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What's your favorite email app?

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First post2016-07-25 15:02 -0400
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  What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-25 15:02 -0400
    Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 12:56 -0700
      Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-25 16:01 -0400
        Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 13:56 -0700
          Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 17:16 -0400
            Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 23:30 +0200
          Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-25 18:58 -0400
            Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 20:25 -0700
              Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 23:42 -0400
              Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-26 01:13 -0400
                Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 01:21 -0400
                  Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 07:29 +0200
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 01:39 -0400
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:44 +0200
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 07:34 +0000
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 09:50 -0400
                          Re: What's your favorite email app? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-26 13:45 -0400
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 13:57 -0400
                              Re: What's your favorite email app? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-26 11:14 -0700
                                Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 14:30 -0400
                                  Re: What's your favorite email app? Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-26 11:51 -0700
                                    Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 14:55 -0400
                                    Re: What's your favorite email app? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-26 19:52 +0000
                                      Re: What's your favorite email app? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-27 02:45 -0400
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-26 18:50 +0000
                              Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 14:55 -0400
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 02:08 -0400
                              Re: What's your favorite email app? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-31 03:32 -0400
                                Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-31 11:12 -0400
                                Re: What's your favorite email app? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 17:36 -0400
                          Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 22:45 +0200
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 23:25 -0400
                  Re: What's your favorite email app? Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-07-26 17:42 +0100
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 13:04 -0400
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-26 13:48 -0400
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-26 18:30 +0000
                Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 22:59 -0700
                  Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-26 02:40 -0400
                  Re: What's your favorite email app? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-26 05:09 -0400
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 09:50 -0400
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-26 13:50 -0400
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 13:57 -0400
                Re: What's your favorite email app? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-26 05:02 -0400
                  Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 09:50 -0400
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-07-27 01:19 +1000
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 11:24 -0400
                  Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:55 -0700
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 12:44 -0400
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-26 13:18 -0400
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 11:51 -0700
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 14:55 -0400
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-26 15:49 -0400
                          Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 15:55 -0400
                          Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 08:59 -0700
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-27 12:26 -0400
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-27 12:52 -0400
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-08-03 23:57 +0100
                              Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 16:06 -0700
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-07-27 11:02 +0100
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 09:11 -0700
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-27 12:26 -0400
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-27 16:58 +0000
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-07-28 10:32 +0100
                          Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 07:58 -0700
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-28 11:07 -0400
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-07-28 17:43 +0100
                              Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 20:55 -0700
                                Re: What's your favorite email app? Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-07-29 12:37 +0100
                            Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-28 13:35 -0400
                              Re: What's your favorite email app? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-28 13:38 -0400
          Re: What's your favorite email app? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 01:55 -0400
            Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-31 02:12 -0400
            Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 00:14 -0700
    Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 22:58 +0200
      Re: What's your favorite email app? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-07-26 00:24 +0200
        Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-25 18:35 -0400
          Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 07:16 +0200
          Re: What's your favorite email app? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-07-26 22:43 +0200
            Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-26 17:11 -0400
    Re: What's your favorite email app? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-26 00:10 -0500
      Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 07:23 +0200
        Re: What's your favorite email app? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-26 00:32 -0500
          Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 23:01 -0700
            Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:50 +0200
              Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:49 -0700
                Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 22:26 +0200
                  Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 09:04 -0700
                    Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 21:45 +0200
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-27 19:55 +0000
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 20:15 -0700
                          Re: What's your favorite email app? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-28 19:04 +0000
                      Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-27 17:15 -0400
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 20:19 -0700
                        Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 07:23 +0200
          Re: What's your favorite email app? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:48 +0200
      Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-26 02:03 -0400
        Re: What's your favorite email app? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 07:38 +0000
          Re: What's your favorite email app? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2016-07-26 13:12 -0400
        Re: What's your favorite email app? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-26 04:58 -0500

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#32717 — What's your favorite email app?

FromNil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
Date2016-07-25 15:02 -0400
SubjectWhat's your favorite email app?
Message-ID<XnsA65098FAD6F54nilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>
I've been using K9 mail for some years, but I've been having trouble 
with it lately (*) and need to find a replacement. What is your 
preferred Android email client?

I'm looking at I'm current trying out Blue Mail. I think it's too 
"blingy" and cluttered, and the reviews imply that it's a battery suck. 
What else should I look at?


(*) In K9, when I follow a URL in an email and then return from the web 
browser (Chrome) or Youtube app, K9 crashes. I want to find another 
email client, which will hopefully cure the problem. Blue Mail does, 
indeed, seem to fix the issue, though I'm not sure if I like the app.

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#32722

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-25 12:56 -0700
Message-ID<nn5qtr$gs5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32717
On 07/25/2016 12:02 PM, Nil wrote:
> I've been using K9 mail for some years, but I've been having trouble
> with it lately (*) and need to find a replacement. What is your
> preferred Android email client?
>
> I'm looking at I'm current trying out Blue Mail. I think it's too
> "blingy" and cluttered, and the reviews imply that it's a battery suck.
> What else should I look at?
>
> (*) In K9, when I follow a URL in an email and then return from the web
> browser (Chrome) or Youtube app, K9 crashes. I want to find another
> email client, which will hopefully cure the problem. Blue Mail does,
> indeed, seem to fix the issue, though I'm not sure if I like the app.

I use Blue Mail because it allows me to download mail at will rather 
than syncing my accounts, which I NEVER want to do.  I couldn't get K9 
to do that, but somebody said that I was doing it wrong;  even so, I 
didn't bother to try it again.  I don't use it often enough that battery 
suckage is a problem (just when I'm away from home and want to send 
email and maybe get an answer back).  I use Shut App to shut everything 
down -- this seems to be the only app I've found that actually does that.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    Ride faster, I hear banjo music!

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#32723

FromNil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
Date2016-07-25 16:01 -0400
Message-ID<XnsA650A2FBB4F5Anilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>
In reply to#32722
On 25 Jul 2016, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in
comp.mobile.android: 

> I use Blue Mail because it allows me to download mail at will
> rather than syncing my accounts, which I NEVER want to do.  I
> couldn't get K9 to do that, but somebody said that I was doing it
> wrong; 

That's the opposite of my setup. K9 is set up to sync manually, only 
when I tell it to. I have yet to figure out how to stop Blue Mail from 
automatically doing it on its own. How did you do that?


> even so, I didn't bother to try it again.  I don't use it
> often enough that battery suckage is a problem (just when I'm away
> from home and want to send email and maybe get an answer back).  I
> use Shut App to shut everything down -- this seems to be the only
> app I've found that actually does that. 

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#32724

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-25 13:56 -0700
Message-ID<nn5ud5$u5n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32723
On 07/25/2016 01:01 PM, Nil wrote:
> On 25 Jul 2016, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in
> comp.mobile.android:
>
>> I use Blue Mail because it allows me to download mail at will
>> rather than syncing my accounts, which I NEVER want to do.  I
>> couldn't get K9 to do that, but somebody said that I was doing it
>> wrong;
>
> That's the opposite of my setup. K9 is set up to sync manually, only
> when I tell it to. I have yet to figure out how to stop Blue Mail
> from automatically doing it on its own. How did you do that?

I can't remember, it was over a year ago :-(  I seem to remember that I
had to beat something into submission, but I can't remember what.  Maybe
some google setting that allowed manual syncing but didn't require it.
Or maybe not.  POS.

I hate that google wants us to sync everything.  The last thing I want
to do is clutter up my phone with the ads/spam from the public account
that I want to use if using it might put me on a mailing list.  I also
want to keep ALL my real email on my desktop computer, and google makes
it difficult to do that with a pop account, which is what my serious
accounts have been ever since gmail started up.  I want EVERYTHING
separate, but google doesn't see it that way.

When Skynet finally becomes sentient, google will be part of it.  Maybe
all of it.

>> even so, I didn't bother to try it again.  I don't use it often
>> enough that battery suckage is a problem (just when I'm away from
>> home and want to send email and maybe get an answer back).  I use
>> Shut App to shut everything down -- this seems to be the only app
>> I've found that actually does that.

-- 
Cheers,
Bev
==================================================
Is the Pope Catholic?  Do bears shit in the woods?
Does Rose Kennedy have a black dress?

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#32726

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-25 17:16 -0400
Message-ID<250720161716036285%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32724
In article <nn5ud5$u5n$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> I hate that google wants us to sync everything. The last thing I want
> to do is clutter up my phone with the ads/spam from the public account
> that I want to use if using it might put me on a mailing list.  I also
> want to keep ALL my real email on my desktop computer, and google makes
> it difficult to do that with a pop account, which is what my serious
> accounts have been ever since gmail started up.  I want EVERYTHING
> separate, but google doesn't see it that way.

stop using pop and problem solved.

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#32727

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-25 23:30 +0200
Message-ID<nn60d8$5v7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32726
Dne 25/07/2016 v 23:16 nospam napsal(a):
> In article <nn5ud5$u5n$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I hate that google wants us to sync everything. The last thing I want
>> to do is clutter up my phone with the ads/spam from the public account
>> that I want to use if using it might put me on a mailing list.  I also
>> want to keep ALL my real email on my desktop computer, and google makes
>> it difficult to do that with a pop account, which is what my serious
>> accounts have been ever since gmail started up.  I want EVERYTHING
>> separate, but google doesn't see it that way.
> 
> stop using pop and problem solved.
> 
+1
Use IMAP with access to email account from multiple machines,
with desktop set to kee offline copies,
and the archive eventually in local only folders.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#32732

FromNil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
Date2016-07-25 18:58 -0400
Message-ID<XnsA650C11092305nilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>
In reply to#32724
On 25 Jul 2016, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in
comp.mobile.android: 

> I can't remember, it was over a year ago :-(  I seem to remember
> that I had to beat something into submission, but I can't remember
> what.  Maybe some google setting that allowed manual syncing but
> didn't require it. Or maybe not.  POS.

No, Google has nothing to do with it. I found the setting in Blue Mail:

The account in question | ... | Notifications | scroll to the account | 
Instant Push Settings | Push or Fetch | Manual
 
> I hate that google wants us to sync everything.  The last thing I
> want to do is clutter up my phone with the ads/spam from the
> public account that I want to use if using it might put me on a
> mailing list. 

I guess I don't understand what you're saying here. 

> I also want to keep ALL my real email on my desktop
> computer, and google makes it difficult to do that with a pop
> account, which is what my serious accounts have been ever since
> gmail started up.  I want EVERYTHING separate, but google doesn't
> see it that way. 

Or here. Sounds like POP mail is not really a good fit for you. IMAP is 
more suitable for multiple devices.

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#32734

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-25 20:25 -0700
Message-ID<nn6l7t$tot$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32732
On 07/25/2016 03:58 PM, Nil wrote:
> On 25 Jul 2016, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in
> comp.mobile.android:
>
>> I can't remember, it was over a year ago :-(  I seem to remember
>> that I had to beat something into submission, but I can't remember
>> what.  Maybe some google setting that allowed manual syncing but
>> didn't require it. Or maybe not.  POS.
>
> No, Google has nothing to do with it. I found the setting in Blue Mail:
>
> The account in question | ... | Notifications | scroll to the account |
> Instant Push Settings | Push or Fetch | Manual
>
>> I hate that google wants us to sync everything.  The last thing I
>> want to do is clutter up my phone with the ads/spam from the
>> public account that I want to use if using it might put me on a
>> mailing list.
>
> I guess I don't understand what you're saying here.

If you use the gmail app, you can't choose to download mail only when 
and from which account you choose.  It's download everything as soon as 
you get it or download nothing.  Moreover, you can't use different 
logins for different apps and have more than one open at a time.  If I 
logged in with my phone to ID1, next time I log in with my computer I'll 
be logged into ID1, even if what I want to do is upload a photo to my 
ID2 Picasa account.  I have to log out of ID1 and then into ID2.  If I 
want to look at a youtube video channel I subscribed to with ID3 I have 
to log out of ID2...

What would be nice would be able to have all three open in tabs on my 
desktop at the same time.  I can't have that.

>> I also want to keep ALL my real email on my desktop
>> computer, and google makes it difficult to do that with a pop
>> account, which is what my serious accounts have been ever since
>> gmail started up.  I want EVERYTHING separate, but google doesn't
>> see it that way.
>
> Or here. Sounds like POP mail is not really a good fit for you. IMAP is
> more suitable for multiple devices.

When I opened the accounts I had only one device -- my desktop.  When 
did gmail start?  I've since opened a couple of IMAP accounts, but since 
people know my POP address there's not much point in using them -- I'm 
afraid people will default to an IMAP address for me and I'll never get 
the mail because I never look at that account even if it's right there 
in my Thunderbird list.

I've got a lot of awkward constructs just because I need to keep legacy 
stuff going :-(

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    'Politics' comes from an ancient Greek word meaning
    'many blood-sucking leeches.'       -- Mark Russell

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#32735

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-25 23:42 -0400
Message-ID<250720162342579078%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32734
In article <nn6l7t$tot$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> I can't remember, it was over a year ago :-(  I seem to remember
> >> that I had to beat something into submission, but I can't remember
> >> what.  Maybe some google setting that allowed manual syncing but
> >> didn't require it. Or maybe not.  POS.
> >
> > No, Google has nothing to do with it. I found the setting in Blue Mail:
> >
> > The account in question | ... | Notifications | scroll to the account |
> > Instant Push Settings | Push or Fetch | Manual
> >
> >> I hate that google wants us to sync everything.  The last thing I
> >> want to do is clutter up my phone with the ads/spam from the
> >> public account that I want to use if using it might put me on a
> >> mailing list.
> >
> > I guess I don't understand what you're saying here.
> 
> If you use the gmail app, you can't choose to download mail only when 
> and from which account you choose.  It's download everything as soon as 
> you get it or download nothing.  Moreover, you can't use different 
> logins for different apps and have more than one open at a time.  If I 
> logged in with my phone to ID1, next time I log in with my computer I'll 
> be logged into ID1, even if what I want to do is upload a photo to my 
> ID2 Picasa account.  I have to log out of ID1 and then into ID2.  If I 
> want to look at a youtube video channel I subscribed to with ID3 I have 
> to log out of ID2...
> 
> What would be nice would be able to have all three open in tabs on my 
> desktop at the same time.  I can't have that.

maybe you can't, but other people certainly can. 

> >> I also want to keep ALL my real email on my desktop
> >> computer, and google makes it difficult to do that with a pop
> >> account, which is what my serious accounts have been ever since
> >> gmail started up.  I want EVERYTHING separate, but google doesn't
> >> see it that way.
> >
> > Or here. Sounds like POP mail is not really a good fit for you. IMAP is
> > more suitable for multiple devices.
> 
> When I opened the accounts I had only one device -- my desktop.  When 
> did gmail start? 

april 1, 2004. 

many people thought it was an april fool's joke.

what difference would that make?

> I've since opened a couple of IMAP accounts, but since 
> people know my POP address there's not much point in using them -- I'm 
> afraid people will default to an IMAP address for me and I'll never get 
> the mail because I never look at that account even if it's right there 
> in my Thunderbird list.

you've *got* to be joking.

where in the world did you get the idea that using imap requires a
different email address???? 

configure your email app to use imap. done. 

your email address remains the same and not only that, but nobody but
you even has to know you're using imap.

> 
> I've got a lot of awkward constructs just because I need to keep legacy 
> stuff going :-(

no.

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#32737

FromNil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
Date2016-07-26 01:13 -0400
Message-ID<XnsA651C79DAD29nilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>
In reply to#32734
On 25 Jul 2016, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in
comp.mobile.android: 

> If you use the gmail app, you can't choose to download mail only
> when and from which account you choose.  It's download everything
> as soon as you get it or download nothing.  

I wonder if that's still true. I get the impression that the Gmail app 
has changed considerably in the past short while and it no longer works 
the way you describe. It's on my list of things to try when or if Blue 
Mail doesn't work out.

> When I opened the accounts I had only one device -- my desktop. 
> When did gmail start?  I've since opened a couple of IMAP
> accounts, but since people know my POP address there's not much
> point in using them -- I'm afraid people will default to an IMAP
> address for me and I'll never get the mail because I never look at
> that account even if it's right there in my Thunderbird list.

I think you're confused about that. Email addresses have nothing to do 
with the protocol you use to that mailbox. Gmail, for example, can be 
accessed via the web interface, POP3, or IMAP. All interfaces can be 
used at any time. You can choose to retrieve your mail with any of 
those methods. POP3 is most suitable if you use a single computer to 
retrieve your email and you want to remove your email from the server 
ASAP and store it locally. IMAP is most suitable if you check your 
email mailbox using multiple devices, leaving the mail on the server. 
You can later choose to remove some or all mail from the server and 
archive it locally. 

> I've got a lot of awkward constructs just because I need to keep
> legacy stuff going :-(

Yes, but it's unnecessary.

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#32739

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-26 01:21 -0400
Message-ID<260720160121112727%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32737
In article <XnsA651C79DAD29nilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>, Nil
<rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

> > When I opened the accounts I had only one device -- my desktop. 
> > When did gmail start?  I've since opened a couple of IMAP
> > accounts, but since people know my POP address there's not much
> > point in using them -- I'm afraid people will default to an IMAP
> > address for me and I'll never get the mail because I never look at
> > that account even if it's right there in my Thunderbird list.
> 
> I think you're confused about that. 

very much so. totally clueless comes to mind.

> Email addresses have nothing to do 
> with the protocol you use to that mailbox. Gmail, for example, can be 
> accessed via the web interface, POP3, or IMAP. All interfaces can be 
> used at any time. You can choose to retrieve your mail with any of 
> those methods. 

yep.

> POP3 is most suitable if you use a single computer to 
> retrieve your email and you want to remove your email from the server 
> ASAP and store it locally. IMAP is most suitable if you check your 
> email mailbox using multiple devices, leaving the mail on the server. 
> You can later choose to remove some or all mail from the server and 
> archive it locally. 

pop3 is not suitable at all anymore. it's been replaced.

anything pop does, imap can also do, including downloading mail and
saving it locally *and* it can do a whole lot more.

plus, who has only one computer anymore?

> > I've got a lot of awkward constructs just because I need to keep
> > legacy stuff going :-(
> 
> Yes, but it's unnecessary.

yep.

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#32741

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-26 07:29 +0200
Message-ID<nn6sgm$dv3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32739
Dne 26/07/2016 v 07:21 nospam napsal(a):
> In article <XnsA651C79DAD29nilch1@wheedledeedle.moc>, Nil
> <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>> POP3 is most suitable if you use a single computer to 
>> retrieve your email and you want to remove your email from the server 
>> ASAP and store it locally. IMAP is most suitable if you check your 
>> email mailbox using multiple devices, leaving the mail on the server. 
>> You can later choose to remove some or all mail from the server and 
>> archive it locally. 
> 
> pop3 is not suitable at all anymore. it's been replaced.

It was not replaced, it just should be preferred.

> plus, who has only one computer anymore?

Many people have no computer at all.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#32743

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-26 01:39 -0400
Message-ID<260720160139338864%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32741
In article <nn6sgm$dv3$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik
<poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> POP3 is most suitable if you use a single computer to 
> >> retrieve your email and you want to remove your email from the server 
> >> ASAP and store it locally. IMAP is most suitable if you check your 
> >> email mailbox using multiple devices, leaving the mail on the server. 
> >> You can later choose to remove some or all mail from the server and 
> >> archive it locally. 
> > 
> > pop3 is not suitable at all anymore. it's been replaced.
> 
> It was not replaced, it just should be preferred.

imap has replaced pop.

there is no longer any reason to use pop. it's obsolete, and some email
providers don't even offer pop anymore.

> > plus, who has only one computer anymore?
> 
> Many people have no computer at all.

then they won't be getting very much email, will they?

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#32749

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-26 08:44 +0200
Message-ID<nn70sn$p33$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32743
Dne 26/07/2016 v 07:39 nospam napsal(a):
> In article <nn6sgm$dv3$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik
> <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote:
> 

>>
>> It was not replaced, it just should be preferred.
> 
> imap has replaced pop.
> 
> there is no longer any reason to use pop. it's obsolete, and some email
> providers don't even offer pop anymore.

So not yet replaced.

If one is familiar and satisfied with POP3, not with IMAP4,
or an older client has IMAP4 troubles,
and provider support it, there is no reason to change.
Especially for older people challenged by any change.

Note that I do NOT use POP3,
but I would not be so extremistic in this matter.

> 
>>> plus, who has only one computer anymore?
>>
>> Many people have no computer at all.
> 
> then they won't be getting very much email, will they?
> 
You need not to have a computer to have very many emails.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
Knowledge makes great men humble, but small m en arrogant.

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#32752

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-26 07:34 +0000
Message-ID<nn73pb$1rb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32749
Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dne 26/07/2016 v 07:39 nospam napsal(a):
>> In article <nn6sgm$dv3$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik
>> <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
> 
>>> 
>>> It was not replaced, it just should be preferred.
>> 
>> imap has replaced pop.
>> 
>> there is no longer any reason to use pop. it's obsolete, and some email
>> providers don't even offer pop anymore.
> 
> So not yet replaced.
> 
> If one is familiar and satisfied with POP3, not with IMAP4,
> or an older client has IMAP4 troubles,

Not just older clients. I have to use pop for one of my accounts on iOS as
IMAP isn't working for that provider. Tried to get to the bottom of, but
have so far failed.

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#32777

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-26 09:50 -0400
Message-ID<260720160950296177%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32749
In article <nn70sn$p33$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik
<poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>
> >> It was not replaced, it just should be preferred.
> > 
> > imap has replaced pop.
> > 
> > there is no longer any reason to use pop. it's obsolete, and some email
> > providers don't even offer pop anymore.
> 
> So not yet replaced.

it has been replaced.
 
> If one is familiar and satisfied with POP3, not with IMAP4,
> or an older client has IMAP4 troubles,
> and provider support it, there is no reason to change.
> Especially for older people challenged by any change.

just because some people have't switched yet doesn't mean it hasn't
been replaced. it has.

> Note that I do NOT use POP3,
> but I would not be so extremistic in this matter.
> 
> > 
> >>> plus, who has only one computer anymore?
> >>
> >> Many people have no computer at all.
> > 
> > then they won't be getting very much email, will they?
> > 
> You need not to have a computer to have very many emails.

you need to have a computer to get *any* email.

if someone has no computer, then they can't get any email at all. zero.

you're arguing just to argue.

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#32793

Fromtlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
Date2016-07-26 13:45 -0400
Message-ID<10jkzpl1pwmyi.1vpnvp4zohnfa.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#32777
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 09:50:29 -0400, nospam wrote:

> you need to have a computer to get *any* email.

LOL ... fsvo "computer". E.g.: an ASCII terminal, a modem, and a keyboard
suffice for simple text-based email. Or again a cell phone. Call those
computers? -- OK, be my guest. I'll hold off, though :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#32797

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-26 13:57 -0400
Message-ID<260720161357536771%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32793
In article <10jkzpl1pwmyi.1vpnvp4zohnfa.dlg@40tude.net>, tlvp
<mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:

> 
> > you need to have a computer to get *any* email.
> 
> LOL ... fsvo "computer". E.g.: an ASCII terminal, a modem, and a keyboard
> suffice for simple text-based email.

not that anyone uses those anymore, but guess what those connect to.

> Or again a cell phone. Call those
> computers?

a cellphone absolutely is a computer.

> -- OK, be my guest. I'll hold off, though :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp

except you didn't.

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#32799

FromKen Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
Date2016-07-26 11:14 -0700
Message-ID<dt9fpbp0p3ps3b0jtv6604h678kiojqdqv@4ax.com>
In reply to#32797
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 13:57:53 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <10jkzpl1pwmyi.1vpnvp4zohnfa.dlg@40tude.net>, tlvp
><mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:
>
>> Or again a cell phone. Call those
>> computers?
>
>a cellphone absolutely is a computer.



Smart cell phones, yes. Unquestionably.

However the older cell phones, like the flip-top phone I used until a
few months ago are not really computers, in my opinion.

I suppose one could argue that even those older cell phones were
computers, but at the most, they were very primitive computers
compared to what's available today.

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#32800

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-07-26 14:30 -0400
Message-ID<260720161430485312%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32799
In article <dt9fpbp0p3ps3b0jtv6604h678kiojqdqv@4ax.com>, Ken Blake
<Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

> >> Or again a cell phone. Call those
> >> computers?
> >
> >a cellphone absolutely is a computer.
> 
> Smart cell phones, yes. Unquestionably.

smartphones is the topic in an android newsgroup.

> However the older cell phones, like the flip-top phone I used until a
> few months ago are not really computers, in my opinion.

there's a microprocessor, storage and firmware. that's a computer.

plus, many flip phones could download apps and/or had a very limited
browser and email app, making it closer to what people think of when
they hear computer.

> I suppose one could argue that even those older cell phones were
> computers, but at the most, they were very primitive computers
> compared to what's available today.

all older computers were very primitive compared to what's available
today.

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