ax.com... > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>> I didn't even consider buying a different >>> version of the [Intel i5-10400] CPU. Never even occurred to me in any >>> respect. I had >>> seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400, and >>> began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even >>> realizing there was a non-video-containing version. >> >>So you're not as expert as you claim... > > > At the time, I was rusty. You still are. > It'd been 10 years and counting, since my > last build. Wow.. so much for your claim of being elite.. > I wasn't used to the idea of video being integrated in > the CPU. But you've been claiming to be a expert. > But I liked the idea, since I could put off the possibility > of investing in a discrete card. And yet you had to do so because you didn't know what you were doing. > How is that a failure? Best case? You paid extra for hardware that didn't meet your needs and then paid yet more to overcome that mistake. > By the time > I bought the card I did, I got a great value. It all fell into place. Anything you had to pay wasn't a great deal no matter how little you paid when you had already paid extra to have the capability you couldn't use.
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-02 13:49 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vikvfl$3fj3m$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144747 |
On 12/2/24 12:24 PM, Scout wrote: > > > "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >> ... >> By the time >> I bought the card I did, I got a great value. It all fell into place. > > Anything you had to pay wasn't a great deal no matter how little you > paid when you had already paid extra to have the capability you couldn't > use. Its interesting in how there's been so much talk of the need for internal architecture modularity which appears to be based on the notion of ever-growing resource needs. Yet at the same time, we hear Joel say that they moved an existing 1TB NVMe from their old PC to their new PC 2-3 years ago now, which starts to invoke questions on if the resource needs really are growing at a sufficiently significant rate to merit the modularity choice. Case in point: a) how long ago was that NVMe originally purchased? b) how full was it when it was first put into service? c) how full is it today? For a notional illustration, lets say that it was 5 years ago when it was first deployed, and the OS & data back then consumed 300GB (30%). If it is at 50% today, that means that at a simple linear growth rate, its going to be at 70% in five years (2029) and at 90% ...pragmatically "full"...at another five years after that (2034). So then, do we _really_ expect this piece hardware will still be serviceable in 2029 and/or 2034? And a good enough performer vs what's state of the shelf in 2029 or 2034 such that it will be worth the effort to migrate it to another PC? At what point does it go to the bin to join 5.25" and 3.5" floppy disks? -hh
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