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  Android Contacts permissions Dave <dboland9@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 12:50 -0400
    Re: Android Contacts permissions Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-09-04 18:20 +0000
      Re: Android Contacts permissions Dave <dboland9@mail.com> - 2018-09-05 08:22 -0400
      Re: Android Contacts permissions xJumper <sugarman@mailinator.com> - 2018-09-05 08:50 -0400
        Re: Android Contacts permissions Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2018-09-05 14:09 +0100
    Re: Android Contacts permissions 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-04 14:33 -0700
      Re: Android Contacts permissions Dave <dboland9@mail.com> - 2018-09-05 08:24 -0400

#55527 — Android Contacts permissions

Just got an Android phone (ver.7).  Not a happy camper here so far. 
Android seems to want to make everything harder than it should be and 
more complex than needed, but that is just the opinion of a Linux user ;-)

My issue is that to have a contacts list of phone numbers, the 
permissions required are: calendar, contacts (obviously), location, 
phone (obviously), SMS, storage (obvious), and email attachments.  My 
question is why are calendar, location, and email needed?  Why would I 
want to do this and what are the security ramifications?  I'm curious 
how this would be handled if the phones were given out to women that 
have been harmed.

Thanks for the help.

Dave,

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#55531

In comp.mobile.android, Dave  <dboland9@mail.com> wrote:
> Just got an Android phone (ver.7).  Not a happy camper here so far. 
> Android seems to want to make everything harder than it should be and 
> more complex than needed, but that is just the opinion of a Linux user ;-)

Android is a complex Linux system. Every app runs as a separate user and
these permission models are what are needed to allow apps to share data.

> My issue is that to have a contacts list of phone numbers, the 
> permissions required are: calendar, contacts (obviously), location, 
> phone (obviously), SMS, storage (obvious), and email attachments.  My 
> question is why are calendar, location, and email needed?  Why would I 
> want to do this and what are the security ramifications?  I'm curious 
> how this would be handled if the phones were given out to women that 
> have been harmed.

You might want to store email addresses with contacts to use your
contact program to initiate email messages. I don't do that, but some
people will. Calendar permissions are presumably needed for inviting
people to events. If you have email addresses for people, and add them
to events, then automatic email invites can be sent, and when they reply
the ical attachements can be routed to the calendar to update RSVP
status. This is SOP for corporate calendars but might be overkill for
individuals.

I use the "Simple Mobile Tools" Calendar and Contacts myself, because I
think that those will have less Google in them.

https://simplemobiletools.github.io/

My Calendar has no permissions granted, and my Contacts has only "phone"
and "contacts" permissions.

Elijah
------
what's the "simple mobile tools" version of an sms / mms tool?

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#55542

On 09/04/2018 02:20 PM, Eli the Bearded wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, Dave  <dboland9@mail.com> wrote:
>> Just got an Android phone (ver.7).  Not a happy camper here so far.
>> Android seems to want to make everything harder than it should be and
>> more complex than needed, but that is just the opinion of a Linux user ;-)
> 
> Android is a complex Linux system. Every app runs as a separate user and
> these permission models are what are needed to allow apps to share data.

I get that Android is based on Linux, it is still odd.  For example, I 
don't have to give my contact program (app) permission to use my 
calendar program.  And the ability to find/configure the programs is 
much easier.

> 
>> My issue is that to have a contacts list of phone numbers, the
>> permissions required are: calendar, contacts (obviously), location,
>> phone (obviously), SMS, storage (obvious), and email attachments.  My
>> question is why are calendar, location, and email needed?  Why would I
>> want to do this and what are the security ramifications?  I'm curious
>> how this would be handled if the phones were given out to women that
>> have been harmed.
> 
> You might want to store email addresses with contacts to use your
> contact program to initiate email messages. I don't do that, but some
> people will. Calendar permissions are presumably needed for inviting
> people to events. If you have email addresses for people, and add them
> to events, then automatic email invites can be sent, and when they reply
> the ical attachements can be routed to the calendar to update RSVP
> status. This is SOP for corporate calendars but might be overkill for
> individuals.
> 
> I use the "Simple Mobile Tools" Calendar and Contacts myself, because I
> think that those will have less Google in them.
> 
> https://simplemobiletools.github.io/
> 
> My Calendar has no permissions granted, and my Contacts has only "phone"
> and "contacts" permissions.

This is a great suggestion, and will try them out as soon as I have 
time.  Thanks!!
> 
> Elijah
> ------
> what's the "simple mobile tools" version of an sms / mms tool?
> 

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#55544

On 09/04/2018 02:20 PM, Eli the Bearded wrote:

> 
> I use the "Simple Mobile Tools" Calendar and Contacts myself, because I
> think that those will have less Google in them.
> 
> https://simplemobiletools.github.io/
> 


What do you think of the default contacts/caller apps built in to custom
roms like Lineage? Are those loaded with all the usual "Googliness" or
is it stripped out? I run Lineage and while I thought I had a Google
free phone I noticed the default caller/sms messenger apps were made by
Google.

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#55545

xJumper wrote:

> I run Lineage and while I thought I had a Google
> free phone

AFAIK lineageOS doesn't come with GApps pre-installed, so presumably you 
installed them?

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#55532

On 9/4/2018 9:50 AM, Dave wrote:

> Just got an Android phone (ver.7).

My phone is on 7.0

> My issue is that to have a contacts list of phone numbers, the
> permissions required are: calendar, contacts (obviously), location,
> phone (obviously), SMS, storage (obvious), and email attachments.

> Why would I want to do this...

I didn't want those permissions either. So I went to:

Settings>Apps>Contacts>Permissions

And turned off everything I didn't want. Contacts still works fine on my
phone. My GUESS is that you can do the same on yours.

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#55543

On 09/04/2018 05:33 PM, 123456789 wrote:
> On 9/4/2018 9:50 AM, Dave wrote:
> 
>> Just got an Android phone (ver.7).
> 
> My phone is on 7.0
> 
>> My issue is that to have a contacts list of phone numbers, the
>> permissions required are: calendar, contacts (obviously), location,
>> phone (obviously), SMS, storage (obvious), and email attachments.
> 
>> Why would I want to do this...
> 
> I didn't want those permissions either. So I went to:
> 
> Settings>Apps>Contacts>Permissions
> 
> And turned off everything I didn't want. Contacts still works fine on my
> phone. My GUESS is that you can do the same on yours.
> 
I just got the phone and tried to save contacts.  Ended up having to 
give permission to everything except location to make the app take 
contacts without complaining.  Will try another contact app at some 
point in time.

Dave,

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