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Re: [OT] "trolling"

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: [OT] "trolling"
Date 2026-09-02 20:24 +0200
Organization Tebibyte_Retro_Gaming
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On 2026-09-02 12:18, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2026-09-01, Maria Sophia wrote:
> 
>> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> Given most people are incredibly rude when it comes to contacts privacy,
>>>> I looked up more about how Signal can*save* contacts, which is handy.
>>>
>>> No, we are not. We debunked your idea many times.
>>
>> Carlos,
>>
>> I do not know how to respond to you when you act like a mindless troll who
>> repeatedly claims he's "debunked" the facts, when you simply have not.
>>
>> I've said this statement below many times on iOS newsgroups about other,
>> similar iOS trolls, who simply can't stand (nor ever understand) the facts.
>>
>>   "Just you claiming every fact you're blissfully ignorant of is wrong
>>    does not mean you've debunked facts merely by repeating your religious
>>    belief system that all facts you're unaware of or you refuse to
>>    understand, are wrong".
>>
>> The fact remains that both Andy and I provided facts.
>> I even provided settled court cases, which are additional facts.
>>
>> You provided..... nothing.
>>
>> Please, if you're going to troll us by disputing known facts, at least
>> provide a valid counter factual that backs up your religious position.
>>
>> Otherwise, you're just trolling...
> 
> At this point I feel that
> 
> 1) More detail or context would be necessary to explain why Carlos has
>     responded like that (seemed to be about past conversations), and
> 
> 2) More detail would also be needed to understand why are you already
>     designating this "trolling".
> 
> Please see this less of a request for comment and more as an assessment
> of somebody who is puzzled by how the conversation came to this so
> quickly. It *is* true I've not been subscribing to this group for long,
> though... ideally I'd just go with the
> 
>      "read [...] for one to two months before you post anything"
> 
> prescribed in RFC 1855, extended to a longer period, but this seems to
> involve two people who are otherwise regular posters in productive
> threads here and one of them in other groups I've been in for longer.
> 

Arlen (aka Maria (he is a name shifter)) has a trait of calling troll or 
fool anybody that contradicts him and doesn't accept his "facts" as facts.

He says «Given most people are incredibly rude when it comes to contacts 
privacy» and I do not accept that phrase to go by unchallenged, because 
he is calling me and millions of Android users "rude".

He thinks that merely by using the default Android Contact app, we are 
giving Google the names and phones of everybody, and thus, we are 
responsible of breaking those other people privacy.

We have many times told Arlen that is false, specially for those of us 
living in Europe, with our data protection laws.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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How does whatsapp work? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-08-31 09:01 -0400
  Re: How does whatsapp work? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-08-31 09:20 -0600
    Re: How does whatsapp work? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-01 00:51 -0400
  Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-31 20:37 +0200
    Re: How does whatsapp work? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-01 01:01 -0400
      Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 09:44 +0200
    Re: How does whatsapp work? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-01 12:47 +0200
      Signal (was: Re: How does whatsapp work?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-01 12:21 +0100
        Re: Signal (was: Re: How does whatsapp work?) "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-01 16:30 +0200
          Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 19:15 +0200
            Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:32 +0200
              Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 21:25 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 21:26 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 21:53 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:20 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:10 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:37 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:23 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:36 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:31 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:32 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:40 +0530
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:24 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 11:39 +0845
                [OT/Meta] Trolling (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 11:37 +0100
                Re: [OT/Meta] Trolling Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 03:43 +0930
                Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 11:28 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 02:31 +0930
                [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:18 +0100
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:10 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:25 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:28 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:33 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:41 +0530
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:25 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 11:35 +0845
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-09-09 20:07 +0000
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-10 09:27 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:24 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-02 18:56 +0000
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:18 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:38 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:27 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:33 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 05:58 +0845
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:25 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 11:36 +0845
            Re: Signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-01 18:59 +0100
              Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 21:18 +0200
            Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:11 +0100
              Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:18 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:28 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:25 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:38 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:32 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:00 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:39 +0530
        Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 19:05 +0200
          Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 19:13 +0200
            Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 20:52 +0200
              Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 21:27 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 21:50 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:20 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:11 +0200
                Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 18:50 +0100
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:30 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:34 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:51 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:34 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:00 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 06:00 +0845
                Re: Signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 09:42 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 03:13 +0930
                [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-04 13:12 +0100
                Re: [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-08 21:04 +0300
                Re: [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-09-08 19:32 +0000
                Re: [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-09 08:21 +0300
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:31 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:51 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:27 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:34 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:37 +0530
                Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 11:55 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 02:44 +0930
                [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-04 12:39 +0100
                Re: Signal micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-09 08:44 +0300
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-04 09:56 +0200
                [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-06 10:17 +0100
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-06 13:59 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-06 13:34 +0100
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-06 20:07 +0200
                Re: [OT] "trolling" micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-09 08:51 +0300
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-09 12:49 +0200
                Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-09 09:55 -0700
                Re: Contacts Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-10 10:16 +0100
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-10 09:30 -0700
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-10 17:49 +0000
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-10 21:33 -0700
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-11 06:54 +0000
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-11 01:24 -0600
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-11 11:09 -0700
                Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-11 18:23 +0000
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-11 12:56 -0600
                Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-11 19:37 +0000
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-11 12:46 -0600
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-11 12:48 -0700
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-11 21:59 -0230
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-11 19:12 -0700
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-12 01:31 -0100
                Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-12 13:00 +0000
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 08:32 -0700
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-12 17:31 +0000
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 13:05 -0700
                Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-12 18:00 +0000
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 13:05 -0700
                Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-17 13:33 +0300
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-17 12:30 +0000
                Re: Contacts Siard <saylor259@mailbox.org> - 2026-09-17 15:12 +0200
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-17 16:12 +0000
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-17 18:48 +0200
                Re: Contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-09-18 10:04 +0200
                Re: Contacts Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2026-09-18 10:00 +0200
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-18 10:58 -0700
                Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-17 13:26 +0300
                Re: Contacts Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-11 00:30 +0100
                Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-12 21:58 +0300
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 13:16 -0700
                Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-13 05:06 +0300
                Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-13 05:15 +0300
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-12 20:40 -0700
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-13 11:22 +0545
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-13 06:05 -0700
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-13 06:54 -1000
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-13 14:17 -0700
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-15 00:50 +0000
                Re: Contacts Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-13 19:02 +0000
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-13 14:17 -0700
                Re: Contacts Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-14 21:56 -0300
                Re: Contacts AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2026-09-20 00:15 -0700
                Re: Contacts micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-23 21:02 +0300
                Application identification on Motorola Android (was: Re: Contacts) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-13 08:11 +0100
                Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:12 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:26 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 22:40 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:35 +0530
                Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 00:03 +0100
                Re: Signal Nuno Silva <user17785@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-09-03 01:00 +0000
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 02:47 +0930
                [OT] "trolling" (was: Re: Signal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 11:49 +0100
                Re: [OT] "trolling" Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 03:38 +0930
                Re: [OT] "trolling" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-04 09:26 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:29 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 21:33 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:51 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 22:35 +0200
                Re: Signal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 23:00 +0200
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-03 02:36 +0530
              Re: Signal Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-02 11:24 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-02 17:30 +0200
                Re: Signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 09:29 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 03:04 +0930
                Re: Signal Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 18:46 +0100
                Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-04 04:22 +0930
          Re: Signal Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-09-01 19:20 +0200
      Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-01 17:03 +0200
        Re: How does whatsapp work? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-02 20:56 +0200
          Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-02 21:04 +0200
            Re: How does whatsapp work? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-04 21:15 +0200
              Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-05 14:14 +0200
                Re: How does whatsapp work? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-05 18:03 +0200
    Re: How does whatsapp work? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-01 14:37 +0000
      Re: How does whatsapp work? micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2026-09-09 09:07 +0300
        Re: How does whatsapp work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-09 12:53 +0200

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