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  Fix Pattern Lock? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-08-09 05:49 -0700
    Re: Fix Pattern Lock? Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-09 23:14 +0200
      Re: Fix Pattern Lock? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-08-09 15:52 -0700
        Re: Fix Pattern Lock? Axel Berger <Axel_Berger@B.Maus.De> - 2015-08-10 02:03 +0200
          Re: Fix Pattern Lock? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-08-09 22:31 -0700
            Re: Fix Pattern Lock? chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 08:50 +0100
              Re: Fix Pattern Lock? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-08-10 01:01 -0700
                Re: Fix Pattern Lock? chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 10:29 +0100
              Re: Fix Pattern Lock? Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-10 09:04 +0100
              Re: Fix Pattern Lock? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 14:01 -0700
                Re: Fix Pattern Lock? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-08-10 14:58 -0700
                  Re: Fix Pattern Lock? "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 15:01 +1200
                  Re: Fix Pattern Lock? Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-11 06:53 +0100
                  Re: Fix Pattern Lock? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 10:35 -0700
                Re: Fix Pattern Lock? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2015-08-10 22:37 -0400
                  Re: Fix Pattern Lock? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:30 -0700
                Re: Fix Pattern Lock? Leviatan <alberto.feSINESTO@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 11:07 +0200
                  Re: Fix Pattern Lock? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:35 -0700
                    Re: Fix Pattern Lock? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-12 17:43 +0100
                      Re: Fix Pattern Lock? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 14:05 -0700
                        Re: Fix Pattern Lock? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-13 05:45 +0100
                Re: Fix Pattern Lock? chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 15:39 +0100
                  Re: Fix Pattern Lock? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:38 -0700
                    Re: Fix Pattern Lock? chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 14:17 +0100
            Re: Fix Pattern Lock? John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 18:17 +0700
              Re: Fix Pattern Lock? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-10 14:00 +0100
                Re: Fix Pattern Lock? John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 06:35 +0700
                  Re: Fix Pattern Lock? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-11 05:25 +0100
                    Re: Fix Pattern Lock? Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-11 06:48 +0100
                    Re: Fix Pattern Lock? John B. <johnbslocomb@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 19:19 +0700
                      Re: Fix Pattern Lock? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-08-11 14:00 +0100
            Re: Fix Pattern Lock? "The Sorceress of Qar" <sorceress@qar.qanar.com> - 2015-08-10 11:08 -0500
            Re: Fix Pattern Lock? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 13:48 -0700
    Re: Fix Pattern Lock? F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-13 13:14 +1000

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#21865 — Fix Pattern Lock?

I picked up a used no-name Android tablet.
Can't find any identifying info on it.
It's pattern locked.

Has three keys.  power, volume up, volume down.
I've tried every possible combination to get into
reset mode.
Just stuck with dark screen and no sign of activity.
Online tutorials seem to disagree on the order of
press/release timing of one or more keys.

Is it likely that the cheapo no-name devices
require something different?

So far, I've not tried the pattern enough to get
it locked up tight.

Seems like the ADB reset might still be an option?
Don't want to download all that stuff if I don't have to.

Suggestions on what I might try?

Thanks, mike

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#21886

mike wrote:
> I picked up a used no-name Android tablet.
> Can't find any identifying info on it.
> It's pattern locked.

Next time get it from the legal owner and in a legal way.

Axel

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#21905

On 8/9/2015 2:14 PM, Axel Berger wrote:
> mike wrote:
>> I picked up a used no-name Android tablet.
>> Can't find any identifying info on it.
>> It's pattern locked.
>
> Next time get it from the legal owner and in a legal way.
>
> Axel
>
It would be more helpful if you'd dispense with the
baseless accusations
and help solve the problem.

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#21907

mike wrote:
> and help solve the problem.

What's there to help? Ask the previous owner for the code.

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#21911

On 8/9/2015 5:03 PM, Axel Berger wrote:
> mike wrote:
>> and help solve the problem.
>
> What's there to help? Ask the previous owner for the code.
>
Actually, I tried to do that, but I couldn't find the
garage sale location the next day.  After a hundred
miles of garage sales, the houses all look a lot alike the
next day.

But, that's not the question.
The question is how do I get into the mode where i can
reset the damn thing?
More googling suggests that maybe the low-end Chinese tablets
can't do reset with the typical combinations of power/volup/voldown
keys.

There might be some complicated ADB methods, but they all seem
to require the phone to be rooted, or at least in developer mode.
It's unlikely that developer mode got set by average joe.

Without any clue as to the tablet vendor or model, yes I took it
apart and there's nothing probative marked on the board,
I can't even flash it...or can I?

Hopefully, someone who is not more interested in badmouthing the
messenger might chime in with some actual help.
It's not about the 25-cents I wasted on it.  It's about the
challenge of learning about Android and keeping it outa the
landfill a while longer.

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#21914

On 10/08/2015 06:31, mike wrote:
> On 8/9/2015 5:03 PM, Axel Berger wrote:
>> mike wrote:
>>> and help solve the problem.
>>
>> What's there to help? Ask the previous owner for the code.
>>
> Actually, I tried to do that, but I couldn't find the
> garage sale location the next day.  After a hundred
> miles of garage sales, the houses all look a lot alike the
> next day.

You need to realise that a lot of people pretend they have bought 
something pre-own/cheap in order to get an answer regarding 
circumventing security procedures.

Gotta ask, why didn't you check it before buying it?

I fear you've wasted your money. These security features are designed to 
be difficult/impossible to circumvent. If anyone could do it after 
'buying' a locked tablet then it wouldn't be much of a lock would it?

> Hopefully, someone who is not more interested in badmouthing the
> messenger might chime in with some actual help.
> It's not about the 25-cents I wasted on it.  It's about the
> challenge of learning about Android and keeping it outa the
> landfill a while longer.

Your $0.25 Android lesson this week has been: don't buy a locked android 
device without also getting the passcode.

You're welcome :)

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#21915

On 8/10/2015 12:50 AM, chris wrote:
> On 10/08/2015 06:31, mike wrote:
>> On 8/9/2015 5:03 PM, Axel Berger wrote:
>>> mike wrote:
>>>> and help solve the problem.
>>>
>>> What's there to help? Ask the previous owner for the code.
>>>
>> Actually, I tried to do that, but I couldn't find the
>> garage sale location the next day.  After a hundred
>> miles of garage sales, the houses all look a lot alike the
>> next day.
>
> You need to realise that a lot of people pretend they have bought
> something pre-own/cheap in order to get an answer regarding
> circumventing security procedures.
>
> Gotta ask, why didn't you check it before buying it?
>
> I fear you've wasted your money. These security features are designed to
> be difficult/impossible to circumvent. If anyone could do it after
> 'buying' a locked tablet then it wouldn't be much of a lock would it?
>
>> Hopefully, someone who is not more interested in badmouthing the
>> messenger might chime in with some actual help.
>> It's not about the 25-cents I wasted on it.  It's about the
>> challenge of learning about Android and keeping it outa the
>> landfill a while longer.
>
> Your $0.25 Android lesson this week has been: don't buy a locked android
> device without also getting the passcode.
>
> You're welcome :)
You could have saved a lot of typing by just admitting that you
don't know or won't help.

Or maybe not pressing that send key at all.
Maybe someone helpful will show up.

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#21918

On 10/08/2015 09:01, mike wrote:
> On 8/10/2015 12:50 AM, chris wrote:
>> On 10/08/2015 06:31, mike wrote:
>>> On 8/9/2015 5:03 PM, Axel Berger wrote:
>>>> mike wrote:
>>>>> and help solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>> What's there to help? Ask the previous owner for the code.
>>>>
>>> Actually, I tried to do that, but I couldn't find the
>>> garage sale location the next day.  After a hundred
>>> miles of garage sales, the houses all look a lot alike the
>>> next day.
>>
>> You need to realise that a lot of people pretend they have bought
>> something pre-own/cheap in order to get an answer regarding
>> circumventing security procedures.
>>
>> Gotta ask, why didn't you check it before buying it?
>>
>> I fear you've wasted your money. These security features are designed to
>> be difficult/impossible to circumvent. If anyone could do it after
>> 'buying' a locked tablet then it wouldn't be much of a lock would it?
>>
>>> Hopefully, someone who is not more interested in badmouthing the
>>> messenger might chime in with some actual help.
>>> It's not about the 25-cents I wasted on it.  It's about the
>>> challenge of learning about Android and keeping it outa the
>>> landfill a while longer.
>>
>> Your $0.25 Android lesson this week has been: don't buy a locked android
>> device without also getting the passcode.
>>
>> You're welcome :)
> You could have saved a lot of typing by just admitting that you
> don't know or won't help.

If you're after the kind of help that requires others to do the work for 
you, you're in the wrong place.

> Or maybe not pressing that send key at all.
> Maybe someone helpful will show up.

Doubtful. You've been to usenet before, right...?

If you are *genuinely* interested in learning about Android, keep your 
money in your pocket, download ADB onto your PC and have a play. It 
comes with it's own device emulator so you don't even need any hardware. 
Win-win.

You're onto a hiding to nowhere with that purchase. There's no guarantee 
it'll ever work. You've had your quarter's worth of fun with it, just 
ditch it.

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#21916

chris wrote:

> Your $0.25 Android lesson this week has been: don't buy a locked android
> device without also getting the passcode.

Given that the O/P knows that the possible ways to bypass security 
include ADB, and claims to want a challenge, it seems that "having to 
download free stuff" is a pretty low hurdle to be put-off by ...

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#21931

On 08/10/2015 12:50 AM, chris wrote:
> On 10/08/2015 06:31, mike wrote:
>> On 8/9/2015 5:03 PM, Axel Berger wrote:
>>> mike wrote:
>>>> and help solve the problem.
>>>
>>> What's there to help? Ask the previous owner for the code.
>>>
>> Actually, I tried to do that, but I couldn't find the
>> garage sale location the next day.  After a hundred
>> miles of garage sales, the houses all look a lot alike the
>> next day.
>
> You need to realise that a lot of people pretend they have bought
> something pre-own/cheap in order to get an answer regarding
> circumventing security procedures.

So?  Are we the morality police?  Why would somebody bother to steal a 
no-name non-working tablet?  OTOH, we went back later in the day to buy 
a $10 yard-sale computer only to find that some jerk had stolen its hard 
drive.

We buy dirt-cheap computers all the time, or at least we used to.  We're 
full up right now.  Some have really nice cases, some have a good power 
supply or motherboard, some have dead drives, but on balance it's a 
useful thing to do if you don't need bleeding-edge hardware.  Right now 
we've got 6 working computers on our home network.  Why?  Because we 
can!  (Not all are running, of course, but they could!)

> Gotta ask, why didn't you check it before buying it?

Stuff at yard sales frequently has dead or missing batteries.  This 
doesn't mean they're bad, it just means you can't prove they work.  You 
make an offer accordingly.  People are really stupid.  If they'd just 
put a couple of AA batteries in the camera they could sell it for a lot 
more than the throwaway price sensible people would be willing to pay.

Most annoying thing -- a camera that worked except for the fact that no 
known sd card fits its slot.  It LOOKED like a normal card hole, but 
wasn't.  I bought what was supposed to be an adapter, but that didn't 
fit either.  You can't win 'em all.

> I fear you've wasted your money. These security features are designed to
> be difficult/impossible to circumvent. If anyone could do it after
> 'buying' a locked tablet then it wouldn't be much of a lock would it?
>
>> Hopefully, someone who is not more interested in badmouthing the
>> messenger might chime in with some actual help.
>> It's not about the 25-cents I wasted on it.  It's about the
>> challenge of learning about Android and keeping it outa the
>> landfill a while longer.
>
> Your $0.25 Android lesson this week has been: don't buy a locked android
> device without also getting the passcode.

Are you one of those people who was so careful with his money that he 
could retire at 40?  Probably not...

-- 
Cheers, Bev
============================================================
Brian (Talking to crowd): You need to be independent minded.
Crowd: We are! We are!
Person in crowd: I'm not!                    -- Monty Python

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#21934

On 8/10/2015 2:01 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 08/10/2015 12:50 AM, chris wrote:
>> On 10/08/2015 06:31, mike wrote:
>>> On 8/9/2015 5:03 PM, Axel Berger wrote:
>>>> mike wrote:
>>>>> and help solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>> What's there to help? Ask the previous owner for the code.
>>>>
>>> Actually, I tried to do that, but I couldn't find the
>>> garage sale location the next day.  After a hundred
>>> miles of garage sales, the houses all look a lot alike the
>>> next day.
>>
>> You need to realise that a lot of people pretend they have bought
>> something pre-own/cheap in order to get an answer regarding
>> circumventing security procedures.
>
> So?  Are we the morality police?  Why would somebody bother to steal a
> no-name non-working tablet?  OTOH, we went back later in the day to buy
> a $10 yard-sale computer only to find that some jerk had stolen its hard
> drive.
>
> We buy dirt-cheap computers all the time, or at least we used to.  We're
> full up right now.

I feel your pain.  I dropped my maximum price limit to $1, and still buy
way more computers than I could ever use.  I hate it when they call my
bluff.  It's hard to get more than a couple on the motorcycle.
Doesn't matter if the price sticker says $50; my initial offer is 
usually 25-cents.
It's amazing how much stuff you can get if you waive a shiny
quarter in front of someone and stand firm.

Some have really nice cases, some have a good power
> supply or motherboard, some have dead drives, but on balance it's a
> useful thing to do if you don't need bleeding-edge hardware.  Right now
> we've got 6 working computers on our home network.  Why?  Because we
> can!  (Not all are running, of course, but they could!)
>
>> Gotta ask, why didn't you check it before buying it?
>
> Stuff at yard sales frequently has dead or missing batteries.  This
> doesn't mean they're bad, it just means you can't prove they work.  You
> make an offer accordingly.  People are really stupid.  If they'd just
> put a couple of AA batteries in the camera they could sell it for a lot
> more than the throwaway price sensible people would be willing to pay.

They always tell you it works.  But, when you press them, you often
find out that it was owned by the father of their hairdresser's 
boyfriend and they have no idea whether it works.

Often, from their viewpoint, it's broke...but only because they
don't know how to blow the cat hair out of the CPU fan or reinstall the 
OS or change a few caps.

I've been known to fix stuff for people right there in their garage.
Or recommend that they could get six times the asking price on ebay.
Sometimes, helping people is far more satisfying than adding yet
another gizmo to the pile of gizmos that I'll never use.
>
> Most annoying thing -- a camera that worked except for the fact that no
> known sd card fits its slot.  It LOOKED like a normal card hole, but
> wasn't.  I bought what was supposed to be an adapter, but that didn't
> fit either.  You can't win 'em all.
>
>> I fear you've wasted your money. These security features are designed to
>> be difficult/impossible to circumvent. If anyone could do it after
>> 'buying' a locked tablet then it wouldn't be much of a lock would it?
>>
>>> Hopefully, someone who is not more interested in badmouthing the
>>> messenger might chime in with some actual help.
>>> It's not about the 25-cents I wasted on it.  It's about the
>>> challenge of learning about Android and keeping it outa the
>>> landfill a while longer.
>>
>> Your $0.25 Android lesson this week has been: don't buy a locked android
>> device without also getting the passcode.
>
> Are you one of those people who was so careful with his money that he
> could retire at 40?  Probably not...
>
Can't speak for him, but I almost made it.  Took me 'till 47 to retire.
That was 20 years ago. Guess I wasn't smart enough to do it at 40.

It really disappoints me when I ask a question and am accused of
being a thief, or too stupid to do a full lab evaluation of something
while standing in someone's garage.  I'm used to it on usenet, but still
disappointed.

Instead of wasting two days of my life googling, it would have been nice
if one of the local knowitalls could have just mentioned that usb was
typically enabled by default on tablets and suggested that I google
"adb shell rm /data/system/gesture.key" and followed one of the many
tutorials on how to do it.  Or mentioned that mytabletguru.com
was a good site to research such stuff.  Nope, too busy with denigration
to be bothered with technical assistance.

Factory reset works from within, once you get access to android.
The tablet now works fine.
It's a crap tablet, but using the metric utility/price, it was a steal.
So, maybe I am a thief after all. ;-)

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#21941

Once upon a time on usenet mike wrote:

[snipped]

> Nope, too busy with
> denigration to be bothered with technical assistance.

It was your protestations that made it 'too busy'. The original post was 
short and easilly ignored.

Methinks you doth protest too much.

> So, maybe I am a thief after all. ;-)

Maybe.
-- 
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy 
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) 

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#21945

mike wrote:

> Instead of wasting two days of my life googling, it would have been nice
> if one of the local knowitalls could have just mentioned that usb was
> typically enabled by default on tablets and suggested that I google
> "adb shell rm /data/system/gesture.key" and followed one of the many
> tutorials on how to do it.

But you said you wanted a challenge ...

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#21962

On 08/10/2015 02:58 PM, mike wrote:
> On 8/10/2015 2:01 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 08/10/2015 12:50 AM, chris wrote:
>>> On 10/08/2015 06:31, mike wrote:
>>>> On 8/9/2015 5:03 PM, Axel Berger wrote:
>>>>> mike wrote:
>>>>>> and help solve the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's there to help? Ask the previous owner for the code.
>>>>>
>>>> Actually, I tried to do that, but I couldn't find the
>>>> garage sale location the next day.  After a hundred
>>>> miles of garage sales, the houses all look a lot alike the
>>>> next day.
>>>
>>> You need to realise that a lot of people pretend they have bought
>>> something pre-own/cheap in order to get an answer regarding
>>> circumventing security procedures.
>>
>> So?  Are we the morality police?  Why would somebody bother to steal a
>> no-name non-working tablet?  OTOH, we went back later in the day to buy
>> a $10 yard-sale computer only to find that some jerk had stolen its hard
>> drive.
>>
>> We buy dirt-cheap computers all the time, or at least we used to.  We're
>> full up right now.
>
> I feel your pain.  I dropped my maximum price limit to $1, and still buy
> way more computers than I could ever use.  I hate it when they call my
> bluff.  It's hard to get more than a couple on the motorcycle.
> Doesn't matter if the price sticker says $50; my initial offer is
> usually 25-cents.
> It's amazing how much stuff you can get if you waive a shiny
> quarter in front of someone and stand firm.

We develop a lot of useful negotiating skills.  I've found that "How 
about a buck for the handful?" is one of the better ploys.  Smile at the 
children and scratch the friendly dogs.  Be nice, even when you want to 
yell AT THAT PRICE PLAN ON BEING BURIED WITH IT!  A friend liked to say 
"I'll come back later, perhaps your widow will be more reasonable" but 
that seemed excessive.

>> Some have really nice cases, some have a good power
>> supply or motherboard, some have dead drives, but on balance it's a
>> useful thing to do if you don't need bleeding-edge hardware.  Right now
>> we've got 6 working computers on our home network.  Why?  Because we
>> can!  (Not all are running, of course, but they could!)
>>
>>> Gotta ask, why didn't you check it before buying it?
>>
>> Stuff at yard sales frequently has dead or missing batteries.  This
>> doesn't mean they're bad, it just means you can't prove they work.  You
>> make an offer accordingly.  People are really stupid.  If they'd just
>> put a couple of AA batteries in the camera they could sell it for a lot
>> more than the throwaway price sensible people would be willing to pay.
>
> They always tell you it works.  But, when you press them, you often
> find out that it was owned by the father of their hairdresser's
> boyfriend and they have no idea whether it works.

Worst case -- THE MINISTER at the church rummage sale assured me that 
the musical keyboard worked so I paid him the $100.  Fortunately it was 
only the power supply, which my son replaced with a computer supply he 
had lying around.

If they say "I don't know" it means "No".  I assume that if I can't 
prove it works, it doesn't.

> Often, from their viewpoint, it's broke...but only because they
> don't know how to blow the cat hair out of the CPU fan or reinstall the
> OS or change a few caps.

My 1960 Ducati was $50 in 1970 because the guy had the timing set 
exactly wrong and it wouldn't start.

> I've been known to fix stuff for people right there in their garage.
> Or recommend that they could get six times the asking price on ebay.
> Sometimes, helping people is far more satisfying than adding yet
> another gizmo to the pile of gizmos that I'll never use.

People really don't want to bother with ebay, and I can understand that. 
  Most people just want to get rid of stuff and MAYBE make some money. 
The annoying ones are the rich people who think that because they paid 
$100 for a sweater in 1985 and didn't wear it much it should be worth 
maybe $30 now.  See "...being buried with it" above.

>>> Your $0.25 Android lesson this week has been: don't buy a locked android
>>> device without also getting the passcode.
>>
>> Are you one of those people who was so careful with his money that he
>> could retire at 40?  Probably not...
>>
> Can't speak for him, but I almost made it.  Took me 'till 47 to retire.
> That was 20 years ago. Guess I wasn't smart enough to do it at 40.

Software by mail.  NO overhead, total profit.  He wrote good 
cross-assemblers for single-chip processors, and all the big-name chip 
manufacturers' salesmen were unpaid sales associates because his cheap 
software meant they could sell tons of chips to small businesses.

> It really disappoints me when I ask a question and am accused of
> being a thief, or too stupid to do a full lab evaluation of something
> while standing in someone's garage.  I'm used to it on usenet, but still
> disappointed.

Never happened.  You must just be a really annoying person.  What I hate 
is when people insist on telling you about their stuff AND KEEP DOING 
IT.  If you make an offer on something they'll say something like 
"That's a toaster."  Yeah, I kind of knew that.  I'm offering you a buck 
for it.  That's what "How a bout a buck?" means.

We were buying an oil filter for 50 cents or something like that.  As we 
were paying, the seller's mom was outraged -- "BUT IT'S NEVER BEEN USED!"

> Instead of wasting two days of my life googling, it would have been nice
> if one of the local knowitalls could have just mentioned that usb was
> typically enabled by default on tablets and suggested that I google
> "adb shell rm /data/system/gesture.key" and followed one of the many
> tutorials on how to do it.  Or mentioned that mytabletguru.com
> was a good site to research such stuff.  Nope, too busy with denigration
> to be bothered with technical assistance.
>
> Factory reset works from within, once you get access to android.
> The tablet now works fine.
> It's a crap tablet, but using the metric utility/price, it was a steal.
> So, maybe I am a thief after all. ;-)

It's not thievery if both parties agree on the price.  Sometimes it's a 
gray area.

We were interested in a yellow Fluke voltmeter (they were relatively new 
at the time).  We asked the wife "How much?"  She yelled out to her 
husband "How much for this thing?"  "FIFTY!"  "Fifty cents."  We gave 
her two quarters and got the hell out of there.  Dark gray, actually.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
====================================
If god had wanted me to bend over he would
have sprinkled the floor with diamonds.

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#21940

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:01:15 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:

>  worked except for the fact that no 
> known sd card fits its slot.

Maybe a "Smart Media" card slot? HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp
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#21979

On 08/10/2015 07:37 PM, tlvp wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:01:15 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>>  worked except for the fact that no
>> known sd card fits its slot.
>
> Maybe a "Smart Media" card slot? HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp

Could be, I gave up a couple of years ago.  The manual said what it was 
supposed to be, but it wasn't.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "It's important to never be arrogant. Especially if you're one
    of the little people whose opinion doesn't matter."     --Rat

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#21949

A The Real Bev se le ha ocurrido que:

> Most annoying thing -- a camera that worked except for the fact that no known 
> sd card fits its slot.  It LOOKED like a normal card hole, but wasn't.  I 
> bought what was supposed to be an adapter, but that didn't fit either.  You 
> can't win 'em all.

There are two options here...  it can be a MMC card slot (they have the 
same size as SD's, but are thinner). Or something may be stuck inside 
the slot, a pin bent...

-- 
Un saludo,
Alberto

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#21980

On 08/11/2015 02:07 AM, Leviatan wrote:
> A The Real Bev se le ha ocurrido que:
>
>> Most annoying thing -- a camera that worked except for the fact that no known
>> sd card fits its slot.  It LOOKED like a normal card hole, but wasn't.  I
>> bought what was supposed to be an adapter, but that didn't fit either.  You
>> can't win 'em all.
>
> There are two options here...  it can be a MMC card slot (they have the
> same size as SD's, but are thinner). Or something may be stuck inside
> the slot, a pin bent...

I'd never thought of something like that :-(  Fortunately I have other 
cameras.  The one on my phone is pretty good -- not as sharp as I'd 
like, but good enough.  Whenever I see a lovely DSLR I think "Ooooh, I 
want one of those" until I remember how heavy and cumbersome they are. 
BTDT -- I used to use a Speed Graphic with a roll back when the children 
were little in the 1960s;  I've paid my dues :-)

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "It's important to never be arrogant. Especially if you're one
    of the little people whose opinion doesn't matter."     --Rat

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#21983

On 12/08/2015 16:35, The Real Bev wrote:
[]
> I'd never thought of something like that :-(  Fortunately I have other
> cameras.  The one on my phone is pretty good -- not as sharp as I'd
> like, but good enough.  Whenever I see a lovely DSLR I think "Ooooh, I
> want one of those" until I remember how heavy and cumbersome they are.
> BTDT -- I used to use a Speed Graphic with a roll back when the children
> were little in the 1960s;  I've paid my dues :-)

Consider a micro-four-thirds (MFT) camera instead.  Excellent 
performance, good range of lenses, and a delight to carry.  No mirror 
increasing the bulk and lenses are beautifully light weight.  I have the 
Panasonic GX7, but there are lower-cost models as well.  In the bag 
where I user to have just the APS-C format DSLR, I now have camera, 
14-140 mm zoom (eq. 28-280), 9-18 wide-angle zoom (eq. 18-36 mm) and 9 
mm fisheye.

-- 
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

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#21994

On 08/12/2015 09:43 AM, David Taylor wrote:
> On 12/08/2015 16:35, The Real Bev wrote:
> []
>> I'd never thought of something like that :-(  Fortunately I have other
>> cameras.  The one on my phone is pretty good -- not as sharp as I'd
>> like, but good enough.  Whenever I see a lovely DSLR I think "Ooooh, I
>> want one of those" until I remember how heavy and cumbersome they are.
>> BTDT -- I used to use a Speed Graphic with a roll back when the children
>> were little in the 1960s;  I've paid my dues :-)
>
> Consider a micro-four-thirds (MFT) camera instead.  Excellent
> performance, good range of lenses, and a delight to carry.  No mirror
> increasing the bulk and lenses are beautifully light weight.  I have the
> Panasonic GX7, but there are lower-cost models as well.  In the bag
> where I user to have just the APS-C format DSLR, I now have camera,
> 14-140 mm zoom (eq. 28-280), 9-18 wide-angle zoom (eq. 18-36 mm) and 9
> mm fisheye.

As soon as I read 'bag' I tuned out!  Pocket-size.  Period.  I'm not 
good enough to expend the energy required to deal with a GOOD camera. 
Repeat:  BTDT.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
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mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."
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