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Re: [OT] "trolling"

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: [OT] "trolling"
Date 2026-09-09 12:49 +0200
Organization Tebibyte_Retro_Gaming
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On 2026-09-09 07:51, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 6 Sep 2026 13:59:34 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-09-06 11:17, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>> On 2026-09-04, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2026-09-03 12:55, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>>> On 2026-09-02, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>>> They are not facts, they are opinions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I posted cites & excerpts to Android documentation. Those are not opinions.
>>>>>> You may hate the result of those documents, but they're still facts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't help but feel slightly appalled that somebody who has before
>>>>> stressed the importance of logic can't understand that something being
>>>>> written doesn't make it a fact, let alone a universally valid one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Heck, I've had manufacturer service manuals include blatantly incorrect
>>>>> information.
>>>>>
>>>>> [ /me Stares at Helwett "your Pavilion laptop has two SODIMM slots" Packard. ]
>>>>
>>>> As you are new to the group, I should add some info.
>>>
>>> Thanks!,
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I refuse to answer Arlen requests for "facts" because the single
>>>> matter that I posted about that started this browhaha was discussed
>>>> here in depth with several participants and we reached some
>>>> conclusions (which Arlen refuses to accept). I refuse to go over it
>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>> Namely, that this statement of Arlen, which he repeats often:
>>>>
>>>> A> I will make a moral statement though, which people can choose to
>>>> A> disregard, but it's based on facts, which is anyone who has
>>>> A> anything in their contacts that they don't own, is being
>>>> A> exceptionally rude to friends & family.
>>>>
>>>> is false and not accepted. He is basically saying that everybody in
>>>> the world is being rude for merely using the Google Contacts app (ie,
>>>> that Google has access to our contact database and uses that data). It
>>>> is specially not true for people living in the EU with our data
>>>> protection laws.
>>>>
>>>> And I refuse to argue why again.
>>
>> Just to clarify, in case it is not clear. I use the Google Contacts
>> application, which is installed by default. I add all my friends,
> 
> If one did not use the app , it would be hard to function , would it
> not?  What would have to type in every number , one would have to
> memorize everybody's phone number , one would have to or one would have
> to copy and paste it from some list he kept on his own .

There may be contacts apps that do not use the cloud. They probably have 
limitations in the features, too.

> 
> Yesterday for the first time when I tried to save something to contacts
> my new android phone gave me a choice of contacts apps. They were both
> called Contacts and their icons looked almost the same , a silhouette
> from the front in blue and the only difference was that one was a
> lighter shade of blue  ,. Have you encountered this? I didn't want my
> contacts to be spread out over two different apps. That would really be
> confusing.

Two?

> 
>> family, people I barely know, professionals, etc, to it. He assumes that
>> Google treats this as public information and that they can do anything
>> they wish with it. Like spamming my friends. Well, that simply doesn't
>> happen. In the EU where I live that is protected information and Google
>> would get a monster fine. Thus, I'm not being rude by storing contact
>> information in the contact app.
> 
> Even in the USA, I haven't noticed any of this .
>>
>> And other applications can not just copy the information and upload to
>> their own servers and make free use of it.
>>
>> If you already understood, forgive my blurb :-)
>>
>>>
>>> As I've commented elsewhere in the thread: I think I understand the
>>> reasoning behind this and I think I can agree to *some extent*, in the
>>> same way that several years ago people joining e.g. LinkedIn would give
>>> them mail addresses to spam to no end.
>>>
>>> But from that to "being exceptionally rude" goes a distance I'm not
>>> crossing, at least not for the time being...
>>>
>>
>> ...


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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  Re: How does whatsapp work? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-31 09:20 -0600
    Re: How does whatsapp work? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-01 00:51 -0400
  Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-31 20:37 +0200
    Re: How does whatsapp work? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-01 01:01 -0400
      Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 09:44 +0200
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        Re: Signal (was: Re: How does whatsapp work?) "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-01 16:30 +0200
          Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 19:15 +0200
            Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:32 +0200
              Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 21:25 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 21:26 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 21:53 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:20 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:10 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:37 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:23 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:36 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:31 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:32 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:40 +0530
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:24 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 11:39 +0845
                [OT/Meta] Trolling (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 11:37 +0100
                Re: [OT/Meta] Trolling Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 03:43 +0930
                Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 11:28 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 02:31 +0930
                [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:18 +0100
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:10 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:25 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:28 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:33 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:41 +0530
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:25 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 11:35 +0845
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-09 20:07 +0000
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-10 09:27 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:24 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-02 18:56 +0000
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:18 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:38 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:27 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:33 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 05:58 +0845
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:25 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 11:36 +0845
            Re: Signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-01 18:59 +0100
              Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 21:18 +0200
            Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:11 +0100
              Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:18 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:28 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:25 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:38 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:32 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:00 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:39 +0530
        Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 19:05 +0200
          Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:13 +0200
            Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 20:52 +0200
              Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 21:27 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 21:50 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:20 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:11 +0200
                Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 18:50 +0100
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:30 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:34 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:51 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:34 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:00 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 06:00 +0845
                Re: Signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 09:42 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 03:13 +0930
                [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-04 13:12 +0100
                Re: [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-08 21:04 +0300
                Re: [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-09-08 19:32 +0000
                Re: [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-09 08:21 +0300
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:31 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:51 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:27 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:34 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:37 +0530
                Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 11:55 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 02:44 +0930
                [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-04 12:39 +0100
                Re: Signal micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-09 08:44 +0300
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-04 09:56 +0200
                [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-06 10:17 +0100
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-06 13:59 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-06 13:34 +0100
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-06 20:07 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-09 08:51 +0300
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-09 12:49 +0200
                Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-09 09:55 -0700
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                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-10 09:30 -0700
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                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-10 21:33 -0700
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-11 06:54 +0000
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-11 01:24 -0600
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-11 11:09 -0700
                Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-11 18:23 +0000
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-11 12:56 -0600
                Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-11 19:37 +0000
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-11 12:46 -0600
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-11 12:48 -0700
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-11 21:59 -0230
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-11 19:12 -0700
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-12 01:31 -0100
                Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-12 13:00 +0000
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 08:32 -0700
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-12 17:31 +0000
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 13:05 -0700
                Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-12 18:00 +0000
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 13:05 -0700
                Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-17 13:33 +0300
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-17 12:30 +0000
                Re: Contacts Siard <saylor259@mailbox.org> - 2026-09-17 15:12 +0200
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-17 16:12 +0000
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-17 18:48 +0200
                Re: Contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-09-18 10:04 +0200
                Re: Contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-09-18 10:00 +0200
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-18 10:58 -0700
                Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-17 13:26 +0300
                Re: Contacts Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-11 00:30 +0100
                Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-12 21:58 +0300
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 13:16 -0700
                Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-13 05:06 +0300
                Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-13 05:15 +0300
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 20:40 -0700
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-13 11:22 +0545
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-13 06:05 -0700
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-13 06:54 -1000
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-13 14:17 -0700
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-15 00:50 +0000
                Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-13 19:02 +0000
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-13 14:17 -0700
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-14 21:56 -0300
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-20 00:15 -0700
                Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-23 21:02 +0300
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                Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:12 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:26 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:40 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:35 +0530
                Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 00:03 +0100
                Re: Signal Nuno Silva <user17785@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-03 01:00 +0000
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 02:47 +0930
                [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 11:49 +0100
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 03:38 +0930
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-04 09:26 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:29 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:33 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:51 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:35 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:00 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:36 +0530
              Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:24 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:30 +0200
                Re: Signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 09:29 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 03:04 +0930
                Re: Signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 18:46 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 04:22 +0930
          Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 19:20 +0200
      Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 17:03 +0200
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