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Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android?

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android?
Date 2016-09-07 19:23 +0000
Organization NOYB
Message-ID <e3b7qdFosmnU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>... oops I mean "Aardvarks"... oops I
mean "Paul M. Cook"... oops I mean "VPN User"... oops I mean "Joe
Clock"... oops I mean "Marob Katon" ...  oops I mean "Chris Rangoon"...
wrote:

> Let's take "AirDrop? ad hoc services" first.
> 
> There is no such thing as "Airdrop". 
> Apple says so themselves.
> http://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/trademark/appletmlist.html
> 
> Just like RCA and ThinkPad are trademarks that are bought and sold among
> companies (none of which are currently from the "original" RCA or IBM), the
> word you use is merely a meaningless M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G "adjective" which
> Apple *bought* on Thursday, July 08, 2010 from another company.
> 
> - Apple Officially Acquires ?AirDrop? Trademark
> http://www.mactrast.com/2011/06/apple-officially-acquires-airdrop-trademark/
> http://www.trademarkia.com/airdrop-85080406.html
> 
> Apple M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G also registered the *logo* on March 7, 2013
> http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2013/03/apples-airdrop-logo-is-now-a-registered-trademark.html
> 
> Where the point is that it's a purely  M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G  tool that, in and
> of itself, is entirely meaningless (just as "Tylenol", in and of itself, is
> entirely meaningless and can be used for *anything* J&J wants to use it for
> just as Techron is used for a ton of unrelated products).
> 
> It's  M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G Rod. 
> Pure unadulterated (and very clever) M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G .
> 
> Which means it means nothing. It means whatever Apple MARKETING wants it to
> mean. And they clearly say it means nothing in and of itself.
> 
> The fact is that Apple says you must "include an appropriate generic term
> after the trademark the first time it appears. Thereafter, the generic term
> should appear frequently with the trademark." 
> 
> This is no different than any other M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G trademark much as
> Adobe and Ford and Mercury and Techron and Tylenol, etc.
> 
> For you to succumb so readily to meaningless M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G is a
> problem, because M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G's job is to feed you manure and your job
> is to pay for that manure (while Apple corporate laughs all the way to the
> bank).
> 
> OK. So we've shown that you must always follow the meaningless trademark
> with meaningful generic functionality.
> 
> The generic term for what the AirDrop? "software feature" does is called
> "ad hoc services":
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirDrop
>  - The AirDrop? software feature is an ad hoc service.
> 
> An ad hoc service is defined here:
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_ad_hoc_network
>  - Smart phone ad hoc networks leverage the existing hardware (primarily
> Bluetooth and Wi-Fi) in commercially available smart phones to create
> peer-to-peer networks without relying on cellular carrier networks,
> wireless access points, or traditional network infrastructure. SPANs differ
> from traditional hub and spoke networks, such as Wi-Fi Direct, in that they
> support multi-hop relays and there is no notion of a group leader so peers
> can join and leave at will without destroying the network.
> 
> *Clearly Android has ad hoc services.*

  "Android"? WTF, is "Android"? "Android" is just some product/company
which *Google* bought!

 So, "the word you use is merely a meaningless M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G "adjective"
which Google *bought* in 2005 from another company"!

  I hope that shooting yourself in the feet doesn't hurt too much!

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Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 05:04 +0000
  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 15:57 +1000
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 17:15 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:50 +1000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier  <HoraceAlgier@nowhere.com> - 2016-11-01 01:38 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 22:33 -0400
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 02:38 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 22:49 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-01 04:15 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 16:17 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:55 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 00:48 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 12:33 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 06:56 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 00:48 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 12:33 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-01 16:37 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-01 22:24 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 08:32 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-02 16:15 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 22:37 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-03 01:08 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 18:02 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-04 19:57 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 13:09 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:55 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 02:23 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 13:41 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-01 12:25 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? John Carter <me@mymailsvr.org> - 2016-11-12 05:16 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 14:49 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:03 +1100
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 14:30 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:02 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-01 12:25 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 03:21 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 14:51 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 06:58 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 17:00 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 07:09 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Hankat" <hyes342@nospam.com> - 2016-11-04 17:19 +1100
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 03:21 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 14:46 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-04 00:15 -0400
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 02:34 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-04 23:57 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 12:54 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 02:34 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 16:20 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-05 07:10 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 17:54 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-11-05 16:49 -0500
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 06:17 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:35 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 09:42 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 21:01 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 11:57 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 07:23 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:05 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 14:26 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:53 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 15:54 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:33 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 15:51 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 05:11 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:32 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:55 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 09:12 +1100
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 05:19 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:33 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 09:11 +1100
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-07 19:23 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-10 19:29 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 00:27 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-11 15:26 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-09-08 09:13 +1200
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-07 22:21 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-09-07 18:20 -0500
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-09-08 13:21 +1200
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:52 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:34 +1000
  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-07 08:48 -0400
  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2016-09-07 10:46 -0400
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:50 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:32 +1000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:02 +1000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 13:00 -0400
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 17:50 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:46 +1000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-11 11:23 -0400
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-11 14:55 -0400
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:49 +1000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 10:03 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 20:24 +1000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 19:50 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:57 +1000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 06:52 +1000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 13:00 -0400
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:43 +1000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 10:03 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 20:22 +1000
  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-09-10 21:12 -0400
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:48 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-11 11:22 -0400
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000

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