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| Started by | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| First post | 2024-09-30 17:28 +0100 |
| Last post | 2024-10-10 21:09 -0400 |
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Paid apps Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-09-30 17:28 +0100
Re: Paid apps Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-09-30 20:17 +0000
Re: Paid apps VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-09-30 18:23 -0500
Re: Paid apps Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-10-01 07:07 +0100
Re: Paid apps VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-10-01 02:06 -0500
Re: Paid apps Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-10-01 21:21 +0000
Re: Paid apps "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-01 23:31 +0200
Re: Paid apps Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-10-02 01:49 +0000
Re: Paid apps "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-02 13:22 +0200
Re: Paid apps micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-10-17 11:58 -0400
Re: Paid apps Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-10-02 05:06 +0100
Re: Paid apps "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-02 13:07 +0200
Re: Paid apps Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-10-02 18:52 +0000
Re: Paid apps Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-10-02 20:04 +0100
Re: Paid apps Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-10-02 19:58 +0100
Re: Paid apps "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-02 13:37 +0200
Re: Paid apps Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-10-02 13:19 +0100
Re: Paid apps "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-02 14:51 +0200
Re: Paid apps Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-10-02 19:08 +0000
Re: Paid apps Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-10-02 20:32 +0100
Re: Paid apps Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-10-02 19:46 +0000
Re: Paid apps micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-10-16 01:31 -0400
Re: Paid apps Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-10-02 19:03 +0000
Re: Paid apps VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-10-02 07:31 -0500
Re: Paid apps "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-02 14:59 +0200
Re: Paid apps Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-10-02 13:43 +0000
Re: Paid apps "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-02 18:39 +0200
Re: Paid apps Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-10-02 19:27 +0000
Re: Paid apps Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-10-02 19:27 +0000
Re: Paid apps Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-10-02 19:11 +0000
Re: Paid apps Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-10-02 18:58 +0000
Re: Paid apps sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2024-10-17 21:14 -0700
Re: Paid apps Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-10-02 14:09 +0100
Re: Paid apps "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-10-02 18:44 +0200
Re: Paid apps Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-10-02 18:18 +0100
Re: Paid apps Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2024-10-10 21:09 -0400
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| From | Andrew <andrew@spam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-10-02 19:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vdk7tq$1vet$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #143612 |
Andy Burns wrote on Wed, 2 Oct 2024 20:32:37 +0100 : >> Let's hope Google hasn't messed with this, as I don't even have the Google >> Play Store package installed > > Seems sensible that they have side-loading turned off by default, but > beyond that I don't want google deciding what I can or can't install. I agree, as I don't think Google will turn off what you call side loading (and which I refer to as "normal loading"), especially as the phone works just fine without the Google Play Store app installed (as I install from the Google Play Store repository every day without the Google Play Store app involved). So I'm not worried that Google will make normal loading impossible; they'll just make it extra button presses so that it can't be done accidentally. What I am worried about is Google wants developers to provide only the code for a specific device and not for all devices, which bothers me because I save all the APKs I download and re-use them on plenty of phones over time. But if the package downloaded from the Google Play Store repository is only for, oh, say, a Samsung with the MediaTek CPU, it might not work on, oh say, a Samsung with the Qualcomm CPU. Since all my Android APK downloads and installs are done from Windows, I have started to prefix each APK with the origin, e.g., google_app.name.apk fdroid_app.name.apk githug_app.name.apk Where the Google ones will be suspect if they're only for my specific type of phone. They may or may not work on, oh, say, a Pixel, whereas the other two will work (as I always download the larger universal apk from Github).
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> |
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| Date | 2024-10-16 01:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5hjugjd6bp3elp201oam0dd8m2a7sj8q73@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #143591 |
In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 2 Oct 2024 14:51:43 +0200, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >On 2024-10-02 14:19, Andy Burns wrote: >> Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> some of these apps have a free version in the Play Store, and some >>> times another one in F-Droid; but they are not the exact same one. >> >> I gather google is moving to enforce install of apps from the play store >> if you try to sideload them, or load them from alternate stores? > >Not exactly. What I read is that you can not install one way and update >the other. And developers can choose to block different install methods. It seems fair to let them do that. Carlos, of the people I know, you seem most likely to be able to answer a personal question (about Spain and geography) and if you want, you could send me your email address. (Delete NONONO from mine.) Or I can just ask here. I don't mind that, but it is off-topic. Micky ><https://www.xataka.com/aplicaciones/nuevo-android-duro-golpe-a-apks-instalas-app-google-play-store-no-usas> > >It is in Spanish, so you need a translator tool. > > >*The new thing about Android is a hard blow to APKs: either you install >the app from the Google Play Store or you don't use it* > > Play Integrity will allow the developer to verify whether or not >the app has been installed from the Google Play Store > The system allows you to block the use of the app until it has been >updated from the official Android store > >One of the things that has characterized, and characterizes, Android has >been the possibility of installing applications from third-party sources >. Simply install the APK file to have an application like WhatsApp >working normally. But like everything in this life, there are sources >and sources. Some are legitimate, others are not so much. An APK of >uncertain origins can work against both the user and the developer, so >Google Play has launched a function to put a stop to it. > >The problem . There are several reasons why a user may prefer to install >an app via APK instead of through the Google Play Store. There are as >many reasons as there are reasons a developer can have for not doing so. >Let's think, for example, that an installation made via APK does not >count for the metrics in Google Play. Perhaps the user is installing an >outdated version, not optimized for their device or, why not, a modified >version to offer functions that, in another context, would be paid for. >This can harm both parties involved, user and developer. > >... continues on link. > >> >> Not seen it in practice, because pixels haven't been given Android 15 >> upgrades yet :-( >>
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| From | Andrew <andrew@spam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-10-02 19:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vdk5dg$lm1$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #143589 |
Andy Burns wrote on Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:19:14 +0100 : > I gather google is moving to enforce install of apps from the play store > if you try to sideload them, or load them from alternate stores? Google is a monopoly on Android, so they "might" do that, but I think all Google is going to do is make it more steps to load apps from outside the Google Play Store repository. Google wants to follow the (brilliant) marketing of Apple that if you only load from the mothership store, then that's the *only* way to feel safe. It's a brilliant marketing strategy because plenty of people want to feel safe, and each time an app is installed from outside the mothership stores, they lose their commission (which is appreciable at something like 30% initially). In summary, I do not predict that Google will *prevent* what you call side loading (I hate that term as it's just normal loading) - they'll just make it more steps. Time will tell...
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2024-10-02 07:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <19zv2i8tu2v90.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #143587 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > Andy Burns wrote: > >> As google are offering me 95% off a item from the play store, has anyone >> got any recommendations for paid for apps (not games/films)? >> >> I can't think of any I've been putting-off buying ... > > Apps I have paid for: > > OsmAnd+ — Maps & GPS Offline > ... > > Yes, some of these apps have a free version in the Play Store, and some > times another one in F-Droid; but they are not the exact same one. And > people like OsmAnd deserve the contribution. I thought the map data at OSM was crowd-sourced? https://www.openstreetmap.org/about "OpenStreetMap is built by a community of mappers that contribute and maintain data about roads, trails, cafés, railway stations, and much more, all over the world." https://www.openstreetmap.org/communities Those contributing to the map data aren't getting any part of the donation (or is it a subscription?). However, OSMand did provide the interface and server to access all that crowd-sourced map data. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmand.plus $39.99 Yowser, that is a very pricey app, and still has in-app purchases (ranging from $0.99 to $74.99). With a 6 GBP ($7.97 USD) limit on the 95% discount that Andy got (he must buy a lot more at the Play Store than me), the OSM+ app would cost $32.02 USD, and that would only be for the first subscription period. Still very pricey. At the above Play Store app page, after clicking "About app" to get more info, it says: Paid features: OsmAnd Pro (subscription) • OsmAnd Cloud (backup and restore); • Cross-platform; • Hourly map updates; • Weather plugin; • Elevation widget; • Customise route line; • External sensors support (ANT+, Bluetooth); • Online Elevation profile. Subscription? You have to pay $39.99 every year? Ouch! For maps, I'll stick with Google Maps (which also has offline maps, but only for a limited region) and Here [WeGo] offline maps (developed by Nokia, sold in 2015 to a German automotive consortium). Both are 100% free, and neither are subscriptionware.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-10-02 14:59 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nmsvskx5h9.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #143590 |
On 2024-10-02 14:31, VanguardLH wrote: > "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> Andy Burns wrote: >> >>> As google are offering me 95% off a item from the play store, has anyone >>> got any recommendations for paid for apps (not games/films)? >>> >>> I can't think of any I've been putting-off buying ... >> >> Apps I have paid for: >> >> OsmAnd+ — Maps & GPS Offline >> ... >> >> Yes, some of these apps have a free version in the Play Store, and some >> times another one in F-Droid; but they are not the exact same one. And >> people like OsmAnd deserve the contribution. > > I thought the map data at OSM was crowd-sourced? Certainly. But the apps to view the maps can be payware. OsmAND limits the number of maps to 10, I think. Or limits maps updates. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/about > "OpenStreetMap is built by a community of mappers that contribute and > maintain data about roads, trails, cafés, railway stations, and much > more, all over the world." > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/communities > > Those contributing to the map data aren't getting any part of the > donation (or is it a subscription?). However, OSMand did provide the > interface and server to access all that crowd-sourced map data. > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmand.plus > $39.99 I don't think I paid that much. Ah, google says I paid €8.99. Maybe it is a different version, mine does not update the map until I manually do so. > > Yowser, that is a very pricey app, and still has in-app purchases > (ranging from $0.99 to $74.99). With a 6 GBP ($7.97 USD) limit on the > 95% discount that Andy got (he must buy a lot more at the Play Store > than me), the OSM+ app would cost $32.02 USD, and that would only be for > the first subscription period. Still very pricey. > > At the above Play Store app page, after clicking "About app" to get more > info, it says: > > Paid features: > > OsmAnd Pro (subscription) > • OsmAnd Cloud (backup and restore); > • Cross-platform; > • Hourly map updates; > • Weather plugin; > • Elevation widget; > • Customise route line; > • External sensors support (ANT+, Bluetooth); > • Online Elevation profile. > > Subscription? You have to pay $39.99 every year? Ouch! Mine is certainly not a subscription. One time purchase, update (manually) for ever. > > For maps, I'll stick with Google Maps (which also has offline maps, but > only for a limited region) and Here [WeGo] offline maps (developed by > Nokia, sold in 2015 to a German automotive consortium). Both are 100% > free, and neither are subscriptionware. OsmAnd (not '+') is free. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-10-02 13:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vdjpku.u0k.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #143590 |
VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote: > "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: [...] > > Apps I have paid for: > > > > OsmAnd+ ? Maps & GPS Offline > > ... > > > > Yes, some of these apps have a free version in the Play Store, and some > > times another one in F-Droid; but they are not the exact same one. And > > people like OsmAnd deserve the contribution. > > I thought the map data at OSM was crowd-sourced? Yes, the *data* is crowd-sourced, but how the data is used and presented is up to the developer. The data and presentation in OsmAnd[+] is a super-superset of what is available at the <https://www.openstreetmap.org> website. [...] > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmand.plus > $39.99 > > Yowser, that is a very pricey app, and still has in-app purchases > (ranging from $0.99 to $74.99). Yes, it has become much more expensive over time. Carlos mentioned he payed way less (8.99 Euro). So did I, 5.99 Euro at the end of 2014. > With a 6 GBP ($7.97 USD) limit on the > 95% discount that Andy got (he must buy a lot more at the Play Store > than me), the OSM+ app would cost $32.02 USD, and that would only be for > the first subscription period. Still very pricey. No. The price is the purchase price, not the price of the optional subscription. Your mixing up OsmAnd+ - *Plus*, the product - and OsmAnd Pro - *Pro*, the subscription. As noted both Carlos and I - and probably the majority of users - use the base (purchased) product, without any other in-app purchases or/and subscription. I use OsmAnd+ on multiple devices (only one purchase per Google Account). [Lots deleted.] > Subscription? You have to pay $39.99 every year? Ouch! No. See above. > For maps, I'll stick with Google Maps (which also has offline maps, but > only for a limited region) and Here [WeGo] offline maps (developed by > Nokia, sold in 2015 to a German automotive consortium). Both are 100% > free, and neither are subscriptionware. I mainly use OsmAnd+. For serious navigation, especially in remote areas (in our case rural/outback/remote Australia), there's really no feasible alternative. But for most people, in 'civilized' areas, Google Maps and HERE WeGo are perfectly fine as well. (I used Google Maps in urban areas of Australia, to find certain shops, Maccas :-), etc.). [...]
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-10-02 18:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ei90tkxd57.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #143594 |
On 2024-10-02 15:43, Frank Slootweg wrote: > VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote: >> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > [...] >>> Apps I have paid for: >>> >>> OsmAnd+ ? Maps & GPS Offline >>> ... >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmand.plus >> $39.99 >> >> Yowser, that is a very pricey app, and still has in-app purchases >> (ranging from $0.99 to $74.99). > > Yes, it has become much more expensive over time. Carlos mentioned he > payed way less (8.99 Euro). So did I, 5.99 Euro at the end of 2014. And really, the current price seems excessive to me. ... > [Lots deleted.] > >> Subscription? You have to pay $39.99 every year? Ouch! > > No. See above. > >> For maps, I'll stick with Google Maps (which also has offline maps, but >> only for a limited region) and Here [WeGo] offline maps (developed by >> Nokia, sold in 2015 to a German automotive consortium). Both are 100% >> free, and neither are subscriptionware. > > I mainly use OsmAnd+. For serious navigation, especially in remote > areas (in our case rural/outback/remote Australia), there's really no > feasible alternative. > > But for most people, in 'civilized' areas, Google Maps and HERE WeGo > are perfectly fine as well. (I used Google Maps in urban areas of > Australia, to find certain shops, Maccas :-), etc.). There are areas in Spain without phone coverage. Spain is very mountainous, so a natural park, where few people live, gets little attention from companies. And a natural park is an area one wants to go with a map. > > [...] -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Andrew <andrew@spam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-10-02 19:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vdk6rk$19vb$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #143597 |
Carlos E.R. wrote on Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:39:10 +0200 : > There are areas in Spain without phone coverage. Spain is very > mountainous, so a natural park, where few people live, gets little > attention from companies. And a natural park is an area one wants to go > with a map. On that topic of offline maps for geolocating yourself in a national park, here are about 250 state and national parks in the USA, where EVERY ONE has a georeferenced PDF that you can download for free and load into a free mapping and routing program such as Avenza or Paper Maps. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trailheadlabs.outerspatial
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| From | Andrew <andrew@spam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-10-02 19:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vdk6rn$19vb$2@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #143594 |
Frank Slootweg wrote on 2 Oct 2024 13:43:28 GMT : > I mainly use OsmAnd+. For serious navigation, especially in remote > areas (in our case rural/outback/remote Australia), there's really no > feasible alternative. For anywhere other than the USA, I'm sure what Frank says is correct, but for the USA, you cannot get better offline maps for backcountry hiking than the USGS geoPDFs, which plenty of map programs (e.g., Avenza, PaperMaps, etc.) treat just like the OSM database is treated by OSMAnd(whatever). Specifically the isocline lines in the offline OSM maps are atrociously inaccurate, but if you're only following a trail, they'll work fine. Conversely, the smaller creeks (the kind you can hop over) are MUCH BETTER shown in the OSM database than in the USGS geoPDF 1:24000 quadrangles. Hence, when I'm backcountry hiking, I have to use *both* to navigate. Also the spoken navigation for walking in the OSMAnd~ program is excellent. > But for most people, in 'civilized' areas, Google Maps and HERE WeGo > are perfectly fine as well. (I used Google Maps in urban areas of > Australia, to find certain shops, Maccas :-), etc.). I agree with Frank that in the civilized areas, Google Maps is as good as it gets, although you have to be careful to create one-tap shortcuts to turn off all the location tracking that Google Maps forces you to turn on (which upload even when your wifi is turned off - which is sneaky of them). In one case the offline OSMAnd~ program is BETTER than Google, and that is when you're walking between buildings - such as apartment complexes or shopping malls - where I find the offline OSMAnd~ does a much better job of directing a pedestrian than does even the online Google Maps tools. The main reason not to use Google Maps is that you have to turn on precise location (even though it's not needed) and you often end up turning on Wi-Fi Scanning for Google (which doesn't help you - it uploads to Google).
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| From | Andrew <andrew@spam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-10-02 19:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vdk5to$org$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #143590 |
VanguardLH wrote on Wed, 2 Oct 2024 07:31:53 -0500 : > Paid features: > > OsmAnd Pro (subscription) > * OsmAnd Cloud (backup and restore); > * Cross-platform; > * Hourly map updates; > * Weather plugin; > * Elevation widget; > * Customise route line; > * External sensors support (ANT+, Bluetooth); > * Online Elevation profile. > > Subscription? You have to pay $39.99 every year? Ouch! I wonder what they mean by "cross platform"? And why would anyone need most of those things? Cloud? For what? Hourly updates? C'mon. Weather plugin? Sure, but there are weather apps. Elevation widget? Not sure what it does. Customize route line? You can do that with other apps. Online elevation profile? For what? I'd use the free OSMAnd~ instead.
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| From | Andrew <andrew@spam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-10-02 18:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vdk556$bsp$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #143587 |
Carlos E.R. wrote on Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:37:51 +0200 : > OsmAnd+ �X Maps & GPS Offline > Simple Gallery Pro (Simple Mobile Tool) I have both of these, but from F-Droid but bear in mind Simple Tools was sold, so the apps on F-Droid may or may not be updated anymore. *OsmAnd+ Maps & GPS Offline by OsmAnd, FOSS <https://f-droid.org/repo/net.osmand.plus_431203.apk> <https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.osmand.plus/> <https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmand.plus> <https://www.amazon.com/OsmAnd-Maps-Navigation/dp/B00D0SA8I8> <https://i.postimg.cc/k440PXgJ/osmand01.jpg> OSMAnd+ manual map updates *Simple Gallery Pro* by Simple Mobile Tools free, ad free, gsf free, 4.3 star 118K reviews 1M+ Downloads <https://www.simplemobiletools.com/> <https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.simplemobiletools.gallery.pro/> <https://f-droid.org/repo/com.simplemobiletools.gallery.pro_385.apk> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplemobiletools.gallery.pro> > Yes, some of these apps have a free version in the Play Store, and some > times another one in F-Droid; but they are not the exact same one. And > people like OsmAnd deserve the contribution. Just for the record, Carlos and I have had this discussion before, and I openly admit that Carlos is insistent that the OSMAnd+ on the Google Play Store is materially different from the OSMAnd~ source on F-Droid. I disagree. So just for the record, I see what Carlos wrote above, and I understand that Carlos feels the apps are materially different, but I do not. As far as I'm aware, Carlos hasn't used the free version and I haven't used the payware version - so we're both going only on what we find in print. If someone *else* can prove either way, that would be a useful discussion, but not Carlos, nor me, as we've more than once reached an impasse on it.
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| From | sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-10-17 21:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vesnbs$34qca$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #143587 |
On 10/2/2024 4:37 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2024-09-30 18:28, Andy Burns wrote: >> As google are offering me 95% off a item from the play store, has >> anyone got any recommendations for paid for apps (not games/films)? >> >> I can't think of any I've been putting-off buying ... > > Apps I have paid for: > > OsmAnd+ — Maps & GPS Offline > Contour lines plugin — OsmAnd > The Photographer's Ephemeris (Crookneck Consulting LLC) > Simple Gallery Pro (Simple Mobile Tool) > Sleep as Android from Petr Nálevka (Urbandroid) > > > Yes, some of these apps have a free version in the Play Store, and some > times another one in F-Droid; but they are not the exact same one. And > people like OsmAnd deserve the contribution. I've also paid for OsmAnd+. Some other apps I've paid for: • TorquePro $4.95 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.prowl.torque> • Music Folder Player non-ad version $1.59 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.zorillasoft.musicfolderplayer.donate> -- “If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards
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| From | Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> |
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| Date | 2024-10-02 14:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vdjgm8$38c42$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #143561 |
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> Wrote in message: > As google are offering me 95% off a item from the play store, has anyone > got any recommendations for paid for apps (not games/films)? > > I can't think of any I've been putting-off buying ... David Zemsky's Sheet Music Scanner is very good ... if scanninng sheet music is something you want to do. I think that's the most expensive app I have. PlayScore2 is better but costs a lot more for the good features. -- Remove numerics from my email address.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-10-02 18:44 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <bs90tkxsmb.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #143593 |
On 2024-10-02 15:09, Dave Royal wrote:
> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> Wrote in message:
>
>> As google are offering me 95% off a item from the play store, has anyone
>> got any recommendations for paid for apps (not games/films)?
>>
>> I can't think of any I've been putting-off buying ...
>
> David Zemsky's Sheet Music Scanner is very good ... if scanninng
> sheet music is something you want to do. I think that's the most
> expensive app I have.
>
> PlayScore2 is better but costs a lot more for the good features.
I have scores I would like to scan, but they are difficult to read by
the eye. If the tool is expensive, then I'm not interested: I'm curious
about what music my ancestor wrote, but I can not play it myself.
He used this:
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It is difficult to figure out the number of extra lines, and whether it
is on a line, or below the line.
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Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> |
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| Date | 2024-10-02 18:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vdjv9k$3ajit$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #143598 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message: > On 2024-10-02 15:09, Dave Royal wrote: >> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> Wrote in message: >> >>> As google are offering me 95% off a item from the play store, has anyone >>> got any recommendations for paid for apps (not games/films)? >>> >>> I can't think of any I've been putting-off buying ... >> >> David Zemsky's Sheet Music Scanner is very good ... if scanninng >> sheet music is something you want to do. I think that's the most >> expensive app I have. >> >> PlayScore2 is better but costs a lot more for the good features. > > I have scores I would like to scan, but they are difficult to read by > the eye. If the tool is expensive, then I'm not interested: I'm curious > about what music my ancestor wrote, but I can not play it myself. > > > He used this: > > -o- > --- > --- > ------- > ------- > ------- > ------- > ------- > > It is difficult to figure out the number of extra lines, and whether it > is on a line, or below the line. Sheet Music Scanner does not work well with hand-written (manuscript) scores. Can you post a link to a scan or photograph of a sample? I don't remember how much it cost. This is a 10" tablet, btw: it probably wouldn't be much use on a small phone. -- Remove numerics from my email address.
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| From | Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-10-10 21:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB207D74B5A0CCnilch1@wheedledeedle.moc> |
| In reply to | #143561 |
On 30 Sep 2024, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in comp.mobile.android: > As google are offering me 95% off a item from the play store, has > anyone got any recommendations for paid for apps (not > games/films)? > > I can't think of any I've been putting-off buying ... I highly approve of "Podcast Addict", a very full-featured podcast aggregator. Although you can run it with all features enabled (I think) with a few unobtrusive ads, I wanted to reward the developer by paying is small asking price. Another of my most-used, most-liked apps is the audio player "MediaMonkey". I like its interface a lot - it just seems to work in a way that's compatible with my brain - but it also works with MediaMonkey for Windows to allow me to pretty-seamlessly sync the music library on my desktop with my phone. I payed for it to enable a couple of features that are crippled in the free version, mostly the ability to stream from a DLNA server on my network.
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