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  Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 05:04 +0000
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 15:57 +1000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 17:15 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:50 +1000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier  <HoraceAlgier@nowhere.com> - 2016-11-01 01:38 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 22:33 -0400
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 02:38 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 22:49 -0400
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-01 04:15 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 16:17 +1100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:55 +0000
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 00:48 +0000
                            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 12:33 +1100
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 06:56 +0100
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 00:48 +0000
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 12:33 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 02:23 +0000
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 13:41 +1100
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-01 12:25 -0400
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? John Carter <me@mymailsvr.org> - 2016-11-12 05:16 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 14:49 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:03 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 14:30 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:02 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-01 12:25 -0400
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 03:21 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 14:51 +1100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 06:58 +0100
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 17:00 +1100
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 07:09 +0100
                            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Hankat" <hyes342@nospam.com> - 2016-11-04 17:19 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 03:21 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 14:46 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-04 00:15 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 02:34 +0000
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-04 23:57 -0400
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 12:54 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 02:34 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 16:20 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-05 07:10 +0100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 17:54 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-11-05 16:49 -0500
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 06:17 +0100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:35 +1100
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 09:42 +0100
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 21:01 +1100
                            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 11:57 +0100
                              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 07:23 +1100
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-11-07 08:00 +0000
                          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-07 21:48 +0100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:05 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 14:26 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:53 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 15:54 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:33 +0000
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 15:51 +1100
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 05:11 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:32 +1100
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:55 +0000
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 09:12 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 05:19 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:33 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:54 +0000
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 09:11 +1100
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-07 19:23 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-10 19:29 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 00:27 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-11 15:26 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-09-08 09:13 +1200
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-07 22:21 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:52 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:34 +1000
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-07 08:48 -0400
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2016-09-07 10:46 -0400
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:50 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:32 +1000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:02 +1000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 13:00 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 17:50 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:46 +1000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-11 11:23 -0400
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-11 14:55 -0400
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:49 +1000
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 10:03 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 20:24 +1000
                      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 19:50 +0000
                        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:57 +1000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 06:52 +1000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 13:00 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:43 +1000
                  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 10:03 +0000
                    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 20:22 +1000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? The Mighty Ant <mightyant@antheap.com> - 2016-09-12 06:29 +0700
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-09-10 21:12 -0400
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:48 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-11 11:22 -0400
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#35652

Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote 

<reams of your pathetic excuse for a troll flushed where it belongs> 

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#35649

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 03:05:12 +0000 (UTC), Algeria Horan wrote:

> Apparently one Android app alone gives almost all of the umbrella
> functionality that Rod Speed and Apple Marketing collectively call
> "Continuitity".
>    "AirDroid gives Android users most of Continuity's features and allows
> some things that'll make Apple users jealous"
> http://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/features/how-to-make-calls-send-and-receive-sms-from-your-computer-using-an-android-phone-654766

Rod Speed tells us that Continuity umbrella stuff and Handoff whatever-stuff 
are different things, but, Apple tells us that Continuity is merely an 
un-trademarked umbrella term for a bunch of stuff, one of which is Handoff.

So we can take Continuity umbrella stuff to include Handoff stuff.

Since the reference in the quoted text above says that AirDroid umbrella 
stuff not only does most of what Continutity umbrella stuff does, we can 
safely say that Android has "umbrella stuff" too.

But let's dig deeper into the details.
* Your phone, right on your computer, right now.
* Calls, SMS, & app notifications you allowed, mirrored to the computer.
* Type with full physical keyboard and control with mouse. 
* Transfer things faster without looking for a cable. 
* Your phone, Mac, and Windows computers work like one..
  https://www.airdroid.com/

The two things inside of Continuity umbrella stuff that Airdroid umbrella 
stuff doesn't do already are:
 "AirDroid doesn't have anything like Handoff and doesn't let you receive 
phone calls."

Of course, there are apps to do just the remote phone call stuff:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=justPhone.remotePhone
  "Use your Microsoft Windows PC as remote dialer for managing incoming and 
outgoing calls and for writing and receiving SMS messages."

Yet, the devil will be in the details, because that article says:
 "Continuity also has a feature called Handoff, which allows you to pick up 
where you left off with apps... which is available in Chrome on Android".

Since we can safely say that Continuity umbrella stuff is also on Android, 
let's just look at the Handoff part of the Continuity umbrella stuff next.

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#35651

Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote

> Rod Speed tells us that Continuity umbrella stuff
> and Handoff whatever-stuff are different things,

You're lying thru your fucking teeth, as always, you pathetic excuse for a 
lying troll.

<all the rest of your pathetic excuse for a troll flushed where it belongs>
 

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#35653

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 03:33:38 +0000 (UTC), Algeria Horan wrote:

> Since we can safely say that Continuity umbrella stuff is also on Android, 
> let's just look at the Handoff part of the Continuity umbrella stuff next.

Looking back at the Apple trademark list, we find that Handoff is mearely a
meaningless trademark, which is part of the non-trademarked "continuity
umbrella stuff".

Googling for how to get handoff features in Android, there are so many hits
I am not sure where to start.

Here is "how to get continuity and handoff with Android and os/x"
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/303468-how-to-get-continuity-and-handoff-with-android-and-os-x/

Where it says "AirDroid 3 goes way beyond what iPhone and Mac users get."
1 Send and receive individual or group messages
2 Transfer files, photos, music and videos between Android and computer from
any network
3 Play and manage music and videos on Android and transfer them between
Android and computer
4 See through the lens of both front and back cameras 
5 Push URLs to the Android device and have them open with default web
browser
6 Take photos of anyone trying to unlock your device
7 End-to-end encryption

But other apps are suggested in that forum, for example:
http://www.getdialogue.com/
 "Keep your Android/iOS phone in your pocket.
Dialogue brings you handsfree calling through your Mac."

Interestingly, someone on the forum said "Airdroid has had
"Handoff+Confinuity" since forever, way before apple introduced it".

In addition, for Samsung users, there was always SideSync:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sec.android.sidesync30

And then there's "Flow":
 Samsung Flow takes on Apple's iOS Handoff, Continuity features
  "Easily picking up an app where you left off between phones, tablets and
other devices is what Flow delivers. It's not quite as seamless as similar
features in iOS 8 though."

And PushBullet.
http://www.latinpost.com/articles/39379/20150224/pushbullet-hands-on-review-how-to-get-apple-continuity-features-for-your-android-phone.htm

And MightyText
http://bgr.com/2014/07/31/how-to-use-yosemite-handoff-with-android/

And Baton:
https://www.cnet.com/news/nextbit-unveils-baton-the-ultimate-handoff-between-android-devices/

And get this, most of these are free Android apps that work just fine,
whether it's Windows or Mac. 

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#35662

Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote 

<reams of your pathetic excuse for a troll flushed where it belongs>
 

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#35691

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 19:32:12 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

> <reams of your pathetic excuse for a troll flushed where it belongs>

Heh heh ... you hate when you're proven dead wrong, which is, as it turns
out, all the time.

You can't name a SINGLE FUNCTIONALITY that is on iOS that isn't *already* on
Android. 

Not even one.

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#35693

Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote 

<reams of your pathetic excuse for a troll flushed where it belongs>
 

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#35655

On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 01:38:50 +0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:

>  On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 06:42:46 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:
> 
>> airdrop, 
>> continuity,
>> handoff, 
>> sandboxing, 
>> applepay

Here's the summary, where Handoff tradmark stuff is merely part of
Continuity umbrella liquid stuff and sandboxing is merely almost completely
limited file system access while Android has nearly complete file system
access - so they're just two different philosophies on the same
functionality, which is file system access. 

So that leaves the summary at:

AirDrop, == Android has plenty of ad hoc file transfer services (such as
ShareIt, FileDrop, AirDroid, Google Cast, Google Bump, Google Copresence,
Beam, etc.)

ApplePay == Android has plenty of encrypted payment systems (such as Android
Pay, Google Wallet, PayPass, Samsung Pay, Barclaycard bPay, EE Cash on Tap,
V.me, etc.)

Continuity == Android has plenty of similar "umbrella liquid stuff" (such as
AirDroid, SideSync, Remote Phone Call, Dialog, Samsung Flow, Pushbullet,
MightyText, Baton, etc.

So, we're *still* seeking out any functionality that is on iOS that is NOT
already on Android.

Just one thing.

Can't anyone list a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on
Android?

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#35663

Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote 

<reams of your pathetic excuse for a troll flushed where it belongs> 

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#35690

On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 19:33:14 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

> <reams of your pathetic excuse for a troll flushed where it belongs>

Clearly you can't name  a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't
already on Android?

The truth is that there is nothing on iOS that isn't already on Android.

If there was, someone would have listed it by now.

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#35692

Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> wrote 

<reams of your pathetic excuse for a troll flushed where it belongs>
 

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#33990

Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>... oops I mean "Aardvarks"... oops I
mean "Paul M. Cook"... oops I mean "VPN User"... oops I mean "Joe
Clock"... oops I mean "Marob Katon" ...  oops I mean "Chris Rangoon"...
wrote:

> Let's take "AirDrop? ad hoc services" first.
> 
> There is no such thing as "Airdrop". 
> Apple says so themselves.
> http://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/trademark/appletmlist.html
> 
> Just like RCA and ThinkPad are trademarks that are bought and sold among
> companies (none of which are currently from the "original" RCA or IBM), the
> word you use is merely a meaningless M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G "adjective" which
> Apple *bought* on Thursday, July 08, 2010 from another company.
> 
> - Apple Officially Acquires ?AirDrop? Trademark
> http://www.mactrast.com/2011/06/apple-officially-acquires-airdrop-trademark/
> http://www.trademarkia.com/airdrop-85080406.html
> 
> Apple M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G also registered the *logo* on March 7, 2013
> http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2013/03/apples-airdrop-logo-is-now-a-registered-trademark.html
> 
> Where the point is that it's a purely  M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G  tool that, in and
> of itself, is entirely meaningless (just as "Tylenol", in and of itself, is
> entirely meaningless and can be used for *anything* J&J wants to use it for
> just as Techron is used for a ton of unrelated products).
> 
> It's  M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G Rod. 
> Pure unadulterated (and very clever) M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G .
> 
> Which means it means nothing. It means whatever Apple MARKETING wants it to
> mean. And they clearly say it means nothing in and of itself.
> 
> The fact is that Apple says you must "include an appropriate generic term
> after the trademark the first time it appears. Thereafter, the generic term
> should appear frequently with the trademark." 
> 
> This is no different than any other M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G trademark much as
> Adobe and Ford and Mercury and Techron and Tylenol, etc.
> 
> For you to succumb so readily to meaningless M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G is a
> problem, because M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G's job is to feed you manure and your job
> is to pay for that manure (while Apple corporate laughs all the way to the
> bank).
> 
> OK. So we've shown that you must always follow the meaningless trademark
> with meaningful generic functionality.
> 
> The generic term for what the AirDrop? "software feature" does is called
> "ad hoc services":
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirDrop
>  - The AirDrop? software feature is an ad hoc service.
> 
> An ad hoc service is defined here:
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_ad_hoc_network
>  - Smart phone ad hoc networks leverage the existing hardware (primarily
> Bluetooth and Wi-Fi) in commercially available smart phones to create
> peer-to-peer networks without relying on cellular carrier networks,
> wireless access points, or traditional network infrastructure. SPANs differ
> from traditional hub and spoke networks, such as Wi-Fi Direct, in that they
> support multi-hop relays and there is no notion of a group leader so peers
> can join and leave at will without destroying the network.
> 
> *Clearly Android has ad hoc services.*

  "Android"? WTF, is "Android"? "Android" is just some product/company
which *Google* bought!

 So, "the word you use is merely a meaningless M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G "adjective"
which Google *bought* in 2005 from another company"!

  I hope that shooting yourself in the feet doesn't hurt too much!

[...]

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#34100

Three days ago, I wrote:
> Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>... oops I mean "Aardvarks"... oops I
> mean "Paul M. Cook"... oops I mean "VPN User"... oops I mean "Joe
> Clock"... oops I mean "Marob Katon" ...  oops I mean "Chris Rangoon"...
> wrote:
> 
> > Let's take "AirDrop? ad hoc services" first.
> > 
> > There is no such thing as "Airdrop". 
> > Apple says so themselves.
> > http://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/trademark/appletmlist.html
> > 
> > Just like RCA and ThinkPad are trademarks that are bought and sold among
> > companies (none of which are currently from the "original" RCA or IBM), the
> > word you use is merely a meaningless M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G "adjective" which
> > Apple *bought* on Thursday, July 08, 2010 from another company.
> > 
> > - Apple Officially Acquires ?AirDrop? Trademark
> > http://www.mactrast.com/2011/06/apple-officially-acquires-airdrop-trademark/
> > http://www.trademarkia.com/airdrop-85080406.html
> > 
> > Apple M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G also registered the *logo* on March 7, 2013
> > http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2013/03/apples-airdrop-logo-is-now-a-registered-trademark.html
> > 
> > Where the point is that it's a purely  M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G  tool that, in and
> > of itself, is entirely meaningless (just as "Tylenol", in and of itself, is
> > entirely meaningless and can be used for *anything* J&J wants to use it for
> > just as Techron is used for a ton of unrelated products).
> > 
> > It's  M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G Rod. 
> > Pure unadulterated (and very clever) M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G .
> > 
> > Which means it means nothing. It means whatever Apple MARKETING wants it to
> > mean. And they clearly say it means nothing in and of itself.
> > 
> > The fact is that Apple says you must "include an appropriate generic term
> > after the trademark the first time it appears. Thereafter, the generic term
> > should appear frequently with the trademark." 
> > 
> > This is no different than any other M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G trademark much as
> > Adobe and Ford and Mercury and Techron and Tylenol, etc.
> > 
> > For you to succumb so readily to meaningless M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G is a
> > problem, because M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G's job is to feed you manure and your job
> > is to pay for that manure (while Apple corporate laughs all the way to the
> > bank).
> > 
> > OK. So we've shown that you must always follow the meaningless trademark
> > with meaningful generic functionality.
> > 
> > The generic term for what the AirDrop? "software feature" does is called
> > "ad hoc services":
> >  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirDrop
> >  - The AirDrop? software feature is an ad hoc service.
> > 
> > An ad hoc service is defined here:
> >  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_ad_hoc_network
> >  - Smart phone ad hoc networks leverage the existing hardware (primarily
> > Bluetooth and Wi-Fi) in commercially available smart phones to create
> > peer-to-peer networks without relying on cellular carrier networks,
> > wireless access points, or traditional network infrastructure. SPANs differ
> > from traditional hub and spoke networks, such as Wi-Fi Direct, in that they
> > support multi-hop relays and there is no notion of a group leader so peers
> > can join and leave at will without destroying the network.
> > 
> > *Clearly Android has ad hoc services.*
> 
>   "Android"? WTF, is "Android"? "Android" is just some product/company
> which *Google* bought!
> 
>  So, "the word you use is merely a meaningless M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G "adjective"
> which Google *bought* in 2005 from another company"!
> 
>   I hope that shooting yourself in the feet doesn't hurt too much!
> 
> [...]

  Hmmm, strange! I reckoned the foot in your mouth wouldn't prevent you
from typing/posting. So we have to conclude that you're too much of a
coward to admit your stupidity/defeat! Duly noted.

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#34104

On 10 Sep 2016 19:29:48 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>   Hmmm, strange! I reckoned the foot in your mouth wouldn't prevent you
> from typing/posting. So we have to conclude that you're too much of a
> coward to admit your stupidity/defeat! Duly noted.

You've already proven my point with the lack of *anything* even remotely
meaningful.

Did you miss the ad-hoc services discussion, for example?

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#34124

Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>... oops I mean "Aardvarks"... oops I
mean "Paul M. Cook"... oops I mean "VPN User"... oops I mean "Joe
Clock"... oops I mean "Marob Katon" ...  oops I mean "Chris Rangoon"...
wrote:
> On 10 Sep 2016 19:29:48 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
> >   Hmmm, strange! I reckoned the foot in your mouth wouldn't prevent you
> > from typing/posting. So we have to conclude that you're too much of a
> > coward to admit your stupidity/defeat! Duly noted.
> 
> You've already proven my point with the lack of *anything* even remotely
> meaningful.

  You mean the part that you dishonestly, 'conveniently', silently
snipped, because your *own* words bit you in the bum? I.e. *this* bit:

<repeat>

  "Android"? WTF, is "Android"? "Android" is just some product/company
which *Google* bought!

  So, "the word you use is merely a meaningless M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G
"adjective" which Google *bought* in 2005 from another company"!

  I hope that shooting yourself in the feet doesn't hurt too much!

</repeat>

> Did you miss the ad-hoc services discussion, for example?

  Nope, of course I didn't miss your red herring. If we wouldn't read
your red herrings, we wouldn't/couldn't read anything from you, could
we?

  So tell us, dear post-editor, how is that meaningless M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G
adjective/tool "Android" working for you? Why is Google's "meaningless
M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G" somehow magically better than Apple's?

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#33994

And another braindead, know-nothing anti-Apple troll joins the
killfile. In fact anything cross-posted to Android newsgroup will also
be killfiled since it's only done by moronic trolls anyway.

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#33999

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
> And another braindead, know-nothing anti-Apple troll joins the
> killfile. In fact anything cross-posted to Android newsgroup will also
> be killfiled since it's only done by moronic trolls anyway.

Good idea.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#34116

On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:57:45 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> All of the above are functionality.

You obviously never took a MARKETING class.

You can't even distinguish between a meaningless brand name and actual
FUNCTIONALITY.

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#34118

"Horace Algier" <horatio@horatio.net> wrote in message 
news:nr39gb$am5$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:57:45 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> All of the above are functionality.
>
> You obviously never took a MARKETING class.
>
> You can't even distinguish between a meaningless brand name and actual
> FUNCTIONALITY.

Corse you never actually use that meaningless brand name android yourself, 
eh ?

You're a terminal fuckwit and if you keep this shit up your shit will be 
ignored. 

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#33969

On 2016-09-07 01:04, Horace Algier wrote:
> Can anyone name a single bit of functionality that is "on" iOS that isn't
> already on Android?


- secure credit/debit card transactions (Android merely imitates NFC 
with a copy of the card chip).
- Handover - continue a task on one device handed over from another
- Messages (deeper, much, than SMS, with complete, deep encryption, 
end-to-end that is unassailable).
- Ability to pick up a phone call on one's desktop/laptop from the iPhone
- Secure enclave (fingerprint data, etc.)

More, I'm sure.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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